Octopus of Odstock 2,193 Posted September 28 2 hours ago, Death Impends said: Okay, I have followed OoO's suggestion of pursuing much slimmer roundups rather than full fledged obits. This is definitely far more feasible. Maybe an hour or two whereas the obits were much more. As always let me know if LotL/M names slipped by... I'll try to be more on top of things now that I'm making the obit side of things less stressful. I guess this makes Scott Thorson my last big headliner obit. Glad you've found the balance between carrying on the good work and still having a life. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hemlock 742 Posted September 29 Kris Kristofferson QO: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/kris-kristofferson-ap-los-angeles-rhodes-hawaii-b2620990.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,963 Posted September 30 Dikembe Mutombo QO - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nba/article-13907833/Dikembe-Mutombo-dead-58-brain-cancer-NBA.html Takes It's A Grim World After All to the lead if I twigged correctly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,517 Posted September 30 Would be kind of fitting if the one team that didn't pick Carter is the team that wins the DDP. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,400 Posted September 30 26 minutes ago, Death Impends said: Dikembe Mutombo QO - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nba/article-13907833/Dikembe-Mutombo-dead-58-brain-cancer-NBA.html Takes It's A Grim World After All to the lead if I twigged correctly. I think amongst that top grouping of 5 or so I also have Noam Chomsky and Theo Burrell as uniques. Also have Janey Godley but not sure she’s nailed on for this year. All to play for! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted September 30 2 hours ago, Thatcher said: I think amongst that top grouping of 5 or so I also have Noam Chomsky and Theo Burrell as uniques. Also have Janey Godley but not sure she’s nailed on for this year. All to play for! In last years stat crunching (yes, I know, there's no way to make it sound un-nerdy) Burrell's prognosis seemed likely to take her into 2025 but not 2026, so if she does go before January 1st that'd be a deserved title winning hit imo. Unless of course the only 2 top 20 hits left are George Beattie and PJ Hammond (20 unique points for Pan Breed)! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,193 Posted October 1 13 hours ago, Thatcher said: I think amongst that top grouping of 5 or so I also have Noam Chomsky and Theo Burrell as uniques. Also have Janey Godley but not sure she’s nailed on for this year. All to play for! Realistically, I'm going to need a combination of Kamolvisit and Patrick Murray to win, considering the joint picks of the top 4. That, or a Daniel o'Donnell weepie of a 'tough year' to the Daily Mail where he mentions K Cavanagh.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,517 Posted October 1 Carter would put me in the lead but I'm almost certainly going to need more points because I don't have Godley. Kamolvisit going (95% chance) and QOing (80% chance, less if it's a busy news week) would give me some nice breathing room. Elmore Smith going would be close to sewing it up for me, but that's probably less than a 50/50 (he was always high risk/high reward as a pick). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,966 Posted October 1 I currently see Janey Godley, Ch. Kamolvisit and Sean Wallace as very likely to score (Wallace stopped posting on social media in June). Keeps the current leader ahead by one point. Chomsky is for me as likely to go as Carter (Does anybody have both of them?). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Grimace 359 Posted October 1 50 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Chomsky is for me as likely to go as Carter (Does anybody have both of them?). In the top 20, @gcreptile you are the only one with both of them. Many Carter picks, but again nullified by frequency and the -1 point for age 100. Jokers are the biggest issue still. And taking the comments above into account, these are threats to the crowded top 5 - a narrow spread to 111 to 114 pts! And this is a quick glance, so any omissions are my own fault. Legend: rank/pts name - picks =7/104 I Will not die… - Burrell (26 pts) joker = 10/101 Going Underground – Burrell and Godley, Maxwell joker (20 pts) =18/97 2025? No thank you – Carter, Burrell (26 pts) joker =18/97 Love Boat – Carter and Chomsky 3 of the top five have Burrell (13 pts); two past champs (Banana, OoO) don’t. With 4 previous winners in top 20, and 3 in top 5, the next 91 days as @Thatcher said is 'all to play for'! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,036 Posted October 1 Martin Lee QO: https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/01/eurovision-winner-martin-lee-band-brotherhood-man-dies-77-21713207/ 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,036 Posted October 1 Frank Fritz QO: https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/30793689/frank-fritz-dead-american-pickers-mike-wolfe-stroke/ Just keep coming... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,597 Posted October 1 Does anybody know how old Frank Fritz actually was? DDP has his D.o.B as November '65, which makes him 58 at death. Most reports put him at 60 at death. (It's only 1 point, and it won't exactly affect the medal positions, but we strive for accuracy!). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted October 1 59 minutes ago, time said: Does anybody know how old Frank Fritz actually was? DDP has his D.o.B as November '65, which makes him 58 at death. Most reports put him at 60 at death. (It's only 1 point, and it won't exactly affect the medal positions, but we strive for accuracy!). Every single obit says he was 60. The 1965 birthdate probably originates from wrong original research or IMDb. I would go with what the obits are saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,036 Posted October 1 John Amos QO: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13912773/John-Amos-dead-Good-Times-star-roots.html 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,597 Posted October 2 On 01/10/2024 at 16:55, time said: Does anybody know how old Frank Fritz actually was? DDP has his D.o.B as November '65, which makes him 58 at death. Most reports put him at 60 at death. (It's only 1 point, and it won't exactly affect the medal positions, but we strive for accuracy!). 23 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: Every single obit says he was 60. The 1965 birthdate probably originates from wrong original research or IMDb. I would go with what the obits are saying. The Tenessean has an answer. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted October 2 My, that table is looking tighter than a nun's cunt in a sandstorm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drunkasaskunk 194 Posted October 7 I have had a look at last years DDP. 2023 saw 312 hits Of these 47 (just over 15%) had UK Yahoo as the official death Notice Of these 47 I have subsequently found OTHER QOs for 28 of them, leaving 29 with no other QO save from Yahoo Of the YAHOO QOs, Yahoo has simply copied and pasted articles from sources that are NOT QO sources. These include, but are not limited to • Associated Press • Bloomberg • Boston 25 News • Deadline • Hollywood Reporter • Los Angeles Times • Niagara Gazette, Niagara Falls, N.Y. • Pensacola News Journal • Reuters • Rolling Stone • Texas Tribune • The News-Gazette, Champaign-Urbana, Ill. • The Register-Herald, Beckley, W.Va. • USA Today • Vibe Quite a few of the Yahoo links no longer work so I couldn’t see what source they copied and pasted from. If USA Today and the Pensacola News Journal count as QOs when the UK Yahoo search engine publishes them why can’t USA Today and the Pensacola News Journal count as QOs in their own right? These are the scoring hits that I can only find Yahoo as a QO https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_J.html#johnsoe023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_B.html#balabaj022 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_G.html#griffir023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_O.html#odonob023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_D.html#dickerh023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_D.html#defong023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_S.html#shakurm022 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_F.html#field9f122 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_W.html#weickel021 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_E.html#edelstg023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_Z.html#zimmerr023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_A.html#amese https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_J.html#januad https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_A.html#alqura023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_S.html#stevena022 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_R.html#riordar023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_V.html#vinsonr023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_S.html#saintyjx19 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_R.html#russelmx19 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_H.html#haskinf023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_R.html#richbo https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_N.html#nietoa99x19 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_T.html#tworib023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_Y.html#yunh023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_C.html#calvinj023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_B.html#brehmel023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_J.html#jeong9y022 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_B.html#baadans023 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_D.html#duncana022 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_T.html#tarso9i020 https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-64929455 ***BUT NOT IN ENGLISH These are the hits that have Yahoo as the official death notice but for which I have found additional QOs for. https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_W.html#whitth https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/us-harry-whittington-dick-cheney-b2277004.html https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_P.html#pinseg https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11795577/Gordon-Pinsent-popular-Canadian-actor-starred-Away-Blacula-dead-92.html https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_B.html#butleb https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/apr/14/bill-butler-obituary https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_U.html#ulrict https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2024/01/30/torben-ulrich-tennis-jazz-film-lars-metallica-died-obituary/ https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_A.html#attaguq021 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2023/12/21/qapik-attagutsiak-last-inuit-inuk-bones-munitions-war/? https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_A.html#axelroj023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12873073/Veteran-actor-Jack-Axelrod-dies-aged-93.html https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_B.html#barkana020 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/02/ady-barkan-dead-healthcare-activist https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_W.html#wyllieh023 https://www.thetimes.com/uk/scotland/article/the-very-rev-dr-hugh-wyllie-obituary-fh72hxgqn https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_P.html#protoo https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2023/11/10/oleg-protopopov-skater-olympics-gold-soviet-union/ https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_F.html#fischp https://metro.co.uk/2023/11/02/murder-she-wrote-creator-dies-aged-88-after-death-of-angela-lansbury-19766456/ https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_R.html#rawlsb https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/67726877 https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_D.html#davisr023 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/27/richard-davis-obituary https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_H.html#hoffmae018 https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/23/elizabeth-hoffman-dead-sisters-star-trek-star-dies-aged-97-19709722/ https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_B.html#bucklj https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12421595/James-Buckley-former-conservative-US-senator-dies-100-Washington-Post.html https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_T.html#talavef022 https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jul/18/tributes-pour-in-after-spanish-cartoonist-francisco-ibanez-talavera-dies-aged-87-mortadelo-and-filemon https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_S.html#sevillc023 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/carmen-sevilla-films-obituary-death-b2367298.html https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2023/celebs_V.html#volkove021 https://www.thetimes.com/uk/obituaries/article/esteban-volkov-trotskys-grandson-who-helped-turn-place-of-killing-into-museum-qqdbc8jwt Perhaps folk with better researching skills than I have can find other QOs apart from Yahoo for the ones that I was unable to find. Further, if someone who is better at stats than me can ascertain how – if at all – ridding the copy and pasting bot at UK Yahoo as a QO source would effect the result. I THINK IT IS TIME TO SHOW YAHOO THE DOOR. Thanks for reading. DaaS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,028 Posted October 7 10 minutes ago, drunkasaskunk said: I THINK IT IS TIME TO SHOW YAHOO THE DOOR. I am likely never going to agree with you on this, however I commend your conviction. My point is, and I think I've made this argument before, is that Yahoo allows more international picks and stops the DDP from becoming insular around the UK. Of the 29 you listed all but one of them are not UK based, John Sainty being the exception. As much as I understand that the DDP is a UK focused deadpool, it is open internationally and accepts picks from all around the world. Even if Yahoo only provided an unique QO for one hit, I would still back it's inclusion as a valid source, as, in my opinion, it makes the game more equal to international players. Your point on the stupidity of Yahoo being allowed when all it does is copy articles from sources that aren't allowed, is unarguable, however I see that as a sign to widen the number of allowed sources rather than simply to cut out Yahoo. The pool I run on this site allows anything as a QO as long as death is definitive, as I love having a more diverse set of picks, but I would never argue for anything near that for the DDP. Instead I think that some of Yahoo's most common sources should be allowed as QOs in the DDP and then, and only then, would I support the removal of Yahoo from the list. I feel like that would be a reasonable compromise, but I have the feeling you'd still be against it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted October 7 QO for Cissy Houston. A unique pick. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,220 Posted October 7 Tbh I’m noticing the yahoo trick is working less and less recently so I feel like the issue is kind of resolving itself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted October 7 4 hours ago, Commtech Sio Bibble said: Your point on the stupidity of Yahoo being allowed when all it does is copy articles from sources that aren't allowed, is unarguable, however I see that as a sign to widen the number of allowed sources rather than simply to cut out Yahoo. The pool I run on this site allows anything as a QO as long as death is definitive, as I love having a more diverse set of picks, but I would never argue for anything near that for the DDP. Instead I think that some of Yahoo's most common sources should be allowed as QOs in the DDP and then, and only then, would I support the removal of Yahoo from the list. I feel like that would be a reasonable compromise, but I have the feeling you'd still be against it. Well, the question is: ARE there sources out there who would provide QOs which are otherwise missing? Willz asked for The Stage during the Borusa-Gate issue! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,133 Posted October 7 I don't see why principal industry magazines shouldn't be considered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,193 Posted October 7 1 hour ago, msc said: Well, the question is: ARE there sources out there who would provide QOs which are otherwise missing? Willz asked for The Stage during the Borusa-Gate issue! I'm not necessarily advocating it, but if you use Yahoo, do you use MSN? That would've covered at least 3 hits this year I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drunkasaskunk 194 Posted October 8 2 hours ago, Octopus of Odstock said: I'm not necessarily advocating it, but if you use Yahoo, do you use MSN? That would've covered at least 3 hits this year I think Am I missing something here? I thought MSN was removed from the list of sources a number of years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
