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I'd say yes but not all of them (i.e. not all young people). An observation based on the fact that my working life puts me in touch with a lot of those who are insatiable readers and fairly wide readers at that - and who genuinely love paper books, preferring them over Kindles and the like.

Sixth Leaderboard 2017: (*=Joker) 1st: JoeyRuss - 317 Points [5/25] (Snuka; *Wetton; Westhuizen; Langhorne; Morano) 2nd: Deathers - 272 Points [4/25] (Westhuizen; Kaufman; Berry; Morano) 3rd: Grim Up North - 259 Points [5/25] (Wetton; Westhuizen; Coward; Skellern; Morano) 4th: Death Impends - 251 Points [7/25] (Youguang; Nakamura; Hale; D. Carrington; Corey; Skellern; Rockefeller) 5th: gcreptile - 248 Points [6/25] (Hollingworth; Youguang; Snuka; Mohren; Rockefeller; Morano) 6th: msc - 235 Points [7/25] (Snuka; B. Simpson; McGill; Wetton; Coward; Skellern; Hewlett) 7th: The Dead Cow - 225 Points [5/25] (Sarstedt; D. Carrington; Westhuizen; Skellern; Morano) 8th: Whoaml - 222 Points [5/25] (Sarstedt; Hale; Westhuizen; Berry; Rockefeller) 9th: Toast - 213 Points [5/25] (Sims; Westhuizen; Sumner; Coward; McGuinness) 10th: Sir Creep - 207 Points [5/25] (Soares; McGiffin; Wetton; Skellern; Morano) 11th: drol - 204 Points [4/25] (Soares; *Snuka; Bossom; Clifton James) 12th: Bibliogryphon - 195 Points [3/25] (Dalyell; McCowen; *Freeman) 13th: RadGuy - 178 Points [4/25] (Snuka; Tyler-Moore; Westhuizen; Morano) 14th: Captain Chorizo - 156 Points [3/25] (Hollingworth; Suzuki; Morano) 15th: JiroemonKimura - 123 Points [4/25] (*Snuka; Cordero; Mohren; Skellern) 16th: Pedro67 - 122 Points [2/25] (Skellern; Walcott) =17th: Rockhopper penguin - 112 Points [2/25] (Westhuizen; Berry) =17th: Shaun Of The Dead - 112 Points [3/25] (Hollingworth; Skellern; Kaufman) 19th: Rotten Ali - 54 Points [2/25] (Hurt; Wetton) 20th: Book - 31 Points [2/25] (Sarstedt; Tyler-Moore) 21st: The Unknown Man - 30 Points [1/25] (Wetton) 22nd: YoungWillz - 28 Points [1/25] (*Snuka) =23rd: ImNotHades - 0 Points [0/25] =23rd: Widows Peak - 0 Points [0/25]

70 years old, who would have thought...

Get the feeling if guests could still post there'd be a "Dead" comment in Sandy Gall's thread right about now.

Graham Allen MP standing down due to "extended periods of ill health". He was looking forward to campaigning a few days ago...

On a few Star Wars sites (yes, I was looking for Last Jedi spoilers), fans are saying that as well as all her drug and alcohol problems, Carrie drank six cans of Coca Cola every day. It seems it was a miracle she lived as long as she did. Leia succumbed to the evil Empire in the end - of the Coca Cola Company.

Having seen this in the By-Election Bingo, I was hoping it bear fruit. I'll be taking part. Just one question to see if I've understood correctly... Say I predict the Lib Dems gain a seat from the Tories. If that comes true, I get 150% of the 2015 majority, if the Tories lose to Labour instead I still get 100% of the 2015 majority and if the Tories hold the seat I get nothing. Correct? Sorry if I'm being dense. On the general election discussion I have thoughts I'll share...but when I'm more awake.

Insert here ovious pun about Sandy Gallin's death.

Any suggestions? How about Clare Grogan? Everybody likes her.

Back to Keith Vaz, I meant! But oh look, he's now got the next PM instead...

RIP. One of the sports nice guys. Such a shame at such a young age.

My wife turned to me during her mother's funeral and hissed, "When we get home later, I'm going to make you fucking pay for this!" For the life of me I couldn't think of what I had done wrong. Maybe it's because I wasn't sharing my popcorn.

Thank you all for your thoughtful wishes. It's so kind. He is still lingering, obviously putting up a fight. I have reached out to other very good friends and ex-relatives I had not spoken to for years and when comparing notes, we all feel something is not quite right here with the situation with his girlfriend. He had told us all that he while he valued this woman he also valued his independence too and he would never make a full commitment to her. They don't even cohabit. I'm afraid it kicked off slightly at the hospital today when a friend visited and questioned why my daughter was not listed as next of kin. The girlfriend stormed out cussing. My daughter has said her goodbyes and left a card for her dad if he ever wakes up. She will return once her dad is able to speak to her. She can't face being stuck in a room surrounded by monitors bleeping and all the time this woman is there making it obvious my daughter is not welcome. A cynical person might think she's after his money and I think they'd be right. More fool him for boasting about a retirement nest egg. I can't see how he has any cash stashed away as he's long since drunk it all. Time will tell though.

