Clorox Bleachman 2,423 Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) @Predictor asked a while back who had received the most votes across all the "nth death of 20xx" polls. Well, here's the answer. Brackers is our strongest survivor, and with a bit of luck she could be the GOAT. She's beaten Kirk in under 3 years! Spoiler 471 Zsa Zsa Gabor 459 Billy Graham 364 Kirk Douglas 363 Leah Bracknell 345 NO MORE HITS 261 Herman Wouk 242 Prince Philip* 219 George Bush Sr 207 Vera Lynn* 191 Clive Dunn 184 Bob Dole* 179 Ronnie Biggs 184 Javier Perez de Cuellar 176 Olivia de Havilland* 136 King Michael of Romania 131 Abdelbaset al-Megrahi 131 Leslie Phillips* 118 Nobby Stiles* 117 Clive James 115 Oscar Niemeyer 113 Bhumibol Adulyadej 113 Martin Crowe 113 Robert Mugabe 111 Stirling Moss* 107 Nelson Mandela 107 Margaret Thatcher 104 Peter Sallis 98 Sam Simon 92 Bruce Forsyth 87 Joāo Havelange 86 Denis Norden 80 Claude Levi-Strauss 75 General Jaruzelski 73 Jimmy Carter* 72 Tom Smith* 72 Norman Wisdom 70 Al Molinaro 70 Ariel Sharon 68 Valerie Harper 66 Ginger Baker 66 Jake LaMotta 65 Errol Christie 64 Pierre Cardin* 64 Fidel Castro 63 Hosni Mubarak 62 Fats Domino 61 Glen Campbell 61 Joost van der Westhuizen 60 Bob Barker* 60 John McCain 60 Daniel arap Moi 59 Genesis P-Orridge 57 Chapman Pincher 52 Henry Kissinger* 51 Stan Lee 51 Patrick Swayze 50 Pope Benedict XVI 50 Tammy Faye Messner 49 Jill Gascoine 48 Yitzhak Shamir 47 Peter Carrington 46 Nancy Reagan 45 Richard Adams 45 Brooke Astor 44 Gerald Ford 41 Hugo Chavez 40 Susan Atkins 40 Jimmy Greaves 40 Helmut Kohl 40 Suharto 37 Tessa Jowell 36 Sydney Pollack 35 Michael Foot 35 Harold Pinter 35 Murray Walker* 34 Jerry Lewis 34 Desmond Tutu* 33 Tony Booth 33 Betty Ford 33 Bernie Nolan 33 Erich Priebke 33 Prunella Scales* 32 Peter O'Sullevan 32 Eli Wallach 31 Valery Giscard d'Estaing* 31 Hugh Hefner 31 Mikhail Kalashnikov 30 Ian Brady 30 Denis Healey 29 Jacques Chirac 29 Liz Dawn 29 Stephen Hawking 29 Lady Bird Johnson 28 Anna Wing 27 Johnny Clegg 27 Mikhail Gorbachev 27 Dom Mintoff 27 Liz Smith 26 Gord Downie 26 Mark Felt 26 Charlton Heston 26 Dino de Laurentiis 26 Bobby Robson 26 Helmut Schmidt 26 Elizabeth Taylor 25 Honor Blackman* 25 Etta James 25 Jerry Stiller* 24 Stanley Baxter 23 John Demjanjuk 22 Sandy Gall 22 Robin Gibb 22 Patrick Moore 21 Queen Elizabeth II 21 Dennis Hopper 21 Little Richard 21 Alex Trebek* 21 Betty White* 20 Paul Gascoigne 20 Herbert Lom 20 Gough Whitlam 19 Tony Britton 19 Doris Day 19 Luise Rainer 19 Peter Sutcliffe* 18 John McCririck 18 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 18 Dick Van Dyke* 17 Joseph Barbera 17 Charles Haughey 17 Leon Spinks* 16 Patty Andrews 16 Albert Hofmann 16 Christopher Lee 16 Cliff Michelmore 16 John Noakes 15 Chuck Berry 15 Henry Cecil 15 P. D. James 15 Kim Jong-il 15 B.B. King 15 Patrick Macnee 15 Maureen O'Hara 15 Sidney Poitier 15 Neil Simon 15 Chris Woodhead 14 James Garner 14 Cleo Laine 14 Harper Lee 14 Tony Martin 14 Ian Paisley 14 David Prowse 14 Cyril Smith 13 Muhammad Ali 13 Abdelaziz Bouteflika* 13 Ray Bradbury 13 Wilko Johnson 13 Larry King 13 Jack Klugman 13 Shane MacGowan* 13 Barbara Walters 12 Doug Ellis 12 Alan Greenspan* 12 George Melly 12 Mary Tyler Moore 12 James Randi 12 Mickey Rooney 12 Ravi Shankar 11 Emperor Akihito* 11 Richard Attenborough 11 Gordon Banks 11 Ken Kercheval 11 Charles Lane 11 Eddie Large 11 Loretta Lynn 11 Harry Morgan 11 Robert Novak 11 J. D. Salinger 10 Ed Asner 10 Harry Belafonte* 10 June Brown 10 Gay Byrne 10 Blake Edwards 10 Laurent Fignon 10 Jean-Marie Le Pen* 10 Simon MacCorkindale 10 Bill Maynard 10 General Pinochet 10 Levi Stubbs 9 Basil D'Oliveira 9 Fergie Frederiksen 9 Bob Godfrey 9 Edward Kennedy 8 Angela Lansbury* 9 Peter O'Toole 8 Walter Cronkite 8 John Kenneth Galbraith 8 Ernest Gallo 8 Bob Hawke 7 Charles Aznavour 7 Lauren Bacall 7 Ingmar Bergman 7 George Cole 7 Jacques Delors* 7 Louis Farrakhan 7 Joni Mitchell 7 Linda Nolan 7 Robert M. Pirsig 7 David Rockefeller 7 Ian St John 7 Eric Sykes 7 Shaw Taylor 7 Simon Wiesenthal 7 Joanne Woodward* 6 Captain Beefheart 6 Barbara Bush 6 David Crosby* 6 John Edrich* 6 Vaclav Havel 6 Pervez Musharraf* 6 Olivia Newton-John 6 Carl Reiner* 6 Oral Roberts 6 George Steinbrenner 6 Bill Tarmey 6 Abe Vigoda 5 Ernest Borgnine 5 Sean Connery 5 William H Gates* 5 Jesse Helms 5 Geoffrey Hughes 5 Casey Kasem 5 Al Lewis 5 Dai Llewellyn 5 Imelda Marcos* 5 Willie Nelson* 5 Lester Piggott* 5 Francis Pym 5 Gerry Rafferty 5 Alfredo di Stefano 5 Frank Thornton 5 Tina Turner 4 Tariq Aziz 4 Frank Bough 4 Mel Brooks 4 Tommy Chong 4 Bill Deedes 4 Michael Douglas 4 Harlan Ellison 4 Aretha Franklin 4 Milton Friedman 4 Michael Gough 4 Terry Jones 4 Hamid Karzai 4 Ludovic Kennedy 4 Karl Malden 4 Les Paul 4 Jake "The Snake" Roberts 4 Pete Seeger 4 Elaine Stritch 3 Boutros Boutros-Ghali 3 Bo Diddley 3 John Forsythe 3 Diana Wynne Jones 3 Kirk Kerkorian 3 Ayatollah Ali Khamenei 3 Byron Nelson 3 Nicholas Parsons 3 Terry Pratchett 3 Reg Presley 3 Vanessa Redgrave 3 William Rehnquist 3 Richard Widmark 3 Michael Winner 2 Ruth Bader Ginsburg* 2 P. W. Botha 2 Arthur C. Clarke 2 Tony Curtis 2 Nigel Lawson 2 Vincent O'Brien 2 Rosa Parks 2 Rowdy Roddy Piper 2 Lou Rawls 2 Claire Rayner 2 Wendy Richard 2 Mark E. Smith 2 Aaron Spelling 2 Charles Taylor 2 Kurt Waldheim 2 Russell Watson 2 Ronnie Wood 2 Jane Wyman 2 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 1 David Attenborough* 1 Seve Ballesteros 1 Tony Bennett* 1 Dick Cheney* 1 Elizabeth Edwards 1 Tim Johnson 1 Jack Kevorkian 1 Stanley Kunitz 1 Ruby Muhammad 1 John Nash 1 Leonard Nimoy 1 Gore Vidal 1 Caspar Weinberger 1 Harry Belafonte* 0 Sid Caesar 0 Saif al-Islam Gaddafi 0 Edmund Hillary 0 Frankie Laine 0 Diego Maradona 0 John Profumo 0 Richard Pryor 0 Ian Smith 0 Peter Tork 174 188 poll results went into this. This is the very first one, which Ronnie Biggs won easily. In 2005. Edited April 2, 2020 by Clorox Bleachman 7 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clorox Bleachman 2,423 Posted July 20, 2019 Last but not least, I updated the list of longest surviving picks on Page 6. There are 18 fresh cadavers and a title change - Charles Aznavour, originally a 1990 alumnus, was the 10th hit of 2018. All three threads are rolling from now on. Promise I won't bump this thread for a wee while Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted July 21, 2019 21 hours ago, Clorox Bleachman said: @Predictor asked a while back who had received the most votes across all the "nth death of 20xx" polls. Well, here's the answer. Brackers is our strongest survivor, and with a bit of luck she could be the GOAT. She's beaten Kirk in under 3 years! Reveal hidden contents 471 Zsa Zsa Gabor 459 Billy Graham 341 Leah Bracknell* 283 NO MORE HITS 275 Kirk Douglas* 261 Herman Wouk 219 George Bush Sr 191 Clive Dunn 179 Ronnie Biggs 138 Olivia de Havilland* 136 King Michael of Romania 131 Abdelbaset al-Megrahi 123 Vera Lynn* 115 Oscar Niemeyer 114 Leslie Phillips 113 Bhumibol Adulyadej 113 Martin Crowe 112 Javier Perez de Cuellar* 111 Prince Philip* 108 Bob Dole* 107 Nelson Mandela 107 Margaret Thatcher 104 Peter Sallis 103 Robert Mugabe* 98 Clive James* 98 Sam Simon 92 Bruce Forsyth 87 Joāo Havelange 86 Denis Norden 80 Claude Levi-Strauss 75 General Jaruzelski 72 Norman Wisdom 70 Al Molinaro 70 Ariel Sharon 68 Stirling Moss* 66 Jake LaMotta 65 Errol Christie 64 Fidel Castro 62 Fats Domino 61 Glen Campbell 61 Valerie Harper* 61 Joost van der Westhuizen 60 John McCain 60 Nobby Stiles* 57 Chapman Pincher 56 Hosni Mubarak* 51 Stan Lee 51 Patrick Swayze 50 Pope Benedict XVI 50 Tammy Faye Messner 49 Jill Gascoine 48 Yitzhak Shamir 47 Peter Carrington 46 Nancy Reagan 45 Richard Adams 45 Brooke Astor 45 Pierre Cardin* 44 Gerald Ford 43 Bob Barker* 41 Hugo Chavez 40 Susan Atkins 40 Helmut Kohl 40 Suharto 39 Henry Kissinger* 37 Tessa Jowell 36 Jimmy Carter* 36 Sydney Pollack 35 Michael Foot 35 Harold Pinter 34 Jerry Lewis 33 Tony Booth 33 Betty Ford 33 Bernie Nolan 33 Erich Priebke 32 Peter O'Sullevan 32 Eli Wallach 31 Hugh Hefner 31 Mikhail Kalashnikov 30 Ian Brady 30 Denis Healey 29 Liz Dawn 29 Stephen Hawking 29 Lady Bird Johnson 28 Anna Wing 27 Johnny Clegg 27 Dom Mintoff 27 Liz Smith 26 Gord Downie 26 Mark Felt 26 Charlton Heston 26 Dino de Laurentiis 26 Bobby Robson 26 Helmut Schmidt 26 Elizabeth Taylor 26 Desmond Tutu* 25 Etta James 24 Stanley Baxter 24 Jimmy Greaves* 23 Jacques Chirac* 23 John Demjanjuk 22 Sandy Gall 22 Robin Gibb 22 Patrick Moore 21 Queen Elizabeth II 21 Dennis Hopper 21 Prunella Scales* 20 Paul Gascoigne 20 Herbert Lom 20 Gough Whitlam 19 Doris Day 19 Luise Rainer 18 John McCririck 18 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 17 Joseph Barbera 17 Charles Haughey 17 Murray Walker* 16 Patty Andrews 16 Albert Hofmann 16 Christopher Lee 16 Cliff Michelmore 16 John Noakes 15 Chuck Berry 15 Honor Blackman* 15 Henry Cecil 15 P. D. James 15 Kim Jong-il 15 B.B. King 15 Patrick Macnee 15 Maureen O'Hara 15 Neil Simon 15 Chris Woodhead 14 Dick Van Dyke* 14 James Garner 14 Valery Giscard d'Estaing* 14 Harper Lee 14 Tony Martin 14 Ian Paisley 14 David Prowse 14 Cyril Smith 14 Betty White* 13 Muhammad Ali 13 Ray Bradbury 13 Wilko Johnson 13 Jack Klugman 12 Doug Ellis 12 George Melly 12 Mary Tyler Moore 12 James Randi 12 Mickey Rooney 12 Ravi Shankar 11 Richard Attenborough 11 Gordon Banks 11 