bladan 293 Posted February 8, 2017 She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves. ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,937 Posted February 8, 2017 She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves. ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Cartesius uses the ghost theory to found his scientifical method. It was only supposed per absurdum to demonstrate man can be sure of something he is doing, thinking, even if the ghost keeps us in a fictional reality. I'm sure he did not really believe there was a ghost in our brain (well, in some brains there may be a ghost...) and he did not know about TPT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladan 293 Posted February 8, 2017 She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves. ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Cartesius uses the ghost theory to found his scientifical method. It was only supposed per absurdum to demonstrate man can be sure of something he is doing, thinking, even if the ghost keeps us in a fictional reality. I'm sure he did not really believe there was a ghost in our brain (well, in some brains there may be a ghost...) and he did not know about TPT. Yes but had Cartius a choice? Did he have causal powers? Nature has causal powers. The common-sense theory of free will says that last week, while you still had a choice whether tobuy a ticket or not, the future was still objectively open, and you really could have chosen any of two or more options. But that is incompatible with spacetime. So according to spacetime physics, the openness of the future is an illusion, and therefore causation and free will can be no more than illusions as well. We need, and cling to, the belief that the future can be affected by present events, and especially by our choices; but perhaps that is just our way of coping with the fact that we do not know the future. In reality, we make no choices. Even as we think we are considering a choice, its outcome is already there, on the appropriate slice of spacetime, unchangeable like everything else in spacetime, and impervious to our deliberations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,220 Posted February 8, 2017 She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves. ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Cartesius uses the ghost theory to found his scientifical method. It was only supposed per absurdum to demonstrate man can be sure of something he is doing, thinking, even if the ghost keeps us in a fictional reality. I'm sure he did not really believe there was a ghost in our brain (well, in some brains there may be a ghost...) and he did not know about TPT. Yes but had Cartius a choice? Did he have causal powers? Nature has causal powers. The common-sense theory of free will says that last week, while you still had a choice whether tobuy a ticket or not, the future was still objectively open, and you really could have chosen any of two or more options. But that is incompatible with spacetime. So according to spacetime physics, the openness of the future is an illusion, and therefore causation and free will can be no more than illusions as well. We need, and cling to, the belief that the future can be affected by present events, and especially by our choices; but perhaps that is just our way of coping with the fact that we do not know the future. In reality, we make no choices. Even as we think we are considering a choice, its outcome is already there, on the appropriate slice of spacetime, unchangeable like everything else in spacetime, and impervious to our deliberations. Think you meant to put it here: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/7633-crap-poetry-corner/#entry151586 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted February 8, 2017 Shouldn't have been famous in Life = shouldn't be famous in Death.... And for those whining about 45 no age to go, fuck up. With all these centenarians on the go, how the fuck do you think we get an average of mid 70s? Folk need to die sub 50, that's how... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted February 8, 2017 * apart from Westbrook, what other famous 'septimus solos' are on the go?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,515 Posted February 8, 2017 Sophie Anderton, who I had to double-check to see if she was still alive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsox 894 Posted February 8, 2017 She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves. ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Cartesius uses the ghost theory to found his scientifical method. It was only supposed per absurdum to demonstrate man can be sure of something he is doing, thinking, even if the ghost keeps us in a fictional reality. I'm sure he did not really believe there was a ghost in our brain (well, in some brains there may be a ghost...) and he did not know about TPT. Yes but had Cartius a choice? Did he have causal powers? Nature has causal powers. The common-sense theory of free will says that last week, while you still had a choice whether tobuy a ticket or not, the future was still objectively open, and you really could have chosen any of two or more options. But that is incompatible with spacetime. So according to spacetime physics, the openness of the future is an illusion, and therefore causation and free will can be no more than illusions as well. We need, and cling to, the belief that the future can be affected by present events, and especially by our choices; but perhaps that is just our way of coping with the fact that we do not know the future. In reality, we make no choices. Even as we think we are considering a choice, its outcome is already there, on the appropriate slice of spacetime, unchangeable like everything else in spacetime, and impervious to our deliberations. Don't agree Blady but I love it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,386 Posted February 9, 2017 Shit, I went Westbrook on my list, I picked the wrong coke-addled fortysomething. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,937 Posted February 9, 2017 Belgian road bicycle racer Serge Baguet has died aged 47, following a long illness. http://sport24.lefigaro.fr/cyclisme/fil-info/deces-de-serge-baguet-845281 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladan 293 Posted February 9, 2017   She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves.  ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Cartesius uses the ghost theory to found his scientifical method. It was only supposed per absurdum to demonstrate man can be sure of something he is doing, thinking, even if the ghost keeps us in a fictional reality. I'm sure he did not really believe there was a ghost in our brain (well, in some brains there may be a ghost...) and he did not know about TPT. Yes but had Cartius a choice? Did he have causal powers? Nature has causal powers. The common-sense theory of free will says that last week, while you still had a choice whether tobuy a ticket or not, the future was still objectively open, and you really could have chosen any of two or more options. But that is incompatible with spacetime. So according to spacetime physics, the openness of the future is an illusion, and therefore causation and free will can be no more than illusions as well. We need, and cling to, the belief that the future can be affected by present events, and especially by our choices; but perhaps that is just our way of coping with the fact that we do not know the future. In reality, we make no choices. Even as we think we are considering a choice, its outcome is already there, on the appropriate slice of spacetime, unchangeable like everything else in spacetime, and impervious to our deliberations. Don't agree Blady but I love it! I quoted physicist David Deutsch without acknowledgment of the source. It is indeed true that according to Einstein's relativity, the future is already fixed and has been so since the Big Bang. Thus the next dead of 2017 are already there, on the 2017 slice of spacetime, unchangeable like everything else. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsox 894 Posted February 9, 2017   She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves.  ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Cartesius uses the ghost theory to found his scientifical method. It was only supposed per absurdum to demonstrate man can be sure of something he is doing, thinking, even if the ghost keeps us in a fictional reality. I'm sure he did not really believe there was a ghost in our brain (well, in some brains there may be a ghost...) and he did not know about TPT. Yes but had Cartius a choice? Did he have causal powers? Nature has causal powers. The common-sense theory of free will says that last week, while you still had a choice whether tobuy a ticket or not, the future was still objectively open, and you really could have chosen any of two or more options. But that is incompatible with spacetime. So according to spacetime physics, the openness of the future is an illusion, and therefore causation and free will can be no more than illusions as well. We need, and cling to, the belief that the future can be affected by present events, and especially by our choices; but perhaps that is just our way of coping with the fact that we do not know the future. In reality, we make no choices. Even as we think we are considering a choice, its outcome is already there, on the appropriate slice of spacetime, unchangeable like everything else in spacetime, and impervious to our deliberations. Don't agree Blady but I love it! I quoted physicist David Deutsch without acknowledgment of the source. It is indeed true that according to Einstein's relativity, the future is already fixed and has been so since the Big Bang. Thus the next dead of 2017 are already there, on the 2017 slice of spacetime, unchangeable like everything else. Still don't agree, still love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,035 Posted February 10, 2017 Don't know if this: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thetimes-uk/obituary.aspx?n=joan-gregson&pid=184089114&fhid=34155 Relates to her: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339991/ I'm sure there would be more than the simplest of obits for her, but anyone know better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,400 Posted February 10, 2017 Don't know if this: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thetimes-uk/obituary.aspx?n=joan-gregson&pid=184089114&fhid=34155 Relates to her: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339991/ I'm sure there would be more than the simplest of obits for her, but anyone know better? A new show called Mary Kills People which only just begun airing in Canada 25/01/17 features Joan Gregson in it. While it appears her character has been killed off the production company has tweeted about her, although that doesn't really give a definitive answer. I would suspect, however, since she is currently in a production so recent, if she had died there would have been some sort of tweet from the production company offering condolences or something of the sort. Also, if that was her in that clip then she looks bloody good for 88. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,035 Posted February 10, 2017 Don't know if this: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thetimes-uk/obituary.aspx?n=joan-gregson&pid=184089114&fhid=34155 Relates to her: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339991/ I'm sure there would be more than the simplest of obits for her, but anyone know better? A new show called Mary Kills People which only just begun airing in Canada 25/01/17 features Joan Gregson in it. the production company has tweeted about her, although that doesn't really give a definitive answer. I would suspect, however, since she is currently in a production so recent, if she had died there would have been some sort of tweet from the production company offering condolences or something of the sort. Also, if that was her in that clip then she looks bloody good for 88. Cheers I doubted it was her anyway. Got a shock when I saw the obit though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,132 Posted February 10, 2017 Don't know if this: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thetimes-uk/obituary.aspx?n=joan-gregson&pid=184089114&fhid=34155 Relates to her: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0339991/ I'm sure there would be more than the simplest of obits for her, but anyone know better? A new show called Mary Kills People which only just begun airing in Canada 25/01/17 features Joan Gregson in it. While it appears her character has been killed off the production company has tweeted about her, although that doesn't really give a definitive answer. I would suspect, however, since she is currently in a production so recent, if she had died there would have been some sort of tweet from the production company offering condolences or something of the sort. Also, if that was her in that clip then she looks bloody good for 88. If the actress is 88, I would expect to see some credits from earlier than 1973. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted February 10, 2017 She was always on the tellybox in the 90s doing some daft thing or other, and then for some reason hasn't been seen for years now. Had forgotten about her to be honest. Any drug or alcohol related death is a tragedy in my view. Nature can be cruel with things like cancer but addiction is people being cruel to themselves. ??? According to science, everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. In fact, the medieval Cartesian view that there is a ghost with causal powers in the brain-machine is currently regarded as ridiculous by scientists. No death is a tragedy since everything that happens obeys the laws of nature. Cartesian relates to Descartes 17th Century; medieval 5-15th Century. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,937 Posted February 11, 2017 2017 is lacking of deaths. Oh, 2016, the Golden Age of Death! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladan 293 Posted February 11, 2017 "You start to die the moment you are born. The whole of life is cutting through the pack with death" – James Bond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted February 11, 2017 Do we have a qigong thread Cat? If we did it would need Wang Lin in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Lin_(qigong_master).His snake trick was particulalry notbale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyI-CMl0YxE Come on how many times has someone said to you, come to my house and I'll show you a snake trick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted February 11, 2017 Do we have a qigong thread Cat? If we did it would need Wang Lin in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Lin_(qigong_master).His snake trick was particulalry notbale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyI-CMl0YxE Come on how many times has someone said to you, come to my house and I'll show you a snake trick. I've lost count. As far as I can see gigong has never been mentioned anywhere nor has its 'cousin' tai chi. There isn't a thread title with the word 'Buddhist' 'Taoist' or 'Confucion' in it either. Edit: There's a club just down the road from me, perhaps I should join. https://www.facebook.com/RedTentQigong/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockhopper penguin 2,265 Posted February 11, 2017 Do we have a qigong thread Cat? If we did it would need Wang Lin in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Lin_(qigong_master).His snake trick was particulalry notbale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyI-CMl0YxE Come on how many times has someone said to you, come to my house and I'll show you a snake trick. I've lost count. As far as I can see gigong has never been mentioned anywhere nor has its 'cousin' tai chi. There isn't a thread title with the word 'Buddhist' 'Taoist' or 'Confucion' in it either. Edit: There's a club just down the road from me, perhaps I should join. https://www.facebook.com/RedTentQigong/ Er, when did Leicester get a pier? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted February 12, 2017 Do we have a qigong thread Cat? If we did it would need Wang Lin in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Lin_(qigong_master).His snake trick was particulalry notbale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyI-CMl0YxE Come on how many times has someone said to you, come to my house and I'll show you a snake trick. I've lost count. As far as I can see gigong has never been mentioned anywhere nor has its 'cousin' tai chi. There isn't a thread title with the word 'Buddhist' 'Taoist' or 'Confucion' in it either. Edit: There's a club just down the road from me, perhaps I should join. https://www.facebook.com/RedTentQigong/ Er, when did Leicester get a pier? When they built the lido; it was torn down when they closed it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CastAway 488 Posted February 12, 2017 Do we have a thread for those who have committed crimes of humanity? Ljubiša Beara, one of the main people involved in the Srebrenica Massacre and convicted by a U.N. war crimes tribunal for a host of things, including genocide and extermination, has completed his sentence of life in prison at age 77. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,937 Posted February 12, 2017 Swiss religious poet Kurt Marti has died aged 96. https://www.srf.ch/news/panorama/kurt-marti-verstorben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites