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Since the very notable names born in the 20s are fading out, here's a quick list, from 1924 to 1929, of the 10 people whose Wiki page was created the earliest, for each year.

 

1924

 

Jimmy Carter: former POTUS, Absolute King of Immortals, God of Deathlist

Robert G. Shulman: American biophysicist, doing very well.

Eve Marie Saint: American relic actress, in good health... 6 years ago.

Tomiichi Murayama: Japanese PM, minor issues here and there.

Khamtai Siphandone: likely on life support for a while, uberfrail.

Charlie Smith Dannelly: North Carolina State Senator, doing well.

Marshall Allen: Sun Ra Arkestra leader, doing unexplicably well for a hard-living character like him.

William H. Webster: former FBI director, doing very well.

Torsten Wiesel: Nobel Prize, doing very well despite having declined a bit recently.

Lee Adams: Lyricist.

 

1925

 

Leo Esaki: Nobel Prize, still doing very well.

Mahathir Mohamad: Malaysian legendary PM, extensive heart issues, miracolusly doing well.

Daniel J. Evans: senator and governor, frail but recently less frail than before.

Ann Fagan Ginger: political activist, still doing well.

Dick Van Dyke: DL legend, still doing very well.

Roy Haynes: Jazz legend, unexplicably alive despite hard living for 99 years.

Peter Murray: British DJ and DL pick, quite overdue at this point.

Alan Bergman: recently widowed composer.

Adele Addison: operatic singer, Van Vetchen's portrait, not seen in a while?

June Lockhart: Lessie's mum and perennial dead pool pick, not seen in a while?

 

1926

 

Mel Brooks: comedy legend, still well, but won't be a surprising death just in case.

David Attenborough: Brit legend who is reportedly doing well, but I think he has vastly declined recently.

Alan Greenspan: US economist, fading from the public scene quickly.

Jean-Pierre Serre: French mathematical genius, still acting as he is in his 30s, but for how long?

Tsung Dao-lee: Nobel Prize and Immortal, not seen in years.

Lou Donaldson: Jazz saxophonist and another unexplicably longeve guy.

Gyorgy Kurtag: legendary composer, still giving interviews last year.

Abdoulaye Wade: Senegalese president and Immortal. Rumoured dead multiple times, but seemingly unsinkable.

Roscoe Bartlett: Legendary US representative, now living off-grid. 

George Ariyoshi: Hawaii governor, very frail for years.

 

1927

 

William J. Perry: Secretary of Defense who was scammed by Theranos, doing incredibly well.

Herbert Blomstedt: Swedish conductor, hospitalised in December, but still working.

Vernon L. Smith: autistic Nobel Prize, unsinkable.

John Kander: composer, doing very well.

Pierre Alechinsky: fuck, is he still alive? Major avant garde artist.

Doc Severinsen: Jonny Carson's sidekick, doing well.

LK Advani: BJP patriarch, frail.

Marcel Ophuls: another one "still fucking alive"?

William Labov: apparently huge name in sociology.

Leontyne Price: American soprano, a bit overdue at this point.

 

1928

 

Desmond Morris: ethologist, DL pick, doing well.

James Watson: Nobel Prize who faked dying for years in order to avoid obvious controversies stemming from his ideas.

Noam Chomsky: DL pick, on the brink of death for months.

Tom Lehrer: legendary comedic songwriter, very reclusive.

Jean Marie Le Pen: immortal patriarch of French right wing, hospitalised multiple times in recent years, bit overdue.

Zhu Rongji: Chinese PM, has suffered from Parkinson's for the last ten years, permanently hospitalised for five years.

Hans Blix: OH, NO, HANS BRIX!

Elias James Corey: Nobel Prize, father of the retrosynthetic approach and known in the field to be quite a slaver.

John Little: MIT professor, Little's law namesake.

Dr. Ruth Westheimer: survived massive stroke last year.

 

1929

 

Jurgen Habermas: disfigured German sociologist, WW2 veteran.

Frank Gehry: legendary architect.

Len Deighton: British writer who feels a bit overdue.

Bob Newhart: Comedic genius who has been dying for the last five years.

Alfred Moisiu: Overweight Albanian president, doing incredibly well.

Eddie Stobart: agriculture fuhrer of UK, not seen in a while?

Hal Lindsey: apocalyptic prophet, not seen in years.

Eric Kandel: Nobel Prize, doing well as you expect from decrepit academics.

Jim Whittaker: legendary climber and mountaineer, going strong.

Ramon Luis Rivera: Puerto Rican retired politician, looks frail.

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On 18/04/2024 at 14:13, Ulitzer95 said:

Thought I'd follow on from Alfred Hitchcock Presents by looking at Tales of the Unexpected. I've covered both the original U.S. and longer running U.K. series.