Ken Kercheval 11 Charles Lane 11 Eddie Large 11 Harry Morgan 11 Robert Novak 11 J. D. Salinger 11 Jerry Stiller* 10 Gay Byrne 10 Blake Edwards 10 Laurent Fignon 10 Simon MacCorkindale 10 Bill Maynard 10 General Pinochet 10 Levi Stubbs 9 Tony Britton* 9 Basil D'Oliveira 9 Fergie Frederiksen 9 Bob Godfrey 9 Mikhail Gorbachev* 9 Edward Kennedy 9 Cleo Laine* 9 Peter O'Toole 8 Walter Cronkite 8 John Kenneth Galbraith 8 Ernest Gallo 8 Bob Hawke 7 Emperor Akihito* 7 Charles Aznavour 7 Lauren Bacall 7 Ingmar Bergman 7 June Brown* 7 George Cole 7 Louis Farrakhan 7 Joni Mitchell 7 Linda Nolan 7 Robert M. Pirsig 7 David Rockefeller 7 Ian St John 7 Eric Sykes 7 Shaw Taylor 7 Barbara Walters* 7 Simon Wiesenthal 6 Captain Beefheart 6 Abdelaziz Bouteflika 6 Barbara Bush 6 Vaclav Havel 6 Olivia Newton-John 6 Little Richard* 6 Oral Roberts 6 George Steinbrenner 6 Bill Tarmey 6 Abe Vigoda 5 Ernest Borgnine 5 Sean Connery 5 Jesse Helms 5 Geoffrey Hughes 5 Casey Kasem 5 Al Lewis 5 Dai Llewellyn 5 Loretta Lynn* 5 Shane MacGowan* 5 Sidney Poitier* 5 Francis Pym 5 Gerry Rafferty 5 Alfredo di Stefano 5 Frank Thornton 4 Ed Asner* 4 Tariq Aziz 4 Harry Belafonte* 4 Frank Bough 4 Mel Brooks 4 Tommy Chong 4 Bill Deedes 4 Michael Douglas 4 John Edrich 4 Harlan Ellison 4 Aretha Franklin 4 Milton Friedman 4 Michael Gough 4 Alan Greenspan* 4 Hamid Karzai 4 Ludovic Kennedy 4 Larry King* 4 Angela Lansbury 4 Karl Malden 4 Les Paul 4 Jake "The Snake" Roberts 4 Pete Seeger 4 Elaine Stritch 3 Boutros Boutros-Ghali 3 Bo Diddley 3 John Forsythe 3 Diana Wynne Jones 3 Kirk Kerkorian 3 Ayatollah Ali Khamenei 3 Byron Nelson 3 Nicholas Parsons 3 Lester Piggott 3 Terry Pratchett 3 Reg Presley 3 Vanessa Redgrave* 3 William Rehnquist 3 Tina Turner* 3 Richard Widmark 3 Michael Winner 2 Ginger Baker* 2 P. W. Botha 2 Arthur C. Clarke 2 Tony Curtis 2 Nigel Lawson 2 Vincent O'Brien 2 Rosa Parks 2 Rowdy Roddy Piper 2 Lou Rawls 2 Claire Rayner 2 Wendy Richard 2 Mark E. Smith 2 Aaron Spelling 2 Charles Taylor 2 Kurt Waldheim 2 Russell Watson 2 Ronnie Wood 2 Jane Wyman 2 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 1 Seve Ballesteros 1 Tony Bennett 1 Dick Cheney 1 Elizabeth Edwards 1 Tim Johnson 1 Jack Kevorkian 1 Stanley Kunitz 1 Ruby Muhammad 1 John Nash 1 Leonard Nimoy 1 Gore Vidal 1 Caspar Weinberger 0 Sid Caesar 0 Saif al-Islam Gaddafi 0 Edmund Hillary 0 Frankie Laine 0 Diego Maradona 0 John Profumo 0 Richard Pryor 0 Ian Smith 0 Peter Tork 174 poll results went into this. This is the very first one, which Ronnie Biggs won easily. In 2005. Brilliant work, Clorox. Must've taken a lot of time and effort to make this. Leah's points is higher than I had expected, although her debut year (2017) had a record of 17 different polls. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,463 Posted August 20, 2019 Joey's subtle brag other day in the DDP got me thinking of how long folk have spent (cumulatively) in days at top of the DDP. Best, I can tell, it's something like this: 1. DDT -1204 days 2. Drunkasaskunk –844 3. TJS 660 3. Nick J - 579 (circa - 1996 records lost) 5. Otis – 544 6. Spade -504 7. OoO – 357 8. Golden Slumbers - 328 9. Go Fish - 277 10. Joe Ram - 255 11. Whittakers Choice – 237 12. Fallen Sparrow – 230 13. Heaven Knows They’re Miserable Now - 226 14. Meet your maker – 207 15. MT Graves -206 16. JoeyRuss 157 17. Groblers - 151 18. Ed K – 143 19. Rad Guy 139 20. Love Boat 136 21. Tonight Matthew - 135 22. One Foot in the Grave - 127 23. Tim R – 120 24. I Smell Dead People – 118 25. Drol – 108 26. Chorizo 106 27. Deathlist.net 92 28. Going Underground - 78 29. No Noose is Good Noose - 74 30. Hoppo – 68 31. Godot – 67 32 Pan Breed - 64 33. GUN Away - 59 34. Crazycarl -58 35. Dead Men Walking, Eejit – 57 36. Finnbarr - 55 37. Rude Kid, – 48 38. TMIB -47 39. Stab in the Dark 45 40. Pity Da Foolz - 40 41. Steve L – 39 42. Ghoulish Guesses – 36 43. Toast – 35 44. Rot in Hell John - 34 45. Mortal Wombat, Only Fools and Corpses, Caulkhead - 28 46. Death from Above, Taking the Michael, Ethnic Cleansing - 27 47. Dave J, Big Iain 26 48. ‘arry-kiri, Gawn – 23 49. Shameless - 21 50. Faster Pussycat – 20 51. Final Showdown – 19 52. This Mortal Coil - 15 53. Better you than me, The don, George lass, Girlfriend in a coma, Romancing the headstone, Umish, Unspiritualist, You Could be a Little Street Sweeper – 14 54. Doffin Codgers, Romancing the Headstone – 12 55. Puzlman’s, Noz4news, Already Dead, Shake Rattle Roll Over – 8 56. Canadian Paul, Destination Eschaton, Maryport - 7 57. Misers, Daniel Faradays Notebook – 6 58. Miss Chief, Juicy Janny, Inigo, Stardust, Stardust, Chemo Sabee, Loving Angels Instead – 5 59. Captain Hemlock, Dead last, Eternity Tours, Francis of Arse-Easy, Grim McGraw, Last of the Summer Winos - 4 60. Sumo, Jesus Jones, Robbinsdale High School Memorial, YOUREOUT, House of Soon to be with the Lord, Roasting Bodies in Redcar- 2 61. They Died.., Good Bad and Cliff Richard, Researched to Death, I’m a Celeb, Toast of the Turf, Paint the Town Dead, Tentoesup– 1 Last updated - 27th November 2020 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,975 Posted September 26, 2019 I notice that with Jacques Chirac's death, there's now a 26-year-gap in between the tenures of living French presidents (Giscard D'Estaing to Sarkozy). Definitely the longest gap for French presidents, but that begs the question of what the longest gap is, past or present, worldwide? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted September 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Death Impends said: I notice that with Jacques Chirac's death, there's now a 26-year-gap in between the tenures of living French presidents (Giscard D'Estaing to Sarkozy). Definitely the longest gap for French presidents, but that begs the question of what the longest gap is, past or present, worldwide? 38 years between Carter and Obama 48 ( 49 soon) years seems to be the best I can find. That's is ex Chancellor's of Austria. Sebastian kurz 33 and franz vranitzky 81 soon to be 82. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,227 Posted September 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, the_engineer said: 38 years between Carter and Obama 48 ( 49 soon) years seems to be the best I can find. That's is ex Chancellor's of Austria. Sebastian kurz 33 and franz vranitzky 81 soon to be 82. I think DI is talking about the gap between the tenures of living presidents, not their overall ages Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,975 Posted September 26, 2019 Yeah, for instance there's currently a gap of 12 years in the US since Carter is alive but Reagan and Bush Sr immediately after him are dead. The US record seems to be about 12 years and a month, as Millard Fillmore outlived Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, and Abraham Lincoln. Herbert Hoover, who outlived FDR, held a shorter gap than Fillmore by mere days. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Joey Russ said: I think DI is talking about the gap between the tenures of living presidents, not their overall ages Ahh right. Completely skipped over the word tenures and just saw 'gap' and 'living'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,463 Posted October 20, 2019 On 12/03/2018 at 07:29, Dead Wait said: Surely one of the shortest periods between Knighthood and death.......! So, when I was doing some work research I found a strong contender for this in the Herald archives. Sir Tam Galbraith, former Glasgow Tory MP (my family MP at one point in fact before my birth) was knighted 31st December 1981 when known to be gravely ill, and died 48 hours later. (Willz might recall this - Glasgow had 3 by-elections due to death in about 2 years!) Decided the Doddy thread was too dead to resurrect, but that this factoid was interesting enough to bring up on forum. So here it is. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,044 Posted October 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, msc said: So, when I was doing some work research I found a strong contender for this in the Herald archives. Sir Tam Galbraith, former Glasgow Tory MP (my family MP at one point in fact before my birth) was knighted 31st December 1981 when known to be gravely ill, and died 48 hours later. (Willz might recall this - Glasgow had 3 by-elections due to death in about 2 years!) Decided the Doddy thread was too dead to resurrect, but that this factoid was interesting enough to bring up on forum. So here it is. Not sure, around those couple of years it really was head down in the books, then heading to Strathclyde Uni during that period. Remember Jenkins getting elected though. Was more worried about being conscripted for the Falklands if it got out of hand. No way was I fighting for Thatcher's war! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny kiltrunner 553 Posted December 15, 2019 Interesting teaser about 5 year survival rates, although they are from people diagnosed in 2010 and 2011. Prostate cancer almost at 99% after 5 years! That's good news if you are a dude. https://www.ksby.com/news/national-news/national-cancer-center-researchers-find-survival-rates-for-different-types-of-cancer An interesting side note- I tried to find the original research article for more details, but the only National Cancer Centre I could find is in Singapore. There is a National Cancer Institute, but I couldn't find the article there. A more suspicious person might think this is Fake News. Can't believe I just said that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,725 Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Skinny kiltrunner said: Interesting teaser about 5 year survival rates, although they are from people diagnosed in 2010 and 2011. Prostate cancer almost at 99% after 5 years! That's good news if you are a dude. https://www.ksby.com/news/national-news/national-cancer-center-researchers-find-survival-rates-for-different-types-of-cancer An interesting side note- I tried to find the original research article for more details, but the only National Cancer Centre I could find is in Singapore. There is a National Cancer Institute, but I couldn't find the article there. A more suspicious person might think this is Fake News. Can't believe I just said that. Not such good news if you are my old school friend who's just been given an incurable stage 4 bladder cancer diagnosis where I think the 5 year survival rate is about 5%. I think the other thing that survival rates hide is the change in quality of life that cancer can bring whether you survive or not. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted December 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, Grim Up North said: Not such good news if you are my old school friend who's just been given an incurable stage 4 bladder cancer diagnosis where I think the 5 year survival rate is about 5%. I think the other thing that survival rates hide is the change in quality of life that cancer can bring whether you survive or not. Also we're getting better at finding cancers earlier, there's no evidence anybody actually lives any longer - just that they live longer after being diagnosed. Let that sink in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny kiltrunner 553 Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Kinnock said: Also we're getting better at finding cancers earlier, there's no evidence anybody actually lives any longer - just that they live longer after being diagnosed. Let that sink in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,463 Posted December 24, 2019 Hohoho, Merry Christmas. Here's the DL picks list from 2016 of types of pick, survival rates, likely future contenders, DL longevity, etc all updated to 24th December 2019. Spoiler tagged due to length... Spoiler "Each year we hear people say "Oh so and so should be on the list" and it made me wonder if we took the years and ages of every person in a profession to be on the Deathlist itself, could we then extrapolate the type of people who might be considered in 2017 and beyond? Almost certainly not, but never mind. " Answer in 2019 - it gave a ball park but not precision. Anyhow, on with the update... So I collated a list of debuts on Deathlist, separated by professions, and with the age they were given on the front page for their debut. ie: Actors 1987 – Clive Dunn, 67 1987 – Kenneth Connor, 71 1987 – Stewart Granger, 74 1987 – Jimmy Stewart, 79 1987 – Beryl Reid, 67 1987 – John Gielgud, 79 1987 – Anna Wing, 73 1987 – Bette Davis, 79 1987 – Laurence Olivier, 80 1987 – Alec Guinness, 69 1989 – Wilfred Bramble, DEAD (77 if alive) 1989 – George Cole, 64 1989 – Jon Pertwee, 70 1989 – William Hartnell, DEAD (81 if alive) 1989 – Peter Cushing, 76 1990 – John Mills, 82 1990 – Terry-Thomas, 79 1990 – Peter Ustinov, 69 1990 – Jill Ireland, 54 1990 – Katharine Hepburn, 83 1990 – George Burns, 94 1990 – Greta Garbo, 85 1991 – Arthur Mullard, 79 1991 – Joan Sims, 61 1991 – Zsa Zsa Gabor, 74 1991 – Don Ameche, 83 1992 – Burt Lancaster, 79 1992 – Marlene Deitrich, 91 1993 – Doris Speed, 94 1993 – Audrey Hepburn, 64 1993 – Tony Curtis, 68 1993 – Bill Bixby, 59 1993 – Dean Martin, 76 1993 – Gretchen Franklin, 82 1994 – Simon Cadell, 44 1994 – Victor Mature, 81 1994 – Anne Kirkbride,40 1994 – Telly Savalas, 70 1995 – Ginger Rogers, 84 1995 – Paul Eddington, 68 1995 – Sean Connery, 65 1996 – Larry Hagman, 65 1996 – Mr T, 44 1996 – Marlon Brando, 72 1997 – Anthony Quinn, 78 1997 – Norman Wisdom, 82 1997 – Mickey Rooney, 77 1997 – Burgess Meredith, 89 1997 – Gregory Peck, 81 1997 – Kirk Douglas, 81 1997 – Thora Hird, 86 1998 – Joan Hickson, 88 1998 – Fay Wray, 91 1998 – Roy Rogers, 82 1998 – Anne Haddy, 68 1999 – Deryck Guyler, 81 1999 – Douglas Fairbanks Jr, 90 2000 – Dudley Moore, 65 2000 – Walter Matthau, 76 2000 – Karl Malden, 88 2001 – Liza Minelli, 55 2001 – Eli Wallach, 86 2002 – Buddy Ebson, 94 2003 – Harry Morgan, 88 2003 – Jack Palance, 83 2004 – Herbert Lom, 87 2005 – Al Lewis, 95 2005 – Elizabeth Taylor, 73 2005 – Jane Wyman, 91 2005 – James Dooham, 85 2005 – Olivia de Havilland, 89 (5266) 2006 – Charles Lane, 101 2006 – Charlton Heston, 82 2007 - Ernest Borgnine, 90 2007 – John Forsythe, 89 2007 – Al Molinaro, 88 2007 – Abe Vigoda, 86 2008 – Richard Widmark, 94 2008 – Jack Klugman, 86 2009 – Patrick Swayze, 57 2009 – Wendy Richard, 66 2009 – Christopher Lee, 87 2010 – Simon MacCorkindale, 58 2010 – Dennis Hopper, 74 2010 – Frank Thornton, 89 2010 – Richard Attenborough, 87 2010 – Angela Lansbury, 75 2010 – James Garner, 82 2011 – Geoffrey Hughes, 67 2011 – Bill Tarmey, 70 2011 – Michael Douglas, 67 2011 – Michael Gough, 95 2012 – Patrick Macnee, 90 2012 – Dick van Dyke, 87 2013 – Peter Sallis, 92 2013 – Doris Day, 91 2013 – Elaine Stritch, 88 2013 – Peter O’Toole, 81 2014 – Luise Rainer, 104 2014 – Valerie Harper, 75 2014 – Sid Caesar, 92 2014 – Lauren Bacall, 90 2014 – Ed Asner, 85 2015 – Maureen O’Hara, 95 2015 – Leslie Philips, 91 2015 – Ken Kercheval, 80 2015 – Leonard Nimoy, 84 2015 – Liz Smith, 94 2015 – Bill Maynard, 87 2016 – Mary Tyler Moore, 80 2016 – Prunella Scales, 84 2017 – Tony Booth, 86 2017 – Leah Bracknell, 53 2017 – Betty White, 95 2017 – Jill Gascoine, 80 2017 – Honor Blackman, 92 2017 – David Prowse, 82 2017 – Liz Dawn, 78 2018 – Mel Brooks, 92 2018 – June Brown, 91 2019 – Jerry Stiller, 92 2019 – Vanessa Redgrave, 82 2019 – Sidney Poitier, 92 2019 – Tony Britton, 95 Average – 1987-2019- 83.8% Average – 2010-2019 -64.2% (down 20% on 2007-16) Verdict: Modern Deathlist still tends to go for the older actor. Only 3 picks have been under the age of 80 since 2014, and all 3 died (although Harper and Bracknell lasted a while). A glance suggests that the age of 90 is the lower limit for Age Related Picks in recent years. Those under it tended to have dementia or cancer, or are Ed Asner. Otherwise, you are looking for people born 1930 and earlier for 2020. Survival Rate – 12/42 for deadly debuts since 2009. Five Year Survival Rate (not including 2016-19 debutants): 39% Potential Deathlist future picks in next five years: Gene Hackman, Clint Eastwood, Patricia Routledge, Mark Eden, Christopher Plummer, Max von Sydow, Geoffrey Palmer. The Tony Britton pick opens the door for John Nettleton. Thoughts: The Deathlist committee had a nose for aged actresses about to snuff it. Maureen O'Hara, Lauren Bacall, Luise Rainer and Elaine Stitch all survived less than 20 months from their Deathlist debut. This was ominous news for Mary Tyler Moore and Liz Smith, but less so for canoe aficionado Prunella Scales. June Brown, Honor Blackman and Betty White have also put a spanner in this coincidence of late. They like a thespian just turned 80 odd, with a history of ill health, demons or frailty. Looking at those potentials for 2020 include Christopher Timothy, Martin Sheen and aging David Jason, none of whom seem like jumping on the DL quite yet… There's always been a heavy flow of new thespians so at least 2 new spots in 2020 will be taken by them. Sports-related peoples 1987 - John Arlott, 73 (cricket) 1987 – Don Bradman, 75 (cricket) 1987 – Harold Larwood, 82 (cricket) 1987 – Fred Davis, 82 (snooker) 1987 – Andrea de Cesaris, 28, (F1) 1987 – Dan Maskell, 79 (tennis) 1987 – Fred Perry, 78 (tennis) 1989 – Frank Bruno, 28 (boxing) 1989 – Bobby Robson, 56 (football) 1989 – Mike Ditka, 50 (American football) 1989 – David Jenkins, 40 (athletics) 1989 – Jim Joel, 94 (horse owner) 1989 – Sugar Ray Robinson, 68 (boxer) 1990 – Peter Allis, 59 (cricket) 1990 – Rex Williams, 57 (snooker) 1991 – Brian Clough, 56 (football) 1991 – Denis Compton, 73 (cricket) 1991 – Leighton Rees, 50 (darts) 1991 – Bob Paisley, 72 (football) 1991 – Leo Beenhakker, 49 (football) 1991 – Stanley Matthews, 72 (football) 1992 – Peter West, 72 (cricket) 1992 – Kitty Godfree, 96 (tennis) 1992 – Joe Fagan, 71 (football) 1992 – Vincent O’Brien, 75 (horse trainer) 1992 – Tom Finney, 70 (football) 1993 – Arthur Ashe, 50 (tennis) 1993 – Ray Kennedy, 36 (football) 1993 – Alf Ramsey, 69 (football) 1994 – John Curry, 44 (ice skating) 1994 – Gene Sarazan, 88 (golf) 1994 – Red Auerbach, 77 (basketball) 1994 – Brian Johnston, 82 (cricket) 1994 – Helen Wills Moody, 84 (tennis) 1994 – Peter Shilton, 45 (football) 1995 – Joe DiMaggio, 77 (baseball) 1996 – Tim Gulliksson, 45 (tennis) 1996 – Wilf Mannion, 74 (football) 1998 – Bunny Austin, 88 (tennis) 1998 – Sam Snead, 86 (golf) 1999 – Max Schmeling, 94 (boxer) 2000 – Don Budge, 82, (tennis) 2001 – Byron Nelson, 89 (golf) 2002 – Alex Higgins, 54 (snooker) 2003 – Barry Sheene, 53 (motorcyclist) 2005 – Diego Maradona, 45 (football) 2005 – Jake Lamotta, 84 (boxer) 2005 – Peter O’Sullevan, 87 (horse racing) (3238) 2006 – Alfredo di Stefano, 80 (football) 2006 – Muhmmad Ali, 64 (boxer) 2008 – Basil D’Oliveira, 77 (cricket) 2009 – Seve Ballesteros, 52 (golf) 2010 – John Edrich, 73 (cricket) 2010 – Laurent Fignon, 50 (cyclist) 2013 – Henry Cecil, 70 (horse owner) 2014 – Joost van der Westhuizen, 43 (rugby) 2015 – Martin Crowe, 53 (cricket) 2016 – Lester Piggott, 81 (horse riding) 2016 – Murray Walker, 93 (motorsports) 2016 – Jimmy Greaves, 76 (football) 2016 – Gordon Banks, 79, (football) 2016 – Paul Gascoigne, 49 (football) (4178) 2017 – Nobby Stiles, 75 (football) 2017 – Ian St John, 79 (football) 2017 – Errol Christie, 54 (boxer) 2018 – Stirling Moss, 89 (motorsports) average age 1987-2016 – 67.3 average age 2006-2016 – 72.3 Verdict: Deathlist has a strong streak in the last decade of picking out doomed sportsmen. The cancer riddden (or otherwise ailing) sportsperson has been a long standing vein of success for the Deathlist since its foundation. A mere 15% of all sports people picked prior to 2016 are still with us, and that includes some duff picks like Peter Shilton and Leo Beenhakker making that survival stat look more impressive than it is. Survival Rate (last decade) 8/14 Five Year Survival: 47.3% Potential Future Picks: Well, the rest of the 1966 England squad have a decent shot, especially Geoff Hurst (least ill of the lot?) and the Charlton brothers. Jackie Stewart another shoo in but again, not quite his time yet. A lack of MND/ALS sufferers might see a route for a Doddie Weir, but new and depressingly younger sportsmen are coming down with that every month. We're still only just reaching the point where most of the name footballers of the 60s/70s are starting to reach old age. Pele and Franz Beckenbauer have potential. But then, so did Cruyff. Thoughts: Golf and cricket seem on the wane here, and football is in. Although they do love their boxers, so watch out for the Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine to debut before long. Royalty/World Leaders 1987 – Queen Mother, 87 1987 – Ayatollah Khomeini, 86 1987 – Harold Wilson, 71 1987 – Ronald Reagan, 76 1989 – Nelson Mandela, 71 1989 – Ian Paisley, 63 1989 – Andreas Papandreou, 70 1990 – Manuel Noriega, 56 1990 – Queen Elizabeth II, 64 1990 – Kurt Waldheim, 72 1990 – Alexander Dubcek, 69 1990 – Boris Yeltsin, 59 1990 – Corazin Aquino, 57 1990 – Richard Nixon, 77 1991 – Saddam Hussein, 54 1991 – Deng Xiaoping, 89 1992 – Augusto Pinochet, 77 1992 – PW Botha, 76 1993 – Kim il Sung, 81 1993 – Erich Honecker, 81 1993 – Jim Callaghan, 81 1994 – Dr Hastings Banda, 92 1994 – Fidel Castro, 68 1994 – Yitzhak Shamir, 79 1994 – Idi Amin, 68 1994 – Alec Douglas-Home, 91 1995 – Francois Mitterand, 79 1995 – Prince Ranier, 72 1995 – Princess Alice, 94 1996 – Yassir Arafat, 67 1997 – President Mobutu, 67 1997 – Ted Heath, 81 1997 – Gerald Ford, 84 1998 - King Fahd, 66 1998 – Gen Jaruzelski, 75 1998 – Pol Pot, 64 1999 – King Hussain, 64 1999 – Vaclav Havel, 63 2001 – Queen Juliana, 92 2001 – Princess Margaret, 70 2002 – Charles Haughey, 77 2002 – Suharto, 81 2003 – King Taufa-ahau Tupou, 84 2004 – General Musharraf, 62 2004 – Dom Mintoff, 88 2004 – Robert Mugabe, 80 2005 – Hamed Karzai, 48 (3482) 2006 – Abdelaziz Bouteflika, 69 2006 – Margaret Thatcher, 81 2007 – Ariel Sharon, 79 2007 – Ian Smith, 89 2008 – Charles Taylor, 60 2009 – Kim Jong Il, 68 2011 – Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, 72 2011 – Helmut Schmidt, 93 2012 – Bhumibol Adulyadej, 85 2012 – Hosni Mubarak, 84 2013 – Hugo Chavez, 59 2013 - George Bush Sr, 89 2013 – Gough Whitlam, 97 2015 – Helmut Kohl, 85 2016 – Jimmy Carter, 92 2016 – Jacques Chirac, 84 (4768) 2017 - King Michael of Romania, 96 2017 – Akihito, 84 2018 – Valery Giscard d’Estaing, 92 2019 – Bob Hawke, 90 2019 – Mikhail Gorbachev 88 Verdict: Another steady line of Deathlist picks. It seems if you were in charge of a big enough country, and you live long enough, you'll find your spot at some time. Though out with the US/UK, it does help to be noteworthy. “Valery d'Estang is pushing 90, but who remembers him?” is what I said in 2016, and guess who did remember him, but the Deathlist Cmme! World Leaders tend to have staying power. Once they make the list, they tend to bed sit until they snuff it. Survival rate (2010-19): 6/15 Five Year Survival rate (1987-2015) - 60% Possible Future Picks: Most of these future picks are too young just now – the oldest living PM is John Major at 76. The oldest Presidents (after Jimmy) are that spate of 73 year olds, and you have to assume Billy wont make it to DL picking age. Crown Prince Salman and Mahmoud Abbas are maybes, and you never know when the Cmme will open drols big box of immortal dictators. Jean Chretien is mid-80s but very dull, and we’re still a while off the likes of John Howard and Gerhard Schroder being old or frail enough for contention. Non-Statesman Politicos 1989 – Cyril Smith, 61 (then – affable fat man. Now –dead paedo) 1990 – Lord Denning, 87 (mad judge) 1991 – Sir Michael Havers, 68 (Attorney general) 1991 – Lord Hailsham 80 (former Tory leadership candidate) 1991 – Willie Whitelaw, 71 (former Deputy PM) 1991 – John Smith, 53 (then Shadow Chancellor) 1993 – Henry Kissinger, 70 (diplomat) 1993 – Michael Foot, 80 (former Labour leader) 1994 – Jeremy Thorpe, 65 (former Liberal leader) 1996 – Julian Critchley, 66 (former MP) 1996 – Barbara Castle, 86 (Labour big wig) 1999 – Lord Scarman, 88 2003 – Strom Thurmond, 101 2005 – William Rehnquist, 81 2005 – Betty Ford, 87 2006 – Lady Bird Johnson, 94 2006 – John Profumo, 91 2006 – Caspar Weinberger, 89 2007 – Tim Johnson, 61 2008 – Elizabeth Edwards, 59 2008 – Jesse Helms, 87 2008 – Francis Pym, 86 2009 – Edward Kennedy, 77 2009 – Nancy Reagan, 88 2010 – Denis Healey, 93 2011 – Bob Dole, 88 2011 – Dick Cheney, 70 2012 – Nigel Lawson, 80 2012 – Tariq Aziz, 76 2012 – Saif al-islam Gaddafi, 40 2013 – Mikhail Kalashnikov, 94 2013 – Prince Philip, 92 2014 – Chris Woodhead, 68 2014 – Lord Carrington, 95 2014 – Javier Perez de Cuellar, 94 2016 – Boutros Boutros-Ghali, 94 2018 – John McCain, 82 2018 – Tessa Jowell, 71 2018 – Barbara Bush, 93 Verdict: The politicos who weren't world leaders. Tends to start at 88 these days unless health conditions known. If you are a British Cabinet minister with known pancreatic cancer or glioblastoma like the late Tessa Jowell, welcome to the team. Survival Rate (2010-19) - 40% (same as in 2016, with 9 out of 15 dying over the decade…) Five Year Survival: 48.5% Possible future Picks: Betty Boothroyd, Walter Mondale, Douglas Hurd, John Hume, Shirley Williams. There's also Rosalynn Carter, who will be 93 next year. Art 1987 – Salvador Dali, 83 1997 – Henri Cartier-Bresson, 90 (photography) 2000 – Charles Schultz, 78 (cartoonist) 2001 – William Hanna, 89 (cartoonist) 2002 – Chuck Jones, 90 (cartoonist) 2002 – Joseph Barbera, 91 (cartoonist) 2002 – Oscar Niemeyer, 95 (architect) 2009 – Pierre Cardin, 87 2011 – Bob Godfrey, 90 (cartoonist) 2013 – Stan Lee, 91 (comics) Verdict: This is not my area of expertise. Survival Rate: 10% Five Year: 20% Potential Future Picks: Err... Rolf Harris? I’ll get my coat. TV personalities 1987 – Johnny Morris, 67 (kids entertainer) 1987 – Les Dawson, 56 (comic) 1987 – Bob Hope, 84 (comic) 1987 – Jimmy Saville, 61 1989 – Magnus Pyke, 81 (wacky scientist) 1989 – Jacques Costeau, 79 (marine) 1989 – Stanley Unwin, 78 (inventor of a nonsense language) 1989 – Malcolm Muggeridge, 86 (professional TV Devils Advocate) 1989 – Kenneth Kendall, 65 (newsreader) 1990 – Ronnie Barker, 61 (comic) 1990 – Oprah Winfrey, 36 1991 – Patrick Moore, 68 (astronomer) 1991 – Bernard Manning, 61 (fat comic) 1992 – Glyn Worsnip, 47 (tv presenter) 1992 – Arthur Marshall, 82 1992 – Jack Hargreaves, 81 (tv presenter) 1992 – Robert Dougall, 79 (newsreader) 1992 – Walter Cronkite, 76 (newsreader) 1993 – Victor Borge, 80 (comic) 1993 – Roy Castle, 61 (tv presenter) 1993 – Frank Muir, 73 1993 – Eric Sykes, 70 (comic) 1995 – Richard Pryor, 55 (comic) 1995 – Bruce Forsyth, 67 (presenter) 1998 – Spike Milligan, 80 1999 – Helen Rollasson, 40 (presenter) 1999 – Ernie Wise, 70 (comic) 2001 – Milton Berle, 93 (comic) 2001 – Harry Secombe, 76 2003 – Johnny Carson, 78 2004 – Rodney Dangerfield, 83 (comic) 2004 – Cliff Michelmore, 85 (tv presenter) 2005 – Jerry Lewis, 79 (comic) 2007 – Roddy Piper, 53 (wrestler) 2009 – Ludovic Kennedy, 90 2009 – Robert Novak, 78 2010 – Frank Bough, 77 2010 – Denis Norden, 88 2012 – James Randi, 84 (magician) 2013 – Clive James, 74 2014 – Sam Simon, 59 2014 – Casey Kasem, 82 2014 – Shaw Taylor, 90 2015 – Jake Roberts, 60 2015 – Eddie Large, 74 2016 – Tommy Chong, 78 2016 – Sandy Gall, 89 2016 – John Noakes, 82 2017 – Bob Barker, 94 2017 – Gay Byrne, 83 2018 – Stanley Baxter, 92 2019 – Barbara Walters, 90 2019 – John McCririck, 79 2019 – Larry King, 86 Thoughts: That's a right hodge podge of ages and reasons. Survival: 20% (down from 50% in 2016) Five Year: 53% Potential Future Picks: Bernard Cribbins. Writers 1987 – Barbara Cartland, 82 1993 – Charles Bukowski, 73 1993 – William Burroughs, 79 1994 – Catherine Cookson, 83 1994 – Hunter S Thompson, 57 1994 – Edmund White, 54 1995 – Geoffrey Dickens, 85 1995 – Arthur C Clarke, 78 1996 – Muriel Spark, 78 1996 – EW Swanton, 85 1996 – Bill Deedes, 83 1998 – Arthur Miller, 83 1998 – Alexander Solzhenitsyn, 80 2000 – John Diamond, 50 2001 – Brother Theodore, 93 2001 – Mary Wesley, 88 2001 – Chapman Pincher, 87 2001 – Herman Wouk, 86 2002 – Clement Stone, 100 2002 – Claude Levi-Strauss, 94 2006 – Stanley Kunitz, 101 2006 – Harold Pinter, 76 2006 – JD Salinger, 87 2007 – Gore Vidal, 82 2010 – Ray Bradbury, 90 2011 – Diana Wynne Jones, 77 2011 – Harlan Ellison, 77 2012 – Harper Lee, 86 2012 – PD James, 92 2013 – Richard Adams, 93 2014 – Terry Pratchett, 66 2016 – Robert M Pirsig, 88 2018 – Neil Simon, 91 Thoughts: Not enough of them. Although if they do get picked, best to read about them fast. Survival: 0% (0/33) Five Year Survival: 33% Future Picks: Short of Ill Health, Writers don't tend to show up until 90 or later, despite us apparently being doomed on the front page. Colin Dexter and Judith Kerr were never picked, but Len Deighton, John le Carre and if you like a ripping yarn, Clive Cussler and Jack Higgins are all still going. Musicians/Singers 1987 – Andre Segovia, 93 (guitarist) 1987 – Yehudi Menuhin, 71 (violinist) 1987 – Ozzy Osbourne, 39, (Ozzy Osbourne) 1987 – Paul McCartney, 45 (any one Beatle) 1987 – George Harrison, 43 (any one Beatle) 1987 – Ringo Starr, 47 (any one Beatle) 1989 – George Melly, 63 (jazz) 1989 – Brian Wilson, 47 (Beach Boys) 1989 – Stefan Grappelli, 81 (jazz) 1989 – Marti Caine, 44 1990 – Charles Aznavour, 66 1990 – Frank Sinatra, 71 1992 – Perry Como, 76 1992 – Shaun Ryder, 30 (Happy Mondays) 1993 – Tony Bennett, 67 1993 – John Lee Hooker, 71 1993 – George Chisholm, 78 1993 – Jerry Garcia, 51 1993 – Jerry Lee Lewis, 58 1994 – Holly Johnson, 34 (Frankie Goes to Hollywood) 1996 – Fats Domino, 68 1999 – Ian Dury, 50 1999 – Frankie Laine, 87 1999 – Carly Simon, 54 2000 – Johnny Cash, 68 2000 – Artie Shaw, 90 2002 – Lionel Hampton, 93 2002 – Benny Carter, 95 2003 – Warren Zevon, 56 2005 – Tony Martin, 92 2005 – Les Paul, 90 2006 – Lou Rawls, 71 2006 – Vera Lynn, 89 2008 – Russel Watson, 42 2008- Bo Diddley, 80 2008 – Levi Stubbs, 72 2008 – Captain Beefheart, 67 2009 – Ravi Shankhar, 89 2009 – BB King, 84 2010 – Peter Tork, 68 2011 – Gerry Rafferty, 64 2011 – Aretha Franklin, 69 2011 – Patty Andrews, 93 2011 – Fergie Frederiksen, 60 2012 – Etta James, 74 2012 – Robin Gibb, 63 2012 – Chuck Berry, 86 2013 – Bernie Nolan, 53 2013 – Reg Presley, 72 2013 – Pete Seeger, 94 2014 – Wilko Johnson, 67 2016 – Glen Campbell, 80 2017 – Gord Downie, 53 2018 – Linda Nolan, 59 2018 – Ronnie Wood, 71 2018 – Olivia Newton John, 70 2018 – Joni Mitchell, 75 2018 – Mark E Smith, 61 2019 – Harry Belafonte, 92 2019 – Cleo Laine, 92 2019 – Loretta Lynn, 87 2019 – Little Richard, 87 2019 – Tina Turner, 80 2019 – Shane MacGowan, 62 2019 – Ginger Baker, 80 2019 – Johnny Clegg, 66 Thoughts: They tend to show up for health reasons. Harry Belafonte and Cleo Laine are the only two in the last 5 years who debuted due to being ancient. Name music people or really ill relatively known ones, and if you can mix those two... In recent years, the 2016 effect has come into play, by which I mean the Cmme have overloaded with late 1930s to mid 1940s music A listers to try and catch those the encore runs out on. The success in this route has been shown by the fact that in the last three years, the debutant music hits have been the 3 young guys with cancer, and Ginger Baker. Survival: 33% Five Year Survival: 46% (rating improved by counting Any One Beatle as one...) Potential Future Picks: Any medium star who gets terminal cancer given Clegg. Grace Slick, the Rolling Stones, Macca and Ringo, Tom Jones, Nancy Sinatra, Simon and Garfunkel, Dylan, the living Beach Boys, Elton John, Led Zeppelin, Alice Cooper, Iggy Pop, Herb Alpert, Mikis Theodorakis, Burt Bacharach, Petula Clark, John Williams, Yoko Ono, Willie Nelson, Frankie Valli, Pat Boone, Shirley Bassey, Bill Withers, Cliff, Smokey Robinson, Crosby/Stills/Nash and Young, Chubby Checker, Carole King – not to be facetious, but the list of A list music people on that radar is bloody endless! Smaller Pools of Picks Spooks, Terrors and Other Suits 1989 – Peter Wright, 72 (Spycatcher) 2002 – Osama Bin Laden, 45 2002 – Joseph Bonanno, 97 2007 – Mark Felt, 94 2009 – Al Megrahi, 57 Radio folk 1989 – Ray Moore, 55 (presenter) 1991 – Alistair Cooke, 83 1995 – Kenny Everett, 50 2013 – Nicholas Parsons, 90 Business types 1989 – Lew Grade, 79 (TV big wig) 1992 – Bert Millichip, 78 (FA boss) 1995 – Fred Pontin, 89 (entrepreneur) 2000 – John Paul Getty Jr, 68 2001 – Estee Lauder, 95 2001 – Ernest Gallo, 92 (wine maker) 2005 – Brooke Astor, 103 (philanthropist) 2007 – Jack Kevorkian, 79 (euthanasia enthusiast) 2009 – Joao Havelange, 93 (IoC) 2009 – George Steinbrenner, 79 (NY Yankees owner) 2015 – Kirk Kerkorian, 98 2016 – Doug Ellis, 92 2017 – David Rockefeller, 102 Directors/Producers/Behind the Camera 1989 – Derek Jarman, 47 (director) 1997 – Billy Wilder, 91 (director) 2000 – Leni Riefenstahl, 98 (director) 2001 – Elia Kazan, 92 2001 – Stanley Kramer, 84 2006 – Ingmar Bergman, 88 2006 – Dino de Laurentiis, 88 2006 – Aaron Spelling, 83 2008 – Sydney Pollack, 74 2008 – Blake Edwards, 86 2013 – Michael Winner, 78 Future - Francis Ford Coppola. Religious Types 1990 – Mother Theresa, 80 1990 – Pope John Paul II, 70 2000 – Louis Farrakhan, 68 2001 – Desmond Tutu, 69 2002 – Maharishi Yogi, 91 2005 – Sister Lucia, 98 2006 – Billy Graham 88 2007 – Ruby Muhammad, 110 2007 – Tammy Faye Messner, 65 2007 – Oral Roberts, 89 2017 – Pope Benedict XVI, 90 Future – Pope Francis is getting up there for a TB survivor. Dalai Lama. Others that don't really fit into any of the above 1990 – Mary Whitehouse, 76 (Outraged of Tunbridge Wells) 1990 – Terry Waite, 51, (hostage) 1991 – Norman Willis, 60 (trade unionist) 1991 – Len Murray, 71 (trade unionist) 1992 – Dilys Powell, 91 (film critic) 1992 – Red Rum, 27, (horse) 1992 – Red Adair, 77 (fireman) 1992 – Lord Goodman, 72 (lawyer) 1993 – Rudolph Nureyev, 55 (ballet) 1993 – John Demjanjuk, 73 (Nazi) 1993 – Rose Kennedy, 103 (matriarch) 1993 – George Lineker, unborn child 1993 – Quentin Crisp, 81 (naked civil servant) 1994 – Jackie Mann, 89 (hostage) 1994 – Denis Thatcher, 79 (spouse) 1994 – Jeffrey Bernard, 62 (professional drunk) 1995 – Edmund Hillary, 76 (mountaineer) 1995 – Stan Flashma, 55 (tout) 1996 – Timothy Leary, 76 (drugs) 1996 – Lord Longford, 91 (permissive society) 1997 – James Earl Ray, 68 (assassin) 1998 – Hardy Amies, 89 (dress maker) 1998 – Simon Wiesenthal, 90 (Nazi hunter) 1999 – Evel Knievel, 61 (stuntman) 1999 – Nick Leeson, 32 (jail) 1999 – Milton Freidman, 87 (economist) 1999 – Thor Heyerdahl, 85 (explorer) 2000 – Ninette de Valois, 98 (ballet) 2000 – Ronnie Biggs, 71 (Deathlist Ambassador) 2001 – Jack Jones, 88 (trade unionist) 2002 – Albert Hoffman, 96 (creator of LSD) 2002 – Ian Brady, 64 (child murderer) 2002 – Edward Teller, 94 (Atom Bomb inventor) 2002 – JK Galbraith, 94 (economist) 2005 – Rosa Parks, 92 (civil rights) 2005 – Claire Rayner, 75 (Agony Aunt) 2009 – Susan Atkins, 61 (murderer) 2009 – Dai Llewellyn, 63 (socialite) 2010 – Erich Priebke, 97 (Nazi) 2013 – Stephen Hawking, 70 2015 – John Forbes Nash, 87 (economist) 2017 – Hugh Hefner, 91 (playboy) 2019 – Alan Greenspan, 93 (economist) People with 5 or more appearances on the Deathlist: 17 – Kirk Douglas 16 – Clive Dunn 14 –Ronald Reagan, Queen Mother 13 – Fidel Castro, Ronnie Biggs, Bob Hope, Jake Lamotta 12 –Eli Wallach, Pope John Paul II, Rev Billy Graham, Olivia de Havilland 11 – Michael Foot, Kurt Waldheim, Katharine Hepburn, Barbara Cartland, Vera Lynn 10 – Zsa Zsa Gabor, Gen. Pinochet, John Mills, Alistair Cooke, Don Bradman 9 –Oscar Niemeyer, Yitzhak Shamir, John Demjanjuk, Princess Alice, John Gielgud, Lord Denning, Fats Domino 8-, Chapman Pincher, Mickey Rooney, Nelson Mandela, Herbert Lom, Patrick Moore, Simon Wiesenthal, Jim Callaghan, Red Adair, Jacques Cousteau, Herman Wouk 7 – Bob Dole, Prince Philip, Henry Kissinger, Al Molinaro, Norman Wisdom, Claude Levi-Strauss, Karl Malden, Albert Hofmann, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Max Schmeling, Fay Wray, Boris Yeltsin, Alec Guinness, Deng Xiaoping, Jimmy Stewart, George Burns 6 – Denis Healey, Peter O’Sullevan, Margaret Thatcher, Eric Sykes, Ariel Sharon, Betty Ford, Ernest Gallo, Gerald Ford, PW Botha, Lord Longford, Frank Sinatra, Mother Theresa, Jerry Lewis, Ian Brady, George Bush Sr, Denis Norden, Robert Mugabe ,Javier Perez de Cuellar, Hosni Mubarak, Clive James 5 – Joao Havelange, Nancy Reagan, Helmut Schmidt, Anna Wing, Elizabeth Taylor, Dom Mintoff, Dino de Laurentiis, Cyril Smith, Suharto, Bill Deedes, Joseph Barbera, Henri Cartier-Bresson, Lord Scarman, Hardy Amies, Thora Hird, Billy Wilder, Lord Hailsham, Gene Sarazan, Helen Wills Moody, Catherine Cookson, Glyn Worsnip, Harold Larwood, Derek Jarman, Peter Sallis, Stan Lee, Pierre Cardin, Valerie Harper Biggest Misses Patrick Moore (8 appearances) d. 2012 Boris Yeltsin (7 appearances) d. 2007 Alec Guinness (7 appearances) d. 2000 Ariel Sharon (6 appearances) d. 2014 Dom Mintoff (5 appearances) d. 2012 (This is why we have "bedblockers") Number of People with 5 or more appearances per year: 1993 – 2 (Dunn, Queen Mother) 1994 – 6 (Jarman, Burns, Queen Mother, Cartland, Cousteau, Dunn) 1995 - 12 (Xiaoping, Burns, Gielgud, Cartland, Larwood, M Theresa, Reagan, Queen Mother, J Stewart, Denning, Cousteau, Hope) 1996 – 11 (Xiaoping, Burns, Cartland, Denning, Queen Mother, Reagan, J Stewart, Worsnip, Bradman, Cousteau, Hope) 1997 – 17 (Xiaoping, M Theresa, Queen Mother, Sinatra, Reagan, Pinochet, Cousteau, J Stewart, Gielgud, Hope, Guiness, Cartland, Denning, Bradman, Hepburn, Dunn, Adair) 1998 – 16 (Pope, Yeltsin, Queen Mother, Sinatra, Reagan, Gielgud, Cartland, Denning, Hope, Moody, Cookson, Bradman, Guinness, Adair, Waldheim, Hepburn) 1999 - 14 (Pope, Yeltsin, Queen Mother, Reagan, Gielgud, Cartland, Denning, Hope, Bradman, Guinness, Sarazan, Cooke, Hepburn, Pinochet) 2000 – 15 (Queen Mother, Pope, Yeltsin, Reagan, Gieldgud, Cartland, Hope, Bradman, Longford, Cooke, Hepburn, Pinochet, Alice, Dunn, Mills) 2001 – 11 (Bradman, Queen Mother, Hope, Alice, Longford, Hepburn, Hailsham, Cooke, Mills, Pope, Reagan) 2002 – 13 (Queen Mother, Hope, Wilder, Alice, Hepburn, Wray, Cooke, Wiesenthal, Pope, Reagan, Mills, Callaghan, Waldheim) 2003 - 15 (Hope, Pope, Schmeling, Alice, Wray, Hepburn, Cooke, Mills, Wiesenthal, Amies, Reagan, Hird, Callaghan, Adair, Waldheim) 2004 – 17 (Pope, Wray, Schemling, Reagan, Wiesenthal, Foot, Alice, Mills, Cartier-Bresson, Cooke, Scarman, Callaghan, Adair, Pinochet, Waldheim, Rooney, Dunn) 2005 – 11 (Pope, Biggs, Schmeling, Wiesenthal, Mills, Callaghan, Ford, Foot, Pinochet, Botha, Waldheim) 2006 – 13 (Biggs, Hofmann, Gallo, Moore, Barbera, Ford, Foot, Botha, Waldheim, Solzhenitsyn, Rooney, Pinochet, Dunn) 2007 – 15 (Castro, Hofmann, Foot, Biggs, Levi-Strauss, Gallo, Deedes, Malden, Wallach, Douglas, Solzhenitsyn, Waldheim, Demjanjuk, Moore, Dunn) 2008 - 16 (Hofmann, Biggs, Niemeyer, Levi-Strauss, Wisdom, Foot, Castro, Malden, Wallach, Shamir, Solzhenitsyn, Douglas, Demjanjuk Suharto, Moore, Dunn) 2009 – 16 (Biggs, Niemeyer, Levi-Strauss, Foot, Malden, Wallach, Castro, Wisdom, Shamir, Douglas, Lom, Demjanjuk, Lamotta, Rooney, Moore, Dunn) 2010 – 18 (Biggs, Niemeyer, Foot, Wallach, Wisdom, Castro, Douglas, Shamir, Ford, Lom, Graham, de Laurentiis, Mandela, Demjanjuk, Lamotta, Sykes, Smith, Dunn) 2011 – 15 (Biggs, Gabor, Niemeyer, Douglas, Shamir, Ford, Lamotta, Taylor, Pincher, Wallach, Mandela, Mintoff, Lom, Sharon, Dunn) 2012 – 19 (Biggs, Niemeyer, Wallach, Douglas, Gabor, Graham, Pincher, Shamir, de Havilland, Lom, Thatcher, Castro, Mandela, Demjanjuk, Lamotta, Sykes, Domino, Sharon, Dunn) 2013 – 14 (Biggs, Pincher, Gabor, Wallach, Mandela, Douglas, de Havilland, Castro, Lynn, Thatcher, Graham, Molinaro, Lamotta, Domino) 2014 – 16 (Graham, Wallach, Gabor, Pincher, De Havilland, Healey, Castro, Lynn, O’Sullevan, Douglas, Molinaro, Rooney, Lamotta, Lewis, Domino, Brady) 2015 – 11 (Gabor, Graham, De Havilland, Healey, Schmidt, Castro, Douglas, Molinaro, O’Sullevan, Lamotta, Lynn) 2016 - 12 (Gabor, Havelange, de Havilland, Graham, Wouk, Douglas, Reagan, Kissinger, Lynn, Castro, Domino, lamotta) 2017 – 14 (Douglas, Lynn, Graham, Sallis, Philip, Norden, de Havilland, Wouk, Dole, Lamotta, Bush Sr, Lewis, Domino, Brady) 2018 – 15 (Douglas, Wouk, de Havilland, Philip, Graham, JPDC, Lee, Dole, V Lynn, Mugabe, Bush Sr, Kissinger, Mubarak, Norden, C James) 2019 - 13 (Douglas, Wouk, de Havilland, Philip, Lynn, Mugabe, Cardin, Dole, Kissinger, JPDC, Mubarak, Harper, James) 2020 potentially 13 (Douglas, de Havilland, Philip, Lynn Cardin, Dole, Kissinger, JPDC, Mubarak, Tutu, van Dyke, Carter, Leslie Philips Deaths of People with 5 or more appearances on Deathlist per year: 1994 - 1 1995 - 1 1996 - 2 1997 - 4 1998 - 3 1999 - 2 2000 - 2 2001 - 3 2002 - 2 2003 - 4 2004 - 7 2005 - 5 2006 - 4 2007 - 3 2008 - 3 2009 - 2 2010 - 4 2011 - 2 2012 - 6 2013 - 4 2014 - 3 2015 - 4 2016 – 4 2017 – 5 2018 – 4 2019 – 4 (to 24th December) 2020 outlook (years on DL): 18 – Kirk Douglas 13 –, Olivia de Havilland 12 –Vera Lynn 8 – Bob Dole, Prince Philip, Henry Kissinger, 7 –,Javier Perez de Cuellar, Hosni Mubarak, 6 –Pierre Cardin, 5. Leslie Philips (?), Dick Van Dyke (?), Jimmy Carter (?), Desmond Tutu (?) 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted December 24, 2019 Quote Art 1987 – Salvador Dali, 83 1997 – Henri Cartier-Bresson, 90 (photography) 2000 – Charles Schultz, 78 (cartoonist) 2001 – William Hanna, 89 (cartoonist) 2002 – Chuck Jones, 90 (cartoonist) 2002 – Joseph Barbera, 91 (cartoonist) 2002 – Oscar Niemeyer, 95 (architect) 2009 – Pierre Cardin, 87 2011 – Bob Godfrey, 90 (cartoonist) 2013 – Stan Lee, 91 (comics) Verdict: This is not my area of expertise. Survival Rate: 10% Five Year: 20% Potential Future Picks: Err... Rolf Harris? I’ll get my coat. Rolf Harris is a valid suggestion, but I'd add David Hockney. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,581 Posted December 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Toast said: Rolf Harris is a valid suggestion, but I'd add David Hockney. Jasper Johns & Jack Vettriano Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewsky1211 4,744 Posted January 1, 2020 Here's the stats for the 2020 names. Age (Youngest to Oldest) 49- Tom Smith 63- Shane MacGowan 67- Leon Spinks 70- Genesis P-Orridge 74- Peter Sutcliffe 77- Pervez Musharraf 78- Nobby Stiles, Terry Jones 79- Dick Cheney, David Crosby 80- Alex Trebek 83- John Edrich, Abdelaziz Bouteflika 85- Lester Piggott 87- Emperor Akihito, Willie Nelson, Ruth Bader Ginsburg 88- Prunella Scales 89- Desmond Tutu 90- Joanne Woodward 91- Stirling Moss, Imelda Marcos 92- Hosni Mubarak, Jean-Marie Le Pen 93- Harry Belafonte, Jerry Stiller 94- Alan Greenspan, Valery Giscard d'Estaing, Tony Bennett, David Attenborough 95- Dick Van Dyke, Angela Lansbury, Honor Blackman, Jacques Delors, Bill Gates Sr. 96- Daniel arap Moi, Jimmy Carter, Leslie Phillips 97- Bob Dole, Murray Walker, Bob Barker, Henry Kissinger 98- Pierre Cardin, Betty White, Carl Reiner 99- Prince Philip 100- Javier Perez de Cuellar 103- Vera Lynn 104- Kirk Douglas, Olivia de Havilland Most common age: 95 (5 names) Number of appearances (Fewest to most) 1 (debuters)- Daniel arap Moi, Leon Spinks, Genesis P-Orridge, Jacques Delors, Willie Nelson, Alex Trebek, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Imelda Marcos, Carl Reiner, Joanne Woodward, David Crosby, Tom Smith, Terry Jones, Jean-Marie Le Pen, Bill Gates Sr., David Attenborough, Peter Sutcliffe 2- Angela Lansbury, Alan Greenspan, Harry Belafonte, Jerry Stiller, Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Shane MacGowan, Dick Cheney, Lester Piggott, Pervez Musharraf 3- Emperor Akihito, Murray Walker, Valery Giscard d'Estaing, Tony Bennett, Nobby Stiles, Stirling Moss, John Edrich 4- Betty White, Bob Barker, Honor Blackman, Prunella Scales 5- Dick Van Dyke, Jimmy Carter, Leslie Phillips, Desmond Tutu 6- Pierre Cardin 7- Javier Perez de Cuellar, Hosni Mubarak 8- Prince Philip, Bob Dole, Henry Kissinger 12- Vera Lynn 13- Olivia de Havilland 18 (widening record gap)- Kirk Douglas Most common number of appearances: 1 (17 names) Debut Year 2020: Daniel arap Moi, Leon Spinks, Genesis P-Orridge, Jacques Delors, Willie Nelson, Alex Trebek, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Imelda Marcos, Carl Reiner, Joanne Woodward, David Crosby, Tom Smith, Terry Jones, Jean-Marie Le Pen, Bill Gates Sr., David Attenborough, Peter Sutcliffe 2019: Alan Greenspan, Harry Belafonte, Jerry Stiller, Shane MacGowan 2018: Valery Giscard d'Estaing, Stirling Moss 2017: Emperor Akihito, Betty White, Bob Barker, Honor Blackman, Nobby Stiles 2016: Murray Walker, Jimmy Carter, Prunella Scales, Lester Piggott 2015: Leslie Phillips 2014: Javier Perez de Cuellar 2013: Prince Philip 2012: Dick Van Dyke, Hosni Mubarak 2011: Bob Dole, Dick Cheney 2010: Angela Lansbury, John Edrich 2009: Pierre Cardin 2006: Vera Lynn, Abdelaziz Bouteflika 2005: Olivia de Havilland 2004: Pervez Musharraf 2001: Desmond Tutu 1997: Kirk Douglas 1993: Henry Kissinger, Tony Bennett 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,227 Posted January 6, 2020 So, I was a bit bored, and was trying to think of ideas. Then something popped into my head. Why not make a list of names that were picked by the winning team of each year. Doesn’t matter if they died that year, lived, didn’t get a QO, or (in one case) die before ddp action but wasn’t known until afterwards. As long as they appear on the winning team as mentioned on the ddp site (so no Mark Crispin, for example), they’re fine. So the list goes as follows... 1. John Andretti 2. Frankie Banali Kidding. You mean, I can’t have a little bit of fun every now and then? Ah well, he’s the actual list compiled then, from 2000 to 2021: Claudio Abbado Colette Adams George Alagiah Awad Hamed al-Bandar Jose Alencar Fatima Ali Princess Alice Abdelbaset Al Megrahi Henry Allingham Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti Baba Amte Savvas Andrea Guilio Andreotti Mother Angelica René Angelil Peter Angelos Hassan Asif Brooke Astor Susan Atkins Bunny Austin Cardinal Corrado Bafile John Bain Tammy Faye Bakker Messner Lesley Ball Seve Ballesteros Frankie Banali Hugo Banzer Amiri Baraka Ady Barkan Gerard Basset Susan Bayh Charlie Bell Yahweh Ben Yahweh Bob Benmosche Jana Bennett Hans Bethe Ronnie Biggs Tim Bilton Osama Bin Laden Russell Bishop Steve Blackmore Kathleen Blanco Hugo Bleicher Colin Bloomfield Leah Bracknell Ian Brady Traci Braxton G Monty Brinson Dora Bryan Ryan Buell Gary Burgess Mike Burney Rob Burrow Colin Butts Sid Caesar Menzies Campbell Matt Cappotelli Rudi Carrell Henri Cartier Bresson Barbara Castle Fidel Castro Henry Cecil Julia Child Errol Christie Archbishop Christodoulos Billy Clayton Johnny Clegg Van Cliburn Kenny Collins Tim Conway Alistair Cooke Sara Coward Simon Cowell (wildlife) Bettino Craxi Martin Crowe Patrick Cryne Hugues Cuenod Right Reverend Ian Cundy Paul Daisley Rodney Dangerfield Dai Davies Ross Davidson Miguel de la Madrid Ninette de Valois Michel Delpech Little Jimmy Dickens Christy Dignam Roberto Dinamite Ronnie James Dio Jenny Diski Larry Dobie Shannon Doherty Bob Dole Chris Doleman Basil D’Oliveira Sara Douglass Gord Downie Mikey Dread Ronnie Drew Janez Drnovsek Mickey Duff Patricia C Dunn Ian Dury Bobby Eaton Bulent Ecevit Gertrude Ederle Abdul Sattar Edhi Luis Echeverría Álvarez Yosra El Essawy Rayya Elias Bob Ellis Peter Esterhazy Steve Evans King Fahd of Saudi Arabia Andrew Fairlie Jessica Falkholt Sally Farmiloe Danny Federici Joey Feek Thomas Fekete W Mark Felt Pete Felton Major Ronald Ferguson Geraldine Ferraro Kristina Fetters Frank Field Laurent Fignon Tom Finney Danny Fiszman Brian Flowers Michael Foot Betty Ford Douglas Forewood Bruce Forsyth Aretha Franklin Bonnie Franklin Pete Frates Marie Fredriksson John Kenneth Galbraith Ernest Gallo Robin Gibb Althea Gibson Ahmad “Real” Givens John Glover Jerome Golmard Vanessa Goodwin Jade Goody Elvis Gordon John Gotti Reverend Billy Graham Kate Granger Josie Grove David Gulpilil Lachhiman Gurung David Hagen Dan Haggerty Luke Halpin Anne Hamilton-Byrne Mariam Hamza Sarah Harding Valerie Harper Pat Harrington Jr Rolf Harris Ernie Harwell Charles Haughey Brian Haw Lee Hazlewood Jeff Healey Brian Henderson Katherine Hepburn Genaro Hernandez Raymond Hewlett Steve Hewlett Alex Higgins John Higgins Sr Lauren Hill Edmund Hillary Christopher Hitchens Jock Hobbs Albert Hoffman Claire Hollingworth Bob Hope Dennis Hopper Paul Hunter Ratu Iloilo Johnnie Irwin Clive James Deborah James Etta James Sandy Jardine Roy Jenkins Kai Johansen Pope John Paul II Wilko Johnson Winnie Johnson Terry Jones Phillip Jones Griffiths Princess Juliana of the Netherlands Mikhail Kalashnikov Ritchii Kara Mick Karn Casey Kasem George Kennan Senator Edward Kennedy Eunice Kennedy Shriver Lee Kerslake Dr Jack Kevorkian Ayatollah Ali Khamenei Rowena Kincaid Sonia Kinsella Joseph Kony Lee Kreindler Stanley Kunitz Burt Kwouk Frankie Laine Tom Landry Eestee Lauder Peggy Lee Grace Lee Boggs Helen Legh Claude Levi-Strauss Devin Lima Rush Limbaugh Floyd Little Sir Dai Llewellyn Tony Lobinger Jon Lord Nat Lofthouse Charlie Louvin Tom Lubbock Lisa Lynch Simon MacCorkindale Charles Madden Lisa Magill Nelson Mandela Spanky Manikan Diego Maradona Princess Margaret Howard Marks Penny Marshall Pat Martino Walter Matthau Ernst Mayr John McCain Andrew McGahan Frank McGarvey Tracy McGiffin Dr Anne McPherson Steve McMichael Victor Mears Baitullah Mehsud George Melly Carlos Menem Litsa Menounos Bruno Metsu King Michael of Romania Liam Miller Sir John Mills Andrew Millwall Shih Ming-Teh Ryan Minor Rochus Misch Xolile Mngeni Dudley Moore George Moore Edwin Morgan Ruby Muhammad Gerd Muller Faustino Sainz Munoz Marlise Munoz Alice Munro Donald Neilson Catherine Nevin Nightbirde Lee Noble Linda Nolan Robert Novak Brian O’Connor Sir Angus Ogilvy Kazuo Ohno Norm O’Neill Anthonia Onuoha Norman Painting Frank Pakenham Jack Pardee Tom Parker Benny Parsons Patriarch Pavle Luciano Pavarotti Pelé George Perez Vicky Phelan Abbe Pierre Augusto Pinochet Harold Pinter Rosemary Pitman Nigel Plews Sidney Pollack Genesis P-Orridge Reg Presley Ray Price Sutopo Purwo Nugroho Queen Mother Bhandari Ram Jack Ramsay Lou Rawls Ronald Reagan William Rehnquist Julia Reichert Paul Revere Wendy Richard Simon Ricketts Fernando Ricksen Alain Robert Oral Roberts Sir Bobby Robson Johnny Ruffo Ibrahim Rugova Qaboos bin Said Al Said of Oman Yoo Sang-Chul Malam Bacai Sanha Cicely Saunders Maximillian Schell Joe Schlesinger Max Schmelling Charles Schulz Jock Scot Stuart Scott Roger Scruton Harry Secombe Mike Sertich Mutulu Shakur Yitzhak Shamir Ariel Sharon Artie Shaw Hartley Shawcross Barry Sheene Carol Shields Sadhana Shivdansi Ronald J Shurer King Sihanouk Pran Sikand Margaret Simey Roger Simon Sam Simon Mark Sims Peter Skellern Percy Sledge Andrew Smith (Russell T Davies partner, not the young basketball player in 2016) Cyril Smith Ian Smith Tom Smith Pat Smullen Chris Snow Tony Snow Mario Soares John Spencer Wendy Jo Sperber Leon Spinks Norman Spinrad Dr Willie Stanton Lee Starkey Bill Steel Stefan Karl Stefansson Susie Steiner Lynne Stewart Nobby Stiles Mel Stottlemyre Sr Leslie Strathie Julie Strain Jim Stynes Bert Sugar Suharto Steve Sumner Patrick Swayze Bill Tarmey Teresa Taylor Lord Norman Tebbit Eddie Thompson Jeremy Thorpe Robert Tisch Jane Tomlinson Isabel Torres Kris Travis Alex Trebek Jean-Louis Trintignant King Tupou V Sir Peter Ustinov Mehmed Uzun Hendrikje van Andel Schipper Frank Van Den Bleeken Joost van der Westhuizen Paul Van Zandvliet Jhon “Popeye” Velazquez Gianluca Vialli Dick Vitale Bill Walsh Wendy Wasserstein Tom Weiskopf Don West John Wetton James Whale Suzanne Whang Simon Wiesenthal Mike Willesee Alyson Williams Anne Williams Ted Williams Sidney Noel Wiltshire Sir Norman Wisdom John Wodehouse Sheb Wooley Fay Wray Sister Catherine Wybourne David Wynne Diana Wynne Jones Masao Yoshida James R Young Warren Zevon Chen Ziming Robert Zimmer Zhao Zhiyang Rachel Zoll Jorge Zorreguieta I wonder if anyone might make a theme team from the surviving members. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,227 Posted January 7, 2020 On 29/12/2018 at 17:36, Joey Russ said: An interesting thing that came in my head: how many countries have your DDP hits come from. So far, I have gotten 10 countries from my hits: UK, US, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Ireland, Iceland, South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Syria. Wonder if I’ll get any new countries next year... Since then France, Pakistan, Indonesia, and the Netherlands can be added to the list... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,463 Posted January 19, 2020 (1996) 1. Nick J in 1996 – all records lost (1997) 2. 12th January 1997 – Nick J – Jill Summers 3. 10th February 1997 – Steve L – Brian Connolly 4. 21st March 1997 – Nick J – Rev Awdrey - WINNER (1998) 5. 21st January 1998 – Drunkasaskunk – Jack Lord 6. 6th February 1998 – Drunkasaskunk/Hoppo – Carl Wilson 7. 15th April 1998 – Drunkasaskunk – Pol Pot - WINNER (1999) 8. 7th February 1999 – Dave J/Sumo/Jesus Jones - King Hussein of Jordan 9. 9th February 1999 – Dave J/Drunkasaskunk – Bryan Mosley and Anne West 10. 24th February 1999 – Dave J – Derek Nimmo 11. 2nd March 1999 – Dave J/Drunkasaskunk – Dusty Springfield 12. 5th March 1999 – Drunkasaskunk – Lord Denning WINNER (2000) 13. 19th January 2000 – MT Graves – Bettino Craxi 14. 21st May 2000 – Finnbarr – John Gielgud 15. 1st July 2000 – MT Graves – Walter Matthau WINNER (2001) 16. 11th January 2001 – Miss Chief and Juicy Janny – Michael Williams 17. 16th January 2001 – Ed K – Auberon Waugh 18. 23rd April 2001 – Whittakers Choice – Charles Madden 19. 21st June 2001 – Joe Ram – Carrol O’Connor 20. 3rd August 2001 – Whittakers Choice – Lord Longford WINNER (2002) 21. 3rd January 2002 – One Foot in the Grave – Antonio Todde 22. 31st January 2002 – Drunkasaskunk – Jonathan Wilson 23. 9th February 2002 – Tim R – Princess Margaret 24. 5th May 2002 – Tim R/Ghoulish Guesses – Hugo Banzer 25. 10th June 2002 – Joe Ram – John Gotti WINNER (2003) 26. 3rd January 2003 – Ed K – Nap Botterell 27. 18th February 2003 – Otis you want a treat? – Lee Kriendler WINNER (2004) 28. 14th January 2004 – Otis You Want a Treat? – Tom Hurndall 29. 5th March 2004 – One Foot in the Grave – Joan Moll 30. 28th March 2004 – One Foot in the Grave/Whittakers Choice – Peter Ustinov 31. 30th March 2004 – OfitG/Whittakers/Big Iain/Deathlist.net – Alistair Cooke 32. April 25th 2004 – Deathlist.net – Estee Lauder 33. May 6th 2004 – Otis – Barney Kessel 34. May 14th 2004 – One Foot in the Grave – Charlotte Benkner 35. May 29th 2004 – Otis – Jack Rosenthal 36. August 9th 2004 – Deathlist.net – Fay Wray 37. September 24th 2004 – Otis – Francoise Sagan 38. December 30th 2004 – Deathlist.net – Artie Shaw – WINNER (2005) 39. January 2nd 2005 – Rude Kid – Cyril Fletcher 40. Juanuary 17th 2005 – Fallen Sparrow – Charlie Bell 41. July 20th 2005 – I Smell Dead People – James Doohan 42. November 15th 2005 – Fallen Sparrow – Robert Tisch WINNER (2006) 43. 3rd January 2006 – Go Fish – William Skate 44. 6th January 2006 – 20 teams – Lou Rawls 45. 14th January 2006 – Faster Pussycat – Shelley Winters 46. 17th January 2006 – Doffin Codgers – Clarence Ray Allen 47. 21st January 2006 – faster Pussycat – Ibrahim Rugova 48. 30th January 2006 – Go Fish – Wendy Wasserstein 49. 17th October 2006 – Meet your Maker – Ross Davidson WINNER (2007) 50. 2nd January 2007 - Death from Above/Go Fish - Charles Betty 51. 16th January 2007 – Godot/Mortal Wombat/Only Fools and Corpses/Caulkhead Coffin Kickers – tahe 2 dead Iraqis 52. 13th February 2007 – Death from Above – Ada Mason 53. 26th February 2007 - Dead Men Walkng/Eejit – Josie Grove 54. 24th April 2007 – No Noose is Good Noose – James Flliaggi 55. 7th July 2007 – Meet your maker – George fn Melly 56. 10th September 2007 – Stab in the Dark – Jane Wyman 57. 25th October 2007 – Meet your Maker – Mehmed Uzun WINNER (2008) 58. 2nd January 2008 – One Foot in the Grave – Yo-Sam Choi 59. 