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On 17/07/2015 at 12:58, Bibliogryphon said:

OK here it is.

 

A list Privy Council Members who were appointed before 1980. Originally I was going to take this back 30 years but there were just too many of them.

 

There are 39 in total including 2 women. Many of these have already been discussed previously but there are some commonwealth appointments who are new to me. Be warned one of them doesn't even qualify for his own Wiki page so obits are not guaranteed. I have listed them with their names but on Wiki they are listed under their titles which is why this list is not strictly alphabetical.

 

  • Doug Anthony
  • Peter Carrington
  • Alun Gwynne-Jones
  • Robert Lindsay
  • Roger Edwards
  • Denzil Davies
  • Edward Du Caan
  • John Eden
  • Prince Philip
  • Norman Fowler
  • Roy Hattersley
  • Denis Healey
  • Michael Heseltine
  • Terrence Higgins
  • Geoffrey Howe
  • David Howell
  • Patrick Jenkin
  • Michael Jopling
  • Gerald Kaufman
  • Peter Kenilorea
  • Tom King
  • James McKay
  • John Morris
  • Roland Moyle
  • Ronald Murray
  • John Nott
  • Turlough O’ Donnell
  • Sally Oppenheimer-Barnes
  • David Owen
  • Jim Prior
  • James Ramsden
  • William Rogers
  • Robert Sheldon
  • Ian Sinclair
  • Michael Samare
  • David Steel
  • Ninian Stephen
  • Prince Charles
  • Shirley Williams

What do you mean you have fallen asleep.

 

I intend to get myself onto the Privy Council so I can live forever just like this lot.

 

This list is now down to 15 individuals

 

  1. John Morris
  2. Roy Hattersley
  3. Bill Rodgers
  4. David Own
  5. Ian Sinclair
  6. David Steel
  7. Norman Fowler
  8. Michael Heseltine
  9. Terence Higgins 
  10. David Howell
  11. Michael Jopling
  12. Tom king
  13. James McKay
  14. John Nott
  15. Sally Oppenheim Barnes

There are another seven who by the end of the year will have served for 40 years

 

Just thinking this could be a good Scavenger Hunt category

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12 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said:

 

This list is now down to 15 individuals

 

  1. John Morris
  2. Roy Hattersley
  3. Bill Rodgers
  4. David Own
  5. Ian Sinclair
  6. David Steel
  7. Norman Fowler
  8. Michael Heseltine
  9. Terence Higgins 
  10. David Howell
  11. Michael Jopling
  12. Tom king
  13. James McKay
  14. John Nott
  15. Sally Oppenheim Barnes

There are another seven who by the end of the year will have served for 40 years

 

Just thinking this could be a good Scavenger Hunt category

 

You've missed the King from your list.

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1 minute ago, prussianblue said:

 

You've missed the King from your list.

 

Technically he is no longer a member of the Privvy Council as they advise the King.

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Just now, Bibliogryphon said:

 

Technically he is no longer a member of the Privvy Council as they advise the King.

 

Correct, but my understanding was that the list was those appointed pre-1980 who weren't dead. Him being the monarch doesn't alter that.

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1 minute ago, prussianblue said:

 

Correct, but my understanding was that the list was those appointed pre-1980 who weren't dead. Him being the monarch doesn't alter that.

 

I was cross referencing my list with the list on Wikipedia in which he is not included

 

I am none too fussed about excluding him it is not as though he is going to be forgotten about

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The longtime head of the Illinois Chamber of Commerce has died. Todd Maisch, 57, died early this morning, the chamber confirmed. 
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John Morris, Baron Morris of Aberavon, former Labour MP for Aberavon (1959-2001) and former Secretary of State for Wales and latterly Attorney-General for England And Wales and for Northern Ireland, reportedly dead: 

I understand he's a DDP pick.

