CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Youth in Asia said: I had a feeling it would affect him quite badly. Payback for Brexit? More likely payback for all those stops he made at McDonalds during his morning jog ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,726 Posted April 6, 2020 10 days for Boris to live or die Based on timeline in this article Boris has arrived at breathlessness but not quite ICU. Unless there is a route off this timeline he will be fighting for his life in a few days for a week. I understand if he gets to that point he’s at about 50/50. Scary stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted April 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, Grim Up North said: 10 days for Boris to live or die Based on timeline in this article Boris has arrived at breathlessness but not quite ICU. Unless there is a route off this timeline he will be fighting for his life in a few days for a week. I understand if he gets to that point he’s at about 50/50. Scary stuff. What's even scarier is who could take over as PM if he dies.Imagine Priti Patel in no 10 ...Please get well soon Boris ! Doesn't look like he's getting out any time soon ! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/monday-briefing-boris-johnson-in-hospital-for-as-long-as-needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,248 Posted April 6, 2020 Reports this morning suggest his condition has deteriorated to the point where his immune system has over reacted to the virus and started attacking his own internal organs.If this is the case then it is likely that he will be on a ventilator within days. It is actually starting to look really quite bad for Boris I'm afraid ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,726 Posted April 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, CoffinLodger said: Reports this morning suggest his condition has deteriorated to the point where his immune system has over reacted to the virus and started attacking his own internal organs.If this is the case then it is likely that he will be on a ventilator within days. It is actually starting to look really quite bad for Boris I'm afraid ... Not the going down in history story he had planned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0neseur0 118 Posted April 6, 2020 I'm just not buying it. I've lived through too many "reports" on Prince Phil's imminent death to get in any way excited about this yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,946 Posted April 6, 2020 Italian press insists Bojo is on life support, citing "official NHS sources", but I can't find actual corroboration. From my vast COVID experience, the only "high-ranking" Italian politician who was admitted to hospital was Lucca mayor Alessandro Tambellini. Had it for a week, with usual symptoms, was hospitalized after his condition deteriorated. Though they underplayed the situation, he was in a critical state. That said, with good treatment he was discharged in a week and a half and has now recovered. I think Bojo will do the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khoi Huynh 4 Posted April 6, 2020 things dont look too good for him at all... but knowing him im still gonna give it a 50/50 chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted April 6, 2020 Could all be a scare story designed to frighten people into obeying the rules. I wouldn't put it past them. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,582 Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, CoffinLodger said: What's even scarier is who could take over as PM if he dies.Imagine Priti Patel in no 10 ...Please get well soon Boris ! Doesn't look like he's getting out any time soon ! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/monday-briefing-boris-johnson-in-hospital-for-as-long-as-needed If Boris were to die someone would take over as an interim Prime Minister (probably Gove). They would then organise a Conservative party leadership election. However I imagine there would be internal pressure to avoid a prolonged contest and they would be expected to fall in behind the appropriate candidate. I think this would be Gove as he of the current Government did best during last year's contest to succeed May. However if there was a strong centrist candidate they might decide to make it a contest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,646 Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: If Boris were to die someone would take over as an interim Prime Minister (probably Gove). They would then organise a Conservative party leadership election. However I imagine there would be internal pressure to avoid a prolonged contest and they would be expected to fall in behind the appropriate candidate. I think this would be Gove as he of the current Government did best during last year's contest to succeed May. However if there was a strong centrist candidate they might decide to make it a contest. A strong centrist like...Jeremy Hunt, former HEALTH secretary, fairly prominent on BBC radio of late and the one who came closest to beating Bojo last year. I mean, obviously - Johnson's not dead, yet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,582 Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: A strong centrist like...Jeremy Hunt, former HEALTH secretary, fairly prominent on BBC radio of late and the one who came closest to beating Bojo last year. I mean, obviously - Johnson's not dead, yet! It is a possibility but I am not sure he has the personality status to drive through a challenge against the advice of the men in dark suits Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,527 Posted April 6, 2020 Starmer's only been Labour leader for 24 hours and he's already killed his rival. Highest power level of any politician in history? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,726 Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said: Starmer's only been Labour leader for 24 hours and he's already killed his rival. Highest power level of any politician in history? Killer (said as the Spanish do would sound very like Keir) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,087 Posted April 6, 2020 Cummings won't be kept around long if Johnson carks it, which may explain the above .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,087 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Steve said: HE HIS NOT DEAD!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,972 Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Steve said: HE HIS NOT DEAD!!! Oh my God, now I'm really worried. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddyfool 379 Posted April 6, 2020 What are the chances? Bojo is 55, obese, has a probable history of alcohol excess (from his prior comments that a liquid lunch didn't impede his afternoon productivity at work etc.), and didn't look too healthy even before he caught this. He's also male, and men have a worse outcome with this. On the other hand, he'll receive the best possible care, obviously. I'd guesstimate he has about a 2.5% chance of dying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,726 Posted April 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, paddyfool said: What are the chances? Bojo is 55, obese, has a probable history of alcohol excess (from his prior comments that a liquid lunch didn't impede his afternoon productivity at work etc.), and didn't look too healthy even before he caught this. He's also male, and men have a worse outcome with this. On the other hand, he'll receive the best possible care, obviously. I'd guesstimate he has about a 2.5% chance of dying 40/1? He's had to go to hospital which isn't a great sign. I think he might be in the single digits 5/1 or 20% - so still more likely to live than to die (probably due to care and attention he will receive) but he is in serious risk of dying in the next 10 days. This morning was the first time in my nearly 52 years of life I have put on the TV to check if the Prime Minister was still alive or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paddyfool 379 Posted April 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Grim Up North said: 40/1? He's had to go to hospital which isn't a great sign. I think he might be in the single digits 5/1 or 20% - so still more likely to live than to die (probably due to care and attention he will receive) but he is in serious risk of dying in the next 10 days. This morning was the first time in my nearly 52 years of life I have put on the TV to check if the Prime Minister was still alive or not. 2.5% may have been a bit lowball, but as long as he isn't on a ventilator, I'd reckon his chances of dying are less than 10%. Remember, more than 90% of people diagnosed in their 70s survive this thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SusanStoHelit 21 Posted April 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said: I’m dumb sorry And I am even more so, I didn't even check wether he was actually the last one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted April 6, 2020 Bloody hell this escalated quickly. That's a bad sign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, SusanStoHelit said: And I am even more so, I didn't even check wether he was actually the last one... Actually I'm even moreso than that. I had it in my mind Spencer Perceval was the last to die in office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,620 Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: If Boris were to die someone would take over as an interim Prime Minister (probably Gove). They would then organise a Conservative party leadership election. However I imagine there would be internal pressure to avoid a prolonged contest and they would be expected to fall in behind the appropriate candidate. I think this would be Gove as he of the current Government did best during last year's contest to succeed May. However if there was a strong centrist candidate they might decide to make it a contest. There's no choice or speculation in this. The rules are simple. If he dies, then Dominic Raab takes over as he is the first Secretary of State and de facto deputy (even though the office of Deputy PM hasn't technically been in use in the UK since 2015). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