1940s births: Ralph Bates (1940–1991), Gary Bond (1940–1995), Roy Lonnen (1940–2014), Anne Carroll MBE (1940–2018), Brian Osborne (1940–2021), Sir Michael Gambon CBE (1940–2023), John Alderton (born 1940), Seán Barrett (born 1940), John Castle (born 1940), Pauline Collins OBE (born 1940), Stefan Kalipha (born 1940), Charles Keatin (1941–2014), John Forgeham (1941–2017), Andrew MacLachlan (1941–2018), Geoffrey Beevers (born 1941), Jeremy Clyde (born 1941), Stephanie Cole OBE (born 1941), Forbes Collins (born 1941), Ellen Geer (born 1941), Miriam Margolyes OBE (born 1941), Roy Marsden (born 1941), June Ritchie (born 1941), Sheila Gish (1942–2005), Jennifer Hilary (1942–2008), Carol Lynley (1942–2019), Beth Porter (1942–2023), Helen Fraser (born 1942), Constantine Gregory (born 1942), Oscar James (born 1942), Jenny O’Hara (born 1942), Joanna Pettet (born 1942), Jo Rowbottom (born 1942), Kenneth Tigar (born 1942), Charles Hallahan (1943–1997), Kevin Dobson (1943–2020), Alison Fiske (1943–2020), Gayle Hunnicutt (1943–2023), John Beck (born 1943), Gary Burghoff (born 1943), Max Gail (born 1943), Sharon Gless (born 1943), Michael Byrne (born 1943), Maureen O’Brien (born 1943), Roger Rees (1944–2015), Frank Sinatra Jr. (1944–2016), Sondra Locke (1944–2018), Stephen Greif (1944–2022), Richard Barnes (born 1944), Keith Drinkel (born 1944), Cyd Hayman (born 1944), Vivien Heilbron (born 1944), Sandra Payne (born 1944), Patricia Quinn (born 1944), John Wyman (born 1944), Michael N. Harbour (1945–2009), Gareth Thomas (1945–2016), Andrew Burt (1945–2018), Michael Brandon (born 1945), Gretchen Corbett (born 1945), Hugh Fraser (born 1945), Elaine Giftos (born 1945), Michael Melia (born 1945), Tamara Ustinov (born 1945), Jane Asher (born 1946), Nicholas Ball (born 1946), Brenda Blethyn OBE (born 1946), Tom Chadbon (born 1946), Charles Dance OBE (born 1946), Peter Egan (born 1946), Hayley Mills (born 1946), Michael Ontkean (born 1946), Sheila Ruskin (born 1946), Sir David Suchet CBE (born 1946), Stuart Wilson (born 1946), Carl Andrews (1947–1990), James Aubrey (1947–2010), Warren Clarke (1947–2014), Lois Baxter (born 1947), Brian Capron (born 1947), Jan Francis (born 1947), Anthony Higgins (born 1947), Andrew Hilton (born 1947), Tony Osoba (born 1947), Paul Seed (born 1947), James Warwick (born 1947), Lynette Davies (1948–1993), William Hootkins (1948–2005), Amanda Boxer (born 1948), Bud Cort (born 1948), Carol Drinkwater (born 1948), Sharon Duce (born 1948), James Faulkner (born 1948), Nicholas Field (born 1948), Judy Geeson (born 1948), Philip Jackson (born 1948), Michael Kitchen (born 1948), Elaine Paige OBE (born 1948), Frances Tomlety (born 1948), Christopher Blake (1949–2004), Celia Gregory (1949–2008), Ed Begley Jr. (born 1949), Jim Broadbent (born 1949), John Duttine (born 1949), Julian Fellowes (born 1949), Bosco Hogan (born 1949), Don Johnson (born 1949), Hazel McBride (born 1949), Susan Penhaligon (born 1949), Lill Roughley (born 1949), Bernice Stegers (born 1949), Pamela Stephenson (born 1949), Zoë Wanamaker CBE (born 1949)

Nicholas Ball a goner: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-13501669/EastEnders-Hazell-actor-Nicholas-Ball-dies-aged-78.html

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So Nicholas has dropped his balls... :facepalm:

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Continuing with the above list from 1930 to 1934.

 

1930

Gene Hackman: legendary actor, looks very wough nowadays.

Gary Snyder: American hippy poet, quite frail.

Stephen Smale: one of the greatest mathematician of the last century, and often suspected of un-American activities. Off the radar for a while.

Clint Eastwood: A-lister filmmaker, doing well despite having recently declined a bit.

Jasper Johns: contemporary artist, doing well?

Buzz Aldrin: original moonwalker, recently declined a bit. Stay away from flying aircrafts!

Marie Bashir: longtime governor of New South Wales.

Bilijana Plavsic: Yugoslav war criminal, was in critical condition with COVID during the pandemic.

