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Here is your complete TCD list for 2023, as voted for by the forum. 1. Jimmy Carter 1807 (8th, 2nd) 2. Rolf Harris 1600 (NEW) 3. Bob Barker 1410 (5th, 8th) 4. Henry Kissinger 1285 (4th, 13th) 5. George Alagiah 1246 (5th, 7th) 6. Joanne Woodward 1124 (6th, 20th) 7. Glynis Johns 1084 (7th, 9th) 8. Roberta Flack 1037 (NEW) 9. James Whale 963 (3rd, 14th) 10. Frank Field 988 (2nd, 3rd) 11. Gianluca Vialli 957 (NEW) 12. Harry Belafonte 916 (3rd, 17th) 13. Rosalynn Carter 915 (5th, 27th) 14. Tony Bennett 890 (2nd, 22nd) 15. Jonnie Irwin 874 (NEW) 16. Linda Nolan 799 (4th, 15th) 17. Eva Marie Saint 769 (3rd, -) 18. June Spencer 736 (2nd, -) 19. Dick van Dyke 681 (2nd, 39th) 20. Ruth Buzzi 641 (NEW) 21. Nigel Starmer Smith 623 (NEW) 22. Andy Taylor 614 (NEW) 23. Mel Brooks 573 (NEW) 24. Constantine II 567 (NEW) 25. Milan Kundera 566 (NEW) 26. Ted Kaczyinski 560 (NEW) 27. Yoko Ono 552 (4th, 28th) 28. Sandra Day O’Connor 544 (NEW) 29. Bobby Charlton 536 (2nd, 36th) 30. Jean marie le pen 535 (NEW) 31. Rob Burrow 534 (NEW) 32. Shannen Doherty 528 (3rd, 21st) 33. Giorgio Napolitano 526 (NEW) 34. Norman Tebbit 516 (2nd, 32nd) 35. Jacques Delors 511 (2nd, 46th) 36. David Attenborough 499 (NEW) 37. Noam Chomsky 488 (2nd, -) 38. Ryuichi Sakamoto 486 (NEW) 39. Marianne Faithfull 477 (NEW) 40. Sonny Rollins 457 (NEW) 41. Stanley Baxter 448 (NEW) 42. Randy Jackson 448 (NEW) 43. Norman Lear 443 (2nd, 40th) 44. James Earl Jones 409 (NEW) 45. Topol 408 (NEW) 46. Francoise Hardy 407 (2nd, 33rd) 47. James Watson 397 (2nd, 29th) 48. Vera Miles 395 (NEW) 49. Duke of Kent 392 (NEW) 50. David Graham 391 (2nd, 47th)

While I quite understand and support keeping him on the list, does he really deserve the coveted number one position? He's far healthier than half the people on the list.

Shame they didn't pick Glynis Johns or Eva Marie Saint who are much older equally famous and no longer active.

Great choice, I will enjoy Sir Creep's coffee a lot.

Finally the year is over and this game too... After so many emotions with a big start by @gcreptile who sadly keeps with 10 hits, we got a different winner as what expected!!! Altough was a tie between @drol and @Great Uncle Bulgaria I had to apply rule 7 (more unique picks), what made it as the winner to @Great Uncle Bulgaria, even without give a hit for controversial pick Asta Hasse... CONGRATULATIONS SO MUCH!!! And CONGRATS all who participated in this game, BEST WISHES FOR ALL AND HAPPY NEW YEAR 2023!!!

I think some of you over-estimate the amount of research and preparation put into this by the Committee.

The drops: David Attenborough Emperor Akihito Ted Kaczynski James Whale Denis Law Noam Chomsky David Crosby Michael Gambon Douglas Hurd Silvio Berlusconi Linda Ronstadt

I'd like to thank @paddyfool and @YoungWillz for the chance to run this game. I look forward to having the entries of the creator and past champs for 2023. I am your host, @Evil Grimace. As per protocol, I will not enter a team. I am using @paddyfool's rules verbatim as I've used them in a pool before, they work well and I know the system. Please submit a list of names from this year's deathlist to predict who on the list is actually going to die this year. Points will be allocated as follows: +1 per death correctly predicted -1 per death incorrectly predicted +4 if the number of deaths you predict matches the actual number of deaths, i.e. the number of names in your list matches the actual number of deaths +2 if you only miss the correct total number of deaths by 1 -2 if you miss the total number of deaths by more than 5 +1 bonus for a "unique" correct prediction (predicted by no other punter here) +1 bonus if you pick the bookie's favourite (single most popular guess in this contest) and they are a hit. -1 penalty if you pick the bookie's favourite and they are a miss. A further +1 bonus for every 3rd correctly predicted death (+1 on 3rd, 6th, 9th etc) You may if you wish select one entry as a joker. We are changing the rules for the Joker this year: you get an additional +2 if correct, and an additional -2 if incorrect; no more multiplication. In the event of a tie on points, the dead-lock (see what I did there) will be broken by the following: 1) Whichever team had the most hits 2) If unbroken by 1, whichever team was closest in their guess of predicted deaths for the year 3) If unbroken by 1 and 2, whichever team was submitted first. Entries in by January 10th on/before 23:59, please, either by pm or by posting here. Any deaths before then will still score for any lists entered at least 24 hours before the death and will still count towards the total deaths for the year. Good luck.

Opinions. 1. DVD - Still a bad pick in my opinion. Looks thin but I think he could live another year or two. Yawn. 2. Henry Kissinger - slowly getting frailer and nobody is actually immortal. Good pick. 3. Bob Barker - perennial coffin tease, of course he's kept, but good pick anyways. 4. Alan Greenspan - "Hasn't been seen in a while"-pick. Not good or bad. 5. Nigel Starmer-Smith - Suprised he's still alive, I doubt he'll live to 2024. Good pick. 6. Jimmy Carter - Of course he's kept, good pick. 7. Tony Bennett - Alzheimer's and 96. Good pick. 8. Dick Cheney - David Crosby type. Mostly bad pick. 9. Harry Belafonte - Very frail in 2021 and as far as I know failed to make an appearance this year. Good pick. 10. Mel Brooks - Not as frail as thought apparently. Mostly bad pick. 11. Jacques Delors - Said to have been ill or very frail for ages and I have no idea how he's still alive. Good pick. 12. Bobby Charlton - Good-ish pick. 13. Robert Wagner - Rumored very ill and the rumors seem true. Good to see him on the list. 14. Norman Tebbit - either ill or just quite frail, not really sure. Good-ish pick. 15. Rosalynn Carter - Increasingly frail and looking very decrepit. Good pick. 16. Sandy Gall - Is he ill? 17. Joanne Woodward - Good to see her back on the list. Late stage dementia and suprised she's still alive. 18. Ethel Kennedy - Decrepit but I've not heard that she'd be ill. 50/50, could live another few years. 19. Desmond Morris - See Sandy Gall. 20. Stanley Baxter - No idea on his condition. 21. Joss Ackland - Looked ancient the last 30 years and looked half dead in that 2020 video. Good pick. 22. Jean-Marie Le Pen - Looking more and more frail, seemingly wheelchairbound now and usually strokes leave some effects on nonagenarians. Mostly good pick. 23. Milan Kundera - Very ill. Good pick and suprised he isn't dead already. 24. Cleo Laine - (Still) No idea on her health 25. Alan Alda - Too early. Bad pick. 26. Prunella Scales - Boringly healthy physically. 50/50 27. Yoko Ono - Ill according to forum posters and reportedly in 24-hour care. Good pick. 28. Norman Lear - Well, 100 years old. However seemingly healthy. Mostly good pick. 29. Burt Bacharach - Looked very frail in those recent pictures and had a red eye. Good pick. 30. Marianne Faithfull - On oxygen after covid fucked up her lungs and in 24/7 care, right? That's what I heard the last time. Good pick. 31. Angie Dickinson - Not sure. 32. Robert Duvall - Still active. Bad pick. 33. Imelda Marcos - Fat, 93, prior health issues. Well enough to stand at her son's presidential inauguration. 50/50, but beware of Filipino hitmen. 34. General Pervez Musharraf - wheelchairbound in early 2022, very ill suffering from cardiac amyloidosis. I expect him to die, mostly good pick. 35. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei - Not really sure what to think about this, but I expected it'd be either him or Mad Vlad on the list. 50/50 36. Pete Murray - Ancient and looks ancient, good pick. 37. Bob Newhart - People say he's frail but he's always looked thin. Boring pick, is he ill? 38. Rolf Harris - Good and expected pick. 39. Ryuichi Sakamoto - Terminally ill, good pick. 40. Willie Nelson - Ill for a longer time and somehow survived a severe bout of covid last year. Also lost his sister last year and has been singing about death for around ten years now. He's certainly prepared for it. Good pick. 41. Dennis Skinner - Because the forum takes so long to load I can't search info on his health. But I recall he's not the most ill out of the perennially ill British politicians in their 90s? 50/50 42. Nigel Lawson - Lawson was one of the more ill perennially ill British politicians with Hurd if I remember correctly. Good pick. 43. Michael Parkinson - Has been ill before, but I don't have enough knowledge on this one to judge if he's a good pick or not. Skipping. 44. Sonny Rollins - Pulmonary fibrosis for twice the average life expectancy, plus he's 92. Good pick, how the hell is he still alive? 45. Mohamed Al-Fayed - Ill with dementia or something mysterious? Good-ish pick. 46. Hal Linden - Still active. Bad pick. 47. Linda Nolan - Good pick? At this point I don't know anymore, she's been very ill for a long time. 48. Tina Turner - Long health history and lost his son in 2022. Good pick. 49. Andy Taylor - Some say too early. Personally, not sure. Skipping. 50. Shane Macgowan - Looked ghastly in those pictures taken after his recent hospitalisation. However, young. Good-ish pick. The drops: 1. Attenborough - old, but not frail. Understandable. 2. Akihito - Good drop. I'd bet the goby researcher will live a few more years. 3. Ted Kaczynski - He said he's ill, but I am still not sure if he's actually ill or not. 50/50 4. James Whale - Terminally ill, should not have been dropped. 5. Denis Law - Not sure. 6. Noam Chomsky - I think he could end up being one of those picks that are dropped but survive another year or two. We don't actually know if he's ill with anything, do we? 7. David Crosby - Good drop. Doesn't seem too ill despite his advanced health history. 8. Michael Gambon - Not that old and nothing but dementia rumors. Good drop. 9. Douglas Hurd - supposed to be very frail and people are suprised he's still alive. BAD drop. 10. Silvio Berlusconi - Good drop. Put him back when he's actually ill. 11. Linda Ronstadt - Not sure.

