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Given it's almost time for entries for the new crowdsource list to open up (and I wasn't in the best mental health the past few months, which is why it isn't earlier), now I think is the time to reveal everyone who was nominated for the list. This includes the original 50 for this year and everyone else who was nominated. So here you might be able to find some folk who might have a shot at making it next time. So here it is: Kirk Douglas 1128 (5th, 1st) Alex Trebek 1043 (NEW) Prince Philip 1028 (5th, 12th) Vera Lynn 931 (5th, 6th) Jimmy Carter 832 (5th, 21st) Bob Dole 780 (4th, 15th) Genesis P-Orridge 742 (NEW) Nobby Stiles 723 (4th, 7th) Olivia de Havilland 717 (5th, 11th) Mikhail Gorbachev 674 (5th, 28th) Ruth Bader Ginsburg 583 (2nd, 44th) Javier Perez de Cuellar 573 (2nd, 27th) Daniel Arap Moi 561 (NEW) George Alagiah 545 (2nd, 19th) David Gulpilil 545 (NEW) Jean Louis Trintignant 533 (2nd, 4th) Stirling Moss 503 (2nd, 23rd) Beverly Cleary 484 (3rd, 50th) Betty White 466 (2nd, 42nd) Terry Jones 465 (2nd, 31st) Lee Kerslake 454 (2nd, 33rd) Henry Kissinger 434 (NEW) Leslie Phillips 432 (5th, 20th) Bob Barker 423 (2nd, 18th) Glynis Johns 423 (4th, 22nd) Roberta McCain 423 (2nd, 40th) Larry King 420 (NEW) Rosalynn Carter 418 (2nd, 47th) Sidney Poitier 412 (4th, 26th) Pope Benedict 409 (5th, 17th) Dilip Kumar 402 (3rd, 13th) Tom Smith 393 (NEW) Sumner Redstone 389 (3rd, -) Willie Nelson 388 (NEW) Roger Scruton 384 (NEW) John Hume - 381 (DQ) Little Richard 359 (NEW) Jill Gascoine - 344 (DQ) Olivia Newton-John 342 (DQ) Harry Reid 333 (NEW) Everton Weekes 321 (NEW) John Lewis 314 (NEW) Lata Mangeshkar 309 (NEW) Joanne Woodward 297 (3rd, -) Jimmy Greaves 287 (NEW) Qaboos bin Said al Said 285 (NEW) Prunella Scales 280 (2nd, -) Eva Marie Saint 278 (NEW) Loretta Lynn 262 (DQ) Clarissa Eden 257 (NEW) Nicholas Parsons 255 (NEW) Frankie Banali 244 (NEW) John Andretti 243 (DQ) Desmond Tutu 241 (3rd, -) Pierre Cardin 238 (DQ) Rhonda Fleming 235 (NEW) 234 = Barbara Walters 223 = Katherine Duchess of Kent 215 = Sean Connery 212 = Anne Buydens 211 = Monica Vitti 206 = James Lovelock 198 = Bill Turnbull 197 = James Watson 190 = June Brown 187 = Chris Doleman 183 = Queen Elizabeth 180 = Lina Wertmuller 175 = Angela Lansbury, Carl Reiner 167 = Honor Backman, Jean Luc Godard 163 = David Attenborough, Michael Lonsdale 161 = Eddie Van Halen 160 = Jackie Stallone, Violet Chamorro 158 = Gianluca Vialli 157 = William Frankland 154 = Murray Walker 153 = Yoo Sang-chul, Hosni Mubarak 151 = Harry Belafonte 148 = Gina Lollobrigida, Katherine Jackson 147 = Ian Holm, Imelda Marcos 146 = Norman Lloyd, Anastasia Zavorotnuik 144 = Sam Lloyd 143 = Mel Brooks 142 = Peter Tobin 139 = Bob Gibson 138 = Chuck Yeager, Jerry Stiller 136 = Gudrun Ure, Peter Sutcliffe, Joan Plowright 134 = Valery Giscard d'Estaing 129 = Ozzy Osbourne 128 = Leon Spinks 126 = Henry Gray 125 = George Schultz 123 = Tabare Vazquez 120 = Tina Turner, Kamala 117 = David Prowse 111 = Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Bernard Tapie 110 = Katherine Johnson 108 = Ennio Morricone 103 = Stanley Baxter 102 = Buzz Aldrin 100 = 6ix9ine, Tomasz Schafernacker 95= Roger Corman, June Spencer 94 = Raymond Briggs, Babu Peggy, Princess Michiko 93 = Alan Greenspan, Dennis Skinner, Barbara Windsor 92 = Kane Tanaka, Stanley Ho, Julie Goodyear 90 = Pat Smullen 89 = Joni Mitchell 88 = Earl Cameron 86 = Alain Delon 85 = Alcee Hastings 84 = Jordan Peterson, Larry Storch 82 = Douglas Hurd 81 = Norman Tebbit, Jean Marie Le Pen 78 = George (Johnny) Johnson, Ruthie Thompson, Christopher Tolkein 77 = Howard Finkel, Gottfried Bohm 76 = Balbir Singh 74 = Sacheen Littlefeather 73 = Alberto Uderzo 70 = Roy Hattersly, Susan Bayh 69 = Michael Caine, Giorgo Napolitano, Jiang Zemin 68 = Eric Carle, Nobuhiko Obayashi 67 = Greg Gilbert 66 = Yoko Ono, Val Kilmer 64 = Bill Treacher 63 = Cleo Laine, David Butler 61 = Vera Miles, Just Fontaine, Bill Freehan 60 = Wanda Jackson, Akihito 58 = Pele, Eileen Derbyshire 57 = Just Fontaine, Ian St John 56 = Trevor Peacock, Queen Sirikit 55 = Denis Goldberg, Iris Apfel, Hal Holbrook 54 = Tony Bennett, George Blake, Juliette Greco, Ged Stokes 53 = Aaron Carter, Isabel Peron, Dick van Dyke 52 = Doddie Weir 50 = Margaret Stuart Barry, Rolf Harris, Ed Asner, Doris Payne 49 = Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Juan Carlos I, Margaret Terekhova, Jack Charlton, James Randi, Abigail Kawanakoa 48 = Michael York, Ted Turner, Ernie Moss, Kenny Rogers, Neddy Smith 47 = Clint Eastwood, Jeanne Little, Sian Phillips, Prince Andrew 46 = Bobby Brown (ranger), Ethel Kennedy, Lisa Lu, Nichelle Nichols, Meat Loaf 45 = Lou Donaldson 44 = Winnie Ewing, Grace Chang, Geoffrey Palmer, Norman Lear, Keith Richards, Rupert Murdoch, Bill Cosby 43 = George McGavin, Bernard Cribbins, Linda Nolan, Kim Yong Nam, Ray Reardon, Lee Noble, Peter Bonetti, Patrick Duffy 42 = Alex Jones, Holly Johnson, Abdullah the Butcher, Shin Kyuk-ho, Burt Bacharach, Benjamin Ferencz 41 = Marsha Hunt, Andy Bell, Sandy Gall, Lee Teng-hui, Bridgette Bardot, Estelle Parsons, Stevie Wonder, Michel Boquet 40 = Joss Ackland, Sargon of Akkad, Nehemiah Persoff, Richard O'Sullivan, Marc Almond, Eddie Large, Mikis Theodrakis, Gaston Glock, Karen Lewis 39 = Richard Bonynge, Alberto Fujimori, Armen Dhzigarkhanian, Sinisa Mihajlovic 38 = John Prescott, Leslie Caron, Pete Murray, Vanessa Redgrave, Valentin Gaft, Pete Doherty, Dries van Agt, K Anbazhagan, Peter Alliss, Aurora Cornu 37 = Noam Chomsky, Johnny Beattie, Lionel Blair, Tim Curry, Michael Robinson, Allune Gwynne Jones 36 = Bob Harris, Paul Stanley, Ted Luscombe, Andrew Romanov 35 = Iggy Pop, Renee Taylor, Max von Sydow, Michael Medwin, Claire Maier 34 = Janet Hefrey, James Buckley, Linda Ronstadt, Hans Jochen-Vogel, Celine Dion, Billy Connolly 33 = Doug Supernaw, Sally Carr, David Bimbleby, Luis Echeverria, John Papworth 32 = Lynne Reid Bank, Margaret Tebbit, Alexey Zolotnitsky, Ronald Atkins, Christiane F, Anouk Aimee, Jerry Lee Lewis, Michael Schumacher, Gerard Depardieu, OJ Simpson 31 = Joan Collins, Petula Clark, Alex Ferguson, Katherine Buckley, Vasili Kulkov, Hugh Downs, Ruth Westheimer, Cloris Leachman 30 = Des O'Connor, James Hong, Brandon Sorenson, Chuck Norris, Mamie van Dore, Elizabeth Sellars, Inga Landgre, Betty Boothroyd 29 = Gary Glitter, Pearl Carr, Jay Allen, Ron McGarry, Stan Bowles, Lee Grant, Leontyne Price, Sheldon Adelson, Sandra Day O’Connor, Joe Sinott 28 = Grace Slick, Ursula Andress, Dave Hilley, Marilyn Horne, Zubin Mehta, Cicely Tyson 27 = Michel Piccoli, Gordon Marshall, Kenneth Kaunda, Jane Morgan 26 = Boris Pahor, Frank Williams, Paul Gascoigne, Justin Bieber, Andrew Mlangeni, Chris Rea, Ghislaine Maxwell, Ann Blyth, Bob Watson, Morrissey 25 = Georg Ratzinger, Geoffrey Boycott, Henri Richard, Phil Spector 24 = John Williams, Walter Mondale, Dion DiMucci, Renee Simonot, Willie