Spade_Cooley 9,535 Posted October 25, 2012 Lord McAlpine, former Tory Treasurer, could be in the headlines soon... Former Big Brother contestant Derek Laud as well.... And if we really want a perennial DDP favourite whose name may well be hitting the headlines, surely this is what'll take Jeremy Thorpe out of his wheelchair and into a pinewood box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted October 25, 2012 Jim'll was on a Celebrity Big Brother once, wasn't he? I wouldn't be surprised if one of the other no marks on that show allege a bit of extra-curricular activity from the dark knight.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youwanticewiththat 611 Posted October 25, 2012 Next thing will be The Krankies confessing to a threesome with Jimmy. Sorry about that image so late at night. Pip pip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted October 25, 2012 Jim'll was on a Celebrity Big Brother once, wasn't he? I wouldn't be surprised if one of the other no marks on that show allege a bit of extra-curricular activity from the dark knight.. Not with all those cameras. He was a member of Mensa you know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted October 26, 2012 Hey guys, I was following this story when I was in the UK last week and it is shocking aknd disgusting. We can only hope that the light being shone now catches out everyone else in his ring and people high upin the BBC, the Establishment, Jersey homes and so on involved in the years of cover ups. I have a serious question though: I was surprised to read this morning that Lord Patten said the BBC is answerable to the licence fee holders, not the government. I know they wanted it autonomous from government political pressures but I thought it would still ultimately be answerable. Of course the licence fee payers are, in effect, nearly the entire British public but is there an actual independent body representing you all that the BBC is accountable to? There is no way that simply having them investigate themselves will be satisfactory in a case of this magnitude when the corruption and cover-up potentially runs so deep. My brushes with corruption in Australian universities makes me very cynical about public institutions, particularly ones that are not answerable to a third party. Where students are powerless, academics abuse their positions and start playing power games as they feel very safe and entrenched and answerable to no one and I see an equivalent situation here. Sorry to write such a serious post for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
our Sydney 11 Posted October 26, 2012 Hi How could the BBC be anything but indipendent of government, after all the trust is apointed by the government of the day from a long list of government cronies, and they in turn apoint the Director General and all the senior managment, all totally indipendent Best regards Syd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,586 Posted October 26, 2012 The BBC is established by a Royal charter. The BBC board is there to oversee the opporation of the Director General and the creative output. Although the chairman of the board is appointed by the Queen (on the advice of her ministers) this is no different to the Archbishop of Canterbury and no-one would accuse Dr Williams of being a Government lackey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
our Sydney 11 Posted October 26, 2012 Hello Yes you are/were correct about the Board of governors of the BBC, about their creation and appointment, however I referred to the Trust (which replaced the board of governors some years ago) and that is appointed by the culture secretary, Now the Trust appoints the DG and any notion that the chairman of the Trust being appointed by the queen is unfortunately a myth. Best regards Syd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted October 26, 2012 The Trust came in as a result of changes made in response to the Hutton inquiry, when the BBC got screwed over by Alastair Campbell, the dry drunk of Westminster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted October 26, 2012 "It's a fair cop but society's to blame..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted October 26, 2012 Thanks for the explanation, guys. My question still remains, though: is there a separate formal body that investigates complaints against the BBC or does it always just do internal investigations of itself when problems occur? I saw a report the other day where people are now raising other concerns about corruption in the organisation such as claims of nepotism (generations of Dimblebys, etc, all hosting shows). Of course, some of the reports are just payback from the tabloid media after their recent woes but others seem valid concerns. As I said above, I have worked in Australian universities so I know all about the corruption, politics and nepotism that arises in these "public institutions". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted October 26, 2012 Good piece on the BBC's failings: http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/26/bbc-jimmy-savile-catholic-church?cat=commentisfree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hugh Gerection Posted October 27, 2012 Hey guys, I was following this story when I was in the UK last week and it is shocking aknd disgusting. We can only hope that the light being shone now catches out everyone else in his ring and people high upin the BBC, the Establishment, Jersey homes and so on involved in the years of cover ups. I have a serious question though: I was surprised to read this morning that Lord Patten said the BBC is answerable to the licence fee holders, not the government. I know they wanted it autonomous from government political pressures but I thought it would still ultimately be answerable. Of course the licence fee payers are, in effect, nearly the entire British public but is there an actual independent body representing you all that the BBC is accountable to? There is no way that simply having them investigate themselves will be satisfactory in a case of this magnitude when the corruption and cover-up potentially runs so deep. My brushes with corruption in Australian universities makes me very cynical about public institutions, particularly ones that are not answerable to a third party. Where students are powerless, academics abuse their positions and start playing power games as they feel very safe and entrenched and answerable to no one and I see an equivalent situation here. Sorry to write such a serious post for once. That's the problem, there were no doubt many "in his ring" over a long period of time. Unfortunately for Mr Saville they were probably mostly boy scouts. Man, after lurking on this site for months I think things are beginning to rub off on me - must get round to signing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted October 27, 2012 http://www.youtube.c...d&v=A9yJUOdVyUc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,533 Posted October 27, 2012 http://www.youtube.c...d&v=A9yJUOdVyUc Now I want to know what the prank text that was read out was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted October 27, 2012 http://www.youtube.c...d&v=A9yJUOdVyUc Now I want to know what the prank text that was read out was. ? She read it. The milking cows blindfold.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,102 Posted October 27, 2012 Could this have been another moment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted October 28, 2012 Could this have been another moment? Is that half a celtic top and half a Sevco top he's wearing ? It all makes sense now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted October 28, 2012 I think the BBC really need to try and find some sombre photos of Jimmy Saville. The news coverage is very serious with allegations of abuse and the very reputation of the BBC at stake but it is all accompanied by pictures of Sir Jimmy grinning like an idiot and putting two thumbs up in the air. You could write to Jim'll Fix It! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,102 Posted October 28, 2012 Could this have been another moment? Is that half a celtic top and half a Sevco top he's wearing ? It all makes sense now Never actually noticed what he was wearing until you pointed it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted October 29, 2012 http://www.telegraph...-abandoned.html I wonder if this is one of the people in saviles peado group decided to do him in rather then face charges according to another telegraph report the police have said one of the people in saviles ring has gone into hiding . or maybe he was... ...silenced . http://dundundun.net/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted October 29, 2012 Also slightly off topic but kind of connected . can someone explain to me why max Clifford hasn't been arrested after watching this video ? He is claiming he is habouring peadophiles and has protected peadophiles surely this is illegal ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltb2LaTqEv8&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLwp4TgWcYPINy1Uz4sm11dg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted October 29, 2012 Also slightly off topic but kind of connected . can someone explain to me why max Clifford hasn't been arrested after watching this video ? He is claiming he is habouring peadophiles and has protected peadophiles surely this is illegal ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltb2LaTqEv8&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLwp4TgWcYPINy1Uz4sm11dg Um, where does he say that? He mentions a story concerning paedophilia that he wasn't connected with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,102 Posted October 31, 2012 Good one! Duly nicked and now on my facebook page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites