YoungWillz 21,033 Posted October 26, 2023 An immediate googlify suggests someone who iirc was at PMQs. I could be wrong though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,596 Posted October 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Everyone in WM seems to know who it is. All I will say is he's on record as being fond of sniffing a certain air aroma (Google is your friend). wtf is an "air aroma"? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted October 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Oh him. People are going to be underwhelmed when he is named. Reminds me of what one MP said about them and how she thought they were only used on New Years Eve, If I've got the same person they are standing down at the next election anyway, so if found guilty they won't be behind bars before the General Election (given how close it is and how long it will take to get to trial and pass sentence if guilty), and they'd have to resign before then for a by-election to occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 26, 2023 As stated, he's standing down at the next election, so it will end up being a footnote after the election. Who was the other MP who claimed he was scared of blackmail which is why he committed the crime? Was it the transgender one who crashed their car? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted October 26, 2023 Whip removed, seriously - at this rate they'll have to call an election by April because they're losing MPs and seats at such a rate Boris's thumping majority will be toast by Summer anyway. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,571 Posted November 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: I am not sure this will automatically trigger a recall petition It will depend on the sentence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Bibliogryphon said: I am not sure this will automatically trigger a recall petition It will depend on the sentence It won’t but he might of course resign at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,571 Posted November 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: It won’t but he might of course resign at some point. Here's hoping 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,132 Posted November 3, 2023 I don't see anything "racist" about what he said, tbh. I mean, if you said to, let's say, a Swedish person who was insulting or annoying you, "Go back to Sweden", that's surely not "racist". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,386 Posted November 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Toast said: I don't see anything "racist" about what he said, tbh. I mean, if you said to, let's say, a Swedish person who was insulting or annoying you, "Go back to Sweden", that's surely not "racist". Falsely accusing a British citizen of taking money from “my country” and then telling them aggressively to “go back to their country” is a racially aggravated verbal attack. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted November 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, TQR said: Falsely accusing a British citizen of taking money from “my country” and then telling them aggressively to “go back to their country” is a racially aggravated verbal attack. Aye, more to the point both sides got their say in court and he was convicted. As Bob would say "end of!" If they leave the whip it's a bad look, if they remove it and there's a recall the Conservatives are sitting on 54% of the vote, majority last time 14,058 - Labour very clear in second, very doable in another by-election if the chance arises! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,584 Posted November 3, 2023 28 minutes ago, Toast said: I don't see anything "racist" about what he said, tbh. I mean, if you said to, let's say, a Swedish person who was insulting or annoying you, "Go back to Sweden", that's surely not "racist". The judgement is even more ludicrous if you look at the full context of what he said. Really silly the police even took it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,033 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: The judgement is even more ludicrous if you look at the full context of what he said. Really silly the police even took it up. I don't know anything about this and really could couldn't care less. However, isn't he from a party pushing the police to prosecute crimes to their fullest extent? A party that thinks the cops are soft on crime? A party that seeks to suppress protest at all costs and creates crimes every 5 minutes through legislation? Ah, if only he had got one of those "lefty lawyers" to defend him! They make it up as they go along. Subject to sentence and all that might flow from that, if he survives is he standing at the next election anyway? Edited November 3, 2023 by YoungWillz Toast corrected me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,132 Posted November 3, 2023 I would call it xenophobic rather than racist. There's no reference to race there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,132 Posted November 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: I don't know anything about this and really could care less. This is very disappointing from you, YW. It's couldn't care less. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,033 Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Toast said: This is very disappointing from you, YW. It's couldn't care less. Acht, how care less of me! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted November 13, 2023 Mahoosive reshuffle apparently underway - just wondering if any of those ousted will go the full nuclear option and quit before the employment market is saturated with top Tory talent after the election defeat. Nick Gibb - who was schools minister until a few minutes back, is apparently outta there when the next election is called and planning a diplomatic career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 13, 2023 GraveDanger:90 nantonion2013:90 Sean:90 The Old Crem:90 msc 80 Great Uncle Bulgaria:60 Bibliogryphon:40 Gooseberry Crumble:40 TQR 40 The engineer:30 Sir Creep :20 Long overdue update for Chris Pincher , David Warburton , Rosie Cooper and Nadine Dorries. Criminal activity points given for Pincher and Warburton.Pincher was suspended for groping which is against the law. Although he wasn`t criminally convicted sexual assault is a crime and the complaints were upheld.Warburton confessed to taking cocaine during his scandal which is illegal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted November 13, 2023 So, FIVE junior ministers in all stepped down today. Significant, I'd say in that if any of these thought hanging in there for a bit longer as a junior would have seen them with significant front bench action in a year or two they'd still be somewhere in government. One thing I'm noting of late is that the policy agenda is thin and it's a return to standard values. I'm guessing there's nothing in the Tories' private polling that's giving anyone serious hope and they can't see a way back. Even scraping Boris's old seat was likely a fluke and the anti-climate change stuff there wouldn't work nationally. So, these juniors might be tempted to go a little earlier if a decent job offered itself. Exciting times on this thread, then Guardian article below notes: "Those who stepped down were Nick Gibb, the veteran schools minister; Jesse Norman, who was at the Department for Transport; Jeremy Quin, the paymaster general; Will Quince, a junior health minister; and George Freeman, the science minister. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/13/experience-makes-way-for-sunak-loyalists-as-junior-ministers-quit#:~:text=Rishi Sunak's reshuffle has brought,16th housing minister since 2010. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted November 13, 2023 Somerton and Frome - David Warburton, Conservative Been playing this forever and this is my first hit! How exciting! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted November 19, 2023 74 year old Bob Stewart - convicted and currently an independent MP, predictably won't stand again but he's hanging in there until the election so nowt to see here re a by-election. Boundary changes are likely to do for his seat by then anyway. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67467950 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites