Skellington 6 Posted May 9, 2022 "episodic mobility issues" - is that the same as "evacuating her bowels sporadically"? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Cerberus said: Not surprising at all, but if the speech is written by officials at No. 10, and delivered by the Prince of Wales, in what sense is it 'the Queen's Speech?' For all we know, she hasn't even read it. Her Majesty's Government will introduce legislation to enact the Regency Act... Her Majesty's Government will introduce legislation for Her Majesty's Abdication... Come on Charles, you can do it. That deathlist poll even said so... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YouOnlyDieOnce 89 Posted May 9, 2022 On 28/04/2022 at 14:02, Ulitzer95 said: Looking good in today’s pic with the Swiss President. She’ll become the world’s 3rd longest reigning sovereign monarch in 10 days time. It'll be a bit of a bummer if she's a day short. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YouOnlyDieOnce 89 Posted May 9, 2022 Ma'am, to leave a good legacy, can you at least fire that wanker Boris Johnson while you can still speak? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LovelyVincent 25 Posted May 9, 2022 "i dedicate my life to my duty as Queen of this country..... ......but i won't go in a bloody wheelchair as its bad for ones image" I'm sorry but for fucksake. You can't do the whole ones life role and you won't abdicate because its your duty and then not do your job because you dont want to be seen in a bloody wheelchair. I'm not arsed if your mum didnt like being seen in a wheelchair she wasnt the monarch back then. Whats the point in the head of state holding on forever saying its her frigging duty and she wouldnt have the shame of abdication because she can't have the shame of being in a wheelchair. There is absolutely no value in her being monarch anymore (isnt the monarchy now just about the whole show and she cant even be wheeled out to do it?) So its either complete selfishness not going into a wheelchair to be wheeled out and completely making her whole "promise" a load of shite or she's seriously ill. Pick your side chaps 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted May 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, LovelyVincent said: "i dedicate my life to my duty as Queen of this country..... ......but i won't go in a bloody wheelchair as its bad for ones image" I'm sorry but for fucksake. You can't do the whole ones life role and you won't abdicate because its your duty and then not do your job because you dont want to be seen in a bloody wheelchair. I'm not arsed if your mum didnt like being seen in a wheelchair she wasnt the monarch back then. Whats the point in the head of state holding on forever saying its her frigging duty and she wouldnt have the shame of abdication because she can't have the shame of being in a wheelchair. There is absolutely no value in her being monarch anymore (isnt the monarchy now just about the whole show and she cant even be wheeled out to do it?) So its either complete selfishness not going into a wheelchair to be wheeled out and completely making her whole "promise" a load of shite or she's seriously ill. Pick your side chaps There is no side to pick. She is 96 and has gradually become less active, her son and grandson have been taking on duties that she once did. This is a point of transition from Queen to King. She could abdicate and leave her family to figure it all out, pretty much as she had to when her father died, or help them settle into the roles they are going to be taking, sooner rather than later. She is putting things into place for when she is no longer here and, seriously, she doesn't have long now. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LovelyVincent 25 Posted May 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: There is no side to pick. She is 96 and has gradually become less active, her son and grandson have been taking on duties that she once did. This is a point of transition from Queen to King. She could abdicate and leave her family to figure it all out, pretty much as she had to when her father died, or help them settle into the roles they are going to be taking, sooner rather than later. She is putting things into place for when she is no longer here and, seriously, she doesn't have long now. yep fair play but cant she announce a regency? Wait she keeps stating she won't as her "life is duty" and yet if its only mobility issues this is purely a pride issue? I know she's 96 and fair play but just announce the regency or abdication then. lets be honest the monarchy is purely a theatre show now. It can't function without its lead actor 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 10, 2022 7 hours ago, LovelyVincent said: yep fair play but cant she announce a regency? Wait she keeps stating she won't as her "life is duty" and yet if its only mobility issues this is purely a pride issue? I know she's 96 and fair play but just announce the regency or abdication then. lets be honest the monarchy is purely a theatre show now. It can't function without its lead actor 1. As has been mentioned several times, regency is for mental incapacity, usually due to infancy or senility. The Queen is still on top of all her government briefing documents and continues to carry out both virtual and in person audiences with dignitaries from a variety of sectors. 2. As LFN stated, part of this is choreographed. The idea the monarchy "can't function without its lead actor" is precisely the issue. The lead actor is on the way out in the next few years. Seeing Charles take the lead in things like the laying of wreaths at the Cenotaph and, now, the Queen's Speech is simply ensuring that when the Queen passes, the jolt to public life will be (slightly) less sudden, as we are used to Charles performing these functions instead of the Queen. