Political Frailty

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8 hours ago, CoffinLodger said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they both go fairly soon as well.Only one or 2 MPs have got past 100 in history.

I expect both to go this year. 3 MPs being over 100 at the same time was a record which is unlikely to be repeated for a long while 

[Ulitzer95 12,596]

Dame Elmira Minita Gordon (wiki) who was the first Governor-General of Belize (1981–1993) following its independence, and the only woman to date to hold the position, has died just a few days after turning 90.

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Kay Ullrich, SNP MSP for West of Scotland (1999-2003), has died. She served as Shadow Health Minister and Chief Whip.

 

Obituaries: BBC

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30 minutes ago, Thatcher said:

Kay Ullrich, MSP for West of Scotland (1999-2003), has died. She served as Shadow Health Minister and Chief Whip.

Signed Wee Nippy up as a member supposedly. 
 

No MSPs died last year. I suspect Grim will be playing catch up in 2021, particularly with a lot of ageing 99ers.

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12 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Signed Wee Nippy up as a member supposedly. 
 

No MSPs died last year. I suspect Grim will be playing catch up in 2021, particularly with a lot of ageing 99ers.

Winnie Ewing springs to mind.

[Ulitzer95 12,596]

And now for a list that nobody asked for.

Following the death of Kay Ullrich today, a list of MSPs current and former aged 75+, ordered by DOB from oldest to youngest.

1) Winnie Ewing (wiki), 91, SNP, Highlands and Islands 99–03
2) David Steel, Baron Steel of Aikwood (wiki), 82, Lib Dem, Lothians 99–03
3) Colin Campbell (wiki), 82, SNP, West of Scotland 99–03
4) Keith Harding (wiki), 82, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03
5) Sir George Reid (wiki), 81, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03 then Ochil 03–07
6) Jean Turner (wiki), 81, Independent, Strathkelvin and Bearsden 03–07
7) Ian McKee (wiki), 80, SNP, Lothians 07–11
8) Robin Harper (wiki), 80, Greens, Lothians 99–11
9) Ian Jenkins (wiki), 79, Lib Dem, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale 99–03
10) George Foulkes, Baron Foulkes of Cumnock (wiki), 78, Labour, Lothians 07–11
11) Bill Walker (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Dunfermline 11–13
12) James Douglas-Hamilton, Baron Selkirk of Douglas (wiki), 78, Conservative, Lothians 99–07
13) Nanette Milne (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 03–16
14) Dennis Canavan (wiki), 78, Labour then Independent, Falkirk West 99–07
15) Dorothy-Grace Elder (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Glasgow 99–03
16) Ted Brocklebank (wiki), 78, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife, 03–11
17) Richard Simpson (wiki), 78, Labour, Ochil 99–03 then Mid Scotland and Fife 07–16
18) Gil Paterson (wiki), 78, SNP, Central Scotland 99–03 then West of Scotland 07–11 then Clyebank and Milngavie 2011–present
19) Tom Mason (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 2017–present
20) David Davidson (wiki), 77, Conservative, North East 99–07
21) Maureen Macmillan (wiki), 77, Labour, Highlands and Islands 99–07
22) Andrew Arbuckle (wiki), 76, Lib Dem, Mid Scotland and Fife 05–07
23) Andrew Welsh (wiki), 76, SNP, Angus 99–11
24) Chic Brodie (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 11–16
25) Christine Grahame (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 99–11 then Midlothian South 2011–present
26) Christopher Harvie (wiki), 76, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 07–11
27) Alasdair Morgan (wiki), 75, SNP, Galloway and Upper Nithsdale 99–03 then South of Scotland 03–07
28) Rob Gibson (wiki), 75, SNP, Highlands and Islands 03–11 then Caithness, Sutherland and Ross 11–16
29) Mike Pringle (wiki), 75, Lib Dem, Edinburgh South 03–11

Quite a few Scottish members on this Forum. Anyone know much about the health of some of the names here? I'm aware of Winnie Ewing being ill. I think Bill Walker has also been ill. Nanette Milne and Tom Mason have had illnesses in the past. Mason will surely be standing down next time, even if he hasn't announced his retirement yet.

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1 minute ago, Ulitzer95 said:

And now for a list that nobody asked for.

Following the death of Kay Ullrich today, a list of MSPs current and former aged 75+, ordered by DOB from oldest to youngest.

