maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted May 10, 2015 Bruce Dickinson wasn't the first singer with Iron Maiden, but he's the one everyone knows. Just sayin' like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,155 Posted May 10, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... .....apart from when Iron Maiden brought in Bruce Dickinson to replace Paul Di'Anno. That's the ONLY TIME it's ever worked. But even they fucked that up when they recruited Blaze Bayley to replace Dickinson mid 90s. Queen - bollocks INXS - pile of wank Bucks Fizz - utter smeg I rest my case. The Stranglers. Would New Order count? A) Not sure - do you mean when they replaced Hugh Cornwell*? Or was there a replacement before that, that I obviously wouldn't remember due to my youthfulness? No. * Hugh Cornwell wrote a song about my shitty hometown 'Please Don't Put Me On A Slow Boat To Trowbridge' Yes. They've had more than one personnel change, but the current lead guitarist/vocalist has been with them for 15 years, which is about as long as Hugh was in the band. at the song. I've just sent it to my mate who is currently heading in your direction on his narrowboat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mijkediablo Posted May 10, 2015 Faith No More got through at least 8 singers (including a pre-fame Courtney Love) before they found Mike Patton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mijkediablo Posted May 10, 2015 Sorry for the double post, but I had to add Can. Their work under original vocalist Malcolm Mooney was great, but when they replaced him with Damo Suzuki, they got even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... .....apart from when Iron Maiden brought in Bruce Dickinson to replace Paul Di'Anno. That's the ONLY TIME it's ever worked. But even they fucked that up when they recruited Blaze Bayley to replace Dickinson mid 90s. Queen - bollocks INXS - pile of wank Bucks Fizz - utter smeg I rest my case. The Stranglers. Would New Order count? A) Not sure - do you mean when they replaced Hugh Cornwell*? Or was there a replacement before that, that I obviously wouldn't remember due to my youthfulness? No. * Hugh Cornwell wrote a song about my shitty hometown 'Please Don't Put Me On A Slow Boat To Trowbridge' Yes. They've had more than one personnel change, but the current lead guitarist/vocalist has been with them for 15 years, which is about as long as Hugh was in the band. at the song. I've just sent it to my mate who is currently heading in your direction on his narrowboat. Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... .....apart from when Iron Maiden brought in Bruce Dickinson to replace Paul Di'Anno. That's the ONLY TIME it's ever worked. But even they fucked that up when they recruited Blaze Bayley to replace Dickinson mid 90s. Queen - bollocks INXS - pile of wank Bucks Fizz - utter smeg I rest my case. The Stranglers. Would New Order count? A) Not sure - do you mean when they replaced Hugh Cornwell*? Or was there a replacement before that, that I obviously wouldn't remember due to my youthfulness? No. * Hugh Cornwell wrote a song about my shitty hometown 'Please Don't Put Me On A Slow Boat To Trowbridge' Yes. They've had more than one personnel change, but the current lead guitarist/vocalist has been with them for 15 years, which is about as long as Hugh was in the band. at the song. I've just sent it to my mate who is currently heading in your direction on his narrowboat. No one can name a fucking song by the once great Stranglers post-Hugh, and I say that after partying with said version of band on my 30th birthday right after they released their first post-Hugh album (read: 1993). They're total shite after replacing the irreplaceable. Not to mention The death of Jet Black, who was he closest thing to a metronome in the biz.SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... .....apart from when Iron Maiden brought in Bruce Dickinson to replace Paul Di'Anno. That's the ONLY TIME it's ever worked. But even they fucked that up when they recruited Blaze Bayley to replace Dickinson mid 90s. Queen - bollocks INXS - pile of wank Bucks Fizz - utter smeg I rest my case. The Stranglers. Would New Order count? A) Not sure - do you mean when they replaced Hugh Cornwell*? Or was there a replacement before that, that I obviously wouldn't remember due to my youthfulness? No. * Hugh Cornwell wrote a song about my shitty hometown 'Please Don't Put Me On A Slow Boat To Trowbridge' Yes. They've had more than one personnel change, but the current lead guitarist/vocalist has been with them for 15 years, which is about as long as Hugh was in the band. at the song. I've just sent it to my mate who is currently heading in your direction on his narrowboat. Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... .....apart from when Iron Maiden brought in Bruce Dickinson to replace Paul Di'Anno. That's the ONLY TIME it's ever worked. But even they fucked that up when they recruited Blaze Bayley to replace Dickinson mid 90s. Queen - bollocks INXS - pile of wank Bucks Fizz - utter smeg I rest my case. The Stranglers. Would New Order count? A) Not sure - do you mean when they replaced Hugh Cornwell*? Or was there a replacement before that, that I obviously wouldn't remember due to my youthfulness? No. * Hugh Cornwell wrote a song about my shitty hometown 'Please Don't Put Me On A Slow Boat To Trowbridge' Yes. They've had more than one personnel change, but the current lead guitarist/vocalist has been with them for 15 years, which is about as long as Hugh was in the band. at the song. I've just sent it to my mate who is currently heading in your direction on his narrowboat. No one can name a fucking song by the on w great Stranglers post- Hugh, and I say that after partying with said version of band on my 30th birthday right after they released their first post-Hugh album (read: 1993). They're total shite after replacing the irreplaceable. Not to mention TE death of Jet Black, who was he closest thing to a metronome in the biz. SC Hmmm, they're a different band but I'd hold out an argument that Norfolk Coast is a really good album, way more than one good song. It ain't the Stranglers of old for sure but I've loved catching their last couple of tours. A bit like Echo and the Bunnymen they've got no chance of hits anymore but they've grown with their audience. Re " TE death of Jet Black" Wiki - like two minutes ago - has him still breathing, albeit non-too-well. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 283 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,590 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Genesis replaced Peter Gabriel with Phil Collins. It was different but most of thier commercial success came after the change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,155 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Genesis replaced Peter Gabriel with Phil Collins. It was different but most of thier commercial success came after the change. Yes, but they were crap, sorry TOTAL BOLLOCKS after Peter Gabriel left. Lardy will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was her point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,536 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Genesis replaced Peter Gabriel with Phil Collins. It was different but most of thier commercial success came after the change. Yes, but they were crap, sorry TOTAL BOLLOCKS after Peter Gabriel left. Lardy will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was her point. They were crap, but then again I can't abide Phil Collins. But then again they acquired a much larger fanbase. The Buzzcocks replaced Howard Devoto with Pete Shelley taking the majority of the lead vocals and Steve Diggle as backing vocalist (and lead on a few songs) and I would say they were a lot better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Genesis replaced Peter Gabriel with Phil Collins. It was different but most of thier commercial success came after the change. Yes, but they were crap, sorry TOTAL BOLLOCKS after Peter Gabriel left. Lardy will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was her point. Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Genesis replaced Peter Gabriel with Phil Collins. It was different but most of thier commercial success came after the change. Yes, but they were crap, sorry TOTAL BOLLOCKS after Peter Gabriel left. Lardy will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was her point. I gotta disagree w that. Trick of the Tale was in line w classic prog material IMO, whereas Wind & Wuthering did see a drop off though still holding onto fragments of the band's genesis (oh yes pun intended), when Hackett left thy became a vehicle for Collins' pop material, ie TOTAL BOLLOCKS. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Aye, and to be fair, I went around telling people that ZZ Top had never had a line up change and then saw on their Wiki page that the current trio came about after some early hiring and firing. Some bands only make it once the wrong people are dumped. Jack Dee used to do a joke in which Pete Best's wife woke him up every morning with a cup of tea, chucking it on the bed and screaming: "Here's your tea Pete, you tosser!" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted May 11, 2015 The Jams drummer on t' transistor there plugging his biog, and stated Weller only took lead geetar and vocals when Foxton joined, and punted him to the bass Weller had been on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,536 Posted May 11, 2015 The Jams drummer on t' transistor there plugging his biog, and stated Weller only took lead geetar and vocals when Foxton joined, and punted him to the bass Weller had been on. Similar thing with The Ramones. Dee Dee was their lead vocalist, and Joey was on drums, then they had a switch around and Joey was by far a better vocalist and frontman than Dee Dee would have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,541 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple Aye, and to be fair, I went around telling people that ZZ Top had never had a line up change and then saw on their Wiki page that the current trio came about after some early hiring and firing. Some bands only make it once the wrong people are dumped. Jack Dee used to do a joke in which Pete Best's wife woke him up every morning with a cup of tea, chucking it on the bed and screaming: "Here's your tea Pete, you tosser!" iirc, ZZ Top's early drummer toing-and-froing hands over the title of the world's longest running, unaltered band as Los Lobos, who've been plugging away since 1973 and had their first recordings in 1976. Yo no soy marinero.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted May 11, 2015 Bands replacing frontmen NEVER WORKS. It's always TOTAL BOLLOCKS. The only reason bands do it is for MONEY. Name me ONE TIME that a band has replaced a dead/sacked frontman/woman and they've then been as good as, or better, than they were before. I BET YOU CAN'T...... Pink Floyd Fleetwood Mac Deep Purple AC/DC Iron Maiden Television Sex Pistols (although they were known then as either the Strand or the Swankers) Can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lard Bazaar 3,800 Posted May 11, 2015 I did already say 'apart from Iron Maiden'. Anyway, most of these bands mentioned are over-rated hippy shit bollocks anyway - Pink Floyd (pile of shite), AC/DC (pile of wank), Genesis (two OK songs at a push). But I'll concede on Faith No More. So that's two bands in the entire history of modern music that have replaced frontmen with better frontmen. Oh, fuck this, I'm off to listen to the entire Two Unlimited back catalogue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted May 11, 2015 I did already say 'apart from Iron Maiden'. Anyway, most of these bands mentioned are over-rated hippy shit bollocks anyway - Pink Floyd (pile of shite), AC/DC (pile of wank), Genesis (two OK songs at a push). But I'll concede on Faith No More. So that's two bands in the entire history of modern music that have replaced frontmen with better frontmen. Oh, fuck this, I'm off to listen to the entire Two Unlimited back catalogue. New Dave is okay, with old Chas, like! Does that make three successful replacements? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lard Bazaar 3,800 Posted May 12, 2015 I did already say 'apart from Iron Maiden'. Anyway, most of these bands mentioned are over-rated hippy shit bollocks anyway - Pink Floyd (pile of shite), AC/DC (pile of wank), Genesis (two OK songs at a push). But I'll concede on Faith No More. So that's two bands in the entire history of modern music that have replaced frontmen with better frontmen. Oh, fuck this, I'm off to listen to the entire Two Unlimited back catalogue. New Dave is okay, with old Chas, like! Does that make three successful replacements? What? WHAT! NOOOOOOOOOO! I'M NOT HAVING THAT! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS FUCKING COUNTRY? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest awesome guest Posted May 12, 2015 Is this a good time to same David Bowie is overrated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted May 12, 2015 Is this a good time to same David Bowie is overrated No it's a good time for : http://www.bbc.co.uk/learning/subjects/english.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,480 Posted May 12, 2015 Christ, I thought he'd died or been Yewtree'd for a second there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted May 12, 2015 Is this a good time to same David Bowie is overrated It's always a good time to say that when I'm looking in, though I'm careful not to mention it in the presence of one of my friends who changed her name to Bowie (seriously). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lard Bazaar 3,800 Posted May 12, 2015 Is this a good time to same David Bowie is overrated It's always a good time to say that when I'm looking in, though I'm careful not to mention it in the presence of one of my friends who changed her name to Bowie (seriously). Agreed, he's another one that in a career spanning what feels like 140 years he's averaged about one good song and one shit film per decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