Vigdis Finnbogadottir: Icelandic president, in excellent health.

José Sarney: Immortal Brazilian dictator, has suffered many ailments inclunding pleural effusion, strokes and serious falls in recent years.

 

1931

Heisuke Hironaka: Great Japanese mathematician, doing great in May 2024, frequently interviewed by the media.

Leslie Caron: actress and dancer, has been frail for a few years.

Rupert Murdoch: Australian mogul, serious health issues do not seem to affect him that much.

Roger Penrose: Mathematical genius, Nobel Prize winner and controversial philosopher, doing astoundingly well.

John Milnor: huge mathematician of the 20th century, health has probably declined in the last few years.

Willie Mays: HoF baseball player, doing well but a bit frail

Edwin Meese: US attorney general, still active in law and politics.

Norman Tebbit: decrepit right wing politician, in failing health for years.

Marjorie Jackson-Nelson: Governor of South Australia and Olympic athlete. Quite off the spotlight now.

Jean Berko Gleason: psycholinguist, doing very well.

 

1932

The Wizard of New Zealand: political activist and nutshell, frail but still active.

Walter Gilbert: Nobel Prize, doing well like those old immortal academics.

Jacques Roubaud: French poet and mathematician.

Louis de Branges de Bourcia: French-American mathematician, not heard so much nowadays.

Alvin Plantinga: huge American philosopher, still active?

Lady Antonia Fraser: British writer, survived a serious fall some years ago, has been on borrowed time for a while.

Erró: Iceland greatest painter.

John Searle: philosopher and alleged molester, now quite under the radar.

Roy Hattersley: Brit politician, doing well though a bit decrepit.

John Williams: legendary composer, bounced back from rough health.

 

1933

Roman Polanski: director and nonce, doing depressingly well.

Yoko Ono: pain in the ass, suffered from Lewy body dementia for years, fucking overdue.

Amartya Sen: Nobel Prize winner, suffered from every type of cancer for fifty years, fucking overdue.

Joan Collins: actress, doing extremely well.

John Burgee: architect, disciple of Philip Johnson, a bit off the spotlight now.

Michael Caine: legendary for his film with Steven Seagal, frail but overall doing well.

Michael Heseltine: Brit politician, doing incredibly well.

James Meredith: civil rights icon, fell last year during his 90th birthday celebrations and looks a bit frail.

Michael Dukakis: losing presidential candidate, doing well. Not so his wife.

Al McCoy: Pheonic Suns announcer, retired last year, but still ocasionally commenting.

 

1934

Alan Garner: British novelist, doing well?

Brigitte Bardot: French sex symbol of the 60s. Multiple health issues, most recently on oxygen for respiratory failure.

Bud Selig: baseball commisioner, looks good due to a pact with the devil and his hairdresser.

Piers Anthony: science-fiction writer, the classic name who could drop dead at any moment.

Ralph Nader: legendary political activist and a clean bill of health.

Wole Soyinka: Nobel Prize for literature, prostate cancer sufferer, variously rumored dead.

Tony Hoare: one of the greatest computer scientists, these guys seem to go on forever.

Sophia Loren: Italian sex symbol, suffered serious fall last year but bounced back.

Carlo Rubbia: Nobel Prize winner and senator, doing very well.

Jane Goodall: legendary ecologist, doing incredibly well.

 

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On 14/05/2022 at 09:41, The Immortal said:

Singer Halsey has been diagnosed with at least 4 different autoimmune conditions recently (POTS and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome being the most serious of these) and potentially has a 5th, she has also suffered from multiple bouts of Anaphylaxis (severe allergic reactions) and claims she has been sick for "most of her adult life", but that things have worsened since the birth of her son. She still claims her concert tour will go ahead, but let's see what happens.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/halsey-health-issues-tour-dates-1351498/

Not sure if mentioned yet, but Halsey apparently has lupus and some form of leukemia too:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyrrpylp8ego

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So i'm making a list of people who have attended the Met Gala (mainly focusing on those who attended before 1990s) and have found a socialite called Deeda Blair. Can't find much information about her, other than she gave this interview in 2022 and was still alive.

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The finale of Inside No.9 aired about half an hour ago and it brought back a lot of cast members from its 9 season run, of the older cast there were, in my opinion, 4 notable absences to potentially keep an eye on.

 

1. Sir Derek Jacobi - Only actor other than Steve and Reece to be in two separate episodes, most likely just too busy.

2. Timothy West - Appeared in the very first episode but wasn't featured in the ensemble from that episode or in the crowd, potentially retired from acting.

3. Julian Glover - Appeared in a season 6 episode, maybe he was too busy but according to IMDb he doesn't seem to have a lot on.

4. Stephanie Cole - Was the main guest star of the live episode in 2018, I would put money on her having been invited, probably the one I'm most worried about.