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerbey 18 Posted May 10, 2022 14 hours ago, LovelyVincent said: "i dedicate my life to my duty as Queen of this country..... ......but i won't go in a bloody wheelchair as its bad for ones image" I'm sorry but for fucksake. You can't do the whole ones life role and you won't abdicate because its your duty and then not do your job because you dont want to be seen in a bloody wheelchair. I'm not arsed if your mum didnt like being seen in a wheelchair she wasnt the monarch back then. Whats the point in the head of state holding on forever saying its her frigging duty and she wouldnt have the shame of abdication because she can't have the shame of being in a wheelchair. There is absolutely no value in her being monarch anymore (isnt the monarchy now just about the whole show and she cant even be wheeled out to do it?) So its either complete selfishness not going into a wheelchair to be wheeled out and completely making her whole "promise" a load of shite or she's seriously ill. Pick your side chaps As far as we know she's still performing her official duties, still meeting with the PM, still meeting with other dignitaries and, most importantly, is not going senile She's just offloading the more ceremonial stuff to the younger Royals. Seems perfectly logical to me in view of her advanced age. We hope that all it is is "mobility issues" (I'll be happy to be breathing at 96!) and not a cover up for something more serious, but honestly she just looks old and frail and not a living corpse like Prince Philip did near the end of his life. So yeah, it'd be nice if she was seen out and about even if it was in a wheelchair and I don't think many people would begrudge a very old lady wanting to use one, but it's all about the image I guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted May 10, 2022 I never realised you get so many cars parked in the Sovereign's entrance, never mind with a Black Rod ensconced there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 10, 2022 Fun fact on the 6 o'clock News: apparently, it was under the terms of the 1937 Regency Act that Charles was able to deliver the Queen's Speech today. It is a limited usage and a temporary invocation, due to her mobility issues, but nothing more permanent is expected. So, in other words, whenever Charles fulfils a state function in place of the Queen, we will essentially live under a brief regency. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: Fun fact on the 6 o'clock News: apparently, it was under the terms of the 1937 Regency Act that Charles was able to deliver the Queen's Speech today. It is a limited usage and a temporary invocation, due to her mobility issues, but nothing more permanent is expected. So, in other words, whenever Charles fulfils a state function in place of the Queen, we will essentially live under a brief regency. Thats technically not true as those parts of the regency act hand him no decision making powers. He is only performing a task rather than exercising a sovereign power. Power remains entirely with the Monarch and as such, there is no regency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Windsor said: Thats technically not true as those parts of the regency act hand him no decision making powers. He is only performing a task rather than exercising a sovereign power. Power remains entirely with the Monarch and as such, there is no regency. Point taken. But the power to perform the task is provided to him via the terms of the 1937 Regency Act, as stated below: 6 Power to delegate royal functions to Counsellors of State. (1)In the event of illness not amounting to such infirmity of mind or body as is mentioned in section two of this Act, or of absence or intended absence from the United Kingdom, the Sovereign may, in order to prevent delay or difficulty in the despatch of public business, by Letters Patent under the Great Seal, delegate, for the period of that illness or absence, to Counsellors of State such of the royal functions as may be specified in the Letters Patent, and may in like manner revoke or vary any such delegation: Provided that no power F1... to grant any rank, title or dignity of the peerage may be delegated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LovelyVincent 25 Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Windsor said: Thats technically not true as those parts of the regency act hand him no decision making powers. He is only performing a task rather than exercising a sovereign power. Power remains entirely with the Monarch and as such, there is no regency. The Queen has zero decision making powers though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,572 Posted May 11, 2022 20 hours ago, zerbey said: As far as we know she's still performing her official duties, still meeting with the PM, still meeting with other dignitaries and, most importantly, is not going senile She's just offloading the more ceremonial stuff to the younger Royals. Seems perfectly logical to me in view of her advanced age. We hope that all it is is "mobility issues" (I'll be happy to be breathing at 96!) and not a cover up for something more serious, but honestly she just looks old and frail and not a living corpse like Prince Philip did near the end of his life. So yeah, it'd be nice if she was seen out and about even if it was in a wheelchair and I don't think many people would begrudge a very old lady wanting to use one, but it's all about the image I guess. She should use a nobility scooter 4 11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Bibliogryphon said: She should use a nobility scooter 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted May 13, 2022 Wee old lady gets nice wee trip out to see some horses. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,725 Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, msc said: Wee old lady gets nice wee trip out to see some horses. I nearly didn't recognise her in that disguise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerberus 302 Posted May 13, 2022 3 hours ago, msc said: Wee old lady gets nice wee trip out to see some horses. Using the Royal wee there, are we? "That's a long way to go in the middle of the night!" (Eric Morecambe, I think) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted May 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Cerberus said: Using the Royal wee there, are we? "That's a long way to go in the middle of the night!" (Eric Morecambe, I think) "She opened the door in her dressing gown. Funny place to put a door, I thought." (Chic Murray) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted May 14, 2022 Earlier this week The Times reported a sharp increase in the estimate of how much of the population think the Queen should retire. While a higher proportion still favour her to continue, the shift this week has been very notable: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-third-of-britons-think-the-queen-should-retire-nhwx6ppk8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted May 15, 2022 Turns up at the Platinum celebration live on ITV. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted May 15, 2022 We even saw brief footage of her getting out of the car and walking with a stick before photos of the Queen on various horses were shown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted May 15, 2022 Moved quite well all thing considered 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
