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A well known socialist activist who supported civil liberties and rights, Pedro Zerolo, has died at age 54. He was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer 18 months ago.

 

http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news-spain/national/A_well_known_socialist_activist_who_supported_civil_liberties_and_rights_Pedro_Zerolo_has_died.shtml

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

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19 Holly Woodlawn
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A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

 

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

[snip]

19 Holly Woodlawn

[snip]

 

 

A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

 

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

I won't ask how anyone would have known of her, much less her. Crazy. I've no business being on the same Web page.

SC

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

[snip]

19 Holly Woodlawn

[snip]

 

A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

 

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

I won't ask how anyone would have known of her, much less her. Crazy. I've no business being on the same Web page.

SC

 

 

 

Each to their own.

Surely everyone has heard 'Walk On The Wild Side'.

She is far more interesting to me than baseball coaches and presidents of US colleges that I've never heard of.

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

[snip]

19 Holly Woodlawn

[snip]

 

A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

I won't ask how anyone would have known of her, much less her. Crazy. I've no business being on the same Web page.

SC

 

Each to their own.

Surely everyone has heard 'Walk On The Wild Side'.

She is far more interesting to me than baseball coaches and presidents of US colleges that I've never heard of.

I believe I've been misunderstood. I'm saying that is an astounding selection and I'm not worthy to be in the presence of those so astute. I wasn't being sarcastic. Of course I know the Lou Reed song--not sure how that leapfrogs to knowing that he was talking about a real person, and then find out about said real person. Is that common knowledge?

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

[snip]

19 Holly Woodlawn

[snip]

A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

I won't ask how anyone would have known of her, much less her. Crazy. I've no business being on the same Web page.

SC

 

Each to their own.

Surely everyone has heard 'Walk On The Wild Side'.

She is far more interesting to me than baseball coaches and presidents of US colleges that I've never heard of.

I believe I've been misunderstood. I'm saying that is an astounding selection and I'm not worthy to be in the presence of those so astute. I wasn't being sarcastic. Of course I know the Lou Reed song--not sure how that leapfrogs to knowing that he was talking about a real person, and then find out about said real person. Is that common knowledge?

SC

 

 

Apologies if I misunderstood. In answer to your question, no, it wouldn't be common knowledge imo, but it's the kind of snippet one picks up while looking up random stuff on the net. For example, I was aware that the Holly in WotWS was based on a real person, although I didn't recall the details. I may have read it on Songfacts, which is a site I occasionally visit when a song attracts my interest, and I usually end up looking at more stuff than I went there for, as you do.

 

I stand by the baseball players and college presidents comment though. America's a big place and there are so fucking many of them. I wouldn't even know the names of the current Oxford college masters/wardens/presidents whatever. Now there's a thought .....

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

[snip]

19 Holly Woodlawn

[snip]

 

A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

 

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

I won't ask how anyone would have known of her, much less her. Crazy. I've no business being on the same Web page.

SC

 

Handy is no ORDINARY DLer like most of us..... :D

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Well it's been common knowledge to me that Holly Woodlawn is a real person for over two decades, ever since watching this to be precise.

 

http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/675989cd5354494a9f87201aa2b67345

 

I didn't know she was ill though, she was picked more lifestyle and the fact that Warhol's factory stars haven't tended to make old bones.

 

The synopsis of the programme is wrong though. Joe "Sugar Plum Fairy" Campbell was still alive at that point but was probably unwilling or unable to talk.

 

LFN - Thanks,I think.

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Well it's been common knowledge to me that Holly Woodlawn is a real person for over two decades, ever since watching this to be precise.

 

http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/675989cd5354494a9f87201aa2b67345

 

I didn't know she was ill though, she was picked more lifestyle and the fact that Warhol's factory stars haven't tended to make old bones.

 

The synopsis of the programme is wrong though. Joe "Sugar Plum Fairy" Campbell was still alive at that point but was probably unwilling or unable to talk.

 

LFN - Thanks,I think.

Handy, there are times when you come out with stuff on here, some titbit of info or summat, and I think 'fucking hell!

All good Handy, keep up the good work!

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Irrelevent - largely - to the gay community probably, but

 

Andrew "Freddie" Flintoff just picked Somewhere Over the Rainbow amongst his Desert Island Discs choices, just thought I'd - like - share that.

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

[snip]

19 Holly Woodlawn

[snip]

 

A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

 

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

I won't ask how anyone would have known of her, much less her. Crazy. I've no business being on the same Web page.

SC

 

 

 

Each to their own.

Surely everyone has heard 'Walk On The Wild Side'.

She is far more interesting to me than baseball coaches and presidents of US colleges that I've never heard of.

