gcreptile 10,963 Posted May 30, 2017 Her breast cancer has returned and it has spread: http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/olivia-newton-john-breast-cancer-10530974 (Yes, getting there before Gooseberry Crumble does it.) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zsa Zsa's leg 884 Posted May 30, 2017 Beat me to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted May 30, 2017 http://www.healthline.com/health/breast-cancer/metastatic-prognosis#Metastasis2 The five year survival rate is only 22% for metastatic breast cancer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,963 Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, Zsa Zsa's leg said: Beat me to it Sorry... but yes, it's the logical thing to do. Deathlist material and all that... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,309 Posted May 30, 2017 Damn beaten by a minute.Delete my thread please mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zsa Zsa's leg 884 Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, Shaun of the Dead said: Damn beaten by a minute.Delete my thread please mods. Same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,432 Posted May 30, 2017 New threads/posts there... It's as if news broke or something. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,220 Posted May 30, 2017 Deathlist 2018 confirmed, if she makes it... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,963 Posted May 30, 2017 She's (partly) going the "natural" treatment route...oh dear... (well, is there anything else they can do?) However, my first feeling is that she's a 2019 hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,309 Posted May 30, 2017 Definitely.A massive name.Sounds like she is in the same situation as Linda Nolan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LilyForrester 81 Posted May 30, 2017 Huge name. Great pick for 2018. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,309 Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, gcreptile said: She's (partly) going the "natural" treatment route...oh dear... (well, is there anything else they can do?) However, my first feeling is that she's a 2019 hit. Same but she is too big a name to miss so would put her on next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,963 Posted May 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shaun of the Dead said: Same but she is too big a name to miss so would put her on next year. Also true. Death List Top Ten entry next year, then Top one in 2019, like Martin Crowe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ObakeFilter 892 Posted May 30, 2017 Just out of curiosity, what makes her more vulnerable than the likes of Kathy Bates, who also had breast cancer (which followed her ovarian cancer from years back)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,513 Posted May 30, 2017 Look at me I'm Sandra Dee Metastasising perfectly 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,963 Posted May 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, ObakeFilter said: Just out of curiosity, what makes her more vulnerable than the likes of Kathy Bates, who also had breast cancer (which followed her ovarian cancer from years back)? I guess a return of the same kind of cancer indicates that it's a relatively aggressive tumour (confirmed by its spread). And there's a higher chance it might be resistant to chemo the second time.... at least that's what I think.... I don't know whether it's a totally different situation if there's cancer in a different body part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted May 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, ObakeFilter said: Just out of curiosity, what makes her more vulnerable than the likes of Kathy Bates, who also had breast cancer (who followed her ovarian cancer from years back)? Mad Hatter has linked some material about metastatic breast cancers and their dismal prognosis + limited treatment options. In short: Most of the time, cancers that have spread so far away from the original site (the sacrum is at the base of the spine) are very hard (in most cases, impossible*) to cure. Even if they remove all apparent/visible tumours, use chemo+radiotherapy etc. the cancer will usually stay/recur/spread and ultimately kill its host. (*Some cancer types [like testicular cancer] can usually be treated successfully even if they spread – but unfortunately, most cancers are considered to be incurable at that point.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,513 Posted May 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, GossipGabe said: (*Some cancer types [like testicular cancer] can usually be treated successfully even if they spread Typical male privilege. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted May 30, 2017 She's the one that we want (on the DeathList)... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,725 Posted May 30, 2017 Sad - once I get used to the news I'm sure I'll find the logic to pick her for the various pools but for now just all a bit new and makes me feel old. When you find the women who used to be wank fodder appearing on your death lists you know life is moving on way too fast. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zsa Zsa's leg 884 Posted May 30, 2017 March 1st, 2018. I think she'll put up a fight for a while, almost like a Bernie Nolan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vinegar Tits 605 Posted May 30, 2017 Really sad news. I love Livvy, she's done a lot for cancer charity and awareness in Australia (my sister did a bit of The Great Wall Of China sponsored walk thingy) and she's always seemed like a really lovely person. I hope she pulls through, but will definitely be keeping an eye on news about her. She's somebody who I'd *really* prefer not to have to put in my deadpool. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exu 250 Posted May 30, 2017 Very sad news and a shoo-in for 2018. My mum dragged me to watch Olivia in Grease at the cinema when I was eleven as my Dad was working and I was smitten instantly. Does make you feel very old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted May 30, 2017 I think grease is a shit movie but i think Olivia is a great singer. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youwanticewiththat 611 Posted May 30, 2017 Sadly I suspect she won't see out 2017 - spinal metastases; poor woman. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites