The Chequered Flag

[Ulitzer95 12,853]

3 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Correct. It’s the Nickname of one I’ve visited more than once.

Christ. Not a necrophile, are you? 

[arghton 6,876]

The others from the 70s:

 

Emerson Fittipaldi, 1972 and 1974 (1946-) Doesn't look great?

Mario Andretti, 1978 (1940-) Lost wife and sister in 2018, nephew and twin brother in 2020. 

Jody Scheckter, 1979 (1950-) Daughter died of a drug overdose in 2019 but Jody seems to be in good health. 

The 1980s have Alan Jones, Nelson Piquet, Keke Rosberg and Alain Prost. Rosberg looks like a bit like Jack Nicholson nowadays.

 

 

The US (currently) have much more longevity with their 60s NASCAR Cup Series champions:

 

First of all Richard Petty 1964, 1967, 1971, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1979 (1937-), who however isn't the earliest or the oldest NASCAR Cup Series Champion living:

There's nonagenarian Rex White, 1960 (1929-) and cancer survivor Ned Jarrett, 1961 and 1965 (1932-).

And suprisingly only one other person living to have won the cup series in the 1970s, Cale Yarborough 1976-1978 (1939-2023)

Not sure if White has ever been mentioned here before. Survived polio as a child 

[The Immortal 644]

11 hours ago, arghton said:

The others from the 70s:

 

Emerson Fittipaldi, 1972 and 1974 (1946-) Doesn't look great?

Mario Andretti, 1978 (1940-) Lost wife and sister in 2018, nephew and twin brother in 2020. 

Jody Scheckter, 1979 (1950-) Daughter died of a drug overdose in 2019 but Jody seems to be in good health. 

The 1980s have Alan Jones, Nelson Piquet, Keke Rosberg and Alain Prost. Rosberg looks like a bit like Jack Nicholson nowadays.

 

 

The US (currently) have much more longevity with their 60s NASCAR Cup Series champions:

 

First of all Richard Petty 1964, 1967, 1971, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1979 (1937-), who however isn't the earliest or the oldest NASCAR Cup Series Champion living:

There's nonagenarian Rex White, 1960 (1929-) and cancer survivor Ned Jarrett, 1961 and 1965 (1932-).

And suprisingly only one other person living to have won the cup series in the 1970s, Cale Yarborough 1976-1978 (1939-)

Not sure if White has ever been mentioned here before. Survived polio as a child 

I think the old Indycar drivers have done better in longevity and health compared to the F1 and NASCAR drivers.

 

You already mentioned Andretti but I will add he is still in incredible health for his age, still does tours at Indy speedway in a 2-seater Indycar.

Gordon Johncock (2 time Indy 500 winner) is still alive and is still in pretty good shape for an 85 year old man.

A.J Foyt (4 time Indy 500 winner) has had his close calls with death in recent years (like the time he was attacked by bees for example) but has been doing pretty good as of now and I can see him holding off the grim reaper for a couple more years.

Johnny Rutherford (3 time Indy 500 winner) looks incredibly amazing for his age and I definitely do not see him dying any time soon.

Al Unser Sr (4 time Indy 500 winner) also appears to be in great health as well seeing his recent photo while attending the 2021 Indy 500. Al's brother Bobby Unser was still in pretty good health around 2 years before his death. Even Parnelli Jones was active 4-5 years ago even though he is now in poor health.

 

Compared to 60s and 70s F1 and NASCAR winners, I think the 60s and 70s Indycar and Indy 500 winners have won the longevity race.

 

 

 

[maryportfuncity 10,684]

12 hours ago, arghton said:

The others from the 70s:

 

Emerson Fittipaldi, 1972 and 1974 (1946-) Doesn't look great?

Mario Andretti, 1978 (1940-) Lost wife and sister in 2018, nephew and twin brother in 2020. 

Jody Scheckter, 1979 (1950-) Daughter died of a drug overdose in 2019 but Jody seems to be in good health. 

The 1980s have Alan Jones, Nelson Piquet, Keke Rosberg and Alain Prost. Rosberg looks like a bit like Jack Nicholson nowadays.

 

 

The US (currently) have much more longevity with their 60s NASCAR Cup Series champions:

 

First of all Richard Petty 1964, 1967, 1971, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1979 (1937-), who however isn't the earliest or the oldest NASCAR Cup Series Champion living:

There's nonagenarian Rex White, 1960 (1929-) and cancer survivor Ned Jarrett, 1961 and 1965 (1932-).

