dimreaper 700 Posted November 29, 2021 Ray Illingworth, cricketer and former England captain, is now battling advanced esophageal cancer and wants the right to end his life. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted November 29, 2021 Maybe one for the 2022 list. He is famous enough here in England. Not a cert as the treatment might well keep him going into 2023. But 89 and with cancer makes him a decent bet at least. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,491 Posted November 29, 2021 My knowledge of cricket is very limited, however, former Ashes winning captain = DL front pager, no? They love their cricket like I love a good episode of Dr Who. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted November 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, msc said: My knowledge of cricket is very limited, however, former Ashes winning captain = DL front pager, no? They love their cricket like I love a good episode of Dr Who. I would say he is famous enough. Through he says the cancer has already shrunk from 8cm to 2cm and he still has two more doses of treatment to go. And once you his age (90 next June) cancer often takes a long time to come back anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted November 29, 2021 Will 100% get an QO on the BBC, Guardian, Times, Telegraph etc.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,751 Posted November 29, 2021 Great Test captain and pretty good Test and First Class career - if Martin Crowe can be top of the DL then no issues at all with RI being in top 10. Also, I learn from Wiki, the oldest person alive to have played a One Day International having played in the very first in 1971. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted November 29, 2021 Although clearly not in good shape the articles suggest he is more campaigning for assisted dying due to his late wife's experience of cancer rather than his own plus the tumour has shrunk from 8 centimetres to 2 centimetres. He does state though that he doesn't want the last 12 months that his wife has so poorly and old undoubtedly but at death's door right now, perhaps not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,122 Posted November 29, 2021 Maybe put him in at number 50? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,751 Posted November 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, Paul Bearer said: Maybe put him in at number 50? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Watcher 319 Posted November 30, 2021 Illingworth is the last survivor from the very first edition of Question of Sport. However, one report last night stated that he was the last survivor of the very first cricket one-day international in 1971 - totally implausible that the other 21 players had all died in the last 50 years!! Illingworth & Boycott (also had cancer issues) are the last 2 survivors of the Yorkshire Four - Close, Trueman, Boycott & Illingworth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted November 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Watcher said: Illingworth is the last survivor from the very first edition of Question of Sport. However, one report last night stated that he was the last survivor of the very first cricket one-day international in 1971 - totally implausible that the other 21 players had all died in the last 50 years!! Illingworth & Boycott (also had cancer issues) are the last 2 survivors of the Yorkshire Four - Close, Trueman, Boycott & Illingworth. He is not the only one left. Boycott played in that match for start. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Watcher 319 Posted November 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: He is not the only one left. Boycott played in that match for start. I suspect there are more alive than deceased from that match as Knott & Underwood are both still alive & probably played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted November 30, 2021 From the first One Day International played on 5 January 1971 Australia v England. Survivors as of 30 November 2021 are: England - Geoff Boycott, Keith Fletcher, Ray Illingworth, Alan Knott, John Snow, Ken Shuttleworth, Peter Lever 7/11 Australia - Bill Lawry, Keith Stackpole, Ian Chappell, Doug Walters, Ian Redpath, Greg Chappell, Rodney Marsh, Graham McKenzie, Alan Connolly, Alan Thompson 10/11 So a lot of survivors. The only Australian to pass away is Ashley Mallett who only died a few months ago. Wonder who will be the last one standing. Not Illingworth or Boycott that's for certain. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,419 Posted December 25, 2021 Dead aged 89. Time to scratch him off your shortlists. Obituaries: The Sun, BBC, The Guardian, Daily Mirror, Daily Mail, Daily Star p.s. a very Happy Christmas to you all 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 8,011 Posted December 25, 2021 Was on my DDP subs bench so a bit of a bullet dodged! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,645 Posted December 25, 2021 obviously couldn’t face the Boxing Day test! I’d imagine a few subs coming in to play now. I don’t think I picked him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,994 Posted December 25, 2021 Party Pooper Bonus in the DDP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,170 Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, gcreptile said: Party Pooper Bonus in the DDP. Are we sure he died today? I haven't seen the date of death mentioned. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exu 250 Posted December 25, 2021 I had him at the top of my list as I did John Edrich a year ago. Cricketers have a habit of early dismissals, but that's par for the course given the current state of the England team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted December 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Exu said: I had him at the top of my list as I did John Edrich a year ago. Cricketers have a habit of early dismissals, but that's par for the course given the current state of the England team In fairness, it's hard to call dying at 89 "an early dismissal". I'd say it's a life well-lived as the man himself acknowledged last month. It sounded like he was ready to go. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,994 Posted December 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Toast said: Are we sure he died today? I haven't seen the date of death mentioned. Times and Telegraph obits are up already, and while they don't mention a date, as long as there is no evidence of the contrary, I'll go with the consensus. But maybe something new will come up in the next 2 days until I return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,189 Posted December 25, 2021 Replaced Illingworth with British author Jack Higgins for my 2022 shadowlist. Illingworth was sure to be on the 2022 DL, so maybe Higgins or Len Deighton would be good as a replacement on there too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted December 25, 2021 Maybe worth adding former Yorkshire team member Geoffrey Boycott onto the List to make up for Illingworth's absence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,703 Posted December 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Deathrace said: Maybe worth adding former Yorkshire team member Geoffrey Boycott onto the List to make up for Illingworth's absence? Still active and giving interviews etc. There are much stronger candidates surely? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,491 Posted December 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Still active and giving interviews etc. There are much stronger candidates surely? Very weis comment, imo. Ahem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites