Joey Russ 7,226 Posted January 26, 2018 It happens whenever he has the time. Generally, it happens once every two weeks, but it could be quicker if there is more deaths during a certain time period... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/23/2018 at 20:23, Death Impends said: Aye, precedent goes far back on that rule. Back in the OoO days there was a boxer who died in January of injuries suffered the previous December but carried no unnatural bonus points. A boxer dying from injuries sustained in the ring isn’t unnatural. A boxer dying in an auto accident is. As in an actress. As was John Nash. Bollocks to the fascist suggesting it isn’t an unnatural death. I should hope common sense says if you get head injuries in the ring (see Abdusalamov) vs head injuries getting one’s ass beat in jail (see Peter Tosh’s son Jawara McIntosh and a unique pick tyvm) one requires an unnatural death bonus and one gets denied the same. Bollocks! SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,226 Posted January 26, 2018 The difference is that they actually died by those causes in the same year. Apart from one exception (which was solely due to a mistake by themaninblack), unnatural bonuses only count if they’re done in the same year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharonsCrew 23 Posted January 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, Sir Creep said: A boxer dying from injuries sustained in the ring isn’t unnatural. A boxer dying in an auto accident is. As in an actress. As was John Nash. Bollocks to the fascist suggesting it isn’t an unnatural death. I should hope common sense says if you get head injuries in the ring (see Abdusalamov) vs head injuries getting one’s ass beat in jail (see Peter Tosh’s son Jawara McIntosh and a unique pick tyvm) one requires an unnatural death bonus and one gets denied the same. Bollocks! SC In that case, I have a question about this. I've seen people pick those in high risk professions, and I'm thinking about that guy who died recently from "Storm Chasers." Ironically, if anyone had chosen him they would presumably have got the unnatural causes bonus anyway, since it's been reported that he died of a drug overdose. But if he'd got too close to a tornado instead, and been killed, would that have counted as unnatural causes or not? And if so, is there any difference between that and a boxer? (We'll assume that the incident and death happen in the same year.) I'm not arguing or anything, I'm just genuinely curious about what the rules are. Thanks for any clarification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted January 26, 2018 An unnatural cause is an unnatural cause, regardless of the occupation, lifestyle or habits of the victim. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,443 Posted January 26, 2018 Here is TMIB's ruling on such cases - before this, it was on a person to person basis rather than having a rule itself: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted January 26, 2018 My DDP joker in 2009 Eluana Englaro, comatose for years after a car crash and then starved to death when her feeding tubes were withdrawn, didn't get the unnatural bonus points. Not that still I'm bitter about it or anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,443 Posted January 26, 2018 ^ For newcomers to the story: If he'd got those unnatural bonus points AND the Linda Uttley obit hadn't been delayed over Christmas, he'd have won the 2009 DDP, you see. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharonsCrew 23 Posted January 26, 2018 Thanks for the responses all. I would agree that an unnatural death is an unnatural death regardless, otherwise it might be hard to decide where to draw the line. That Branson fellow used to do some fairly interesting things - if he skydived dressed as an angel while holding a 'Fly Virgin!' sign, is that work-related? I'd never really thought of picking people who make these daring reality shows, but I might give them a consideration for next year. Even if their shows aren't necessarily popular, the press will probably pick up on someone who deliberately ran into a tornado. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FixedBusiness 407 Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, CharonsCrew said: Thanks for the responses all. I would agree that an unnatural death is an unnatural death regardless, otherwise it might be hard to decide where to draw the line. That Branson fellow used to do some fairly interesting things - if he skydived dressed as an angel while holding a 'Fly Virgin!' sign, is that work-related? I'd never really thought of picking people who make these daring reality shows, but I might give them a consideration for next year. Even if their shows aren't necessarily popular, the press will probably pick up on someone who deliberately ran into a tornado. Hell I'd love to see a Jackass theme team or something like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CharonsCrew 23 Posted January 27, 2018 9 hours ago, FixedBusiness said: Hell I'd love to see a Jackass theme team or something like that. Thanks. It's tempting. I've haven't ever fielded a theme team. One to think about for next year, certainly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted January 27, 2018 Calling an elderly person who 'falls' an unnatural death.....that's how almost ALL of them die. The old 'broken hip'. If you fall like that idiot Korean building climber a few months ago, that's unnatural (if not suicidal). Otherwise falling down is something that happens due to that unnatural thing called gravity. How long does 'a fall' have effect? A person falls and dies 4 months later? Anyway..... SC http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/04/john-dingell-released-hospital/109160778/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted January 27, 2018 Also, unless we are being run by Orthodox Jews, brain dead does not equal alive. Are we being run by Orthodox Jews? SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, Sir Creep said: Also, unless we are being run by Orthodox Jews, brain dead does not equal alive. Are we being run by Orthodox Jews? SC Oy vey, stop kvetching. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,945 Posted January 27, 2018 I had Jessica Falkholt and I think the rules are clear on her not getting the accidental bonus points, unless you consider life support switched by her family as murder, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,044 Posted January 27, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 10:48, YoungWillz said: Let's just begin... Round Up #1 (The Man In Black Tribute Special) Salvador Borrego: Awaiting Obit. Jimmy Armfield: ITV Obit: http://www.itv.com/news/2018-01-22/former-england-and-blackpool-footballer-jimmy-armfield-dies-aged-82/ Patrick Cryne: BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42776060 Naomi Parker-Fraley: BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42787869 Connie Sawyer: Daily Mail Obit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5300383/Oldest-working-actress-Connie-Sawyer-dies-105-LA.html Hugh Masekela: BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42786749 Ursula K Le Guin: BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42798654 Mark E Smith: BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42811968 Mort Walker: Daily Mail Obit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-5320823/Beetle-Bailey-cartoonist-Mort-Walker-dies-94.html Claribel Alegria: Awaiting Obit. Ingvar Kamprad: BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42851668 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,982 Posted January 27, 2018 Also waiting an obit is Claribel Alegria with nothing in english yet(Telegraph will randomly decided to give her one 3 months from now) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drunkasaskunk 194 Posted January 28, 2018 The Swedish founder of the Ikea furniture chain, Ingvar Kamprad, has died at the age of 91 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42851668 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,525 Posted January 28, 2018 Latest update.... (up until last night, Beetle Bailey and Ikea lad can wait) 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,525 Posted January 28, 2018 So, now all the teams are (effectively) up, and we''re over the hump of January's obituary rush, here's on the to-do list: One (theme) team still has a few incorrect picks due to a botched submission entry. Three theme teams need adding in full due to falling down the back of the sofa Short bios and pics for those who've died so far ahead of the full bio rollout Update the Drop 40 page for Cryne (out loud) Actually settle on a colour scheme for links on the homepage and stop going 50% TMIB's, 30% mine and 20% whatever I decide at random. Plus Barbra Bush's mum and Sree Sree fuckups and the usual stuff there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,226 Posted January 28, 2018 Just something I noticed, I can't seem to click back on 2017 in the archives section if I wanted to go view past hits for that year. Also, your first update seemed to have disappeared. Is there any chance that it's also with the 2017 archives that I can't click on? Besides those two things, another fantastic update... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grande Pablo 109 Posted January 28, 2018 On 16/01/2018 at 22:40, Grande Pablo said: Ed Doolan has come up trumps for me. 3rd hit over both teams, but first QO. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5274807/Veteran-BBC-broadcaster-Ed-Doolan-dies-aged-76.html Spade - no mention of this one nor any score for me on the latest update. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,226 Posted January 28, 2018 Also, one team had Mary Lucas, who is a definite list of the poster at this point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,945 Posted January 28, 2018 The early lead! It is not so lucky to lead at this point of the year.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,226 Posted January 28, 2018 You still have a very decent team to compete with. At the very least, I expect you to get Bracknell, Gilbert, Goldberg, Jose, Jowell, McCain, Miller, and Vervoort, and Cappotelli, Francis, Lorimer, and Tapie are likely. I think you’ll likely have 16 hits, with (imo) Clegg, Heine, Lima, and Nolan surviving the year. Top five is very plausible... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