Kissenger , Barker, J Carter ,Harris, Lear and Sakamoto would have all been better picks at the Number 1 spot. Whale would have also been good at number 1 but the committee had other ideas.

Dropping Whale is just plain stupidity on the committees part.After two big names just dying after being taken off the list you would have thought the committee would be more cautious.Not including Vialli is also a very unwise move IMHO. No Alagiah seems incredibly risky also. Some comparatively silly names kept on such as Cheney considering who has been dropped.

First gut feeling - mediocre tbh.

I really thought William Russell might turn up this year. Like others, I don’t think this is the year for Cheney, Duvall or Alda. If we need more Hollywood legends, I think Michael Caine deserves more traction.

I swear typing "very old famous people" into Google is how they get 70% of their picks.

Well, at least Woodward is back on there.

Ditto. DVD is extremely healthy, Kissinger is probably a better 1st place pick.

I swear the committee is drunk or something because this is awful

Well this list is shit already with dyke at #1 again.

I bet he wasn't as good as when I saw Madonna there in 2012.

Here are my teams.Hoping they went through as haven't got a confirmation email bit I get the hosts must be snowed under at the moment. Shaun of the Dead 69 1)Jonnie Irwin (Joker) 2)George Alagiah 3)Stan Bowles 4)Roberta Flack 5)James Whale 6)Simon Cowell (Wildlife SOS) 7)Randy Jackson (American Idol) 8)Gianluca Vialli 9)Rob Burrow 10)Rolf Harris 11)Andy Taylor 12)Steve McMichael 13) Linda Nolan 14)Shane MacGowan 15)Derek Draper 16)Eugenia Cooney 17)David J Linden (Replacing Don West) 18)John Pender (Replacing Pope Benedict) 19)Nigel Starmer_Smith 20)Ryuichi Sakamoto Theme: Slippery Soap ( Soap actors and actresses) 1)Kate Keltie (Joker) 2)Johnny Ruffo 3)Thelma Barlow 4)Eileen Derbyshire 5)Prunella Scales 6)Meg Johnson 7)Tom Oliver 8)Patricia Greene 9)Kenneth Cope 10)Julie Goodyear 11)Helen Fraser 12)Jane Rossington 13)Janey Godley 14)Judy Bennett 15)Bill Steel 16)Malcolm Hebden 17)Joel Mcllroy 18)Daniella Westbrook 19)Bruce Jones 20) Shannen Doherty Theme Team 2: No more expenses (UK MPs and or members of the Lords ) 1)Frank Field (Joker) 2)Dennis Skinner 3)Nigel Lawson 4)Douglas Hurd 5)Norman Tebbit 6) John Nott 7)Harry Greenway 8)Terence Higgins 9)Winnie Ewing 10)Doug Hoyle 11)Bill Rodgers 12)Tom King 13)Norman Fowler 14)Robert Alexander Lindsay 15)Glenys Kinnock 16)Trixie Gardner 17)Tony Worthington 18)Roy Hattersley 19)John Morris 20)Eileen Paisley

