Bibliogryphon 9,593 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, YoungWillz said: I did mean last time Netherlands won, but good spot Biblio. The Hague seems to be the place, but maybe discussions over there are looking for a modern venue? Sleepy Maastricht seems odd. I presume they have had some state of the art venues open in the past 40 years so I imagine it will depend on what is available. I remember the contest being held in The Hague in 1980 because it was the first time I had heard of the place. Before that the only place I new in Holland was Amsterdam (from the song about the mice and windmills etc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaagheid 141 Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, YoungWillz said: I did mean last time Netherlands won, but good spot Biblio. The Hague seems to be the place, but maybe discussions over there are looking for a modern venue? Sleepy Maastricht seems odd. I read some Dutch articles about this. The issue is the location, while Amsterdam has a lot of big concerthalls they are also very fully booked throughout the year (so they really need to cancel some stuff). Also there are concerns about Amsterdam because they are already trying to control the masstourism there. Rotterdam is also being named because they have a big concerthalls for the occasion (which might also be scheduled full). But if they want it in a big city that isn't Amsterdam then Rotterdam seems like the best option. Other places i heard being mentioned where Maastricht, Arnhem (with one of the biggest footbal stadiums), Zwolle and in lesser degrees The Hague (barely in the conversation at this point) and Utrecht. The reason why Maastricht keeps floathing to the top is the amount of work they already put into it (they seem to already have a very detailed worked out-plan ready) and because they clearly are campaigning the hardest so far to get it their. All proposals apparently need to be send to the AVROTROS (broadcasting organisation) who then decide. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted May 20, 2019 The Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam would be the sensible place to hold this, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaagheid 141 Posted May 20, 2019 Might as well post here what some of the major newspapers are saying about the location. Just put it in your prefered online translate-program. Volkskrant Trouw Parool 27 minutes ago, Deathray said: The Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam would be the sensible place to hold this, no? Amsterdam seems like the most logical option but there is also a lot of pushback towards it. Like with Venice there have been a lot of complaints how masstourism (which increased since Amsterdam became world heritage) has made the city unlivable. So there are people who don't want to bring an event there which creates more masstourism. Also the rest of the country oftenly has issues with everything being placed in Amsterdam. I assume it is a bit of capital-envy. As for The Hague, while it is the 3rd largest city (and Seat of Government) it however doesn't have a University, which in turn prevents it from having a lot of students and therefor they don't really have a large concertveneu (as far as i know) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,593 Posted May 20, 2019 It could be Rotterdam or anywhere. Phone call to Paul Heaton 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaagheid 141 Posted June 29, 2019 Little update on the location. The Hague withdrew because they couldn't find a suitable location to held it. So there is now a shortlist of Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht, Arnhem, Maastricht, Breda and Den Bosch. They have to send in a plan and in August the city is selected. Edit: Breda is now out to, because the costs for the city where to high. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaagheid 141 Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) On 29/06/2019 at 22:57, Vaagheid said: Little update on the location. The Hague withdrew because they couldn't find a suitable location to held it. So there is now a shortlist of Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht, Arnhem, Maastricht, Breda and Den Bosch. They have to send in a plan and in August the city is selected. Edit: Breda is now out to, because the costs for the city where to high. Just read that Amsterdam officially withdrew now. link Utrecht didn't officially withdrew but the majority of the city council rather uses that money on renovations of the old city wall. (Good for them). So it is between Rotterdam, Arnhem, Den Bosch and Maastricht. So it likely Will be Rotterdam. Edited July 5, 2019 by Vaagheid added link 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaagheid 141 Posted July 12, 2019 On 05/07/2019 at 16:59, Vaagheid said: Just read that Amsterdam officially withdrew now. link Utrecht didn't officially withdrew but the majority of the city council rather uses that money on renovations of the old city wall. (Good for them). So it is between Rotterdam, Arnhem, Den Bosch and Maastricht. So it likely Will be Rotterdam. Two cities left but the broadcasting channel isn't saying which two. link 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,610 Posted July 17, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 19:55, Vaagheid said: Two cities left but the broadcasting channel isn't saying which two. link It appears its Rotterdam v Maastricht. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladan 293 Posted July 17, 2019 Jori Sivonen has died at 71. He composed "Titanic" that failed to become Finland's 1981 entry. It hit an iceberg in the national selection. Excellent song though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,078 Posted July 29, 2019 Singer of Sweden's 1962 entry Inger Berggren has reportedly died: https://eurovoix.com/2019/07/29/sweden-inger-berggren-has-died-aged-85/ Quite a jolly number: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,078 Posted August 27, 2019 Jay Aston of Bucks Fizz.... to stand for Brexit Party. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49486164 "What are you going to do about the economy?" Jay: "You gotta speed it up, then you gotta slow it down..." 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,743 Posted August 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Jay Aston of Bucks Fizz.... to stand for Brexit Party. Jay, Eurovision =/= Europe no matter what the psychological scars. Still, you've made your mind up. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Uncle Bulgaria 1,294 Posted August 28, 2019 17 hours ago, En Passant said: Jay, Eurovision =/= Europe no matter what the psychological scars. Still, you've made your mind up. Yeah, but she's living in the land of make believe... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,566 Posted August 30, 2019 This could be Rotterdam or anywhere Liverpool or Rome 'Cause Rotterdam is anywhere Anywhere alone Anywhere alone https://eurovision.tv/story/rotterdam-to-host-eurovision-2020 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted September 19, 2019 Ireland's 1972 entry Sandie Jones has died at 68 https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0919/1077016-irish-eurovision-singer-sandie-jones-dies-aged-68/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,078 Posted September 20, 2019 15 hours ago, CoffinLodger said: Ireland's 1972 entry Sandie Jones has died at 68 https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0919/1077016-irish-eurovision-singer-sandie-jones-dies-aged-68/ Ceol an Ghra - only entry in Gaelic? The year we had The New Seekers, which remains legendary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,078 Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, TomTomTelekom said: Breaking News: Czech pop star Karel Gott who has released twenty-six studio albums and has been voted Most Favorite Male Singer multiple times in the Czech Republic died at 80 years: https://magazin.aktualne.cz/kultura/hudba/zemrel-karel-gott-legende-ceske-pop-music-bylo-80-let/r~aac1fd90dddc11e9858fac1f6b220ee8/ Karel Gott, unlucky 13th in the 1968 Contest with Tausend Fenster for Austria: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,078 Posted October 26, 2019 DDP Pick Natalya Pugacheva, one of those dreadful Russian Grannies, reported dead: https://escbubble.com/2019/10/natalia-pugacheva-dies-at-83/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,359 Posted November 2, 2019 Irish folk fusion violinist and vocalist Fionnula Sherry, who won the 1995 Eurovision for Norway as half of the duo Secret Garden, has been diagnosed with breast cancer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiroemonKimura 95 Posted December 18, 2019 Niels Olsen, half of the 2000 winning team Olsen brothers, has brain cancer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted December 18, 2019 13 hours ago, JiroemonKimura said: Niels Olsen, half of the 2000 winning team Olsen brothers, has brain cancer. LOL @ translator FAIL "The first fame came to the brothers as the big boys with ungdomsbandet Kids, when they were just 15 and 11 years. " Someone want to take a crack at that? SC (EDIT: I thought you found us all a late DDP addition, but "the doctors have given him between 2 and 4 years to live in, and that he currently receives treatment." So Sir Creep's going to pass until 2021). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedUp 16 Posted December 18, 2019 Youth band. They were in a youth band called The Kids. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,078 Posted December 19, 2019 Alain Barriere who represented France at the 1963 Contest in Londres finishing fifth, dead at 84: https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://www.lemonde.fr/disparitions/article/2019/12/19/le-chanteur-alain-barriere-est-mort_6023389_3382.html&prev=search Elle Etait Si Jolie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2tzFKthcVs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