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On 01/06/2023 at 13:28, Bibliogryphon said:

 

This list is now down to 15 individuals

 

  1. John Morris
  2. Roy Hattersley
  3. Bill Rodgers
  4. David Own
  5. Ian Sinclair
  6. David Steel
  7. Norman Fowler
  8. Michael Heseltine
  9. Terence Higgins 
  10. David Howell
  11. Michael Jopling
  12. Tom king
  13. James McKay
  14. John Nott
  15. Sally Oppenheim Barnes

There are another seven who by the end of the year will have served for 40 years

 

Just thinking this could be a good Scavenger Hunt category

 

Less than a week after posting this list we are down to 14

 

How long will it be before Roy Hattersley is Lard to Rest?

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The death of Lord John Morris means that Stratton Mills (b. 1932) is the last surviving MP elected at the 1959 general election.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_living_state_leaders

There's such a drought that everyone in this list is now 89 years old or older. Ever since I followed this list, that never even remotely happened before.

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1 hour ago, roaming_comrade said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_living_state_leaders

There's such a drought that everyone in this list is now 89 years old or older. Ever since I followed this list, that never even remotely happened before.

I could split the list into a few categories:

 

Ultra-frails, mystery how they're still alive, coffinteases and those currently dying: Khamtai Siphandone (massive stroke in 2016, other health problems), Jimmy Carter, Guillermo Rodriguez Lara (looked decaying last year), Giorgio Napolitano, Arnaldo Forlani (bedbound some time ago), Kim Yong-nam, Zhu Rongji (parkinson's and other illnesses, looked like a corpse years ago), Orville Turnquest (looked very frail ages ago), Jamshid bin Abdullah ("spending his last days" in 2020 or something similar?), Violeta Chamorro (osteoporosis, brain tumors, endstage dementia, massive stroke a few years ago), Selim Hoss, Isabel Peron, Jean-Jacques Honorat, Chavalit Yongchaiyudh (massive health history), Queen Sirikit, Manmohan Singh, Bill Hayden, HD Deve Gowda, Than Shwe

 

Frail, but not ultrafrail: Thanin Kraivichien (it's been a while since his last public appearance. Seems to pop up sometimes to attend an event), Péter Boross, Édouard Balladur, Alfred Moisiu, Milan Panic, Ahmed Osman, Jose Sarney (pleural effusion or something similar a few years ago, recovered somewhat), Ivy Dumont, Choe Yong-rim, Cesar Virata (stroke, covid and pneumonia a few years ago), Lamberto Dini, George Vassiliou (looked quite frail in February), Raul Castro, Javier Valle Riestra, Anand Panyarachun, Vytautas Landsbergis (hospitalised atleast 5 times in recent years with infections), Fouad Mebazaa, Suchinda Kraprayoon, Arnold Koller, Jean Chrétien, Édith Cresson, Monica Dacon (described as very tired in 2014), Albert II, Abdul Rauf al-Kasm

 

Have been very ill in the past...

Fully recovered: Tomiichi Murayama, Mahathir Mohamad, Nikolai Ryzhkov (massive heart attack ca. 1990), Cleopa Msuya (very ill in 2013), Muhammad Jamiruddin Sircar (stroke in 2019, seems to have made a full recovery), A. Q. M. Badruddoza Chowdhury, Ugo Mifsud Bonnici, Mohamed Ennaceur ("in poor health" in 2019, bounced back), Pedro Pires (massive internal bleeding ca. 2014) 

Not sure how they're doing now: Abdoulaye Wade (goes to France for medical treatment once in a while), Raif Dizdarević (last time I heard, he was doing fine), Ion Iliescu, Dries Van Agt, Fernando Henrique Cardoso (broken hip or something similar a year or two ago?), Hüsamettin Cindoruk (kidney failure a few months ago), Akihito (ill now and then, but overall seems to be doing fine), Eddie Fenech Adami

 

