arghton 6,642 Posted December 22, 2022 Recent Bilardo image More new images here. He's "fine" but "not the same as before" and under 24/7 care 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,364 Posted December 23, 2022 George Cohen dead at 83. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,086 Posted December 25, 2022 Fabian O’Neill, who was in Uruguay’s squad in 2002, is dead : https://www.teledoce.com/telemundo/nacionales/fallecio-a-los-49-anos-el-exfutbolista-de-nacional-y-de-la-seleccion-uruguaya-fabian-oneill/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 1,966 Posted December 27, 2022 On 25/11/2021 at 09:03, whoismakoto said: I've listed living footballers who played in 1970 World Cup. If a living player is missing, it means the player has played in a previous World Cup Mexico Francisco Montes Mario Pérez Marcos Rivas Horacio López Salgado José Vantolrá Héctor Pulido Javier Valdivia Juan Ignacio Basaguren Francisco Castrejón Soviet Union Leonid Shmuts Revaz Dzodzuashvili Evgeny Lovchev Valeri Zykov Nikolay Kiselyov Vladimir Muntyan Anatoliy Byshovets Belgium Paul van Himst Christian Piot Georges Heylens Jean Thissen Nicolas Dewalque Léon Semmeling Johan Devrindt Maurice Martens Erwin Vandendaele Odilon Polleunis Jan Verheyen Raoul Lambert Frans Janssens Jacques Duquesne El Salvador Salvador Mariona Pipo Rodríguez Jorge Vásquez Juan Ramón Martínez Salvador Cabezas Ernesto Aparicio Mario Monge Tomás Pineda Mauricio Manzano David Cabrera Genaro Sermeño Jaime Portillo Guillermo Castro Gualberto Fernández Italy Fabrizio Poletti Comunardo Niccolai Giorgio Puia Mario Bertini Gigi Riva Dino Zoff Angelo Domenghini Giancarlo De Sisti Lido Vieri Sergio Gori Roberto Boninsegna Giuseppe Furino Pierluigi Cera Sweden Ronnie Hellström Hans Selander Björn Nordqvist Roland Grip Tommy Svensson Bo Larsson Leif Eriksson Ove Kindvall Örjan Persson Sven-Gunnar Larsson Claes Cronqvist Krister Kristensson Leif Målberg Thomas Nordahl Ronney Pettersson Jan Olsson Inge Ejderstedt Sten Pålsson Uruguay Julio Montero Castillo Atilio Ancheta Roberto Matosas Ildo Maneiro Rodolfo Sandoval Francisco Cámera Dagoberto Fontes Rúben Bareño Alberto Gómez Oscar Zubía Julio César Cortés Walter Corbo Julio Morales Julio Losada Israel Itzhak Vissoker Menachem Bello Shraga Bar David Primo Itzhak Shum Giora Spiegel Yehoshua Feigenbaum Mordechai Spiegler Rachamim Talbi Yochanan Vollach Eli Ben Rimoz Moshe Romano Roni Shuruk Yechiel Hameiri Yair Nossovsky Zvi Rosen Shmuel Rosenthal George Borba Yehezkel Chazom Moshe Romano David Karako Brazil Brito Piazza Clodoaldo Tostao Rivellino Ado Roberto Baldocchi Caju Dario Ze Maria Leao England Alan Mullery Francis Lee Alex Stepney Tommy Wright Czechoslovakia Ivo Viktor Karol Dobias Ladislav Petras Alexander Horvath Bohumil Vesely Ján Pivarník Anton Flešár Ivan Hrdlička Josef Jurkanin Milan Albrecht Ján Čapkovič Alexander Vencel Romania Radu Nunweiller Vasile Gergely Răducanu Necula Lajos Sătmăreanu Cornel Dinu Emerich Dembrovschi Mircea Lucescu Ion Dumitru Marin Tufan Flavius Domide West Germany Berti Vogts Klaus Fichtel Peter Dietrich Manfred Manglitz Horst Wolter Peru Luis Rubinos Eloy Campos Orlando de la Torre Ramon Mifflin Roberto Challe Hugo Sotil Teofilo Cubillas Oswaldo Ramirez Rubén Correa Pedro González José Fernández Félix Salinas José del Castillo Eladio Reyes Jesus Goyzueta Héctor Chumpitaz Bulgaria Stefan Aladzhov Georgi Popov Hristo Bonev Stoyan Yordanov Asparuh Nikodimov Todor Kolev Bozhidar Grigorov Georgi Kamenski Morocco Moulay Khanousi Mohammed El Filali Boujemaa Benkhrif Mohammed Mahroufi Said Ghandi Ahmed Faras Maouhoub Ghazouani Jalili Fadili Ahmed Alaoui Abdelkader El Khiati Abdelkader Ouaraghli Genaro Sermeño died on 12/23 at the age of 74, he wore shirt number 16 in the 1970 cup and is the ninth to die on that team, out of a total of 23, counting the coach he died as a result of complications from diabetes https://www.elgrafico.com/futbol/Fallecio-el-ex-mundialista-salvadoreno-Genaro-Antonio-Sermeno-20221223-0006.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,343 Posted December 27, 2022 Andrzej Iwan has died aged 63. He was on the Polish Team for the 1978 World Cup and also the 1982 World Cup at which Poland finished third. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 1,966 Posted December 27, 2022 On 25/12/2022 at 13:27, Sinbabad said: Fabian O’Neill, who was in Uruguay’s squad in 2002, is dead : https://www.teledoce.com/telemundo/nacionales/fallecio-a-los-49-anos-el-exfutbolista-de-nacional-y-de-la-seleccion-uruguaya-fabian-oneill/ he was the first member of the 24 team of Uruguay from the 2002 cup to die, he wore the 10 in that cup And the third of the Uruguayan team in the 1993 Copa America (he wore shirt number 19), out of a total of 23 (technicians included) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 1,966 Posted December 28, 2022 On 27/12/2022 at 10:38, Thatcher said: Andrzej Iwan morreu aos 63 anos. Ele estava na seleção polonesa na Copa do Mundo de 1978 e também na Copa do Mundo de 1982, na qual a Polônia terminou em terceiro. wore shirt number 7 in 78 and was the 7th to die among 23 of the selection (technician included), in 82 he wore the 19th and is the 3rd to die among the 23 of that selection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,086 Posted December 29, 2022 The King is gone, Pelé is dead at 82 https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Legende-du-football-le-bresilien-pele-est-mort/1372044 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P94 41 Posted December 29, 2022 UPDATE following Pele's death. Last surviv[or(s)/ing] (and still living) footballers of winning teams between 1958 and 1986: 1958 - Dino Sani, Mario Zagallo, Pele, Moacir, Jose "Mazzola" Altafini, Pepe (5 of 22) 1962 - Pele, Pepe, Mengalvio, Jair da Costa, Amarildo, Mario Zagallo (5 of 22) 1966 - Bobby Charlton, Geoff Hurst, Terry Paine, Ian Callaghan, George Eastham (5 of 22) 1970 - six footballers (Felix, Carlos Alberto Torres, Pele, Fontana, Everaldo, Joel Camargo) are dead so far 1974 - three footballers (Juergen Grabowski, Gerd Mueller & Heinz Flohe) are dead so far 1978 - three footballers (Ruben Galvan, Rene Houseman & Leopoldo Luque) are dead so far 1982 - only two footballers (Gaetano Scirea & Paolo Rossi) are dead so far 1986 - three footballers (Jose Luis Brown, Jose Luis Cuciuffo, Diego Maradona) are dead so far 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,576 Posted December 30, 2022 20 hours ago, P94 said: UPDATE following Pele's death. Last surviv[or(s)/ing] (and still living) footballers of winning teams between 1958 and 1986: 1958 - Dino Sani, Mario Zagallo, Pele, Moacir, Jose "Mazzola" Altafini, Pepe (5 of 22) 1962 - Pele, Pepe, Mengalvio, Jair da Costa, Amarildo, Mario Zagallo (5 of 22) 1966 - Bobby Charlton, Geoff Hurst, Terry Paine, Ian Callaghan, George Eastham (5 of 22) 1970 - six footballers are dead (Felix, Carlos Alberto Torres, Pele, Fontana, Everaldo, Joel Camargo) so far 1974 - three footballers (Juergen Grabowski, Gerd Mueller & Heinz Flohe) are dead so far 1978 - three footballers (Ruben Galvan, Rene Houseman & Leopoldo Luque) are dead so far 1982 - only two footballers (Gaetano Scirea & Paolo Rossi) are dead so far 1986 - three footballers (Jose Luis Brown, Jose Luis Cuciuffo, Diego Maradona) are dead so far Zagallo the only survivor of Brazil’s starting line up in the 1958 final. Him and Amarildo the last two of their line up in 1962. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Immortal 632 Posted December 31, 2022 Horst-Dieter Hottges as some of you might already know, has severe dementia. Earlier this month it seems that his collectibles and memorabilia have been auctioned off according to this German article. Hottges himself looks to have no involvement in this, it's his family who is doing all the work here. I've not actually heard anything recent about a lot of the players in the Germany 1966 squad. I'll try and do an investigation to see the latest status of these players. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,161 Posted December 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, TheSpinosaurus said: Horst-Dieter Hottges as some of you might already know, has severe dementia. Earlier this month it seems that his collectibles and memorabilia have been auctioned off according to this German article. Hottges himself looks to have no involvement in this, it's his family who is doing all the work here. I've not actually heard anything recent about a lot of the players in the Germany 1966 squad. I'll try and do an investigation to see the latest status of these players. It might be worth starting by looking at who did or didn't give a tribute to Pele as they are all contemporaries. Beckenbauer in particular was close to Pele given they both played in the US together at the end of their careers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,086 Posted December 31, 2022 11 hours ago, Deathrace said: It might be worth starting by looking at who did or didn't give a tribute to Pele as they are all contemporaries. Beckenbauer in particular was close to Pele given they both played in the US together at the end of their careers. If I remember correctly, Beckenbauer arrived at New York Cosmos when Pelé left the club. But they did crossed path at the 1966 and 1970 World Cups 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,086 Posted January 4, 2023 On 31/12/2022 at 08:14, TheSpinosaurus said: I've not actually heard anything recent about a lot of the players in the Germany 1966 squad. It’s odd to see that of the starting lines-up of the 1966 final, only Bobby Charlton and Geoff Hurst are alive for England whereas Germany has 7 survivors ! And for the whole squads, only 5 are still standing for England when Germany has 14 ! Even though England and Germany had and still