msc 18,375 Posted September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Part of the 1958 runner-up Sweden team at the 1958 WC Finals and oft mooted here, Agne Simonsson is dead at 84: https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=https://www.expressen.se/gt/sport/fotboll/allsvenskan/agne-simonsson-dod-blev-84-ar/&prev=search&pto=aue Man I'm going to look daft when "picked several times by me" Kurt Hamrin is actually last man standing from that final. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,375 Posted September 23, 2020 Updated after 4 years, the living finalists: 1930-1950 - No one. 1954 West Germany 1-0 Hungary Horst Eckel (b. 1932) - last man standing 1958 Brazil 2-2 Sweden Pele (b. 1940), Mario Zagallo (b. 1931) Reino Borjesson (b. 1929), Kurt Hamrin (b. 1934) 1962 Brazil 2-2 Czech Republic Amarildo (b. 1940), Mario Zagallo (b. 1931) Josef Jelinek (b. 1941), Adolf Scherer (b. 1938) 1966 England 5-8 West Germany George Cohen (b. 1939), Nobby Stiles (b. 1942), Bobby Charlton (b. 1937), Geoff Hurst (b. 1941), Roger Hunt (b. 1938) Horst-Dieter Hottges (b. 1943), Willi Schulz (b. 1938), Wolfgang Weber (b. 1944), Karl-Heinz Schnellinger (b. 1939), Franz Beckenbauer (b. 1945), Wolfgang Overath (b. 1943), Uwe Seeler (b. 1936), Sigfried Held (b. 1942) (This was level in August 2016 but the last four years have been brutal to the England 66 team....) 1970 Brazil 8-9 Italy Brito (b. 1939), Piazza (b. 1943), Clodoaldo (b. 1949), Gerson (b. 1941), Jairzinho (b. 1944), Tostao (b. 1947), Pele (b. 1940), Rivellino (b. 1946) Enrico Albertosi (b. 1939), Tarcisio Burgnich (b. 1939), Pierluigi Cera (b. 1941), Mario Bertini (b. 1944), Angelo Domenghini (b. 1941), Giancarlo De Sisti (b. 1943), Sandro Mazzola (b. 1942), Gigi Riva (b. 1944), Roberto Boninsegna (b. 1943) Antonio Juliano (sub, b. 1943), Gianni Rivera (sub, b. 1943) Only change is 2016 death of Carlos Alberto... 1974 Holland 8-11 West Germany Jan Jongbloed (b. 1940),Wim Rijsbergen (b. 1952), Arie Haan (b. 1948), Ruud Krol (b. 1949), Wim Jansen (b. 1946), Johan Neeskens (b. 1951), Willem van Hanegem (b. 1944), Johnny Rep (b. 1951) Subs – Theo de Jong (b. 1947), Rene van de Kerkhof (b. 1951) Sepp Maier (b. 1944), Berti Vogts (b. 1946), Franz Beckenbauer (b. 1945), Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck (b. 1948), Paul Breitner (b. 1951), Ranier Bonhof (b. 1952), Uli Hoeness (b. 1952), Wolfgang Overath (b. 1943), Jurgen Grabowski (b. 1944), Gerd Muller (b. 1945), Bernd Holzenbein (b. 1946) The German's 74 team still has all 11 finalists still living, although a few aren't well. 1978 Argentina 11-10 Holland Ubaldo Fillol (b. 1950), Jorge Olguin (b. 1952), Luis Galvan (b. 1948), Daniel Passarella (b. 1953), Alberto Tarantini (b. 1955), Americo Gallego (b. 1955), Osvaldo Ardiles (b. 1952), Mario Kempes (b. 1954), Daniel Bertoni (b. 1955), Oscar Alberto Ortiz (b. 1953), Leopoldo Luque (b. 1949) Jan Jongbloed (b. 1940), Ruud Krol (b. 1949), Wim Jansen (b. 1946), Johan Neeskens (b. 1951), Arie Haan (b. 1948), Rene van de Kerkhof (b. 1951), Johnny Rep (b. 1951), Ernie Brandts (b. 1956), Jan Poortvliet (b. 1955), Wily van de Kerkhof (b. 1951) Subs – Omar Larrosa, (b. 1947) Oddly only one starter in 1978 (Rensenbrink) has died but 3 of the 4 subs have (Suurbier, Nanninga, Houseman) so look out Omar Larrosa. 1982 Itay 10-11 West Germany Dino Zoff (1942), Claudio Gentile (1953), Fulvio Collovati (1957), Giuseppe Bergomi (1963), Antonio Cabrini (1957), Gabriele Oriali (1952), Marco Tardelli (1954), Bruno Conti (1955), Francesco Graziani (1952), Paolo Rossi (1956) Toni Schumacher (1954), Uli Stielike (1954), Karlheinz Forster (1958), Bernd Forster (1956), Manfred Keltz (1953), Hans-Peter Breigel (1955), Wolfgang Dremmler (1954), Paul Breitner (1951), Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (1954), Pierre Littbarski (1960), Klaus Fischer (1949) subs- Alessandro Altobelli (1955), Franco Causio (1949), Hansi Muller (1957), Horst Hrubesch (1951) 1986 has Cucciofio and Brown from Maradona's team dead and a whole lot of far too young people to mention. 1990 World Cup final still all standing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,161 Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, msc said: Updated after 4 years, the living finalists: 1930-1950 - No one. 1954 West Germany 1-0 Hungary Horst Eckel (b. 1932) - last man standing 1958 Brazil 2-2 Sweden Pele (b. 1940), Mario Zagallo (b. 1931) Reino Borjesson (b. 1929), Kurt Hamrin (b. 1934) 1962 Brazil 2-2 Czech Republic Amarildo (b. 1940), Mario Zagallo (b. 1931) Josef Jelinek (b. 1941), Adolf Scherer (b. 1938) 1966 England 5-8 West Germany George Cohen (b. 1939), Nobby Stiles (b. 1942), Bobby Charlton (b. 1937), Geoff Hurst (b. 1941), Roger Hunt (b. 1938) Horst-Dieter Hottges (b. 1943), Willi Schulz (b. 1938), Wolfgang Weber (b. 1944), Karl-Heinz Schnellinger (b. 1939), Franz Beckenbauer (b. 1945), Wolfgang Overath (b. 1943), Uwe Seeler (b. 1936), Sigfried Held (b. 1942) (This was level in August 2016 but the last four years have been brutal to the England 66 team....) 1970 Brazil 8-9 Italy Brito (b. 1939), Piazza (b. 1943), Clodoaldo (b. 1949), Gerson (b. 1941), Jairzinho (b. 1944), Tostao (b. 1947), Pele (b. 1940), Rivellino (b. 1946) Enrico Albertosi (b. 1939), Tarcisio Burgnich (b. 1939), Pierluigi Cera (b. 1941), Mario Bertini (b. 1944), Angelo Domenghini (b. 1941), Giancarlo De Sisti (b. 1943), Sandro Mazzola (b. 1942), Gigi Riva (b. 1944), Roberto Boninsegna (b. 1943) Antonio Juliano (sub, b. 1943), Gianni Rivera (sub, b. 1943) Only change is 2016 death of Carlos Alberto... 1974 Holland 8-11 West Germany Jan Jongbloed (b. 1940),Wim Rijsbergen (b. 1952), Arie Haan (b. 1948), Ruud Krol (b. 1949), Wim Jansen (b. 1946), Johan Neeskens (b. 1951), Willem van Hanegem (b. 1944), Johnny Rep (b. 1951) Subs – Theo de Jong (b. 1947), Rene van de Kerkhof (b. 1951) Sepp Maier (b. 1944), Berti Vogts (b. 1946), Franz Beckenbauer (b. 1945), Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck (b. 1948), Paul Breitner (b. 1951), Ranier Bonhof (b. 1952), Uli Hoeness (b. 1952), Wolfgang Overath (b. 1943), Jurgen Grabowski (b. 1944), Gerd Muller (b. 1945), Bernd Holzenbein (b. 1946) The German's 74 team still has all 11 finalists still living, although a few aren't well. 1978 Argentina 11-10 Holland Ubaldo Fillol (b. 1950), Jorge Olguin (b. 1952), Luis Galvan (b. 1948), Daniel Passarella (b. 1953), Alberto Tarantini (b. 1955), Americo Gallego (b. 1955), Osvaldo Ardiles (b. 1952), Mario Kempes (b. 1954), Daniel Bertoni (b. 1955), Oscar Alberto Ortiz (b. 1953), Leopoldo Luque (b. 1949) Jan Jongbloed (b. 1940), Ruud Krol (b. 1949), Wim Jansen (b. 1946), Johan Neeskens (b. 1951), Arie Haan (b. 1948), Rene van de Kerkhof (b. 1951), Johnny Rep (b. 1951), Ernie Brandts (b. 1956), Jan Poortvliet (b. 1955), Wily van de Kerkhof (b. 1951) Subs – Omar Larrosa, (b. 1947) Oddly only one starter in 1978 (Rensenbrink) has died but 3 of the 4 subs have (Suurbier, Nanninga, Houseman) so look out Omar Larrosa. 1982 Itay 10-11 West Germany Dino Zoff (1942), Claudio Gentile (1953), Fulvio Collovati (1957), Giuseppe Bergomi (1963), Antonio Cabrini (1957), Gabriele Oriali (1952), Marco Tardelli (1954), Bruno Conti (1955), Francesco Graziani (1952), Paolo Rossi (1956) Toni Schumacher (1954), Uli Stielike (1954), Karlheinz Forster (1958), Bernd Forster (1956), Manfred Keltz (1953), Hans-Peter Breigel (1955), Wolfgang Dremmler (1954), Paul Breitner (1951), Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (1954), Pierre Littbarski (1960), Klaus Fischer (1949) subs- Alessandro Altobelli (1955), Franco Causio (1949), Hansi Muller (1957), Horst Hrubesch (1951) 1986 has Cucciofio and Brown from Maradona's team dead and a whole lot of far too young people to mention. 1990 World Cup final still all standing What stands out from this list is how well the Germans are doing in the game of life and death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,716 Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Deathrace said: 1966 England 5-8 West Germany George Cohen (b. 1939), Nobby Stiles (b. 1942), Bobby Charlton (b. 1937), Geoff Hurst (b. 1941), Roger Hunt (b. 1938) Horst-Dieter Hottges (b. 1943), Willi Schulz (b. 1938), Wolfgang Weber (b. 1944), Karl-Heinz Schnellinger (b. 1939), Franz Beckenbauer (b. 1945), Wolfgang Overath (b. 1943), Uwe Seeler (b. 1936), Sigfried Held (b. 1942) (This was level in August 2016 but the last four years have been brutal to the England 66 team....) Nobby Stiles will win it for us - he hit the bar and fell just the right side of the line. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,175 Posted September 23, 2020 8 hours ago, msc said: Updated after 4 years, the living finalists: 1930-1950 - No one. 1954 West Germany 1-0 Hungary Horst Eckel (b. 1932) - last man standing 1958 Brazil 2-2 Sweden Pele (b. 1940), Mario Zagallo (b. 1931) Reino Borjesson (b. 1929), Kurt Hamrin (b. 1934) 1962 Brazil 2-2 Czech Republic Amarildo (b. 1940), Mario Zagallo (b. 1931) Josef Jelinek (b. 1941), Adolf Scherer (b. 1938) 1966 England 5-8 West Germany George Cohen (b. 1939), Nobby Stiles (b. 1942), Bobby Charlton (b. 1937), Geoff Hurst (b. 1941), Roger Hunt (b. 1938) Horst-Dieter Hottges (b. 1943), Willi Schulz (b. 1938), Wolfgang Weber (b. 1944), Karl-Heinz Schnellinger (b. 1939), Franz Beckenbauer (b. 1945), Wolfgang Overath (b. 1943), Uwe Seeler (b. 1936), Sigfried Held (b. 1942) (This was level in August 2016 but the last four years have been brutal to the England 66 team....) 1970 Brazil 8-9 Italy Brito (b. 1939), Piazza (b. 1943), Clodoaldo (b. 1949), Gerson (b. 1941), Jairzinho (b. 1944), Tostao (b. 1947), Pele (b. 1940), Rivellino (b. 1946) Enrico Albertosi (b. 1939), Tarcisio Burgnich (b. 1939), Pierluigi Cera (b. 1941), Mario Bertini (b. 1944), Angelo Domenghini (b. 1941), Giancarlo De Sisti (b. 1943), Sandro Mazzola (b. 1942), Gigi Riva (b. 1944), Roberto Boninsegna (b. 1943) Antonio Juliano (sub, b. 1943), Gianni Rivera (sub, b. 1943) Only change is 2016 death of Carlos Alberto... 1974 Holland 8-11 West Germany Jan Jongbloed (b. 1940),Wim Rijsbergen (b. 1952), Arie Haan (b. 1948), Ruud Krol (b. 1949), Wim Jansen (b. 1946), Johan Neeskens (b. 1951), Willem van Hanegem (b. 1944), Johnny Rep (b. 1951) Subs – Theo de Jong (b. 1947), Rene van de Kerkhof (b. 1951) Sepp Maier (b. 1944), Berti Vogts (b. 1946), Franz Beckenbauer (b. 1945), Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck (b. 1948), Paul Breitner (b. 1951), Ranier Bonhof (b. 1952), Uli Hoeness (b. 1952), Wolfgang Overath (b. 1943), Jurgen Grabowski (b. 1944), Gerd Muller (b. 1945), Bernd Holzenbein (b. 1946) The German's 74 team still has all 11 finalists still living, although a few aren't well. 1978 Argentina 11-10 Holland Ubaldo Fillol (b. 1950), Jorge Olguin (b. 1952), Luis Galvan (b. 1948), Daniel Passarella (b. 1953), Alberto Tarantini (b. 1955), Americo Gallego (b. 1955), Osvaldo Ardiles (b. 1952), Mario Kempes (b. 1954), Daniel Bertoni (b. 1955), Oscar Alberto Ortiz (b. 1953), Leopoldo Luque (b. 1949) Jan Jongbloed (b. 1940), Ruud Krol (b. 1949), Wim Jansen (b. 1946), Johan Neeskens (b. 1951), Arie Haan (b. 1948), Rene van de Kerkhof (b. 1951), Johnny Rep (b. 1951), Ernie Brandts (b. 1956), Jan Poortvliet (b. 1955), Wily van de Kerkhof (b. 1951) Subs – Omar Larrosa, (b. 1947) Oddly only one starter in 1978 (Rensenbrink) has died but 3 of the 4 subs have (Suurbier, Nanninga, Houseman) so look out Omar Larrosa. 1982 Itay 10-11 West Germany Dino Zoff (1942), Claudio Gentile (1953), Fulvio Collovati (1957), Giuseppe Bergomi (1963), Antonio Cabrini (1957), Gabriele Oriali (1952), Marco Tardelli (1954), Bruno Conti (1955), Francesco Graziani (1952), Paolo Rossi (1956) Toni Schumacher (1954), Uli Stielike (1954), Karlheinz Forster (1958), Bernd Forster (1956), Manfred Keltz (1953), Hans-Peter Breigel (1955), Wolfgang Dremmler (1954), Paul Breitner (1951), Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (1954), Pierre Littbarski (1960), Klaus Fischer (1949) subs- Alessandro Altobelli (1955), Franco Causio (1949), Hansi Muller (1957), Horst Hrubesch (1951) 1986 has Cucciofio and Brown from Maradona's team dead and a whole lot of far too young people to mention. 1990 World Cup final still all standing Eder is dead from West Germany 1986. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,175 Posted September 30, 2020 Brazilian player Walter Machado da Silva, who played once for Brazil in the 1966 World Cup (versus Portugal) has died, aged 80. Source is in Catalan - https://www.fcbarcelona.cat/ca/noticies/1848914/mor-walter-machado-da-silva/amp 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whitehouse 871 Posted October 7, 2020 Panenka, yes THE Panenka is currently in hospital on the IC with Corona. And he's not doing well.... Cheating death with a chip shot will be a massive task. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ROG4-QPIDgo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,079 Posted October 9, 2020 Yes, although Czech healthcare is some of the best around, Panenka is not in good shape generally, and the Czech diet is poor, so I don't think his chances are great. He will forever be a hero for his penalty and helping Czechoslovakia win the 1976 European Championships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,720 Posted October 21, 2020 On 27/06/2018 at 23:55, Octopus of Odstock said: 1962 survivors below - that's the last list for now. 1962 – 155 survivors Chile 2 DF Luis Eyzaguirre 22 June 1939 (aged 22) 4 DF Sergio Navarro 20 November 1936 (aged 25) 5 DF Carlos Contreras 7 October 1938 (aged 23) 8 MF Jorge Toro 10 January 1939 (aged 23) 11 FW Leonel Sánchez 25 April 1936 (aged 26) 12 GK Adán Godoy 26 November 1936 (aged 25) 13 DF Sergio Valdés 22 June 1935 (aged 26) 15 DF Manuel Rodríguez 18 January 1938 (aged 24) 16 DF Humberto Cruz 6 December 1934 (aged 27) 19 FW Braulio Musso 24 May 1937 (aged 25) 20 FW Carlos Campos 14 February 1937 (aged 25) 22 GK Manuel Astorga 16 March 1943 (aged 19) Carlos Campos not dead, but in critical condition due to non-COVID related respiratory failure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarcJWallace 270 Posted October 27, 2020 Gilberto Penayo, part of Paraguay's team for the 1958 tournament, has died aged 87. Unclear on his total number of caps and goals, but it does say he made several appearances and was also part of the Paraguay team who came third in the Copa America the year after the aforementioned World Cup appearance. https://www.hoy.com.py/deportes/fallece-gilberto-penayo-otrora-goleador-de-cerro-porteno 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,459 Posted November 10, 2020 Tony Waiters, 257 appearances for Blackpool and five between the sticks for England, he was one of the last players dropped for the 66 squad. However, after his career was over he went over to Canada to manage and led them to their only World Cup appearance in 1986, thus qualifying him for this thread. Dead at 83. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,720 Posted November 11, 2020 On 21/10/2020 at 18:50, drol said: Carlos Campos not dead, but in critical condition due to non-COVID related respiratory failure. And that's your Carlos Campos dead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,890 Posted November 12, 2020 And that's your Albert Quixall dead: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,175 Posted November 12, 2020 Last survivor of the 1954 squad - England join Yugoslavia, Hungary, Belgium, Brazil and the Czechs as having no survivors left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,161 Posted November 12, 2020 3 hours ago, YoungWillz said: And that's your Albert Quixall dead: Must admit I thought he'd died in the 1990s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,382 Posted November 13, 2020 On 15/07/2013 at 00:11, Octopus of Odstock said: 1954 survivors (including non-playing members of the squad) Uruguay No......Pos......Player...................DoB/Age........................................................Caps.......Club 2........2DF.....José Santamaría...(1929-07-31)31 July 1929 (aged 24)............3.............Nacional 6........3MF....Roberto Leopardi...(1933-07-19)19 July 1933 (aged 20)............3.............Nacional 13......2DF....Mirto Davoine.........(1933-02-13)13 February 1933 (aged 21)....1............Peñarol 15......3MF....Urbano Rivera........