Hanzem 708 Posted January 26, 2022 New top 10 after the recent deaths (Valentine Ligny, Yoshi Baba, Cecile Klein, Thelma Sutcliffe, Antonia Da Santa Cruz). 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,869 Posted January 27, 2022 Vicente Ramon Perez Uzcategui, unvalidated Venezuelan claimant to the title of the World's Oldest Man allegedly dead at 114 (or something less) according to the Gerontology Wiki. Can't find any other sources yet. Edit: R. Young's comments pretty much confirm this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaDeathGuy 202 Posted January 28, 2022 Now Yoshi Otsunari is dead at 115. 1906 is down to one person, Tekla Juniewicz. 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCemetaryMan 53 Posted January 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, DaDeathGuy said: Now Yoshi Otsunari is dead at 115. 1906 is down to one person, Tekla Juniewicz. Maybe a clean sweep soon, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hanzem 708 Posted January 28, 2022 RIP Yoshi Otsunari 6th 114+ death of January 2022 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hanzem 708 Posted January 28, 2022 New top 10 Now every validated living 114+ person is in the top 10 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,071 Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Hanzem said: New top 10 Now every validated living 114+ person is in the top 10 One more and I got my DL Cup entry! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,536 Posted January 28, 2022 11 hours ago, DaDeathGuy said: Now Yoshi Otsunari is dead at 115. 1906 is down to one person, Tekla Juniewicz. Aww. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,081 Posted January 28, 2022 What are the odds of Kanata’s reaching 120 yo ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,845 Posted January 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: What are the odds of Kanata’s reaching 120 yo ? Zero. I just want to see her beat Sarah K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,457 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Lafaucheuse said: What are the odds of Kanata’s reaching 120 yo ? About 1 in 102 billion, yo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,869 Posted January 28, 2022 Rest in Peace Yoshi Otsunari (formerly known as Anonymous of Fukuoka) out of the gallery of the top 10 oldest people I posted here in April 2021 only three are still alive, Tanaka, Randon and Juniewicz, who held spot 6 at the time. Out of the U.S. newcomers, Bessie Hendricks is "not very ill", doesn't take a lot of meds and her doctor calls her a "miracle lady", Mila Manigold is wheelchairbound and Irene Dunham, with probably the most interesting history out of the three, narrowly avoided the 1927 Bath school bombing due to being ill with a sore throat and survived colon cancer at an old age. Wang Zhangwen, Francisca Joana da Conceicao, Sofia Rojas and Xu Senzhen could be older than the three, all claim to have been born in 1907. Who knows, but they all look their age 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hanzem 708 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Lafaucheuse said: What are the odds of Kanata’s reaching 120 yo ? I am surprised that she has reached 119 and that all these much "younger" women are dying while she is still standing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hanzem 708 Posted January 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, arghton said: Irene Dunham, with probably the most interesting history out of the three, narrowly avoided the 1927 Bath school bombing due to being ill with a sore throat and survived colon cancer at an old age. She also looks quite healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hanzem 708 Posted January 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, arghton said: Wang Zhangwen, Francisca Joana da Conceicao, Sofia Rojas and Xu Senzhen could be older than the three, all claim to have been born in 1907. Who knows, but they all look their age Sofia Rojas will likely be validated. For the other three I doubt they could get validated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,081 Posted January 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, TQR said: About 1 in 102 billion, yo. Where this ratio comes from ? at least she has reach 26 out of the 365 days in her way to 120. 339 days left. honestly I’m so fascinating about these wop records ! This may be quite controversial but I don’t want her to reach 120 because I want Randon to be wop at some point, she has been overshadowed by Tanaka despite being almost 118 and I think she deserves the title for a moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,232 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Lafaucheuse said: What are the odds of Kanata’s reaching 120 yo ? For a serious answer, try asking one of the big UK bookmakers, eg William Hill or Ladbrokes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,457 Posted January 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: Where this ratio comes from ? at least she has reach 26 out of the 365 days in her way to 120. 339 days left. honestly I’m so fascinating about these wop records ! This may be quite controversial but I don’t want her to reach 120 because I want Randon to be wop at some point, she has been overshadowed by Tanaka despite being almost 118 and I think she deserves the title for a moment Oh it’s very mathematical, my workings: - I read somewhere than an estimated 112bn people have ever existed. - Of those, 1 person has reached 120. - Minus a bit because she was born a long while ago. It sounds like horse shit but I’m sure it’s close enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,232 Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, TQR said: Oh it’s very mathematical, my workings: - I read somewhere than an estimated 112bn people have ever existed. - Of those, 1 person has reached 120. - Minus a bit because she was born a long while ago. It sounds like horse shit but I’m sure it’s close enough. I doubt William Hill will offer those odds though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,647 Posted January 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, TQR said: Oh it’s very mathematical, my workings: - I read somewhere than an estimated 112bn people have ever existed. - Of those, 1 person has reached 120. - Minus a bit because she was born a long while ago. It sounds like horse shit but I’m sure it’s close enough. However you could look at it this way Of all the previous people who reached the age of 119 then 50% of them reached 120 But these are all outliers in any statistical analysis of ageing and tossing a coin is probably as good as it gets 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,074 Posted January 28, 2022 Age 118 is the safest age of all, because 100% of people who reached that age also reached 119. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,081 Posted January 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Age 118 is the safest age of all, because 100% of people who reached that age also reached 119. You just jinxed all the chances of Randon to reach 119 now, congrats !! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,457 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Bibliogryphon said: However you could look at it this way Of all the previous people who reached the age of 119 then 50% of them reached 120 But these are all outliers in any statistical analysis of ageing and tossing a coin is probably as good as it gets Cool, so somewhere between Evens and 102,000,000,000/1? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MortalCaso 1,641 Posted January 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: However you could look at it this way Of all the previous people who reached the age of 119 then 50% of them reached 120 But these are all outliers in any statistical analysis of ageing and tossing a coin is probably as good as it gets Keep in mind this is just in recorded history. It is unlikely the lifespan was this long at any other point in our species existence, but not impossible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,869 Posted January 28, 2022 Robert Young said today that "the 1907 cohort still appears to be 'above statistical expectation' and saturated with several frail persons", two of him he describes "very frail", says that the January collapse is probably not over. 1903, 1904 & 1906 are down to one survivor, 1907 has around 12: 1- Maria Branyas Morera, 2- Casilda Benegas, 3- Wang Zhanwen, 4- Fusa Tatsumi, 5- Anonymous of Hyogo, 6- Francisca Joana da Conceicao, 7- Sofia Rojas, 8- Xu Senzhen, 9- Bessie Hendricks, 10- Mila Mangold, 11- Irene Dunham, 12- Maria Ana da Silva. The other one is probably Fusa Tatsumi, bedbound and probably unresponsive. The other one? Excluding the unvalidated ones and Anonymous of Hyogo (Young mentioned that not that "very frail" one) I wonder which one it is. Benegas? Mangold? Young also mentions something about the recently deceased ones: Yoshi Baba and Valentine Ligny were "unexpected" deaths. If a death can be "unexpected" at 114/115. Thelma Sutcliffe had been in declining health but her family kept it a secret. Cecile Klein was "very frail", Antonia da Santa Cruz had been in declining health for a month. Yoshi Otsunari had been very frail for ages. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