Doing fine: Ali Hassan Mwinyi, Valdas Adamkus, Arnold Rüütel, Arthur Foulkes, Gombojavyn Ochirbat, Vigdís Finnbogadóttir, Marguerite Pindling, Mark Eyskens (described as "mastering the art of aging well" in April), Basdeo Panday, Dumaagiin Sodnom, Rubén Darío Paredes (obese but seems to be doing fine), Mátyás Szűrös, Rudolf Schuster, J. Y. Pillay, Henri Konan Bédié, Heng Samrin

 

Arguable (rumored ill but seems to be doing fine OR simply makes public appearances very rarely): Sam Nujoma, Kesang Choden, Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, Mabandla Dlamini, William Deane, Philip Greaves, Elliott Belgrave, Khieu Samphan (wants to get out of jail), Michael Hardie Boys (not seen in ages), Edmund Lawrence, Gavril Dejeu, Colville Young, Rachid Sfar, Michel Aoun (allegedly suffers from dementia, other ailments), Abel Pacheco, Édouard Frank, John Malecela, Nicola Mancino, Ali Haroun

 

Boring, no images in the last 5 years: Lee Hyun-jae, Efraín Goldenberg, Pié Masumbuko, Tang Fei, Kim Suk-soo, Lee Hong-koo, 

 

Could even be dead: Mohammad Hasan Sharq, Cesar Yanes Urias, Severino Tura and the two other red names

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2 hours ago, arghton said:

I could split the list into a few categories:

 

Ultra-frails, mystery how they're still alive, coffinteases and those currently dying: Khamtai Siphandone (massive stroke in 2016, other health problems), Jimmy Carter, Guillermo Rodriguez Lara (looked decaying last year), Giorgio Napolitano, Arnaldo Forlani (bedbound some time ago), Kim Yong-nam, Zhu Rongji (parkinson's and other illnesses, looked like a corpse years ago), Orville Turnquest (looked very frail ages ago), Jamshid bin Abdullah ("spending his last days" in 2020 or something similar?), Violeta Chamorro (osteoporosis, brain tumors, endstage dementia, massive stroke a few years ago), Selim Hoss, Isabel Peron, Jean-Jacques Honorat, Chavalit Yongchaiyudh (massive health history), Queen Sirikit, Manmohan Singh, Bill Hayden, HD Deve Gowda, Than Shwe

 

Frail, but not ultrafrail: Thanin Kraivichien (it's been a while since his last public appearance. Seems to pop up sometimes to attend an event), Péter Boross, Édouard Balladur, Alfred Moisiu, Milan Panic, Ahmed Osman, Jose Sarney (pleural effusion or something similar a few years ago, recovered somewhat), Ivy Dumont, Choe Yong-rim, Cesar Virata (stroke, covid and pneumonia a few years ago), Lamberto Dini, George Vassiliou (looked quite frail in February), Raul Castro, Javier Valle Riestra, Anand Panyarachun, Vytautas Landsbergis (hospitalised atleast 5 times in recent years with infections), Fouad Mebazaa, Suchinda Kraprayoon, Arnold Koller, Jean Chrétien, Édith Cresson, Monica Dacon (described as very tired in 2014), Albert II, Abdul Rauf al-Kasm

 

Have been very ill in the past...

Fully recovered: Tomiichi Murayama, Mahathir Mohamad, Nikolai Ryzhkov (massive heart attack ca. 1990), Cleopa Msuya (very ill in 2013), Muhammad Jamiruddin Sircar (stroke in 2019, seems to have made a full recovery), A. Q. M. Badruddoza Chowdhury, Ugo Mifsud Bonnici, Mohamed Ennaceur ("in poor health" in 2019, bounced back), Pedro Pires (massive internal bleeding ca. 2014) 

Not sure how they're doing now: Abdoulaye Wade (goes to France for medical treatment once in a while), Raif Dizdarević (last time I heard, he was doing fine), Ion Iliescu, Dries Van Agt, Fernando Henrique Cardoso (broken hip or something similar a year or two ago?), Hüsamettin Cindoruk (kidney failure a few months ago), Akihito (ill now and then, but overall seems to be doing fine), Eddie Fenech Adami

 

Doing fine: Ali Hassan Mwinyi, Valdas Adamkus, Arnold Rüütel, Arthur Foulkes, Gombojavyn Ochirbat, Vigdís Finnbogadóttir, Marguerite Pindling, Mark Eyskens (described as "mastering the art of aging well" in April), Basdeo Panday, Dumaagiin Sodnom, Rubén Darío Paredes (obese but seems to be doing fine), Mátyás Szűrös, Rudolf Schuster, J. Y. Pillay, Henri Konan Bédié, Heng Samrin

 

Arguable (rumored ill but seems to be doing fine OR simply makes public appearances very rarely): Sam Nujoma, Kesang Choden, Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, Mabandla Dlamini, William Deane, Philip Greaves, Elliott Belgrave, Khieu Samphan (wants to get out of jail), Michael Hardie Boys (not seen in ages), Edmund Lawrence, Gavril Dejeu, Colville Young, Rachid Sfar, Michel Aoun (allegedly suffers from dementia, other ailments), Abel Pacheco, Édouard Frank, John Malecela, Nicola Mancino, Ali Haroun

 

Boring, no images in the last 5 years: Lee Hyun-jae, Efraín Goldenberg, Pié Masumbuko, Tang Fei, Kim Suk-soo, Lee Hong-koo, 

 

Could even be dead: Mohammad Hasan Sharq, Cesar Yanes Urias, Severino Tura and the two other red names

 

 

Have you nothing better to do than research the health of those obscure nonenenties that nobody gives a fuck about?

 

You need to get a real life rather than waste it on that shit!  :lol:

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On 05/03/2023 at 15:13, drol said:

Considering the recent developments, Big Jiew Chavalit Yongchaiyudh will be the first entrant of the 2024 Immortals class.

 

Like the Legend of the Phoenix,

all ends with beginnings...

Picture from our immortal Chavalit's 91st birthday.

 

91° compleanno "Big Jiw" sorride forte  Partecipa al canto per raccogliere il sole (con clip)

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Not the only horrible cunt who died today...

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30 minutes ago, drol said:

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Not the only horrible cunt who died today...

The article says he died recently and there is some evidence his Wiki was updated with his death end May/beginning June and that edit was reverted.

 

Narrowing down a date of death would be good.

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9 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Frequently mentioned Malaysian politician Lim Kean Chye (wikidead at 103.

Finally!

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Roger Gales brief time covering for the ill Dame Eleanor Laing now expected to last until October. 

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On 14/05/2023 at 21:53, arghton said:

Latest turn is that early this week some paper said that Oommen Chandy is "very critical". However, family said that it's fake news and the family lawyer has sent a defamation notice to that reporter.

I think this is the end or atleast the start of the end. He's been undergoing immunotherapy for months and a serious bout of pneumonia doesn't go well with throat cancer that's likely terminal. They've not released any pictures of him anytime recently unlike during his previous hospitalisations.

Oommen Chandy (also a DL Cup pick this month) still under treatment and can't be consulted due to bad health condition according to this. However according to this, political leaders have had talks with him. 

 

There's an annoying amount of mystery surrounding his health condition, but he hasn't made appearances in months (I think the last time was following his hospitalisation around February or March - he was wheeled around looking like a skeleton) and is known to have advanced throat cancer. I think he'll be dead sooner than later but will it take days, weeks or months?

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On 25/05/2022 at 16:34, arghton said:

Here's a list of Filipino politicians born in 1935 and before:

 

Rodolfo Biazon (1935-) Former senator, frail

Rodolfo Biazon hospitalised with pneumonia: 

 

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On 01/05/2022 at 17:44, arghton said:

JAPAN (Up to 1935 also including "less notable" ones up to 1925. Note: Japan is notoriously bad at keeping track at who is alive and who is not)

 

Mikio Aoki (1934) Acting Prime Minister 2000

 

Mikio Aoki dead.

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18 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

Rodolfo Biazon hospitalised with pneumonia: 

 

Dead

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