DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted April 30 Looking well for a man that will be 90 this year. One for future deathlists 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 526 Posted April 30 4 hours ago, Deathrace said: Not sure if Kenneth Baker counts (Minister of State for Industry from 1981) but he's still doing interviews in support of Rishi Sunak Arguably he counts because he was within Thatcher's government in a relatively important MoS role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,131 Posted April 30 In case you'd forgotten him: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted November 6 John Nott has died according to his daughter. 8 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,595 Posted November 6 Nott selected in DDP. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,029 Posted November 6 David Howell and Michael Heseltine from the OP remain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 878 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, time said: Nott selected in DDP. That's a shame considering his ag- oh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,644 Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, Sean said: Unique hit for me. When Robin Day described him as "here today and gone tomorrow" over 40 years ago he hadn't a fucking clue 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,578 Posted November 6 47 minutes ago, drunkasaskunk said: NOTT OUT John Nott Breathing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,086 Posted November 7 2 hours ago, maryportfuncity said: When Robin Day described him as "here today and gone tomorrow" over 40 years ago he hadn't a fucking clue One of the worst predictions in political history Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slackhurst Broadcasting 374 Posted November 7 Was that the tv interview Nott walked out on? I don't blame him, Robin Day's smugness was insufferable. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,644 Posted November 7 5 hours ago, Slackhurst Broadcasting said: Was that the tv interview Nott walked out on? I don't blame him, Robin Day's smugness was insufferable. Yeah, the gist of it was Day was quizzing Nott about changes to the Royal Navy and the "here today, gone tomorrow" jibe was delivered in the context of asking why the public should believe a transient politician's opinion over that of a career long navy officer when it came to what was best for the seagoing service. BBC are playing it as part of their coverage of Nott's deeath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drunkasaskunk 194 Posted November 7 9 hours ago, Slackhurst Broadcasting said: Was that the tv interview Nott walked out on? I don't blame him, Robin Day's smugness was insufferable. John Tusa - who is still alive - introduced the clip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,578 Posted November 7 21 hours ago, The Old Crem said: John Nott has died according to his daughter. The death of Sir John Nott means that Sir John Major and Sir Malcolm Rifkind are the only surviving members from any of Thatcher's Cabinets who never got elevated to the Lords. A bit of a shite fact, I know, but interesting that none of them accepted a peerage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,437 Posted November 7 2 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: The death of Sir John Nott means that Sir John Major and Sir Malcolm Rifkind are the only surviving members from any of Thatcher's Cabinets who never got elevated to the Lords. A bit of a shite fact, I know, but interesting that none of them accepted a peerage. I had wondered if Rifkind not being in the HoL was linked to that mini-scandal in 2015, despite being cleared, as Jack Straw never got a peerage either. But no, turns out he's opposed to an unelected second house and wants it reformed instead. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,578 Posted November 7 1 hour ago, msc said: I had wondered if Rifkind not being in the HoL was linked to that mini-scandal in 2015, despite being cleared, as Jack Straw never got a peerage either. But no, turns out he's opposed to an unelected second house and wants it reformed instead. Rifkind was later cleared of any wrongdoing in that incident. I know from mutual friends that he was incredibly upset about have to resign his seats. He wanted very much to continue as an MP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 7 I think his death has been underplayed in the media.I mean he was the defence secretary through a war and the coverage has been so muted that it seems insulting.Which is fitting seeing as he is best known for being belittled by the media as his most memorable moment. I do think Sir Robin Day was being an arsehole in the iconic snd simultaneously infamous clip for what it's worth though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 7 15 hours ago, maryportfuncity said: Yeah, the gist of it was Day was quizzing Nott about changes to the Royal Navy and the "here today, gone tomorrow" jibe was delivered in the context of asking why the public should believe a transient politician's opinion over that of a career long navy officer when it came to what was best for the seagoing service. BBC are playing it as part of their coverage of Nott's deeath. Imagine being the defence secretary during a war and that is the only clip they show of you when you die over 40 years later shows he was right to walk out IMHO.As a history buff I would have loved a proper impartial assessment of Notts time as Defence Secretary and to have associated footage and context to a pivotal moment in British Post War history but the BBC just ran with the laziest tabloid take on this man's death. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,131 Posted November 8 1 hour ago, Sean said: Imagine being the defence secretary during a war and that is the only clip they show of you when you die over 40 years later shows he was right to walk out The reason they show it is because he walked out! If he hadn't, it wouldn't have been so memorable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comped 526 Posted November 8 10 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: The death of Sir John Nott means that Sir John Major and Sir Malcolm Rifkind are the only surviving members from any of Thatcher's Cabinets who never got elevated to the Lords. Major declined one after retiring. I wonder if he'd have also denied an Earldom (or better) if the Queen had offered... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