25th Milan Kundera NEW 566 points Stunningly Popular Novelist 24th Constantine II NEW 567 points Frailer than the QE2 (as she is now) 23rd Mel Brooks NEW 573 points Comedy Legend 22nd Andy Taylor NEW 614 points Is there something he should know? 21st Nigel Starmer-Smith NEW 623 points Rugby Commentator 20th Ruth Buzzi NEW 641 points Funny Girl 19th Dick Van Dyke 2nd appearance, 39th last year 681 points Professional Cockney 18th June Spencer 2nd appearance, returnee 736 points Archers Legend 17th Eva Marie Saint 3rd appearance, returnee 769 points Vertigo Star 16th Linda Nolan 4th appearance, 15th last year 799 points Nolan Sister 15th Jonnie Irwin NEW 874 points Man off the Telly 14th Tony Bennett 2nd appearance, 22nd last year 890 points Crooner 13th Rosalynn Carter 5th appearance, 27th last year 915 points Peanut Farmer’s Wife 12th Harry Belafonte 3rd appearance, 17th last year 916 points Singer/Activist 11th Gianluca Vialli NEW 957 points Italy Legend

I don’t get it. Where are Whale, Chirac, Vialli, Alagiah, Minnelli, Farrakhan. They seem quite tired of doing it, it seems…

He should be atleast down in the 20’s

Bit of a boring Top 10. I like that they brought Woodward, Nelson, Nolan and Ono back. Harris, Sakamoto and Rollins are decent additions. I'm surprised Roberta Flack wasn't included. Whale, Kaczynski and Hurd are risky drops, I also think Attenborough should've been kept. Pleased they dropped Akihito, but Cheney making it again is a bit baffling.

Official list 1. Jimmy Carter 1807 (8th, 2nd) 2. Rolf Harris 1600 (NEW) 3. Bob Barker 1410 (5th, 8th) 4. Henry Kissinger 1285 (4th, 13th) 5. George Alagiah 1246 (5th, 7th) 6. Joanne Woodward 1124 (6th, 20th) 7. Glynis Johns 1084 (7th, 9th) 8. Roberta Flack 1037 (NEW) 9. James Whale 963 (3rd, 14th) 10. Frank Field 988 (2nd, 3rd) 11. Gianluca Vialli 957 (NEW) 12. Harry Belafonte 916 (3rd, 17th) 13. Rosalynn Carter 915 (5th, 27th) 14. Tony Bennett 890 (2nd, 22nd) 15. Jonnie Irwin 874 (NEW) 16. Linda Nolan 799 (4th, 15th) 17. Eva Marie Saint 769 (3rd, -) 18. June Spencer 736 (2nd, -) 19. Dick van Dyke 681 (2nd, 39th) 20. Ruth Buzzi 641 (NEW) 21. Nigel Starmer Smith 623 (NEW) 22. Andy Taylor 614 (NEW) 23. Mel Brooks 573 (NEW) 24. Constantine II 567 (NEW) 25. Milan Kundera 566 (NEW) 26. Ted Kaczyinski 560 (NEW) 27. Yoko Ono 552 (4th, 28th) 28. Sandra Day O’Connor 544 (NEW) 29. Bobby Charlton 536 (2nd, 36th) 30. Jean marie le pen 535 (NEW) 31. Rob Burrow 534 (NEW) 32. Shannen Doherty 528 (3rd, 21st) 33. Giorgio Napolitano 526 (NEW) 34. Norman Tebbit 516 (2nd, 32nd) 35. Jacques Delors 511 (2nd, 46th) 36. David Attenborough 499 (NEW) 37. Noam Chomsky 488 (2nd, -) 38. Ryuichi Sakamoto 486 (NEW) 39. Marianne Faithfull 477 (NEW) 40. Sonny Rollins 457 (NEW) 41. Stanley Baxter 448 (NEW) 42. Randy Jackson 448 (NEW) 43. Norman Lear 443 (2nd, 40th) 44. James Earl Jones 409 (NEW) 45. Topol 408 (NEW) 46. Francoise Hardy 407 (2nd, 33rd) 47. James Watson 397 (2nd, 29th) 48. Vera Miles 395 (NEW) 49. Duke of Kent 392 (NEW) 50. David Graham 391 (2nd, 47th) "I'm an everpresent!" "I was scheduled to be on this list but I forgot to take me immortality tablets! Ding gone!"