Thorne, Mary Ward, Patricia Routledge, Eric Bentley, Francisco Bermudez Morales, Chris Kirubi 23 = Demi Lovato, Billy Bingham, Lance Armstrong, Richard K Guy, Richard Donner, Janis Paige, Arlene Dahl, Ronald Blythe 22 = Bernadette Chirac, Jimmy Tarbuck, Zizi Jeanmaire, Maggie Smith, Alice Munro, Mahatir Mohamad, Carlos Saura 21 = Cullan Brown, Eminem, Ri Yong-mu, James Ivory, Ed Battle 20 = Elton John, Lucia Hiriart, William Russell, Kim Hye Ja, Marge Champion, 50 Cent, Tinto Brass, Barbara Eden, Wilbur Smith, Alisdair MacIntyre, Wilfried Benitez 19 = Valerie Masterson, Tun Tin, Jacques Delors, Robbie Coltrane, Uljana Semjonova, Christopher Lloyd, Liz Sheridan 18 = David Crosby, June Lockhart, Britney Spears, Joan Ganz Cooney, Clio Goldsmith, Anton Coppola, Pope Francis, Arthur Stanley Smith 17 = Norton Juster, Michael Parkinson, Baroness Alfdera Franchetti, George Pell, John Rigas, Paul Farnes, Louis Farrakhan 16 = Phil Collins, Kenneth Cope, Prince Michael of Kent. Daniella Westbrook, Lady Barbara Marie Louise Constance Berry, Ramsey Clark, Tippi Hedren, Jean Paul Belmondo, Paul Fox, Nick Berry 15 = Cheryl Cole, Miiko Taka, Princess Beatrice de Boglia, Patricia Hitchcock, Superstar Billy Graham, Ian Hamilton, Nina Van Pallandt, Thich Hant Nanh 14 = Vivian Pickles, George Cohen, Penelope Lively, Mark Gastineau, Dominic Matteo, Princess Elisabeth de Broglie, Kim Novak, Barbara Barrie, Mike Hoare, Dick Cheney, Constantino Chiwenga 13 = Jose Carreras, Ysanne Church, Slavoj Zizek, Evelyn de Rothschild, Michael Palin, Butch Miller, Charles Njonjo, Tommy Chong 12 = Virginia McCaskey, Len Deighton, Bernie Sanders, Neil Primrose, Ankitola Williams, Peter Lorimer, Mike Huckabee, Michael McKevitt 11 = Katherine Whitehorn, Jean Marsh, Rebecca Pan, Betty Lynn, Countess Magdalene-Sophie von Attems, Hans Wiegel, Brian Urquhart, Shane MacGowan, Samuel Little 10 = F W de Klerk, Sharon Osbourne, Stanley Wells, Fernando Montenegro, Derek Martin, Nathaniel Charles Jacob Rothschild, 4th Baron Rothschild, Ayako Hamada, Driss Guiga, Agnes Keleti, Judith Magre, Norm Coleman 9 = Donald Trump, William Gaunt, Helen, James Earl Jones, Lady Serena Dunn Rothschild, Ahmed Ben Salah, Nana Mouskouri, Rodrigo Duterte, King Harald of Norway, Ray Kennedy 8 = Eric Clapton, Fay Weldon, Scarlet Moffat, Dionne Warwick, Milan Kundera, Irene Papas, David Rowat Barclay, Larisa Latyvina, Stuart Whitman, Ernest Angley, John Madden 7 = Chrissy Metz, Charlotte Crosby, Michael J Fox, Frederick Rowat Barclay, Genevieve Paige 6 = Estelle Harris, Russell Brand, Bob Dylan, Daizee Haize, Micheline Presle, Willie Mays, Robert Wagner 5 = Frank Gehry, Bella Thorne, Cheryl Cole, Cissy Houston, Vladimir Putin, Dump Matsumoto, Mary Bergman, Lester Piggott, Christy Dignam, Ryan O’Neal 4 = Ion Illiescu, Kim Kardashian, Arne Sorenson, Alejandro Jodorowsky, Michael Epstein, Samantha Last, OJ Brigance, Sylvia Syms, Jackie Mason 3 = Thomas Keneally, Norma Waterson, Silvio Berlusconni, Tim Dudley Smith, Robert Kuok, Joyce Randolph, Bill Wyman, Slick Woods, Richard Ingrams, Tommy Lasorda, Fred McLafferty, John Turner, Duane Chapman, Rose West, Duchess Camilla of Cornwall, Alan Hinton 2 = Johnny Gilbert, Harrie Anderson, John Major, Pat Heywood, Larry Niven, Rudolph Marcus, Olivia Ruiz, Nawaal el Sadawi 1 = Barbara Knox, Herbert Kretzmer, Deborah Iyall, Lou Gramm, Tom Baker, Alan Brazil, Gunther von Hagens, Donald Zec, Michael Jopling, Maria Sharapavo, Suzanne Mubarak