have similar standards of life. The « George Best » syndrome for England maybe ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,161 Posted January 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Sinbabad said: It’s odd to see that of the starting lines-up of the 1966 final, only Bobby Charlton and Geoff Hurst are alive for England whereas Germany has 7 survivors ! And for the whole squads, only 5 are still standing for England when Germany has 14 ! Even though England and Germany had and still have similar standards of life. The « George Best » syndrome for England maybe ? In fairness, the Germans don't have a Tory-run NHS to contend with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Immortal 632 Posted January 6, 2023 After some research this is what I could find on the Germany squad of 1966. Horst-Dieter Hottges - Suffering from severe dementia, requiring nursing home care and all. His football collectibles and memorabilia were auctioned off by his family in December last year Franz Beckenbauer - Couldn't fly to Qatar for the World Cup because of his poor health. Beckenbauer's had a ton of health issues over the last couple of years, including heart surgeries and becoming fully blind in his right eye now. I see good chances that he will reach immortal status before he dies. Wolfgang Overath - All recent pics indicate he's doing well, plus he made a statement on Pele's death. Karl-Heinz Schnellinger - No news in forever. Sigfried Held - Looking well in recent appearances and seems to be somewhat involved in football still, attending Bundesliga matches once in a while. Willi Schulz - 84 years old. Looked well in photos taken of him in 2018 when he was 80, but anything could have happened as Uwe Seeler (also in good shape at the time) was there with him in some of the photos and he's dead now. Wolfgang Weber - No updates in a while, most recent pic I could find of him was from 2016 where he looked okay. Sepp Maier - Still quite actively involved in the world of football and seems to be doing very well. Heinz Hornig - 85 years old. Looks okay in photos in 2018. No news since then. Max Lorenz - Looked well for his age in public appearance in 2021 at a Bundesliga match. Friedel Lutz - Again no news in forever. Bernd Patzke - Still somewhat around in public life and seems to be doing okay. Gunther Bernard - Just like Schnellinger and Lutz, no info or news at all. England pretty much doesn't stand a chance, at least 6 or 7 members of this squad are in okay shape or better. Only Hottges and Beckenbauer I know of who are confirmed to be in poor health. Would be interested if there's any info on Schnellinger, Lutz or Bernard that you can find. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoismakoto 324 Posted January 6, 2023 7 hours ago, TheSpinosaurus said: Would be interested if there's any info on Schnellinger, Lutz or Bernard that you can find. I received a letter from Bernard last September so he's probably fine. Schnellinger is an introvert and recluse as I found an article where he only requested a phone interview and no pictures of him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,161 Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, TheSpinosaurus said: After some research this is what I could find on the Germany squad of 1966. Horst-Dieter Hottges - Suffering from severe dementia, requiring nursing home care and all. His football collectibles and memorabilia were auctioned off by his family in December last year Franz Beckenbauer - Couldn't fly to Qatar for the World Cup because of his poor health. Beckenbauer's had a ton of health issues over the last couple of years, including heart surgeries and becoming fully blind in his right eye now. I see good chances that he will reach immortal status before he dies. Wolfgang Overath - All recent pics indicate he's doing well, plus he made a statement on Pele's death. Karl-Heinz Schnellinger - No news in forever. Sigfried Held - Looking well in recent appearances and seems to be somewhat involved in football still, attending Bundesliga matches once in a while. Willi Schulz - 84 years old. Looked well in photos taken of him in 2018 when he was 80, but anything could have happened as Uwe Seeler (also in good shape at the time) was there with him in some of the photos and he's dead now. Wolfgang Weber - No updates in a while, most recent pic I could find of him was from 2016 where he looked okay. Sepp Maier - Still quite actively involved in the world of football and seems to be doing very well. Heinz Hornig - 85 years old. Looks okay in photos in 2018. No news since then. Max Lorenz - Looked well for his age in public appearance in 2021 at a Bundesliga match. Friedel Lutz - Again no news in forever. Bernd Patzke - Still somewhat around in public life and seems to be doing okay. Gunther Bernard - Just like Schnellinger and Lutz, no info or news at all. England pretty much doesn't stand a chance, at least 6 or 7 members of this squad are in okay shape or better. Only Hottges and Beckenbauer I know of who are confirmed to be in poor health. Would be interested if there's any info on Schnellinger, Lutz or Bernard that you can find. Probably England's only chance of having the last survivor from the actual match barring the remaining Germans meeting up and all dying of food poisoning is if Geoff Hurst makes it into his 90s. Possible but odds against. It's totally down to Geoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,161 Posted January 6, 2023 4 hours ago, whoismakoto said: I received a letter from Bernard last September so he's probably fine. Schnellinger is an introvert as I found an article where he only requested a phone interview and no pictures of him. That first sentence sounded like a line from Blackadder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,086 Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) On 19/12/2022 at 00:00, ThereWillBeDeaths7 said: Or worse, secret pancreatic cancer... Gianluca Vialli, who played for Italy at the 1986 and 1990 World Cup has died from pancréatic cancer : https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/06/football/gianluca-vialli-death-spt-intl/index.html He was one of the nine players who have won the three UEFA competitions : Champions League, Cup winner’s Cup and UEFA Cup As a coach/player, he led Chelsea to the victory, becoming the youngest coach to win a UEFA club competition. However his record was beat by Andre Villas Boas in 2011 with Porto Edited January 6, 2023 by Sinbabad 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,814 Posted January 6, 2023 Gianluca has one c for fuck's sake! And no obvious jokes about the Big C. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 1,966 Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Sinbabad said: Gianlucca Vialli, que jogou pela Itália nas Copas do Mundo de 1986 e 1990, morreu de câncer no pâncreas : https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/06/football/gianluca-vialli-death-spt-intl/index. html Ele foi um dos nove jogadores que venceram as três competições da UEFA: Liga dos Campeões, Taça das Taças e Taça UEFA Como treinador/jogador, levou o Chelsea à vitória, tornando-se no treinador mais jovem a vencer uma competição de clubes da UEFA. No entanto, seu recorde foi batido por André Villas Boas em 2011 com o Porto in the 86 cup he was shirt number 17 and is the 4th to die, in the 90 cup he was shirt number 21 and is the 2nd to die, only the coach had died until today, he was Watford coach in 01-02, the technicians after these years are still alive, captain of the team that won the champions' cup in 96, the only one since 79 who died, top scorer in the Italian Cup in 89, from 90 to now everyone is alive, top scorer in the Italian Serie A in 91, from 89 to here everyone is alive, with the exception of him, the only scorer of the European sub 21 deceased. )Among the players who were part of the best players of the Euro 88 tournament, he is the only one who died, and also the only one who died from the Italian national team of that tournament (coach included) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,434 Posted January 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, diego said: in the 86 cup he was shirt number 17 and is the 4th to die, in the 90 cup he was shirt number 21 and is the 2nd to die, only the coach had died until today, he was Watford coach in 01-02, the technicians after these years are still alive, captain of the team that won the champions' cup in 96, the only one since 79 who died, top scorer in the Italian Cup in 89, from 90 to now everyone is alive, top scorer in the Italian Serie A in 91, from 89 to here everyone is alive, with the exception of him, the only scorer of the European sub 21 deceased. )Among the players who were part of the best players of the Euro 88 tournament, he is the only one who died, and also the only one who died from the Italian national team of that tournament (coach included) On a scale of one to Rain Man, how bad is your autism? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 1,966 Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: On a scale of one to Rain Man, how bad is your autism? I really admire your work here, I love your posts, I'm sad that I'm so annoying to you I didn't understand your question, maybe because I'm not from your country or your continent, I don't know what this scale is about, sorry, if you can provide some source so I can research it, I'd appreciate it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,086 Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, diego said:captain of the team that won the champions' cup in 96, the only one since 79 who died Gaetano Scirea, captain of the Juventus winning side in 1985, died in a car crash in 1989. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites