The Old Crem 3,180 Posted February 8 On his deathbed and not expected to live much longer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 10,057 Posted February 8 That site is heavily biased. He has been hospitalised two months but now is at home requiring round-the-clock care. Nobody says he is on his deathbed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,099 Posted February 8 1 minute ago, drol said: That site is heavily biased. He has been hospitalised two months but now is at home requiring round-the-clock care. Nobody says he is on his deathbed. Well... I've had a quick scan of Xmusk, seems to have fallen ill in America some months ago. There's stuff from the family talking about finalising his final works. It's looking like a hit for Here's Who You Could Have Won in 2024, I don't see him making 2025. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 17,762 Posted February 8 15 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Well... It's looking like a hit for Here's Who You Could Have Won in 2024, I don't see him making 2025. That's my oldies team. So here's hoping! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,099 Posted February 8 Interesting to note that the film Denial about the libel case lost Tom Wilkinson last year, shortly after Richard Rampton also died. If Irving does go, keep a close eye on Timothy Spall then! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,099 Posted February 20 Is he history? Seems so... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,099 Posted February 20 Just now, Joey Russ said: No loss Well, source seems reliable, but obviously I would have expected a family statement by now, or a news report. Let's see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 12,180 Posted February 20 Oh that's a right old shame that 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 11,085 Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Joey Russ said: No loss Hoffman’s tweet above is accurate. His books on history were some of the best ever written. He let himself down once he tried to revise the image of Hitler and disappeared down a rabbit hole of asking too many questions about the Holocaust. His original books are still excellent reads and give an incredible insight into various periods of history. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,464 Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Well, source seems reliable, but obviously I would have expected a family statement by now, or a news report. Let's see. You realise that denying his death is a criminal offence? The punishment is six months sharing a cell with the Creepy one. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,099 Posted February 20 1 minute ago, harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy said: You realise that denying his death is a criminal offence? The punishment is six months sharing a cell with the Creepy one. Hadn't realised Ricky Gervais was in the jail. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 1,618 Posted February 20 He's a DDP Unique this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,099 Posted February 20 On 08/02/2024 at 11:04, YoungWillz said: Well... I've had a quick scan of Xmusk, seems to have fallen ill in America some months ago. There's stuff from the family talking about finalising his final works. It's looking like a hit for Here's Who You Could Have Won in 2024, I don't see him making 2025. On 08/02/2024 at 11:20, msc said: That's my oldies team. So here's hoping! 3 minutes ago, Summer in Transylvania said: He's a DDP Unique this year. We know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CastAway 475 Posted February 20 1 hour ago, YoungWillz said: Well, source seems reliable, but obviously I would have expected a family statement by now, or a news report. Let's see. Wonder if this is a case where the family would rather see him buried before announcing anything (for obvious reasons) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimreaper 501 Posted February 20 2 hours ago, harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy said: You realise that denying his death is a criminal offence? The punishment is six months sharing a cell with the Creepy one. This would make a great plot for the film, Denial 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,290 Posted February 20 3 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: Hoffman’s tweet above is accurate. His books on history were some of the best ever written. He let himself down once he tried to revise the image of Hitler and disappeared down a rabbit hole of asking too many questions about the Holocaust. His original books are still excellent reads and give an incredible insight into various periods of history. I'm not sure about that. The Destruction of Dresden (1963) always seemed a pretty myopic account of events to me. Although lauded at the time of publication, my understanding is that more recently it has been found that Irving based his findings on a forged Nazi document and long interviews with a single witness who had his own agenda when describing what he saw. I haven't read his other works though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polar duck 481 Posted February 21 8 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Is he history? Seems so... Denial. 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,099 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, polar duck said: Denial. Ah well, thought it unlikely after the hours waiting on a confirmation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,023 Posted February 21 Did he deny the holocaust happened at all, or did he just revise the number downwards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,464 Posted February 21 Somebody, for their own ideological reasons, has deliberately misrepresented and manipulated historical evidence. They have distorted the history of the coroner’s role. Mr Irving does not even use a gas oven, his house is furnished with electrical appliances only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tango854 207 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Youth in Asia said: Did he deny the holocaust happened at all, or did he just revise the number downwards? Just so you know, you are going to hell for defending Known Neo-Nazi and Holocaust Denier David Irving. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,023 Posted February 21 I wasn't defending him (obviously) I just can't remember what his argument was (although it seems I also contributed to this thread 18 years ago!) Edit: from his Wikipedia article he seems to be a massive Fanboy of Hitler, from childhood, rather than specifically interested in the Jewish question (except to argue Hitler had no knowledge of it and other members of Nazi leadership were responsible). His leading role in exposing the 1983 Hitler diaries as fake is also something I wasn't aware of. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