1) Winnie Ewing (wiki), 91, SNP, Highlands and Islands 99–03
2) David Steel, Baron Steel of Aikwood (wiki), 82, Lib Dem, Lothians 99–03
3) Colin Campbell (wiki), 82, SNP, West of Scotland 99–03
4) Keith Harding (wiki), 82, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03
5) Sir George Reid (wiki), 81, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03 then Ochil 03–07
6) Jean Turner (wiki), 81, Independent, Strathkelvin and Bearsden 03–07
7) Ian McKee (wiki), 80, SNP, Lothians 07–11
8) Robin Harper (wiki), 80, Greens, Lothians 99–11
9) Ian Jenkins (wiki), 79, Lib Dem, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale 99–03
10) George Foulkes, Baron Foulkes of Cumnock (wiki), 78, Labour, Lothians 07–11
11) Bill Walker (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Dunfermline 11–13
12) James Douglas-Hamilton, Baron Selkirk of Douglas (wiki), 78, Conservative, Lothians 99–07
13) Nanette Milne (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 03–16
14) Dennis Canavan (wiki), 78, Labour then Independent, Falkirk West 99–07
15) Dorothy-Grace Elder (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Glasgow 99–03
16) Ted Brocklebank (wiki), 78, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife, 03–11
17) Richard Simpson (wiki), 78, Labour, Ochil 99–03 then Mid Scotland and Fife 07–16
18) Gil Paterson (wiki), 78, SNP, Central Scotland 99–03 then West of Scotland 07–11 then Clyebank and Milngavie 2011–present
19) Tom Mason (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 2017–present
20) David Davidson (wiki), 77, Conservative, North East 99–07
21) Maureen Macmillan (wiki), 77, Labour, Highlands and Islands 99–07
22) Andrew Arbuckle (wiki), 76, Lib Dem, Mid Scotland and Fife 05–07
23) Andrew Welsh (wiki), 76, SNP, Angus 99–11
24) Chic Brodie (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 11–16
25) Christine Grahame (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 99–11 then Midlothian South 2011–present
26) Christopher Harvie (wiki), 76, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 07–11
27) Alasdair Morgan (wiki), 75, SNP, Galloway and Upper Nithsdale 99–03 then South of Scotland 03–07
28) Rob Gibson (wiki), 75, SNP, Highlands and Islands 03–11 then Caithness, Sutherland and Ross 11–16
29) Mike Pringle (wiki), 75, Lib Dem, Edinburgh South 03–11

Quite a few Scottish members on this Forum. Anyone know much about the health of some of the names here? I'm aware of Winnie Ewing being ill. I think Bill Walker has also been ill. Nanette Milne and Tom Mason have had illnesses in the past. Mason will surely be standing down next time, even if he hasn't announced his retirement yet.

 

Shouldn't this be in the Dead Pools section?   

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4 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Shouldn't this be in the Dead Pools section?   

No, because it's complete and not subjective to my own random picking. 

You can never have a complete list of German people.

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9 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

And now for a list that nobody asked for.

Following the death of Kay Ullrich today, a list of MSPs current and former aged 75+, ordered by DOB from oldest to youngest.

1) Winnie Ewing (wiki), 91, SNP, Highlands and Islands 99–03
2) David Steel, Baron Steel of Aikwood (wiki), 82, Lib Dem, Lothians 99–03
3) Colin Campbell (wiki), 82, SNP, West of Scotland 99–03
4) Keith Harding (wiki), 82, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03
5) Sir George Reid (wiki), 81, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03 then Ochil 03–07
6) Jean Turner (wiki), 81, Independent, Strathkelvin and Bearsden 03–07
7) Ian McKee (wiki), 80, SNP, Lothians 07–11
8) Robin Harper (wiki), 80, Greens, Lothians 99–11
9) Ian Jenkins (wiki), 79, Lib Dem, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale 99–03
10) George Foulkes, Baron Foulkes of Cumnock (wiki), 78, Labour, Lothians 07–11
11) Bill Walker (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Dunfermline 11–13
12) James Douglas-Hamilton, Baron Selkirk of Douglas (wiki), 78, Conservative, Lothians 99–07
13) Nanette Milne (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 03–16
14) Dennis Canavan (wiki), 78, Labour then Independent, Falkirk West 99–07
15) Dorothy-Grace Elder (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Glasgow 99–03
16) Ted Brocklebank (wiki), 78, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife, 03–11
17) Richard Simpson (wiki), 78, Labour, Ochil 99–03 then Mid Scotland and Fife 07–16
18) Gil Paterson (wiki), 78, SNP, Central Scotland 99–03 then West of Scotland 07–11 then Clyebank and Milngavie 2011–present
19) Tom Mason (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 2017–present
20) David Davidson (wiki), 77, Conservative, North East 99–07
21) Maureen Macmillan (wiki), 77, Labour, Highlands and Islands 99–07
22) Andrew Arbuckle (wiki), 76, Lib Dem, Mid Scotland and Fife 05–07
23) Andrew Welsh (wiki), 76, SNP, Angus 99–11
24) Chic Brodie (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 11–16
25) Christine Grahame (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 99–11 then Midlothian South 2011–present
26) Christopher Harvie (wiki), 76, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 07–11
27) Alasdair Morgan (wiki), 75, SNP, Galloway and Upper Nithsdale 99–03 then South of Scotland 03–07
28) Rob Gibson (wiki), 75, SNP, Highlands and Islands 03–11 then Caithness, Sutherland and Ross 11–16
29) Mike Pringle (wiki), 75, Lib Dem, Edinburgh South 03–11

Quite a few Scottish members on this Forum. Anyone know much about the health of some of the names here? I'm aware of Winnie Ewing being ill. I think Bill Walker has also been ill. Nanette Milne and Tom Mason have had illnesses in the past. Mason will surely be standing down next time, even if he hasn't announced his retirement yet.

 

Sadly there are too few SNP members to make a DDP theme team...

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Former Italian Minister of Interior Roberto Maroni in a serious condition following a likely heart attack or stroke yesterday which also caused him to fall badly. Initial reports dismissed the accident as minor, but now it seems it is linked to some serious unspecified issue.

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On 04/01/2021 at 19:50, Ulitzer95 said:

And now for a list that nobody asked for.

Following the death of Kay Ullrich today, a list of MSPs current and former aged 75+, ordered by DOB from oldest to youngest.

1) Winnie Ewing (wiki), 91, SNP, Highlands and Islands 99–03
2) David Steel, Baron Steel of Aikwood (wiki), 82, Lib Dem, Lothians 99–03
3) Colin Campbell (wiki), 82, SNP, West of Scotland 99–03
4) Keith Harding (wiki), 82, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03
5) Sir George Reid (wiki), 81, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 99–03 then Ochil 03–07
6) Jean Turner (wiki), 81, Independent, Strathkelvin and Bearsden 03–07
7) Ian McKee (wiki), 80, SNP, Lothians 07–11
8) Robin Harper (wiki), 80, Greens, Lothians 99–11
9) Ian Jenkins (wiki), 79, Lib Dem, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale 99–03
10) George Foulkes, Baron Foulkes of Cumnock (wiki), 78, Labour, Lothians 07–11
11) Bill Walker (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Dunfermline 11–13
12) James Douglas-Hamilton, Baron Selkirk of Douglas (wiki), 78, Conservative, Lothians 99–07
13) Nanette Milne (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 03–16
14) Dennis Canavan (wiki), 78, Labour then Independent, Falkirk West 99–07
15) Dorothy-Grace Elder (wiki), 78, SNP then Independent, Glasgow 99–03
16) Ted Brocklebank (wiki), 78, Conservative, Mid Scotland and Fife, 03–11
17) Richard Simpson (wiki), 78, Labour, Ochil 99–03 then Mid Scotland and Fife 07–16
18) Gil Paterson (wiki), 78, SNP, Central Scotland 99–03 then West of Scotland 07–11 then Clyebank and Milngavie 2011–present
19) Tom Mason (wiki), 78, Conservative, North East Scotland 2017–present
20) David Davidson (wiki), 77, Conservative, North East 99–07
21) Maureen Macmillan (wiki), 77, Labour, Highlands and Islands 99–07
22) Andrew Arbuckle (wiki), 76, Lib Dem, Mid Scotland and Fife 05–07
23) Andrew Welsh (wiki), 76, SNP, Angus 99–11
24) Chic Brodie (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 11–16
25) Christine Grahame (wiki), 76, SNP, South of Scotland 99–11 then Midlothian South 2011–present
26) Christopher Harvie (wiki), 76, SNP, Mid Scotland and Fife 07–11
27) Alasdair Morgan (wiki), 75, SNP, Galloway and Upper Nithsdale 99–03 then South of Scotland 03–07
28) Rob Gibson (wiki), 75, SNP, Highlands and Islands 03–11 then Caithness, Sutherland and Ross 11–16
29) Mike Pringle (wiki), 75, Lib Dem, Edinburgh South 03–11

Quite a few Scottish members on this Forum. Anyone know much about the health of some of the names here? I'm aware of Winnie Ewing being ill. I think Bill Walker has also been ill. Nanette Milne and Tom Mason have had illnesses in the past. Mason will surely be standing down next time, even if he hasn't announced his retirement yet.

Of that list Ewing, Steel, Foulkes, Douglas-Hamilton, Canavan, Welsh and Morgan were former Westminster MPs. 

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Ted Brocklebank is also famous for being the person who launched Selina Scott's career. 

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On 28/08/2019 at 22:22, gcreptile said:

Former South Dakota Senator Larry Pressler has bladder cancer:

https://kfgo.com/news/articles/2019/aug/28/former-senator-pressler-treated-for-bladder-cancer/931798/

 

He says he's currently in remission, but at 77.... well, you have to die of something eventually. 

And now... pancreatic cancer:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.keloland.com/news/local-news/former-u-s-senator-larry-pressler-battling-pancreatic-cancer/amp/

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54 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

And now... pancreatic cancer:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.keloland.com/news/local-news/former-u-s-senator-larry-pressler-battling-pancreatic-cancer/amp/

He's fucked. Pancreatic Cancer is one of those bastards where it normally too late by the time it causes problems and is diagnosed

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On 05/01/2021 at 14:27, drol said:

Former Italian Minister of Interior Roberto Maroni in a serious condition following a likely heart attack or stroke yesterday which also caused him to fall badly. Initial reports dismissed the accident as minor, but now it seems it is linked to some serious unspecified issue.

Yes, Maroni gets brain surgery for undisclosed ailment. Could be consequence of the fall, I think it is something way more serious...

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 Former State Senator Joseph M. Neal, Jr., D-North Las Vegas, the state's first black senator, died on New Year's Eve, according to a statement from his family.

"My Dad, after a long-fought battle, succumbed to an illness," stated his daughter, Sen. Dina Neal, D-North Las Vegas.

SC

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On 10/01/2020 at 14:28, Ulitzer95 said:

Agreed that a lot of them have been dropping off recently.

Thought I'd take this opportunity to look at how many WWII veterans from the three strands of government in the U.S. are still with us.

There are still 17 living formers members of the House of Representatives who served:

b. 1919: Lester L. Wolff
b. 1920: Neal Edward Smith
b. 1921: Mike McCormack
b. 1923: Bob Dole, Al Quie
b. 1924: Frank Joseph Guarini, Weston E. Vivian
b. 1925: Fletcher Thompson, G. William Whitehurst, Lucien Nedzi
b. 1926: J. Roy Rowland, Elwood Hillis, Earl Hutto, Mark Andrews, Robert J. Lagomarsino
b. 1927: Benjamin B. Blackburn, Arthur Ravenel Jr., Austin Murphy, Bud Brown, Edwin Edwards, Jim Weaver, James W. Symington
 

Lester L. Wolff celebrated his 102th birthday a few days ago. 102 and using social media.

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On 29/12/2020 at 20:42, Bentrovato said:

Algerian President Tebboune returns after Covid treatment in Germany - BBC News

Tebboune back to Germany following further complications.

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52 minutes ago, Thatcher said:

Tebboune back to Germany following further complications.

Actually he did never fully recover. The short stay in his country was only to show he was still alive. Further treatment was already planned back then.

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On 09/01/2021 at 14:10, arghton said:

Lester L. Wolff celebrated his 102th birthday a few days ago. 102 and using social media.

So happy for him.

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On 19/12/2020 at 11:49, drol said:

For the first time in 69 years, Kerala Communist leaders K. R. Gowri Amma and V. S. Achuthanandan both fail to cast their votes. Gowri Amma has suffered a fall this summer and is still "recuperating", while Achuthanandan is unable to leave home. He suffered a cerebral hemorrhage in 2019.

Here is a picture of Gowri Amma. By the looks of it she is completely unresponsive beside looking like a skeleton.

 

VS Achuthanandan to step down from all his public duties (he still held them!) citing health reasons.

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On 08/01/2018 at 12:09, Thatcher said:

Lung condition is a small lesion on the right lung. 

Tumour returns.

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3 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

Tumour returns.

When they have this kind of recurrence it usually doesnt end well.I'm afraid Mr Brokenshire is not likely to live to old age, or be a govt minister again.That said I wish him all the best of course !

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On 23/10/2020 at 08:17, adrian0719 said:

Mitch McConnell looking rough af, but denies anything wrong.

Mitch McConnell's father in law James S. C. Chao (wiki) is still alive and powerful at 93. Born in Shanghai and a close associate of the Mighty Jiang Zemin.

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On 07/10/2020 at 23:10, CoffinLodger said:

Once again it seems my prediction was wrong and Michael Shaw will become one of 3 living British MPs to become a centenarian on friday .Does anyone know if this has ever happened before ?

 

PS the next oldest is Jill Knight who is due to turn  100 in July 2023 so I doubt there'll be 4 alive at the same time, surely !

Lord Michael Shaw dead at 100.

 

Not picked in the DDP. Woops.