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On 12/06/2024 at 22:59, Commtech Sio Bibble said:

4. Stephanie Cole - Was the main guest star of the live episode in 2018, I would put money on her having been invited, probably the one I'm most worried about.

Maybe her wait for god is about to be over. 

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On 12/06/2024 at 22:59, Commtech Sio Bibble said:

4. Stephanie Cole - Was the main guest star of the live episode in 2018, I would put money on her having been invited, probably the one I'm most worried about.

 

See I'd noticed elsewhere that Cole didn't return for the last series of Ed Reardon's Week, which she'd been in for nearly 20 years, and wondered if that indicated she was one to keep an eye on. But then IMDB says she made regular appearances on the 2023 season of Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway. I checked and she did a bunch of skits as Stephen Mulherne's grandmother, so idk what to think:

 

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Australian TikTok Boss Govind Sandhu has stage 4 non-Hodgkins Lymphoma:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13521007/Fit-healthy-Aussie-TikTok-boss-diagnosed-stage-four-cancer-noticing-odd-symptom-following-half-marathon.html

 

That alone might not be all that fatal but they also found abnormalities on his heart and pancreas, so... watch this space.

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On 06/06/2024 at 08:23, drol said:

1927

William Labov: apparently huge name in sociology.

 

I have him on my 2024 Shadow List. Huge in linguistics and has long since retired but does put out a paper now and again from what I can tell but can’t find much on his actual health. Could well bank on a Guardian obit here I think.

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would it be too much of a low hanging fruit to think of including Marita Quirós? (wiki) she was the former first lady of costa rica and is currently 113 (im positive, at least). 

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On 25/06/2024 at 01:20, jimbean1121 said:

would it be too much of a low hanging fruit to think of including Marita Quirós? (wiki) she was the former first lady of costa rica and is currently 113 (im positive, at least). 

Although at that age it's odds on you would die hence why supercentenarians even notable ones don't make the list :ghost3:

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39 minutes ago, Miranda lass said:

Although at that age it's odds on you would die hence why supercentenarians even notable ones don't make the list :ghost3:

TBF, they had Ruby Muhammad on the list in 2007 when she was "110"

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On 29/04/2024 at 09:45, Bibliogryphon said:

ImageMichael Eavis in a wheelchair being knighted 

 

Mentioned on the BBC News tonight that he was not present for the traditional opening of the gates at Glastonbury this morning, only Emily was there. Reporter noted it's the first time they can remember that he has not been in attendance, although he did add that he is expected to make an appearance on the stage at some point. Thought it worth noting.

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Posted (edited)

Longtime sports handicapper/tout Dave Cokin has terminal cancer and has “opted to pass on chemo and let nature take its course”.  He’s worked for several outlets over the years and is a regular contributor to Wagertalk on YouTube.

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Keeping the name of this thread in mind, Cokin advises friends not to count on receiving a Christmas present from him.

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10 hours ago, polar duck said:

TBF, they had Ruby Muhammad on the list in 2007 when she was "110"

well unlike ruby, Marita's age is verified so there wouldn't be trouble 

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British Swimmer Archie Goodburn, who competed for Scotland in 2022 Commonwealth games,  has announced on instagram he has been diagnosed with an inoperable rare type of brain tumour. He is having chemo and radiotherapy and according to this statement those treatments do work on this slow growing form of tumour but I’m not sure it’s curable still.. 

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Disclaimer: Crem quoted below. Spoilertagged for those who do not wish to read his input. However, from a death pooling perspective, this might actually be one to pay attention to.

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15 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

British Swimmer Archie Goodburn, who competed for Scotland in 2022 Commonwealth games,  has announced on instagram he has been diagnosed with an inoperable rare type of brain tumour. He is having chemo and radiotherapy and according to this statement those treatments do work on this slow growing form of tumour but I’m not sure it’s curable still.. 

 

Looking into the type of tumour he has, oligodendroglioma, it should seem that, while it is inoperable, it seems to have a five-year survival rate of 74%, so he may not be one for 2025. However, he also details in his post that, due to the slow-growing nature of the tumours, they may have gone undetected for years. Make of this what you will. I hope that he is coping the best he can given the circumstances, and that he has much more life in him. Discussion on a mortality forum is not something that should happen about someone 23 years old.

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On 26/06/2024 at 14:23, Miranda lass said:

Although at that age it's odds on you would die hence why supercentenarians even notable ones don't make the list :ghost3:

To be fair how many actually notable supercentenarians (for reasons other than age) have there actually been? I can think of Ruthie Thompson, Gina Lollobrigida’s aunt (lol), Frederica Sagor Maas, and that’s about it. A former First Lady making it to 113 is pretty incredible

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We already forgetting my boy Alexander Imich? 

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Zhou Youguang, Qin Hanzhang, Zheng Ji, Shi Ping.

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