 

Aye and her death will probably even get a BBC obit.The namesake of "Lucy in the Sky with diamonds" did several years ago even though she was only a school friend of Lennon` son.Woodlawn on the other hand has the Andy Warhol link. She will most likely get an obit from all the UK news agencies.I do confess that I didn`t know she was a real person though.

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I have a homophobic neighbour and once I brought shiktles and he knocked them out of my hand saying "you can't eat gay sweets"and he said " I will not let you taste the rainbow "

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Team 3 - Death Sings our Name (People mentioned in song lyrcs or titles)

[snip]

19 Holly Woodlawn

[snip]

 

A unique pick bonus could be heading Handrejka's way - Holly Woodlawn is very unwell, suffering from 'lesions' on the lungs and brain.

 

This site is raising cash for her nursing care...and funeral :skull:

 

http://www.gofundme.com/bringhollyhome

Biopsy confirms that she has "aggressive lung cancer that has spread to her brain".Can`t see her making 2016 then! :skill2::pop:

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*Peggy Gilbert, a jazz musician lived to 102.

*Ruth Ellis, an early gay rights activist lived to 101.

*Harry Hay, another early gay rights activist lived to 90. His partner John Burnside, the inventor of the teleidoscope, died last year at 91.

*Sir John Gielgud lived to a very reasonable 96, as did Virginia Prince.

*Gian Carlo Menotti was 95.

*Sir Michael Tippett was 93.

*Quentin Crisp was 90.

*Kurt von Ruffin roughed it out for 95 years despite being kept in a concentration camp for sometime. Fellow inmate Karl Gorath lived to a ripe 90.

*Moody bisexual and Hitler's favourite, Marlene Dietrich clocked it up to 90.

*Berenice Abbott was 93.

*Aaron Copland was another composer to see 90.

*Virgil Thomson, a composer of 92.

*Duncan Grant was 93.

*E. M. Forster was 91.

*W. Somerset Maugham, also 91.

*King Gustav V of Sweden was 92.

*Pharaoh Pepi II of Neferkare was roughly about 94.

*Kermit Love, sadly passed away last year but he was 91.

*James Kirkup passed away in May, aged 91.

*Harold Norse passed away in June, aged 92.

*Merce Cunningham passed away in July, aged 90.

 

I'll stop there for the ones that are already dead because if I start going into names of individuals that lived into their 80s I'll be here all day.

 

OK, since this thread is growing... may as well concentrate on some possibilities for 2010!

 

*Hugues Cuenod is still alive. He is 108 next year. His husband (or civil partner to be precise) is 41 years younger than him. F**k me! Although that might be what's keeping him feeling so young!

*British Army commando and journalist Micky Burn will be 98!

*Gay rights activist Axel Axgil is 95 next year!

*Nazi victims Karl Lange and Paul Gerhard Vogel will also turn 95!

*Playwright Arthur Laurents will turn 92.

*Singer Chavela Vargas will turn 91.

*Pierre Cardin, already on the main list, is 88 next year.

*Drag queen/WWII veteran Jose Sarria will be 87 or 88.

*Composer Ned Rorem will be 87, as will Fred Richmond and director Franco Zeffirelli.

*Phyllis Lyon, a very prominent gay rights activist in the U.S. will be 86 next year, as will poet Edward Field.

*The great Gore Vidal, gay rights activist Frank Kameny and singer Johnny Brandon will be 85.

*Ronnie Gilbert, of The Weavers and a collaborator with Pete Seeger, will be 84 next year, as will composers Lee Hoiby and Hanz Werner Henze, minister Otis Charles and Lord Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu, known for his "bisexual activities".

*Underground filmmaker Kenneth Anger and poet John Ashbery will be 83.

*Composer Ruth Anderson, actor Jack Larson, legendary filmmaker James Ivory, gay rights activist John Challis, Labour Party politician Maureen Colquhoun, philanthropist Joan Chalmers and playwright Edward Albee will all turn 82 in 2010.

*Cecil Taylor, novelist Dominique Fernandez, sex educator Betty Dodson, Canadian politician Laurier LaPierre and ufologist Ted Bloecher will turn 81.

*Rabbi Lionel Blue will turn 80.

*At a push, Tab Hunter will be 79 next year and Giorgio Armani will be 76, as will Sir Peter Maxwell Davies and Rip Taylor. Johnny Mathis and Larry Kramer will be a reasonable 75.

 

That's all I could find at the moment. I really don't think there are that many, coming out wasn't really a normal thing to do until later in the 80s.. maybe even the 90s and in many places it's seen as taboo and not socially right so I think it's fair to say that a great deal of older celebs out there will be discretely gay or bisexual without us knowing about it. We also have to consider the fact that a lot of them will never come to terms with their sexuality and a lot of people didn't get to become famous BECAUSE of it and therefore didn't get the roles in Hollywood etc. because of it. All these factors produce a shorter list. We shall have to wait a long time for people like Luke Macfarlane, Neil Patrick Harris, T.R. Knight and Duncan James to age I guess (although many of US will be dead!)...

 

I'll add any other names to the list if anybody can think of any. I personally nominate Paul O'Grady, I know he isn't old but he doesn't keep in good health at all and I think he might have a second heart attack soon. Any other thoughts?

 

EDITS: Mary Daly died 03/01/2010 aged 81, Earl Wild died 23/01/2010 aged 94, Peter Flinsch died 30/03/2010 aged 89, Edwin Morgan OBE died 18/08/2010

Jack Larson has died aged 87 http://www.deathlist.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8454&page=69#entry237352

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Does that leave us with any of Montgomery Clift's lovers still living?

Just spent half an hour looking and every name I found, they are all dead.

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Until I read this thread I didn't know that Johnny Mathis and Peter Maxwell-Davis were gay.

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Yeah OK it makes sense with hindsight but he was not someone I associated with being gay.

 

Considering attitudes in the late seventies would When A Child is Born have been such a big hit if Mathis has been "out"?

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Would probably have been bigger tbh.

 

Fitted in with 'icons' etc. Though, given his colour , he might not want to have been associated with being a torch singer .

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OK, since this thread is growing... may as well concentrate on some possibilities for 2010!

 

*Hugues Cuenod is still alive. He is 108 next year. His husband (or civil partner to be precise) is 41 years younger than him. F**k me! Although that might be what's keeping him feeling so young!

*British Army commando and journalist Micky Burn will be 98!

*Gay rights activist Axel Axgil is 95 next year!

*Nazi victims Karl Lange and Paul Gerhard Vogel will also turn 95!

*Playwright Arthur Laurents will turn 92.

*Singer Chavela Vargas will turn 91.

*Pierre Cardin, already on the main list, is 88 next year.

*Drag queen/WWII veteran Jose Sarria will be 87 or 88.

*Composer Ned Rorem will be 87, as will Fred Richmond and director Franco Zeffirelli.

*Phyllis Lyon, a very prominent gay rights activist in the U.S. will be 86 next year, as will poet Edward Field.

*The great Gore Vidal, gay rights activist Frank Kameny and singer Johnny Brandon will be 85.

*Ronnie Gilbert, of The Weavers and a collaborator with Pete Seeger, will be 84 next year, as will composers Lee Hoiby and Hanz Werner Henze, minister Otis Charles and Lord Edward Douglas-Scott-Montagu, known for his "bisexual activities".

*Underground filmmaker Kenneth Anger and poet John Ashbery will be 83.

*Composer Ruth Anderson, actor Jack Larson, legendary filmmaker James Ivory, gay rights activist John Challis, Labour Party politician Maureen Colquhoun, philanthropist Joan Chalmers and playwright Edward Albee will all turn 82 in 2010.

*Cecil Taylor, novelist Dominique Fernandez, sex educator Betty Dodson, Canadian politician Laurier LaPierre and ufologist Ted Bloecher will turn 81.

*Rabbi Lionel Blue will turn 80.

*At a push, Tab Hunter will be 79 next year and Giorgio Armani will be 76, as will Sir Peter Maxwell Davies and Rip Taylor. Johnny Mathis and Larry Kramer will be a reasonable 75.

 

That's all I could find at the moment. I really don't think there are that many, coming out wasn't really a normal thing to do until later in the 80s.. maybe even the 90s and in many places it's seen as taboo and not socially right so I think it's fair to say that a great deal of older celebs out there will be discretely gay or bisexual without us knowing about it. We also have to consider the fact that a lot of them will never come to terms with their sexuality and a lot of people didn't get to become famous BECAUSE of it and therefore didn't get the roles in Hollywood etc. because of it. All these factors produce a shorter list. We shall have to wait a long time for people like Luke Macfarlane, Neil Patrick Harris, T.R. Knight and Duncan James to age I guess (although many of US will be dead!)...

 

I'll add any other names to the list if anybody can think of any. I personally nominate Paul O'Grady, I know he isn't old but he doesn't keep in good health at all and I think he might have a second heart attack soon. Any other thoughts?

 

EDITS: Mary Daly died 03/01/2010 aged 81, Earl Wild died 23/01/2010 aged 94, Peter Flinsch died 30/03/2010 aged 89, Edwin Morgan OBE died 18/08/2010

The 88-year old British-American actor Terry Kilburn is also openly homosexual.

 

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