Master Obit 828 Posted November 6 21 minutes ago, Paul Bearer said: Seriously mate, don’t force me to put you on a mod preview. Your posts WON’T get approved. Calm the fuck down. Are you sure you couldn't be tempted to put him and mango on it? I'm sure we could have a whip round if you're open to bribes. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,745 Posted November 6 Just dared to look at the news. Guess it was a free and fair election then. Amazing given all the illegals voting and the ballot stuffing in the swing states... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 167 Posted November 6 16 minutes ago, Master Obit said: Are you sure you couldn't be tempted to put him and mango on it? I'm sure we could have a whip round if you're open to bribes. We were bang on the money about this election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: It will 99% be a white man who is the dem nominee in 2028. Probably Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshar. It be the rightest dem candidate for many decades. Ha! Next election… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 878 Posted November 6 Cheer up Old Crem, at least there wont be a third world war. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prussianblue 1,024 Posted November 6 Wisconsin called for Trump, for what it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sodoffbaldrick 36 Posted November 6 5 hours ago, The Old Crem said: It will 99% be a white man who is the dem nominee in 2028. Probably Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshar. It be the rightest dem candidate for many decades. you're assuming that they will still be holding elections and permitted to have opposition parties in 2028. Based on Trump's speeches and his rhetoric to the voters that may not be the case. After all he was telling his voters that after this election they won't have to vote again and was talking about going after and locking up all of his opponents. Given his past history of following through this might not happen but the sycophants he's surrounded himself with this time around might be competent enough to get it done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sodoffbaldrick 36 Posted November 6 4 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: Just dared to look at the news. Guess it was a free and fair election then. Amazing given all the illegals voting and the ballot stuffing in the swing states... Well i don't think trump or anyone else ever said which party was stuffing the ballot boxes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet 251 Posted November 6 Republicans should really invest a lot of money into Illinois, New York and New Jersey, considering how close the election was there. It would open up many more pathways to victory than they had before. Another interesting aspect of this election is that in the age of social media outrage, the incumbency advantage may have turned into an incumbency disadvantage. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a huge blue wave in four years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,630 Posted November 6 13 minutes ago, Prophet said: Republicans should really invest a lot of money into Illinois, New York and New Jersey, considering how close the election was there. It would open up many more pathways to victory than they had before. Another interesting aspect of this election is that in the age of social media outrage, the incumbency advantage may have turned into an incumbency disadvantage. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a huge blue wave in four years. One thing that might help a blue wave in future is complete confusion over what might constitue Republicanism in a post-Trump Republican Party. Arguably he's shredded their beliefs beyond immediate repair. If his health fails it may be that his vision is his own family taking over and continuing with more of the same. Not something that played out for Mao, Stalin, or the most of those guys. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,578 Posted November 6 31 minutes ago, Prophet said: Republicans should really invest a lot of money into Illinois, New York and New Jersey, considering how close the election was there. It would open up many more pathways to victory than they had before. Another interesting aspect of this election is that in the age of social media outrage, the incumbency advantage may have turned into an incumbency disadvantage. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a huge blue wave in four years. It be a big test of if they can keep that up without Trump or someone as unique as him. I am not sure JD Vance has the same level of appeal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadboy999 176 Posted November 6 I guess we don't have to listen to word salads for four years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joltin Joe 149 Posted November 6 3 hours ago, Deadboy999 said: I guess we don't have to listen to word salads for four years. You will, just from a different guy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted November 6 A bad business. But this too will pass 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 311 Posted November 6 She gave a nice speech.. Tells me she can give good speeches.. She maybe was trying too hard and getting herself in trouble and the word salads came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,630 Posted November 6 27 minutes ago, livingbygrace said: She gave a nice speech.. Tells me she can give good speeches.. She maybe was trying too hard and getting herself in trouble and the word salads came out. A very positive speech. Just a guess, it was over half of what she'd have said had she won. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,745 Posted November 6 43 minutes ago, DevonDeathTrip said: A bad business. But this too will pass It will. The worry is the damage that will be done in between. Ukraine, the Middle East, the environment, and that's before we consider the fact that the band of nutjobs he's assembled know what they're doing this time and how to game the system. They also have a compliant House and Senate and a conservative Supreme Court so they can run the table. And doubtless they'll somehow explain in 4 years time how the radical left have somehow stopped them doing everything they wanted and they must be re-elected for the sake of the nation, which will surely crumble otherwise. What an ungodly mess, and somehow this is still in some ways a better outcome than the armed gangs marauding the streets and Trump screaming foul on Fox News because Kamala won. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 443 Posted November 6 What I find depressing is that realpolitik demands that for the next four years, every other US-allied world leader has no other option but to slavishly appease this unstable childish lunatic and his every wish or he can use America's whole economic clout to tank their economies with a single finger. Like an outsourced Liz Truss but even worse, because at least we COULD get rid of her before she did even more damage to our economy. And the checks and balances which restrained him to a degree in his first term no longer apply now, since his party controls every branch of the most powerful government on Earth. I just wish Americans voted while paying more attention to the global consequences of their choice, because it's not only them who have to put up with him. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,578 Posted November 6 For someone with poor UK approval ratings the British right wing press might be out of touch with public opinion being so massively pro trump now a days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prussianblue 1,024 Posted November 7 10 hours ago, The Old Crem said: For someone with poor UK approval ratings the British right wing press might be out of touch with public opinion being so massively pro trump now a days. Get out more. Your insane reactionary family does not reflect UK public opinion. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 167 Posted November 7 On 04/11/2024 at 09:40, gcreptile said: Conspiracy theory time... Iowa wasn't exactly on the minds of pollsters this year, and so not many polls were actually conducted. But curiously, within 24 hrs after the Selzer poll, three republican-affiliated polls appeared, showing Trump +7, Trump +8, Trump +9: https://x.com/USA_Polling/status/1853284236112871763 Trump won the state in 2020 by +8, so it looks like these polls show that not much has changed here. Especially the Emerson poll is curious. It was sponsored by "RealClearDefense" and came out basically simultaneous to the Selzer poll. RealClearDefense is an off-shoot of the RealClearPolitics site. It's unclear why a news aggregator blog would want to sponsor a poll. It is becoming increasingly more likely to me that a lot of these polls are fake. It happened in 2022, too, lots of polls predicting a "red wave" that never came. This year, it's even worse - as "normal" pollsters go out of business and journalism has to cut costs. Simon Rosenberg keeps an eye on these "red wave" pollsters on X: https://x.com/SimonWDC/status/1853214212048228543 He mentions some of these outfits that are decidely partisan like InsiderAdvantage. He counts over 70 polls in the last week that are probably narrative-setting polls. Over 50% of all polls! Most notorious of these "we're independent, but actually not" pollsters is, of course, Rasmussen Reports. Mark Mitchell, the Rasmussen Reports CEO has tweeted that unfortunately, Selzer came out too late for them to "prove them wrong": https://x.com/Mark_R_Mitchell/status/1852857348580356348 Because for Republicans, the polls are a partisan issue, another tool in their arsenal to influence elections. It's an "us vs. them" thing. He thinks that the Selzer poll was made on purpose to suppress republican turnout, ignoring that this poll has been around for decades. It's also projection. The republican polling forms try to establish the idea that Trump is ahead by a lot, and if he loses, it can only be because of fraud (the Trump campaign has already started to claim fraud before the votes are actually counted). Especially, the Iowa situation tells me that republican pollsters not only put their thumb on the scale, they probably fake results outright. As a consequence, I believe that the following polling outfits are probably useless: - InsiderAdvantage - Trafalgar - Emerson College - TIPP - Morning Consult - Rasmussen Reports - Atlas Intel - every pollster associated with Tony Fabrizio - American Greatness Edit: - Mitchell Research This didn't just age like milk, it disintegrated like milk forgotten in a sun-scorched wasteland, left to curdle under relentless heat, festering and bubbling into a monstrous sludge so toxic that even microbes would recoil in terror. Imagine a rancid, biohazardous ooze that not even a hazmat team would approach without questioning their life choices, a putrid concoction so far gone that it seems less like a former dairy product and more like an ancient curse in liquid form. This isn't just decay, it's a whole new level of toxic evolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 443 Posted November 7 9 minutes ago, Mango said: Imagine a rancid, biohazardous ooze that not even a hazmat team would approach without questioning their life choices, a putrid concoction so far gone that it seems less like a former dairy product and more like an ancient curse in liquid form. This isn't just decay, it's a whole new level of toxic evolution. Don't be harsh on yourself, pal. We don't think ALL of your contributions are that bad. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,421 Posted November 7 10 hours ago, prussianblue said: Get out more. Your insane reactionary family does not reflect UK public opinion. To be fair (and I only saw this post because you quoted it, for reference - sorry, but as a chronic depression sufferer, even I have my limits on doomscrolling), it does look like he thought the PRESS were out of touch with their pro-Trump stance, rather than the other way round. The lack of commas does make it a difficult read though. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,953 Posted November 7 16 minutes ago, Mango said: This didn't just age like milk, it disintegrated like milk forgotten in a sun-scorched wasteland, left to curdle under relentless heat, festering and bubbling into a monstrous sludge so toxic that even microbes would recoil in terror. Imagine a rancid, biohazardous ooze that not even a hazmat team would approach without questioning their life choices, a putrid concoction so far gone that it seems less like a former dairy product and more like an ancient curse in liquid form. This isn't just decay, it's a whole new level of toxic evolution. We'll always have Jimmy Carter making 100. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