Hal Holbrook is an American actor, television director and writer. He is 95 years old and I don't know about any Heath issues that he has, but due yo hes advanced age you never now when they die.

A guy I worked with but didn't know that well had a habit of muttering absolute obscenities to do with women and farmyard animals into his phone I'm assuming he got what he wanted too, then

Dead.

ulous. They are mostly trying to throw out the mail-in votes. And those are all paper ballots.

Helen LaFrance (wiki), American artist, allegedly dead at 101.

I have recently unearthed several ecclesatical leaders, who are very aged or in frail health. Sadly, none of them are really famous enough to qualify for their own thread, but I would think most of them should get an obit in the UK. It has been a spiritually enriching experience, reading about the exploits of fine fellows below. Feel free to add any men of God I might have missed: Pope Shenouda III of Alexandria 17th March 2012 Archbishop Christodoulos 28th January 2008 Patriarch Maxim of Bulgaria 6th November 2012 Whakahuihui Vercoe of Rotorua 13th November 2007 Cahal Cardinal Daly 31st December 2009 Pavle, Patriarch of Serbia 15th November 2009 The Most Reverend and Most Holy Father, His Beatitude Ignatius IV, Patriarch of Antioch, the Great City of God, of Syria, Lebanon, Arabia, Cilicia, Mesopotamia and all the East 5th December 2012 I predict they will all be dead within 2 3 4 5 6 years.

Simple pool: pick three celebrities you think we'll see handling raw meat during 2021. Points are as follows: Globally recognised photo agency (Getty, AP, UPI, whichever) publishes a photo of your celebrity handling raw meat: 10 points Celebrity publishes social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Tiktok) photo or footage of them handling raw meat: 5 points DDP QO source contains print mention of your celebrity handling raw meat: 3 points Your celebrity handles raw meat on national television (footage must have been recorded in 2021): 1 point No points are awarded for cooked meat. Points can be awarded from different categories for the same incident (so if Yannick Bolasie publishes a snapchat of him making meatballs, and The Sun then does a story about it, that's 8 points). However, you can't get multiple points from the same category for the same incident (no matter how many Snapchats Yannick Bolasie sends, it's still only 5 points total from the social media category). Double points if the raw meat in question is a lamb chop. Any celebrity who is a chef by professional, has previously published recipes as either an amateur or professional, or is taking part in a televised cooking contest/show is disqualified from entering. If any of your celebrities die from salmonella, campylobacter or other uncooked-meat-related food poisoning, you lose 500 points.

These BBC4 tips have no staying power in 2020...

https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league/manly-sea-eagles-player-keith-titmuss-dies-aged-20-after-training-session-c-1635809 Manly Sea Eagles' Keith Titmuss dies after taking ill at training aged just 20.

Oh FFS. Another shortlister bites the dust!

Saw someone post this as a joke - how effective is it in real life, anyone know?

Peter "Wild Man" Mahoney, enforcer for rent-a-face former drug lord/current crime author Shaun Attwood, reported dead on Twitter by Atwood himself.

Anele Ngcongca, who played for South Africa at the 2010 tournament, has died in a car accident aged just 33. The only action at the tournament for him was 59 minutes in the 2-1 victory they had over that abject French side, but what a moment. https://www.enca.com/sport/anele-ngcongca-33-dies

Anele Ngcongca, a South African international with 53 caps accumulated between 2009 and 2016, has tragically been killed in a car accident in Cape Town. https://www.enca.com/sport/anele-ngcongca-33-dies The 33-year-old defensive midfielder had played in Europe for Belgian sides Roeselare and Genk, in France for Troyes and in his homeland for Fortune FC, Mamelodi Sundowns and, finally, AmaZulu where he had just joined on loan before his tragic death. He was a member of the South Africa squad at the 2010 World Cup - playing 59 minutes of their 2-1 win over France. He also featured in the Bafana Bafana squads for the subsequent 2013 Africa Cup of Nations, in which he played in all three group matches but missed the quarter-final loss on penalties to Mali and the 2015 Cup of Nations where he played in all three group matches as they went out bottom of that particular group.

Aye. Yet every single time...

Ice Bucket Challenge cofounder Pat Quinn dead at 37

Watched the Shirley MacLaine documentary on the TV earlier. Looking great considering she'll be 87 in 6 months. I imagine she'll be around for quite a few years yet.

Leonard Smith, who appeared in the 1944 film A Canterbury Tale aged 9 and a couple of follow up roles, reported dead here: https://www.britmovie.co.uk/forum/cinema/obituaries/95627-len-smith-rip

not bad

I'm in the mood for some André Maranne fan fiction. Anyone? Preferably some erotic story between him and the Pink Panther (comic version).

Oh, no! I was just going to phone him tonight. "Hello! Is it André Maranne speaking?" "Yes, I am André Maranne" "Are you alive?" "I suppose" "You sure?" "I am" "CoffinLodger still not conviced..." "Tell him to fuck off" A worthy call.

Bob Dole An early casualty of the Second American Civil War.

Lady Moyra Campbell, aristocrat and charity campaigner, dead at 90. Was a maid-of-honour at the Coronation of Queen Elizabeth II in 1953.