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Seeing as tomorrow is the Jubilee, a topical list to dump here. Every MP, peer, and baronet who is older than Her Majesty.

Plus I've also thrown in a few knights and dames for good measure, though compiling a complete list of those would be almost impossible.

Hereditary peers

Nathaniel Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes, 21st Baron Saye and Sele (b. 22 Sep 1920)
Andrew Douglas Alexander Thomas Bruce, 11th Earl of Elgin and 15th Earl of Kincardine (b. 17 Feb 1924)
John de Grey, 9th Baron Walsingham (b. 21 Feb 1925)
John Loder, 3rd Baron Wakehurst (b. 23 Sep 1925)
Michael Brudenell-Bruce, 8th Marquess of Ailesbury (b. 31 Mar 1926)

Baronets
Sir Humphrey Moon, presumed 7th Baronet (b. 9 Oct 1919)
Sir John Conant, 2nd Baronet (b. 24 Apr 1923)
Sir Peter Mills, 3rd Baronet (b. 9 Jul 1924) revealed on 27/10/22 that he died in June 2021!
Sir Benjamin Brodie, presumed 5th Baronet (b. 29 May 1925) revealed on 07/05/23 that he died in Jan 2021!

Life peers
Tony Christopher, Baron Christopher (b. 23 Apr 1925)
Doug Hoyle, Baron Hoyle (b. 17 Feb 1926)

MPs
Sir Patrick Duffy (b. 17 Jun 1920) Labour
Ben Ford (b. 1 Apr 1925) Labour revealed in 2024 that he died in April 2022!
Doug Hoyle, Baron Hoyle (b. 17 Feb 1926) Labour

Some additional knights/dames...
Sir Lloyd Geering (b. 26 Feb 1918) New Zealand theologian
Dame Frances Campbell-Preston (b. 2 Sep 1918) Lady-in-waiting to the Queen Mother
Sir Anthony Epstein (b. 18 May 1921) co-discoverer of the Epstein-Barr virus
Sir Simon Towneley (b. 14 Dec 1921) author and brother of Sir Peregrine Worsthorne
Sir Sydney Kentridge (b. 5 Nov 1922) South African lawyer
Sir Francis Graham-Smith (b. 25 Apr 1923) Astronomer Royal, 1982–1990
Sir Mervyn Brown (b. 24 Sep 1923) diplomat and historian
Sir James Hennessy (b. 26 Sep 1923) Chief Inspector of Prisons, 1982–1987
Sir Simon Bland (b. 4 Dec 1923) soldier and courtier
Sir Bryan Thwaites (b. 6 Dec 1923) mathematician
Sir Patrick Sergeant (b. 17 Mar 1924) investor and businessman
Sir Meuric Rees (b. Mar 1924) farmer and businessman
Sir Thomas Baird (b. 17 May 1924) Royal Navy Vice-Admiral
Sir Eric Neal (b. 3 Jun 1924) Governor of South Australia, 1996–2001
Sir Peter Marshall (b. 30 Jul 1924) diplomat
Sir Stephen Brown (b. 3 Oct 1924) judge
Sir David Butler (b. 17 Oct 1924) psephologist
Sir Roy Augier (b. 17 Dec 1924) academic
Sir Peter Hirsch (b. 16 Jan 1925) materials scientist
Sir Bom Gillies (b. 14 Feb 1925) last survivor of the Maori Battalion from WWII
Sir Peter Baxendell (b. 28 Feb 1925) petroleum engineer
Sir Oscar De Ville (b. 11 Apr 1925) businessman
Sir Anthony Mason (b. 21 Apr 1925) Chief Justice of Australia, 1987–1995
Sir Jack Petchey (b. 19 Jul 1925) businessman and philanthropist
Dame Angela Lansbury (b. 16 Oct 1925) actress
Sir Desmond Lorimer (b. 20 Oct 1925) banker
Sir Paul Fox (b. 27 Oct 1925) Controller of BBC1, 1967–1973
Sir Sydney Samuelson (b. 7 Dec 1925) film director and cinematographer
Sir Paul Girolami (b. 25 Jan 1926) businessman
Sir Donald Insall (b. 7 Feb 1926) architect and author
Sir Francis McWilliams (b. 8 Feb 1926) engineer and Lord Mayor of London, 1992–1993
Sir Max Williams (b. 18 Feb 1926) lawyer

If anyone knows of anymore knights/dames, please say and I'll add to the list.
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5 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Seeing as tomorrow is the Jubilee

 

It's interesting that tomorrow is the Jubilee.

 

The Queen actually became Queen by virtue of her father dying on 6th February 1952.

 

Her Coronation was on 2nd June 1953.

 

So tomorrow is 69 years since her Coronation or 70 years, 117 days since she became monarch by virtue of being the next heir to the throne.

 

So what is the relevance of 2nd June 2022 or what happened on 2nd June 1952 that makes tomorrow the Platinum Jubilee day?

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It's during half-term so the kids don't get any extra time off. They're basically creating a whole generation of republicans.

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2 minutes ago, Grim Up North said:

 

It's interesting that tomorrow is the Jubilee.

 

The Queen actually became Queen by virtue of her father dying on 6th February 1952.

 

Her Coronation was on 2nd June 1953.

 

So tomorrow is 69 years since her Coronation or 70 years, 117 days since she became monarch by virtue of being the next heir to the throne.

 

So what is the relevance of 2nd June 2022 or what happened on 2nd June 1952 that makes tomorrow the Platinum Jubilee day?


I believe it was so they could move the end of May bank holiday to the start of June in order to produce a four day weekend, which makes more sense.

Also, can't celebrate a Jubilee in winter! You need to factor in British weather. :lol:

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It's no half-term north of the border. B)

 

(Although, I'll be working from home with a chatterbox asking 10000 questions, so swings and roundabouts!)

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6 minutes ago, Grim Up North said:

 

It's interesting that tomorrow is the Jubilee.

The Queen actually became Queen by virtue of her father dying on 6th February 1952.

Her Coronation was on 2nd June 1953.

So tomorrow is 69 years since her Coronation or 70 years, 117 days since she became monarch by virtue of being the next heir to the throne.

So what is the relevance of 2nd June 2022 or what happened on 2nd June 1952 that makes tomorrow the Platinum Jubilee day?

 

It would not be appropriate to celebrate on the anniversary of the accession, because it is also the anniversary of the death of the previous monarch - usually a parent of the incumbent.

As mentioned, it needs to be in the summer because of the weather, so the date of the Coronation is quite fitting in this case.

Unfortunately the beginning of June tends to be rainy.

June Monsoon

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36 minutes ago, Grim Up North said:

 

It's interesting that tomorrow is the Jubilee.

 

The Queen actually became Queen by virtue of her father dying on 6th February 1952.

 

Her Coronation was on 2nd June 1953.

 

So tomorrow is 69 years since her Coronation or 70 years, 117 days since she became monarch by virtue of being the next heir to the throne.

 

So what is the relevance of 2nd June 2022 or what happened on 2nd June 1952 that makes tomorrow the Platinum Jubilee day?

Its the bloody yanks - 6 Feb  in UK is 2-6 in yankeeland, and 2 June is 6-2, hence the confusion. 

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This is going to irritate a lot of you, but the first day of Summer is 21st of June.

I take no notice of weather forecasters changing it June 1st,just to make their job easier  to explain the seasons.

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4 hours ago, Grim Up North said:

 

It's interesting that tomorrow is the Jubilee.

 

The Queen actually became Queen by virtue of her father dying on 6th February 1952.

 

Her Coronation was on 2nd June 1953.

 

So tomorrow is 69 years since her Coronation or 70 years, 117 days since she became monarch by virtue of being the next heir to the throne.

 

So what is the relevance of 2nd June 2022 or what happened on 2nd June 1952 that makes tomorrow the Platinum Jubilee day?

 

The date has no significance.

 

A 4 or 5 day bank holiday weekend in February would be shite though. There's a 1/5000 chance it might not rain in June. 

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BBC have given a further heads up on who to expect in the form guide that is the balcony picture tomorrow (has it actually been confirmed the Queen is attending Trooping the Colour tomorrow? She's been out and about more recently so I'm assuming it's likely, but I thought confirmations would be coming on the day?)

 

17 expected to appear:

1. HM The Queen

2 and 3. Prince Charles and Camilla

4 and 5. Prince William and Kate

6. Prince George

7. Princess Charlotte

8 and 9. Princess Anne and Tim

10 and 11. Prince Edward and Sophie

12. Lady Louise

13. James, Viscount Severn

 

Perhaps of more interest to the likes to us:

14 and 15. Duke and Duchess of Gloucester

16. Duke of Kent

17. Princess Alexandra

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61469632

 

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Also a new portrait released of the cancer-riddled girl on her deathbed. :rolleyes:

 

The Queen

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8 hours ago, RoverAndOut said:

BBC have given a further heads up on who to expect in the form guide that is the balcony picture tomorrow (has it actually been confirmed the Queen is attending Trooping the Colour tomorrow? She's been out and about more recently so I'm assuming it's likely, but I thought confirmations would be coming on the day?)

 

17 expected to appear:

1. HM The Queen

2 and 3. Prince Charles and Camilla

4 and 5. Prince William and Kate

6. Prince George

7. Princess Charlotte

8 and 9. Princess Anne and Tim

10 and 11. Prince Edward and Sophie

12. Lady Louise

13. James, Viscount Severn

 

Perhaps of more interest to the likes to us:

14 and 15. Duke and Duchess of Gloucester

16. Duke of Kent

17. Princess Alexandra

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61469632

 


Did the BBC forget that the Cambridges have another sprog, or has Prince Louis left for a life in California too?

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24 minutes ago, Windsor said:


Did the BBC forget that the Cambridges have another sprog, or has Prince Louis left for a life in California too?

He’s the new face of Goop….

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Incredible to think I just about remember the Silver Jubilee in 1977. We had a street party where the entertainment was a man with a beard playing an organ in the street.

 

Now 45 years later I have a partner with beard in my bedroom wanting to play with my organ. 
 

What goes around comes around. 

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The tendency for jubilees to be staged in the summer months also applies to coronations of course. Recently the monarchs have obligingly died at the beginning of the year allowing 15 months or so to plan for the coronation the following year (George VI was simply given the date originally allotted to his brother). But Charles is screwed if the Queen goes in say, November. It would only allow a few months for his coronation to be organised - you'd think it would have to be August at the latest. No way would he wait until the following year. 

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Let's have a flag count. I live on an estate of  63 houses and after a quick walk around the total is one Union Jack and no bunting whatsoever.

Also no street parties planned.

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5 hours ago, Windsor said:


Did the BBC forget that the Cambridges have another sprog, or has Prince Louis left for a life in California too?

 

Yes, what's going on with Louis?  He's been missing on the last few occasions.

Here he is on the balcony in 2019, held by William.

 

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10 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Yes, what's going on with Louis?  He's been missing on the last few occasions.

Here he is on the balcony in 2019, held by William.

 

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He's in the carriage to and from Trooping the Colour, so I assume he's going to be on the balcony. But that makes 18 by my count (I missed him off the list as without him it made the expected 17 and he seemed the most obvious omission of the possible guests). :scratchhead:

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On 14/11/2021 at 22:59, The Old Crem said:

It’s funny how on here people correctly guess based on the tiniest evidence that someone is seriously ill yet here there is lots of evidence and everyone thinks she is still in excellent health. 

 

13 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

The Queen looks very well today.

 

An incredible recovery you'd have to say... :rolleyes:

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Not attending the Thanksgiving service tomorrow after experiencing some discomfort today statement by Buckingham Palace

 

 

That'll be the Stage IV Pancreatic Cancer then.........

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23 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said:

Not attending the Thanksgiving service tomorrow after experiencing some discomfort today statement by Buckingham Palacr

 

 

That'll be the Stage IV Pancreatic Cancer then.........

It’d an odd illness she has. 

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She can’t be bollocksed for any more of this.

 

That is all.

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23 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

It’d an odd illness she has. 

 

It's not an illness, it's an ailment. She's got mobility problems, most probably back-related. She's clearly still sharp, but her body is playing up, as it often does at 96-years-old.

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