(1926-04-01)1 April 1926 (aged 28)..............8...........Danubio 18......4FW...Rafael Souto..........(1930-10-24)24 October 1930 (aged 23).......4...........Nacional 20......4FW...Omar Méndez.........(1934-08-07)7 August 1934 (aged 19)..........3...........Nacional @Octopus of Odstock, maybe you know about this but there's an article here dated 29th July 2002. Two paragraphs down it talks about a moment's silence for the memory of the LATE Urbano Rivera. So likely he died that month. Translation of 2nd paragraph: "The Jardines loudspeaker network sent one that deserved "sticks" from its people. Yesterday while the minute of silence in memory of the late Urbano Rivera, a former Danubio player in the 1950s, was being fulfilled, the man went on and on with the formations. As he did not stop, people began to turn around and with gestures they silenced him, so the minute was "longer" than expected." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,175 Posted November 13, 2020 I think, without being home to check, that I did know. Either way, great find! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beachy Head 33 Posted November 15, 2020 Ray Clemence brown dead at age 72 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fergie86 370 Posted November 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Beachy Head said: Ray Clemence brown dead at age 72 Just got the news on the sky app, really surprised knew he was ill with Cancer a few years ago but thought he had beaten it obviously not sadly, easily one of the best goalkeepers of his generation and has secured his place as one of the great goalkeepers of all time. Won 3 European Cups with Liverpool alongside various Leagues and Cups and Won UEFA Cup with Spurs as well as playing over 1,000 career games is some record. As a United fan I’m not overly keen on a lot of ex Liverpool players(Dalglish, Souness etc) of that era as they come across as so arrogant and Liverpool can do no wrong (though I suppose same could be said about United players from our successful era)even if I admire and respect there records but Ray Clemence along with Keegan were one’s I liked as they came across as genuinely nice down to earth people I wasn’t expecting the news as I’m sure a lot weren’t RIP Ray sad loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,175 Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Beachy Head said: Ray Clemence brown dead at age 72 Never played in a World Cup Finals game though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,025 Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Octopus of Odstock said: Never played in a World Cup Finals game though... But was in the 1982 squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,175 Posted November 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Toast said: But was in the 1982 squad. Not good enough for OoO's strict rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,025 Posted November 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: Not good enough for OoO's strict rules. Ah! would have qualified for the Scavenger Hunt, but nobody picked him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,686 Posted November 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Toast said: Ah! would have qualified for the Scavenger Hunt, but nobody picked him. Odd given he's had prostate cancer since the early 2000s. Has this only come to light since he died or has it been known before? (I could search, but you know...) Anyway, glad he's a miss, there's been altogether too much action already in the Scavenger Hunt recently. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exu 250 Posted November 15, 2020 The word legend gets overused, but nit in this case. A tremendously successful club career that many modern English players would struggle to emulate. Shame his career ran parallel with Peter shilton who was a slightly better keeper at his peak in my opinion. My generation grew up watching his team rule the domestic and Eurooean game. RIP 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites