time 8,599 Posted May 29 36 minutes ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said: Don't get this one at all. How does finishing 2nd bottom of and getting relegated from the PL (even finishing below Luton who had a far worse squad) qualify you for one of the biggest jobs in European club football? Valid question. On the other hand, why should it automatically disqualify you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Uncle Bulgaria 1,282 Posted May 30 14 hours ago, time said: Valid question. On the other hand, why should it automatically disqualify you? Because some of the characteristics displayed during last season (unwillingness to change a system that was clearly not working, inability to sort out a sieve-like defence, failure to replace a goalkeeper who was not up to standard until too late in the day) are not what you look for in a top manager. Maybe he will do fairly well with a much better squad that will be the best in the league and able to play the way he wants to. If you'd put Pep in charge of last season's Sheffield United squad that would have no doubt ended the same way as Heckingbottom/Wilder's tenure too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,599 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said: Because some of the characteristics displayed during last season (unwillingness to change a system that was clearly not working, inability to sort out a sieve-like defence, failure to replace a goalkeeper who was not up to standard until too late in the day) are not what you look for in a top manager. Maybe he will do fairly well with a much better squad that will be the best in the league and able to play the way he wants to. If you'd put Pep in charge of last season's Sheffield United squad that would have no doubt ended the same way as Heckingbottom/Wilder's tenure too. If reports are to be believed Kompany was the 8th choice for the position, so my assumption is that by this time Bayern were looking for reasons why they should hire him, rather than reasons they shouldn't. I suspect it was Burnley's performance in 2022-23 season, plus the Guardiola influence, that got him the job more than anything. Still, this time next year we'll see if their gamble paid off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted May 30 Keeping the seat for Klopp, I reckon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,519 Posted May 30 Kompany at Bayern and Maresca at Chelsea are both appointments with the great modern delusion: that somehow working with Guardiola bestows magical managerial powers upon you. It's a bit like when any plodder that played for Ferguson was being given a Prem touchline gig in the early 2000s. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted May 30 1 hour ago, Spade_Cooley said: Kompany at Bayern and Maresca at Chelsea are both appointments with the great modern delusion: that somehow working with Guardiola bestows magical managerial powers upon you. It's a bit like when any plodder that played for Ferguson was being given a Prem touchline gig in the early 2000s. That delusion contiunes to this day with the repeated appointment of Wayne Rooney to management positions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,599 Posted May 30 2 hours ago, Spade_Cooley said: Kompany at Bayern and Maresca at Chelsea are both appointments with the great modern delusion: that somehow working with Guardiola bestows magical managerial powers upon you. It's a bit like when any plodder that played for Ferguson was being given a Prem touchline gig in the early 2000s. Remember back when Ferguson was Manchester United manager, a very vocal group were insistent that the success was all down to (youth team then assistant manager) Brian Kidd? Went to Blackburn and promptly got them relegated. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 30 6 hours ago, time said: Remember back when Ferguson was Manchester United manager, a very vocal group were insistent that the success was all down to (youth team then assistant manager) Brian Kidd? Went to Blackburn and promptly got them relegated. Oh I remember... we were relegated at home with a draw against United and Fergie said in his Sky interview afterwards that we had one more game to go and if we got a result you never know and the interviewer informed him that we were already relegated with the draw and Fergie played dumb. Kidd staggered through to about November, when we were stuck in mid-table in the second tier and was put out of his misery. Long-time caretaker Tony Parkes took over for the rest of the season and we hired Graeme Souness just before the end of the season. Bounced straight back the next season. Few years later, we tried the same trick again with Paul Ince and that went equally badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,967 Posted May 31 On 30/05/2024 at 13:01, Spade_Cooley said: Kompany at Bayern and Maresca at Chelsea are both appointments with the great modern delusion: that somehow working with Guardiola bestows magical managerial powers upon you. It's a bit like when any plodder that played for Ferguson was being given a Prem touchline gig in the early 2000s. I wonder which manager will be fired first, Kompany or Hansi Flick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted June 3 So, today Enzo Maresca's slightly bizarre promotion from Championship Leicester to Europa Conference League Chelsea has been confirmed. In my eyes it will all end in tears but we'll see. Anyway, I'm not complaining as it bags me a point! And also @ladyfiona and @MariNisia, who moves up to halfway complete! Poor Commtech now the only one not quite at 50%, but 6 points separates the field. Updated Scoreboard Great Uncle Bulgaria - 15 Sly Ronnie - 14 Wannamaker, Rover and Out - 12 Diego, Lady Fiona - 11 MariNisia, Bibliogryphon, Maryportfuncity, Buffalo Phil - 10 Commtech Sio Bibble - 9 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,029 Posted June 3 1 hour ago, RoverAndOut said: Poor Commtech now the only one not quite at 50%, but 6 points separates the field. Even if I don't get anymore, as someone who has probably not watch more than a dozen football games in my life, I'm proud of myself. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted June 4 6 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: So, today Enzo Maresca's slightly bizarre promotion from Championship Leicester to Europa Conference League Chelsea has been confirmed. In my eyes it will all end in tears but we'll see. There is no way he is seeing out all five years of that contract. Five months maybe. There may be a knock on effect depending on who Leicester appoint. Michael Carrick's name has been mentioned (one of nearly a dozen names I have seen but the only one on my team) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted June 4 5 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: There is no way he is seeing out all five years of that contract. Five months maybe. There may be a knock on effect depending on who Leicester appoint. Michael Carrick's name has been mentioned (one of nearly a dozen names I have seen but the only one on my team) I believe he's just signed an extension at Middlesbrough, which would be odd if he knew the interest from Leicester... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: I believe he's just signed an extension at Middlesbrough, which would be odd if he knew the interest from Leicester... I didn't think it was a realistic choice just one that would score me points 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted June 4 3 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: I didn't think it was a realistic choice just one that would score me points Steve Cooper perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted June 4 43 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Steve Cooper perhaps? Last I heard was Van Nistelrooy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted June 8 1. Gareth Southgate. 2. Not sure I know that many more football managers. Whoever is at ManU: Erik Ten-Shun or summat. Yes yes, I know I know nothing about football and also suspect that the National Team is outside the rules. But the little football I do watch? I suddenly remember why I don't watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,646 Posted June 18 New tour dates - anyone wanna take a bet on when they're searching for new talent in the dug out? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted June 18 3 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: 10th November After a humbling at the King Power, Biblio? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted June 18 He'll be alright until February I reckon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,725 Posted June 18 December 16th surely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,573 Posted June 20 Graham Coughlan has left Newport County Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted June 20 6 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: Graham Coughlan has left Newport County Not a hit in this game. On 04/06/2024 at 06:05, Bibliogryphon said: There is no way he is seeing out all five years of that contract. Five months maybe. There may be a knock on effect depending on who Leicester appoint. Michael Carrick's name has been mentioned (one of nearly a dozen names I have seen but the only one on my team) On 04/06/2024 at 13:46, RoverAndOut said: Steve Cooper perhaps? However, if the game was "predict who clubs will appoint" I'd have had a hit today. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites