Magere Hein 1,400 Posted February 4, 2015 If the fuselage is blocking the stabilizer, why isn't the tip of the tail visible and why is it square-ended given that she's on an almost knife-edge? It's a matter of perspective. We look at the plane from a weird angle. The wings are almost perpendicular to our liine of sight, but we look at its front at an angle of some 20 degrees forward. Its roll angle is such that the starboard wing is closer to us than the port one, some 70 degrees from horizontal. We see the (from our point of view) right part of the stabiliser. If you imagine the complete horizontal stabiliser through the fuselage, the middle should meet slightly left (up in our pov) of the center of the fuselage. Determine the center line by joining the gap between the landing gear and the tail. Here's a similar plane at a more conventional angle: That one's not missing it's starboard engine, it's just hidden from view. regards, Hein 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted February 4, 2015 I think she has still lost a bit. Time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted February 4, 2015 From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60VAf_Nu4DM I cropped the following: It's the last still frame I could get before impact. I see no damage to the stabilisers. regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted February 5, 2015 From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60VAf_Nu4DM I cropped the following: It's the last still frame I could get before impact. I see no damage to the stabilisers. regards, Hein Looking at the latest cleaned up enhanced photos, I concur. Not a good idea to turn to port though when your port engine isn't working. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,271 Posted February 5, 2015 Looking at the latest cleaned up enhanced photos, I concur. Not a good idea to turn to port though when your port engine isn't working. Perhaps the pilot thought "now's the time to really set out my stall" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted February 5, 2015 Looking at the latest cleaned up enhanced photos, I concur. Not a good idea to turn to port though when your port engine isn't working. Perhaps the pilot thought "now's the time to really set out my stall" Or perhaps he thought he was Bob Hoover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted February 5, 2015 Looking at the latest cleaned up enhanced photos, I concur. Not a good idea to turn to port though when your port engine isn't working. No it isn't. The stabilisers survived the crash partly: regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whitehouse 872 Posted February 5, 2015 Kudos to the taxi driver who'se car was grazed by the portside wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,599 Posted February 6, 2015 BTW, it does look as if the port prop is feathered. regards, Hein Both engines failed according to Taiwan's Aviation Safety Council. The crew 'tried to restart one... to no avail'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted February 6, 2015 Both engines failed according to Taiwan's Aviation Safety Council. The crew 'tried to restart one... to no avail'. It's looking like a repeat of Kegworth; no.2 engine failed and no. 1 was shut down in error. http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9JarHTIAAAgAy3.jpg:large Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rotten Ali 600 Posted March 24, 2015 So Inspector Clouseau gets to the accident scene... "I do believe it warz a beome!" "A beome?" "Yes, a beome!" "Oh a bomb." "Yes, that is what I said..." "Do you know what kind of a bomb it was?" "Yes. Without warning, they will attack you. In this way..." "ahhhhhh...." 26th March edit... Cockpit lock out... Suicide on the part of the other pilot? Or other pilot taken ill will the door closed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,970 Posted March 26, 2015 I bet the pilot who crashed that plane in the Alps was gay. Not sure if that's related to the possible/likely suicide though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted March 26, 2015 I bet the pilot who crashed that plane in the Alps was gay. Not sure if that's related to the possible/likely suicide though... I have a shock announcement. He was a member of this forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,970 Posted March 26, 2015 I bet the pilot who crashed that plane in the Alps was gay. Not sure if that's related to the possible/likely suicide though... I have a shock announcement. He was a member of this forum Nice speculation, but unless it was a lurker, I can rule that out by a process of elimination. The age isn't right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,646 Posted March 26, 2015 I bet the pilot who crashed that plane in the Alps was gay. Not sure if that's related to the possible/likely suicide though... I have a shock announcement. He was a member of this forum Nice speculation, but unless it was a lurker, I can rule that out by a process of elimination. The age isn't right. What, you're seriously suggesting he might have been a former member of a classic punk band!? Awesome 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted March 26, 2015 One thing is for sure, Joan Armatrading's stream of royalty cheques might dry up for a bit... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rotten Ali 600 Posted March 26, 2015 Maybe a good time to play a little music and not to think too much about air crashes... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5j_mAEEdw 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted March 27, 2015 Maybe a good time to play a little music and not to think too much about air crashes... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5j_mAEEdw No one here gets out alive ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,044 Posted April 11, 2015 Hassan Issengar, Moroccan athlete, killed in the Morocco coach crash. He was 43. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/morocco-coach-crash-least-40-5491566 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted April 11, 2015 Hassan Issengar, Moroccan athlete, killed in the Morocco coach crash. He was 43. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/morocco-coach-crash-least-40-5491566 But......but......but isn't he Under 45?! ;-) Oh the anxiety of where to post obits..... SC 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted May 19, 2015 JAKARTA (AFP) - An Indonesian ambassador who was on a Pakistani military helicopter that crashed this month killing two other foreign envoys died on Tuesday after battling severe burn injuries, Indonesia's foreign minister said. Ambassador Burhan Muhammad, 58, was aboard the military helicopter, along with his wife and a delegation of ambassadors when it crashed on May 8 and set a school building ablaze in the Gilgit area of northern Pakistan. His wife, the Norwegian and Filipino ambassadors, and the wife of the Malaysian envoy were killed immediately. SC http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/indonesian-ambassador-dies-injuries-sustained-pakistan-helicopter-cr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,044 Posted June 5, 2015 Think this is as good a place as any... Javier Methol, one of the survivors of the 1972 Andes plane crash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Andes_flight_disaster) where the survivors ate portions of the dead to survive, has died of cancer at 79. http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2015/06/05/one-16-andes-plane-crash-survivors-dies-in-montevideo/ 1 down, 15 to go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,044 Posted June 30, 2015 Nasty - military plane hits residential area in Indonesia: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33323419 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted June 30, 2015 Nasty - military plane hits residential area in Indonesia: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33323419 "The BBC's Alice Budisatrijo in Jakarta says that only the tail of the aircraft is still recognisable; the rest has been reduced to debris." Those folks live in bamboo huts... And it struck a hotel to boot. Ugh...nothing good coming of that. Talk about an efficient slaughter, Damn near sounds intentional, which I would never have suggested but for a particular German co-pilot recently. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,599 Posted July 2, 2015 Both engines failed according to Taiwan's Aviation Safety Council. The crew 'tried to restart one... to no avail'. It's looking like a repeat of Kegworth; no.2 engine failed and no. 1 was shut down in error. http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9JarHTIAAAgAy3.jpg:large Official report confirms this The report says that in a cockpit recording, the pilot is heard saying: "Wow, pulled back the wrong side throttle." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