And suprisingly only one other person living to have won the cup series in the 1970s, Cale Yarborough 1976-1978 (1939-)

Not sure if White has ever been mentioned here before. Survived polio as a child 

 

 

So, the "drug overdose" that took Ila Scheckter - bit more complicated than it sounds. OoO may have the inside track on this but...she developed a brain tumour, had major surgery, developed epilepsy in the aftermath of that and suffered extreme anxiety, which put turbo boosters under her drug use. All round mess with a fair amount of random extreme bad luck. If I recall rightly, Jody Scheckter had taken to attending open meetings of Narcotics Anonymous in a bid to help her.

 

 

 

 

[RoverAndOut 4,755]

All F1 race winners 1950-1980:

 

Giuseppe Farina (1950 WC) - 30/10/1906-30/6/66 ( 59 - car crash on way to event)

Juan Manuel Fangio (1950, 1954-57 WC) - 24/6/11-17/7/95 (84 - kidney failure)

Johnnie Parsons (Indy 500 Winner) - 4/7/18-8/9/84 (66 - heart attack)

Lee Wallard (Indy 500 Winner) - 7/9/1910-29/11/63 (53 - heart attack, severely burned earlier)

Luigi Fagioli (oldest ever F1 winner) - 9/6/1898-20/6/52 (54 - internal injuries after accident at Monaco Grand Prix)

Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 5/10/22-15/6/2013 (90 - respiratory failure)

Alberto Ascari (1952-53 WC) - 13/7/18-26/5/55 (36 - fatal testing accident)

Piero Taruffi - 12/10/1906-12/1/88 (81 - unknown causes)

Troy Ruttman (Indy 500 Winner) - 11/3/30-19/5/97 (67 - lung cancer)

Bill Vukovich (Indy 500 Winner) - 13/12/18-30/5/55 (36 - killed at Indy 500)

Mike Hawthorn (1958 WC) - 10/4/29-22/1/59 (29 - civilian car accident)

Bob Sweikert (Indy 500 Winner) - 20/5/26-17/6/56 (30 - killed during race)

Luigi Musso - 28/7/24-6/7/58 (33 - killed at French Grand Prix)

Pat Flaherty (Indy 500 Winner) - 6/1/26-9/4/2002 (76 - heart attack)

Stirling Moss - 17/9/29-12/4/2020 (91 - chest infection)

Peter Collins - 6/11/31-3/8/58 (27 - killed at German Grand Prix)

Sam Hanks (Indy 500 Winner)  - 13/7/14-27/6/94 (79 - various illnesses)

Maurice Trintignant - 30/10/17-13/2/2005 (87 - uknown causes)

Jimmy Bryan (Indy 500 Winner) - 28/1/26-19/6/60 (34 - killed during race)

Tony Brooks - 25/2/32 (aged 89 - Oldest Living Race Winner)

Jack Brabham (1959-60, 1966 WC) - 2/4/26-19/5/2014 (88 - liver disease)

Rodger Ward (Indy 500 Winner) - 10/1/21-5/7/2004 (83 - unknown causes)

Jo Bonnier - 31/1/30-11/6/72 (42 - killed at Le Mans 24 hrs)

Bruce McLaren - 30/8/37-2/6/70 (32 - fatal testing accident)

Jim Rathmann - 16/7/28-23/11/2011 (83 - seizure)

Phil Hill (1961 WC) - 20/4/27-28/8/2008 (81 - complications from Parkinsons)

Wolfgang von Trips - 4/5/28-10/9/61 (33 - killed at Italian Grand Prix)

Giancarlo Baghetti - 25/12/34-27/11/95 (60 - cancer)

Innes Ireland - 12/6/30-22/10/93 (63 - cancer)

Graham Hill (1962, 1968 WC) - 15/2/29-29/11/75 (46 - plane crash)

Jim Clark (1963, 1965 WC) - 4/3/36-7/4/68 (32 - killed during race)

Dan Gurney - 13/4/31-14/1/2018 (86 - pneumonia)

John Surtees (1964 WC) - 11/2/34-10/3/2017 (83 - respiratory failure)

Lorenzo Bandini - 21/12/35-10/5/67 (31 - severe injuries after crash at Monaco Grand Prix)

Richie Ginther - 5/8/30-20/9/89 (59 - heart attack)

Ludovico Scarfiotti - 18/10/33-8/6/68 (34 - killed during race)

Pedro Rodriguez - 18/1/40-11/6/71 (31 - killed during race)

Denny Hulme (1967 WC) - 18/6/36-4/10/92 (56 - heart attack during race)

Jackie Stewart (1969, 1971, 1973 WC) - 11/6/39 (aged 82)

Jacky Ickx - 1/1/45 (aged 76)

Jo Siffert - 7/7/36-24/10/71 (35 - killed during race)

Jochen Rindt (1970 WC) - 18/4/42-5/9/70 (28 - killed at Italian Grand Prix - only posthumous WC)

Clay Regazzoni - 5/9/39-15/12/2006 (67 - civilian car accident)

Emerson Fittipaldi (1972, 1974 WC) - 12/12/46 (aged 74)

Mario Andretti (1978 WC) - 28/2/40 (aged 81)

Peter Gethin - 21/2/40-5/12/2011 (71 - cancer)

Francois Cevert - 25/2/44-6/10/73 (29 - killed at US Grand Prix)

Jean-Pierre Beltoise - 26/4/37-5/1/2015 (77 - stroke)

Ronnie Peterson - 14/2/44-11/9/78 (34 - fatal injuries at Italian Grand Prix)

Peter Revson - 27/2/39-22/3/74 (35 - fatal testing accident)

Carlos Reutemann - 12/4/42-7/7/2021 (79 - intestinal haemorrhage)

Niki Lauda (1975, 1977, 1984 WC) - 22/2/49-20/5/19 (70 - kidney problems)

Jody Scheckter (1979 WC) - 29/1/50 (aged 71)

Carlos Pace - 6/10/44-18/3/77 (32 - plane crash)

Jochen Mass - 30/9/46 (aged 75)

James Hunt (1976 WC) - 29/8/47-15/6/93 (45 - heart attack)

Vittorio Brambilla - 11/11/37-26/5/2001 (63 - heart attack)

John Watson - 4/5/46 (aged 75)

Gunnar Nilsson - 20/11/48-20/10/78 (29 - testicular cancer)

Jacques Laffite - 21/11/43 (aged 77)

Gilles Villeneuve - 18/1/50-8/5/82 (32 - killed at Belgian Grand Prix)

Patrick Depailler - 9/8/44-1/8/80 (35 - fatal testing accident)

Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 1/10/42 (aged 79)

Alan Jones (1980 WC) - 2/11/46 (aged 75)

Rene Arnoux - 4/7/48 (aged 73)

Nelson Piquet (1981, 1983, 1987 WC) - 17/8/52 (aged 69)

Didier Pironi - 26/3/52-23/8/87 (35 - accident during powerboat race)

 

Just 13 of 67 race winners prior to 1980 are still alive. When Tony Brooks dies, Jackie Stewart will also become the oldest living race winner, in addition to the oldest living World Champion. For those who don't know, the Indy 500 counted towards the F1 World Championship until 1960, hence their inclusion here. Only 27 of the 54 who've died did so of natural causes, and 23 of the 67 didn't make it to 40 - and that's just the winners. The Killing Years, indeed.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

3 hours ago, RoverAndOut said:

All F1 race winners 1950-1980:

 

Giuseppe Farina (1950 WC) - 30/10/1906-30/6/66 ( 59 - car crash on way to event)

Juan Manuel Fangio (1950, 1954-57 WC) - 24/6/11-17/7/95 (84 - kidney failure)

Johnnie Parsons (Indy 500 Winner) - 4/7/18-8/9/84 (66 - heart attack)

Lee Wallard (Indy 500 Winner) - 7/9/1910-29/11/63 (53 - heart attack, severely burned earlier)

Luigi Fagioli (oldest ever F1 winner) - 9/6/1898-20/6/52 (54 - internal injuries after accident at Monaco Grand Prix)

Jose Froilan Gonzalez - 5/10/22-15/6/2013 (90 - respiratory failure)

Alberto Ascari (1952-53 WC) - 13/7/18-26/5/55 (36 - fatal testing accident)

Piero Taruffi - 12/10/1906-12/1/88 (81 - unknown causes)

Troy Ruttman (Indy 500 Winner) - 11/3/30-19/5/97 (67 - lung cancer)

Bill Vukovich (Indy 500 Winner) - 13/12/18-30/5/55 (36 - killed at Indy 500)

Mike Hawthorn (1958 WC) - 10/4/29-22/1/59 (29 - civilian car accident)

Bob Sweikert (Indy 500 Winner) - 20/5/26-17/6/56 (30 - killed during race)

Luigi Musso - 28/7/24-6/7/58 (33 - killed at French Grand Prix)

Pat Flaherty (Indy 500 Winner) - 6/1/26-9/4/2002 (76 - heart attack)

Stirling Moss - 17/9/29-12/4/2020 (91 - long illness)

Peter Collins - 6/11/31-3/8/58 (27 - killed at German Grand Prix)

Sam Hanks (Indy 500 Winner)  - 13/7/14-27/6/94 (79 - various illnesses)

Maurice Trintignant - 30/10/17-13/2/2005 (87 - uknown causes)

Jimmy Bryan (Indy 500 Winner) - 28/1/26-19/6/60 (34 - killed during race)

Tony Brooks - 25/2/32 (aged 89 - Oldest Living Race Winner)

Jack Brabham (1959-60, 1966 WC) - 2/4/26-19/5/2014 (88 - liver disease)

Rodger Ward (Indy 500 Winner) - 10/1/21-5/7/2004 (83 - unknown causes)

Jo Bonnier - 31/1/30-11/6/72 (42 - killed at Le Mans 24 hrs)

Bruce McLaren - 30/8/37-2/6/70 (32 - fatal testing accident)

Jim Rathmann - 16/7/28-23/11/2011 (83 - seizure)

Phil Hill (1961 WC) - 20/4/27-28/8/2008 (81 - short illness)

Wolfgang von Trips - 4/5/28-10/9/61 (33 - killed at Italian Grand Prix)

Giancarlo Baghetti - 25/12/34-27/11/95 (60 - cancer)

Innes Ireland - 12/6/30-22/10/93 (63 - cancer)

Graham Hill (1962, 1968 WC) - 15/2/29-29/11/75 (46 - plane crash)

Jim Clark (1963, 1965 WC) - 4/3/36-7/4/68 (32 - killed during race)

Dan Gurney - 13/4/31-14/1/2018 (86 - pneumonia)

John Surtees (1964 WC) - 11/2/34-10/3/2017 (83 - respiratory failure)

Lorenzo Bandini - 21/12/35-10/5/67 (31 - severe injuries after crash at Monaco Grand Prix)

Richie Ginther - 5/8/30-20/9/89 (59 - heart attack)

Ludovico Scarfiotti - 18/10/33-8/6/68 (34 - killed during race)

Pedro Rodriguez - 18/1/40-11/6/71 (31 - killed during race)

Denny Hulme (1967 WC) - 18/6/36-4/10/92 (56 - heart attack during race)

Jackie Stewart (1969, 1971, 1973 WC) - 11/6/39 (aged 82)

Jacky Ickx - 1/1/45 (aged 76)

Jo Siffert - 7/7/36-24/10/71 (35 - killed during race)

Jochen Rindt (1970 WC) - 18/4/42-5/9/70 (28 - killed at Italian Grand Prix - only posthumous WC)

Clay Regazzoni - 5/9/39-15/12/2006 (67 - civilian car accident)

Emerson Fittipaldi (1972, 1974 WC) - 12/12/46 (aged 74)

Mario Andretti (1978 WC) - 28/2/40 (aged 81)

Peter Gethin - 21/2/40-5/12/2011 (71 - long illness)

Francois Cevert - 25/2/44-6/10/73 (29 - killed at US Grand Prix)

Jean-Pierre Beltoise - 26/4/37-5/1/2015 (77 - stroke)

Ronnie Peterson - 14/2/44-11/9/78 (34 - fatal injuries at Italian Grand Prix)

Peter Revson - 27/2/39-22/3/74 (35 - fatal testing accident)

Carlos Reutemann - 12/4/42-7/7/2021 (79 - intestinal haemorrhage)

Niki Lauda (1975, 1977, 1984 WC) - 22/2/49-20/5/19 (70 - kidney problems)

Jody Scheckter (1979 WC) - 29/1/50 (aged 71)

Carlos Pace - 6/10/44-18/3/77 (32 - plane crash)

Jochen Mass - 30/9/46 (aged 75)

James Hunt (1976 WC) - 29/8/47-15/6/93 (45 - heart attack)

Vittorio Brambilla - 11/11/37-26/5/2001 (63 - heart attack)

John Watson - 4/5/46 (aged 75)

Gunnar Nilsson - 20/11/48-20/10/78 (29 - testicular cancer)

Jacques Laffite - 21/11/43 (aged 77)

Gilles Villeneuve - 18/1/50-8/5/82 (32 - killed at Belgian Grand Prix)

Patrick Depailler - 9/8/44-1/8/80 (35 - fatal testing accident)

Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 1/10/42 (aged 79)

Alan Jones (1980 WC) - 2/11/46 (aged 75)

Rene Arnoux - 4/7/48 (aged 73)

Nelson Piquet (1981, 1983, 1987 WC) - 17/8/52 (aged 69)

Didier Pironi - 26/3/52-23/8/87 (35 - accident during powerboat race)

 

Just 13 of 67 race winners prior to 1980 are still alive. When Tony Brooks dies, Jackie Stewart will also become the oldest living race winner, in addition to the oldest living World Champion. For those who don't know, the Indy 500 counted towards the F1 World Championship until 1960, hence their inclusion here. Only 27 of the 54 who've died did so of natural causes, and 23 of the 67 didn't make it to 40 - and that's just the winners. The Killing Years, indeed.

Phil Hill - complications of Parkinson's.

Stirling Moss - chest infection

Peter Gethin - cancer

 

Add in the non championship winners like Spence, Villoresi etc, it's not much better.The only living people I can find to have won any kind of non-championship Formula 1 race before 1980 are:

 

Bruce Johnstone (Mozambique Grand Prix, 1961) - born 1937

Ian Scheckter (Rhodesian Grand Prix, 1974) - born 1947

Keke Rosberg (Race of Champions, 1978) - born 1948

Keith Holland (Madrid Grand Prix, 1969) - born 1935

and Kenneth McAlpine (West Sussex CC Race, 1953), born 1920

 

 

 

 

[The Old Crem 3,633]

23 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Christ. Not a necrophile, are you? 

I’ve only be there for it’s intended purpose. 

[RoverAndOut 4,755]

21 hours ago, Octopus of Odstock said:

Phil Hill - complications of Parkinson's.

Stirling Moss - chest infection

Peter Gethin - cancer

 

Add in the non championship winners like Spence, Villoresi etc, it's not much better.The only living people I can find to have won any kind of non-championship Formula 1 race before 1980 are:

 

Bruce Johnstone (Mozambique Grand Prix, 1961) - born 1937

Ian Scheckter (Rhodesian Grand Prix, 1974) - born 1947

Keke Rosberg (Race of Champions, 1978) - born 1948

Keith Holland (Madrid Grand Prix, 1969) - born 1935

and Kenneth McAlpine (West Sussex CC Race, 1953), born 1920

 

Updated. As always, I bow to your superior knowledge in this area. I think Kenneth McAlpine (101) may be the oldest surviving World Championship driver too (Indy 500 excepted - I haven't checked). He took part in the 1952 British and Italian Grands Prix. Hans Hermann (93) entered privately in 1953 at the German Grand Prix, but McAlpine entered 4 races that year, including in Germany. The only other driver to pre-date Tony Brooks (who debuted in 1956) is Hermano da Silva Ramos (95), who debuted in the Netherlands in 1955.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

32 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said:

 

Updated. As always, I bow to your superior knowledge in this area. I think Kenneth McAlpine (101) may be the oldest surviving World Championship driver too (Indy 500 excepted - I haven't checked). He took part in the 1952 British and Italian Grands Prix. Hans Hermann (93) entered privately in 1953 at the German Grand Prix, but McAlpine entered 4 races that year, including in Germany. The only other driver to pre-date Tony Brooks (who debuted in 1956) is Hermano da Silva Ramos (95), who debuted in the Netherlands in 1955.

 

Correct. Kenny McA is by far the oldest living. Paul Goldsmith is the oldest living Indy 500 driver.

Andre Milhoux also remains from 1956.

 

Goldsmith and Foyt remain from Indy 1958.

 

The only other living starters from the 1950's are David Piper and Peter Ashdown (albeit in F2 cars), from British Grand Prix 1959.

 

By the way, one surviving driver from that era survives no.more: Mike Harris who raced in the 1962 South African Grand Prix died yesterday aged 82.

[YoungWillz 21,213]

On 03/05/2021 at 17:39, TheSpinosaurus said:

ARCA driver Derrick Lancaster is no longer on ventilator and is alert now.

 

Retired NASCAR driver Delma Cowart has had Parkinson's and dementia for a while according to his daughter https://twitter.com/DelmaSdaughter/status/1377747892291706882. Was visited by Kyle Petty a few days ago.

 

 

Delma Cowart dead: 

 

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

On 31/07/2019 at 06:34, Octopus of Odstock said:

Drivers who are poorly or have an illness of some sort:

Bondurant, Campbell - Jones (dementia or similar age related issues) 

Ashmore, von Rooyen (cancer) 

Tambay, Laffite, W Fittipaldi (Parkinson's) 

Cabral and Edwards have age-related issues. 

I'm sure there is a few more but I can't remember currently. 

Obit chances of the non-Parkinson's trio? Probably only Bondurant, maybe. 

 

Bob Bondurant has died, aged 88.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.autoweek.com/news/people/amp38243757/bob-bondurant-champion-driver-and-even-better-driving-instructor-has-died/

Edited November 14, 2021 by Octopus of Odstock

[gcreptile 11,078]

Bernie Ecclestone 91th birthday pic of two weeks ago:

https://nypost.com/2021/10/30/bernie-ecclestone-celebrates-91st-birthday-with-15-month-old-son/

 

Now in typical DeathList age, but maybe still 1-2 years too soon?

[Nick 47]

According to Helio Castroneves on Instagram, Al Unser Sr. has passed away.

 

 

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

Oh my goodness. Bobby and Al in the same year? Al had been struggling a little bit mind

[dirtracer18 34]

NASCAR modified series legend Carl Pasteryak has passed away.

[Thatcher 2,479]

Hazel Chapman, widow of Colin Chapman and co-founder of Lotus Cars, has died aged 94.

[dirtracer18 34]

ex-NASCAR racer Bob Keselowski has been suffering from cancer and will die soon.

 

Update 12/22/21: dead

[drol 12,146]

On 21/12/2020 at 14:11, drol said:

Alex Zanardi now fully conscious, able to see and listen and expected to be able to speak soon.

Discharged.

[arghton 6,876]

Bob Keselowski dead:

https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2021/12/22/bob-keselowski-arca-champion-and-truck-series-pioneer-dies-at-70/

[maryportfuncity 10,684]

On 20/12/2021 at 11:44, drol said:

Zanardi Discharged.

 

 

And, likely told; "Off you toddle"

[Whitehouse 874]

On the eve of the start of the 2022 edition of the Dakar rallye, one of its legends died. Karel Loprais, the Chech driver working for Tatra trucks was a six time  winner of the truck devision. He was 72 years old. 

[YoungWillz 21,213]

Tony Jefferies, TT winner 350cc Junior class in 1971, reportedly dead after a long illness: https://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/tony-jefferies-has-died

[One shot Paddy 1,209]

4 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

Tony Jefferies, TT winner 350cc Junior class in 1971, reportedly dead after a long illness: https://www.bikesportnews.com/news/news-detail/tony-jefferies-has-died

His son David was also a TT winner (9times) but was killed there in 2003.

[maryportfuncity 10,684]

 

 

Speaking of TT's are we were above the Ulster Grand Prix is on this year and some other events in that series too - all in financial trouble but fighting back. Only mention this because the Deathlist Cup will be in it's later stages by then and deft choices in dangerous races might be a feature. This is current (2019) champion Lee Johnston in action, he's got ankylosing spondylitis - not something that's likely to help when your survival depends on delicate touches in split seconds. Brave as fuck, frankly, but it'd be neglectful to ignore it hereabouts.

 

[Octopus of Odstock 2,217]

I think this shows up publicly in Facebook but https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10160704461072281&id=857672280&m_entstream_source=group

 

Rupert Keegan. Looks awful and as mentioned on the FB post has been unwell. Definitely one to watch. Would get a QO even if it's the Sports Personality round up.

 

Only 66 but looks far older.