27th January 2008 – They Died and Left me in Charge – Suharto 60. 28th January 2008 – they’re Dead, Y’Know – Archbishop Christodoulos 61. 2nd March 2008 – Godots Waiting List/They’re Dead Y’Know/The Living End – Jeff Healey/Norm O’neill 62. 7th March 2008 – Godots Waiting List/They’re Dead Y’Know – Francis Pym 63. 15th March 2008 – The Living End – Mikey Dread 64. 24th March 2008 – Godot’s Waiting List – Richard Widmark 65. 17th April 2008 – The Living End – Danny Federici WINNER (2009) 66. 1st January 2009 – Going Underground – Claiborne Pell 67. 3rd January 2009 – Octopus of Odstock – Pat Hingle 68. 4th January 2009 – Heaven Knows Thy’re Miserable Now – Lei Clijsters 69. 18th August 2009 – Tonight matthew… - Robert Novak WINNER (2010) 70. 4th January 2010 – Rude Kid – Tsutomu Yamaguchi 71. 18th January 2010 – The Living End – Kate McGarrigle 72. 21st January 2010 – Misers – Paul Quarrington 73. 27th January 2010 – rude Kid – Zelda Rubinstein 74. 7th February 2010 – Canadian Paul – Willam Tenn 75. 14th February 2010 – Groblers Stiff Ones – Dick Francis 76. 2nd March 2010 – If I’m Spared… - Winston Churchill 77. 6th April 2010 – Groblrs Stiff Ones – Corin Redgrave 78. 19th August 2010 – Octopus of Odstock – Edwin Morgan 79. 31st August 2010 – Octopus of Odstock/Rot in Hell John – Laurent Fignon 80. 4th October 2010 – Octopus of Odstock – Norman Wisdom WINNER (2011) 81. 2nd January 2011 – Old Ma G’s Gravy Mix – Pete Postlethwaite 82. 4th January 2011 – Inigo I hope we win – Gerry Rafferty 83. 9th January 2011 – Daniel Faradays Notebook – Tom Lubbock 84. 15th January 2011 – The Final Showdown – Nat Lofthousee 85. 3rd February 2011 – The Living End – John Higgins Sr WINNER (2012) 86. 1st January 2012 – Better You Than Me/The Don/Finbarr/Gawn/George Lass/Girlfriend in a Coma/Romancing the Headstone/Importance of Being Umish/Unspiritualist/This Mortal Coil – Gary Ablett 87. 14th January 2012 – David QUantick’s Showbiz Pals/The Living End – Lesley Strathie 88. 20th January 2012 – Gawn dead Planted/David Quanticks Showbiz Pals/The Living End– Etta James 89. 22nd January 2012 – ‘arry kiri – Joe Paterno 90. 31st January 2012 – ‘arry kiri/Octopus of Odstock – Bevalicqua 91. 9th February 2012 – Gawn dead Planted – Gifford 92. 16th February 2012 – Stardust – Gary Carter 93. 21st February 2012 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Rosoman 94. 20th March 2012 – ‘arry Kiri/The Living End – Jim Stynes 95. 25th March 2012 – The Living End – Bert Sugar WINNER (2013) 96. 1st January 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Christopher Martin-Jenkins 97. 9th January 2013 – Romancing the Headstone – Owen Brennan 98. 21st January 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Michael Winner 99. 11th March 2013 – The Living End – Lisa Lynch 100. 8th April 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Annette Funicello 101. 4th July 2013 – Thomas Jefferson Survives – Bernie Nolan 102. 21st September 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Jack Pardee qualifying obit found down back of sofa 103. 16th December 2013 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Ray Price WINNER (2014) 104. 1st January 2014 – The Good, the Bad and Cliff Richard – Dorothy Baldwin 105. 2nd January 2014 – Researched to Death/I’m a Celeb/This Mortal Coil/Toast of the Turf – Terry Biddlecombe 106. 3rd January 2014 –Shake, Rattle, Rll over – Phil Evrely 107. 11th January 2014 – Star Dust/Chemo Sabee/They’re Loving Angels Instead – Felix Glenny 108. 16th January 2014 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals- Steve Evans 109. 7th May 2014 – Drunkasaskunk – Katherine Crowe 110. 21st October 2014 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Chen Ziming WINNER (2015) 111. 1st January 2015 – Paint the Town Dead/Tentoesup – Mario Cuomo. 112. 2nd January 2015 – The Living End – Anas al-Liby 113. 4th January 2015 – Thomas Jefferson Survives/David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Stuart Scott 114. 13th January 2015 – Taking the Michael – Mike Marqusee 115. 9th February 2015 – Crazycarl – Ed Sabol 116. 27th February 2015 – Crazycarl and Thomas Jefferson Survives – Bob Benmosche 117. 8th April 2015 – Thomas Jefferson Survives – Ion Trewin 118. 2nd September 2015 – The Living End – Denise Marshall obit 119. 25th December 2015 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Sadhana Shivdasani WINNER (2016) 120. 1st January 2016 – Shameless – S@r@h J0ne5 121. 15th January 2016 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Dan Haggry 122. 25th February 2016 – Shameless – Ch@rl0tte3 E@de5 123. 3rd March 2016 – Heading Nowhere – Martin Crowe 124. 14th March 2016 – The Living End - Peter Maxwell Davies 125. 24th March 2016 - Thomas Jefferson Survives – Johan Cruyff 126. 4th April 2016 – The Living End – Ronald Mulkearns 127. 8th July 2016 – David QUantick’s Showbiz Pal/The Living End – Abdul Sattar Edhi 128. 16th July 2016 - -The Living End – Bonnie Brown 129. 23rd July 2016 – David QUantick’s Showbiz Pals – Kate Granger 130. 30th August 2016 – Heading Nowhere – Vera Caslavska 131. 2nd September 2016 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Rowena Kincaid (2017) 132. 1st January 2017 – Destination Eschaton – Derek Parfitt 133. 8th January 2017 – Carkers Convention – Peter Sarstedt 134. 15th January 2017 – Captain Hemlock’20/Dead Last?/Eternity Tours/Francis of Arse-Easy/Grim McGraw – Jimmy Snuka 135. 19th January 2017 – To Kill a Gabor Sister – Mark Sims 136. 6th February 2017 – Golden Slumbers – Joost van der Westhuizen 137. 17th October 2017 – Golden Slumbers and David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Gord Downie 138. 5th December 2017 – Golden Slumbers – King Michael of Romania WINNER (2018) 139. 2nd January 2018 – Robbinsdale High School Memorial Deathsquad – Emily Dole 140. 4th January 2018 – Heading Nowhere and Drollercoaster – Rayya elias 141. 17th January 2018 – Drollercoaster – Jessica Falkholt 142. 22nd April 2018 – Day in the Death - Jacqui Forster 143. 5th August 2018 – Thomas Jefferson Survives – Charlotte Rae 144. 21st November 2018 - Pity da Foolz - Devin Lima WINNER (2019) 145. 1st January 2019 - GUN Away - Tyler Trent 146. 25th January 2019 - Going Underground/Ethnic Cleansing - Fatima Ali 147. 1st February 2019 - Ethnic Cleansing - Andrew McGahan 148. 21st February 2019 - The Living End - Peter Tork 149. 3rd April 2019 - Going Underground - Bill Heine 150. 11th June 2019 - Grim Up North - Gabriele Grunewald 151. 16th July 2019 - Thomas Jefferson Survives/Pan Breed - Johnny Clegg 152. 20th August 2019 - TJS/Pan Breed/Heading Nowhere - Fred Rister 153. 18th September 2019 - Thomas Jefferson Survives - Fernando Ricksen WINNER (2020) 154. 1st January 2020 - YOUREOUT - Don Larsen 155. 3rd January 2020 - Last of the Summer Winos - Christopher Beeny 156. 7th January 2020 - You Could Be A King or a Little Street Sweeper - Elizabeth Wurtzel 157. 10th January 2002 - House of Soon to be with the Lord - Qaboos al Said 158. 12th January 2020 - You Could be A King or a Little Street Sweeper - Roger Scruton 159. 19th January 2020 - Roasting Bodies in Redcar - Shin Kyuk-ho 160. 21st January 2020 - You Could Be a King or a Little Street Sweeper - Terry Jones 161. 25th January 2020 - Love Boat - Sonia Kinsella 162. 30th January 2020 - Day in the Death/Heading Nowhere - John Andretti 163. 14th March 2020 - The Love Boat - Genesis Porridge 164. 18th March 2020 - To Kill a Gabor Sister 165. 17th July 2020 - Day in the Death - John Lewis 166. 24th July 2020 - Love Boat - David Hagen WINNER (2021) 167. 1st January 2021 - Deathray - Mark Eden 168. 1st January 2021 - Living End/Perhaps - Floyd Little 169. 2nd January 2021 - Prophets Prophecies - Paul Westphal 170. 5th February 2021 - Jackie Treehorn - Leon Spinks 171. 12th February 2021 - David Quantick's Showbiz pals - Milford Graves Updated best as possible to the present day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,975 Posted January 19, 2020 On 29/12/2018 at 20:00, Death Impends said: 17 as far as I can tell, with Canada, Cuba, Hungary, Iceland, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Poland, Romania, Syria, UK, USA, South Africa, Venezuela, and Zimbabwe all delivering at least one hit. Astonishingly have yet to get a hit from Australia! 21 countries now. Pakistan, France, and Australia added to the tally last year, Oman this. There's also potential for Denmark and South Korea this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted January 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Death Impends said: 21 countries now. Pakistan, France, and Australia added to the tally last year, Oman this. There's also potential for Denmark and South Korea this year. You telling me we've never had a Russian (white or black, a little alcohol humour there)?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clorox Bleachman 2,423 Posted February 6, 2020 On 20/07/2019 at 18:13, Clorox Bleachman said: Predictor asked a while back who had received the most votes across all the "nth death of 20xx" polls. Well, here's the answer. Brackers is our strongest survivor, and with a bit of luck she could be the GOAT. She's beaten Kirk in under 3 years! In a twist no one saw coming, Kirk overtook Leah by one vote before proceeding to die the next day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