George Herbert Walker Bush seems to be in his final days,that looks like it could be a game changer giving an overdue Presidential hit

Well, given I was wrong about Brexit on here, wrong about the last election, and if I could be bothered to go look, probably wrong about the Indy Ref too. In that case... I can't see beyond a Tory landslide. Theresa May is 100% going to be PM after June. There.

Responsible for or guilty of...it's a matter of opinion I'd say

What does he do? Gourmet fried Mars Bars and haggis?

Didn't work, damn.

If true, that leaves former Senator John Warner as the last surviving Liz Taylor hubby.

Updated list of ancient living cabinet members - some ancient french politicians still alive... International Cabinet Members before 1980 USA Johnson Cabinet Attorney General Ramsey Clark (born 1927) - involved in Civil Rights Movement, turned leftist Postmaster General Marvin Watson (born 1924) died Nov 26th, 2017 Secretary of Transportation Alan S. Boyd (born 1922) - earliest surviving cabinet member Nixon Cabinet Secretary of State Henry Kissinger (born 1923) - Nobel Peace Prize Winner Treasury secretary/SoS/OMB/Labor George P. Shultz (born 1920) - political veteran Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird (born 1922) - "Vietnamization" died 16th of November, 2016 Secretary of Commerce Peter "Pete" Peterson (born 1926) - Billionaire, still involved in politics died, March 20th, 2018 Secretary of Commerce Frederick B. Dent (born 1922) Ford Cabinet Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (born 1932) - served under Bush Jr as well Secretary of Agriculture John A. Knebel (born 1936) Secretary of Labor W. J. Usery Jr. (born 1923) died 10th of December 2016 Secretary of Health, Education, Welfare Forrest David Matthews (born 1935) HuD secretary Carla Anderson Hills (born 1934) - small trailblazer, public figure, on corporate boards Secretary of Transportation William Coleman (born 1920) - oldest living former cabinet member died 31st of March 2017 WH chief of staff Richard "Dick" Cheney (born 1941) - also Vice-President Head of CIA George H.W. Bush (born 1924) - also President died, November 30th , 2018 Carter Cabinet: Jimmy Carter Himself (born 1924) Treasury Secretary W. Michael Blumenthal (born 1926) - political veteran, director of Jewish Museum in Berlin Secretary of Defense Harold Brown (born 1927) died January 4th, 2019 Attorney General Benjamin R. Civiletti (born 1935) Secretary of Interior Cecil Andrus (born 1931) - also very popular Governor of Idaho died 24th of August 2017 Secretary of Agriculture Bob Bergland (born 1928), died December 9th, 2018 Secretary of Labor Ray Marshall (born 1928) Secretary of Health, Education, Welfare Joseph A. Califano Jr. (born 1931) - also newspaper columnist HuD Secretary Moon Landrieu (born 1930) - also popular Governor of Louisiana Secretary of Transportation Neil E. Goldschmidt (born 1940) - also Governor of Oregon, lobbyist Secretary of Defense/Energy Charles William Duncan Jr. (born 1926) - Coca Cola president Secretary of Education - Shirley Hufstedler (born 1925) - first SoE, also a trailblazing judge died 30th of March, 2016 Vice President Walter Mondale (born 1928) Chief of Staff Jack H. Watson (born 1938) EPA Chief Douglas M. Costle (born 1939), died Janaury 13th 2019 U.N. ambassador Andrew Young (born 1932) - ally of Martin Luther King, mayor of Atlanta U.N. ambassador Donald McHenry (born 1936) OMB director James T. McIntyre (born 1940) CIA chief Stansfield Turner (born 1923) died January 18rd 2018 National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski (born 1928) - globally known commentator until today died 26th of May 2017 Chairman of Council of Economic Advisors Charles Schultze (born 1924) died 27th of September 2016 ____________________________________________________________________________ West Germany Adenauer IV Walter Scheel (born 1919) - also became federal president died 24th of August, 2016 Kiesinger I Justice, Special Affairs, Chancellery, Post & Communication, Research & Technology - Horst Ehmke (born 1927) died 12th of Marcch 2017 Economic Cooperation - Erhard Eppler (born 1926) - leftist critic died 19th of October 2019 Brandt I Interior Secretary - Hans-Dietrich Genscher (born 1927) - became statesman under Kohl died 31st of March 2016 Education and Science Secretary - Klaus von Dohnanyi (born 1928) - later mayor of Hamburg Brandt II Secretary of the Economy - Hans Friderichs (born 1931) - turned lobbyist and CEO Youth, Family and Health - Katharine Focke (born 1922) died 10th of July 2016 Urban Development & Construction - Hans-Jochen Vogel (born 1926) - became Berlin mayor & party leader of the Social Democrats, also served under Schmidt Schmidt I Urban Development & Construction - Karl Ravens (born 1927) died 8th of September 2017 Education & Science - Helmut Rohde (born 1925) died 16th of April 2016 Schmidt II Interior - Gerhard Baum (born 1932) - civil rights defender Labour and Social Order - Herbert Ehrenberg (born 1926) died Feberuary 20th 2018 Urban Development & Construction - Dieter Haack (born 1934) Research & Technology - Volker Hauff (born 1940) Education & Science - Jürgen Schmude (born 1936) Economic Cooperation - Rainer Offergeld (born 1937) Schmidt III Finance - Manfred Lahnstein (born 1937) - in council of Haifa University, former member of the Trilateral Commission, Consultant for Rothschild Bank and private media pioneer Education & Science, Nutrition, Agriculture and Forestry - Björn Engholm (born 1939) - leader of SPD Youth, Family & Health - Anke Fuchs (born 1937) died October 14th 2019 Research & Technology - Andreas Von Bülow (born 1937) - 9/11 truther _________________________________________________________________________ United Kingdom Heath Ministry 1970-1974 Treasury/Social Services/Industry/Environment - Patrick Jenkin (born 1926) died 20th of December 2016 Agriculture, Fisheries & Food/Northern Ireland/Employment- James Prior (born 1927) died 12th of December 2016 Defense/Energy/Foreign & Commonwealth Affairs - Lord Carrington (born 1919) - NATO head & leader of Falklands War died July 9th 2018 Wilson Cabinet 1974-1976 Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection - Shirley Williams (born 1930) - also served under Callaghan, became Professor at Harvard Wales - John Morris (born 1931) Callaghan Cabinet 1976-1979 Foreign Secretary David Owen (born 1938) - led talks on Former Yugoslavia SoS for Prices and Consumer Protection Roy Hattersley (born 1932) SoS for Transport William Rodgers (born 1928) First Thatcher ministry (1979-1983) SoS for Energy/Transport David Howell (born 1936) SoS for Trade/Defence John Nott (born 1932) - involuntarily involved in Falklands' War SoS for Wales Nicholas Edwards (born 1934) SoS for Employment/Trade & Industry Norman Tebbitt (born 1931) Financial Secretary to the Treasury, SoS Energy, Chancellor of the Exchequer Nigel Lawson (born 1932) - global warming skeptic SoS of Environment/First SoS/Defence Michael Heseltine (born 1933) SoS for Health & Social Services Norman Fowler/Employment/Transport/Minister of Transport Norman Fowler (born 1938) SoS of Environment/Northern Ireland/Defence/Employment/Transport Tom King (born 1933) ________________________________________________________________________________________ France Gouvernement Debré 1959-1962 Agriculture - Edgard Pisani (born 1918) - also European commissioner of development died 20th of June 2016 Economy & Finance Valéry Giscard D'Estaing (born 1926) - later president Pompidou V 1967-1968 Post and Telecommunication/Information Yves Guéna (born 1922) died 3rd of March 2016 Industry/ later Justice - Albin Chalandon (born 1920) - director of Elf Aquitaine (1977-1983) Gouvernement Chaban-Delmas 1969-1972 Environment - Robert Poujade (born 1928) Messmer I 1972/73 Post and Telecommunication/Relationship to Parliament - Hubert Germain (born 1920) Agriculture and Rural Development Jacques Chirac (born 1932) - became president Chirac I 1974-1976 Economy and Finance/Equipment Jean-Pierre Fourcade (born 1929) Labour/Reforms Michel Durafour (born 1920) - also a writer under alibi died 27th of July Health - Simone Veil (born 1927) - Holocaust survivor, president of European Parliament 1998-2007, legalized abortion in France died 30th of June 2017 Agriculture/Interior Christian Bonnet (born 1921) Barre II 1977/78 Agriculture/later Justice Pierre Méhaignerie (born 1939) Barre III 1978-81 Youth, Sports/Labour/ of State/Agriculture & Rural development Jean-Pierre Soisson (born 1934) Women's Issues Monique Pelletier (born 1926) Transportation Daniel Hoeffel (born 1929) A couple of those were news to me, including the death of Helmut Rohde.

It's almost as if they couldn't wait to be rid of him...

Alive a month ago. Also, even if he died in the same week the Queen abdicated while an asteroid hit Mexico and Elvis rode a T-Rex down the Strand, he'd still get a Herald obit at the very least.

Probably you.