maryportfuncity 10,444 Posted January 1, 2014 Wilko Johnson - Joker Sam Simon Albert Reynolds Lily Ebert Sally Farmiloe Dr Kate Granger Felix Glenny Paul Lamb Billy Graham Valerie Harper Louisa Goodman - Len's mum Zsa Zsa Gabor Ethel Lamb Kristen Hallenga Daniel Van Bargen Stuart Hall - (presenter turned jailbird) Diana Haughton Helen Fawkes General Jaruselski Robert Demeger The usual theme team of 20 unpopular types - murderers, dictators etc. - also entered and a 20 Eggs, One Basket themed line up made up entirely of persons associated with the England football team (long shot, but a few air miles to be negotiated en masse this year). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,210 Posted January 1, 2014 Windsor the Troll Wilko Johnson (Joker) Muhammed Ali Helen Fawkes David Norris Flora Fraser Stephen Lewis Jim Bowen John Bardon Albert Reynolds Rev Billy Graham Daisy Berkowitz Wojciech Jaeuzelski Clive James Robert Mugabe George H. W. Bush Leslie Phillips Zsa Zsa Gabor Stephen Hawking Nancy Reagan Jeremy Thorpe Should be 'half decent'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Grendel 139 Posted January 1, 2014 Team Name: Grendel's Graveyard Joker: Paul Gascoigne Muhammed Ali Ian Watkins Guy Innes-Ker Prince Philip Ian Brady Zsa Zsa Gabor Eli Wallach Lindsay Lohan Brian Taylor (political editor at BBC Scotland) Tony Roper Peter Tobin Dick Cheney Ian Paisley Clive James Sandy Jardine George H.W. Bush Terry Pratchett Katherine Crowe Billy Graham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,440 Posted January 1, 2014 I've kept faith with all my standing members from last year, with the exception of Mike Stoller, so with three successes last year (my best so far) my four new faces are Buck Henry (joker) - admittedly a long shot, Valery Giscard d'Estaing, Nobby Stiles and Joseph Wapner. Theme team entries are just for fun - I count any success there as pure good fortune (on my part, at least). Happy DDP'ing all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,810 Posted January 1, 2014 Since I didn't mention it already, my theme team is still Muppet Show Guest Stars and is the same as last time, only with Valerie Harper and Linda Ronstadt filling in for the two deceased and Harper getting promoted to joker. Probably will enter it yearly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Going Underground 74 Posted January 1, 2014 Good luck folks Sam Simon (JOKER) Valerie Harper Paul Madeley Pat Rice Katherine Crowe Wilko Johnson Scott Putesky Joost Van Der Westhuizen Billy Graham Kim Kyong-hui Muhammad Ali Kim Fowley Maulana Fazlullah John Mcvie John Richard Reid Helen Fawkes Akkineni Nageswara Rao Mario Oriani-Ambrosini David Norris ( Nicodemo Scarfo snr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garn2 34 Posted January 1, 2014 Assuming he was picked again, does James Avery enter DDP no man's land for dying on December 31st without it being reported till the next day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 1, 2014 Unfortunately yes. For 2014 I'm going to update the List of the Lost so the deadline for Brit obits is 1st January 2015, so that there's at least 24 hours grace... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 109 Posted January 1, 2014 Deaths Vision Of Grandeur Muhammad Ali Fidel Castro Wilko Johnson *Joker* Billy Graham Zsa Zsa Gabor Wojciech Jaruzelski Verne Gange Valerie Harper Jack Ramsay Abe Vigoda Bill Delmonte Mike Porcaro David Rockefellar Clark Terry Sam Simon Clive James Lynne Stewart Joost van der Westhuizen Ariel Sharon Chandra Bahadur Dangi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 2, 2014 Unfortunately yes. For 2014 I'm going to update the List of the Lost so the deadline for Brit obits is 1st January 2015, so that there's at least 24 hours grace... Did anyone pick him for 2014 and if so are they allowed to replace him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 2, 2014 Yes, someone did and they can... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dean1991 116 Posted January 2, 2014 Kept 8 contenders from my last DDP. A mix of young & old. Check out my sig for names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,055 Posted January 2, 2014 I would like to question the result of the 2013 DDP. It is indeed something of an achievement for the winner "David Quantick" to get 15 hits in a year. More than this website got with only 2/5ths of the number of picks. However I noticed his pick of Andrew Millwall, clicked on the death notice and found a link to Sky Sports that has nothing about his death. Further information included about this high profile celebrity includes: Date and place of birth unknown Died 6 May 2013 (location of death unknown) Looking at the rules, I found that the link to "rules and scoring" does not seem to be working. However from memory I'm pretty sure it said something like it has to be on the BBC or national newspaper or similar. Doing a quick search this poor chap has no wikipedia page and nothing in any national newspaper. I found two mentions of his demise, on www.livefight.com and www.boxingnews24.com. Is this sufficient? Do the rules now include specialist websites (some might argue Sky Sports also falls into this category)? ps I am in no way connected with OoO or any of the other teams in the upper reaches of the competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 2, 2014 Sky Sports is a part of Sky News in the much the way BBC Sport is part of BBC News and the BBC in general. Therefore it counts as a British national news source. He got a passing mention, as is required in the "List of the Lost". Very tenuous, as are the "news in brief" world news thingummyjigs that soon disappear into the ether whenever published by the Guardian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,055 Posted January 2, 2014 OK fair enough. Now I have to find something else to do to put off actually getting back to work after the New Year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 2, 2014 I admit, it was a third umpire decision, but it made it. That's the nature of game these days. That's why the likes of Spade win it. Research, research, research...and a bit of good fortune here and there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 15,791 Posted January 2, 2014 Looking at the rules, I found that the link to "rules and scoring" does not seem to be working. I've noticed before that the "rules and scoring" seems to be tied to the entry page and usually takes you to Sorry, you're too late.... Derby Dead Pool 20?? is no longer accepting entries! Which is not much use if you just want to refresh your memory as to the validity of the likes of death row picks, famous-for-being-ill folks and so on. Am I missing something and is it available on another link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 2, 2014 Go to the List of the Lost page, although that will be updated when the lists for 2014 are published... Here are the rules: HOW TO ENTER: The DDP will start accepting entries from Saturday 7th December 2013. The entry period will officially close at 23:59 GMT on 31st December 2013. There follows a period where entries sent in the hours after that time will be entered at the host's discretion. The absolute deadline for that is 11:00 GMT on 1st January 2014. After that then the entry window is definitely closed! Simply send a list of 20 names and a maximum of 3 substitutes to ddp2014@derbydeadpool.co.uk, along with your team name and an email address to be contacted by. Important note: The joker will be the first name on your list and will be accepted by the host as such, so make sure your joker is top of the list! Should one or more of your choices croak it before 31st December 2013, then a substitute will replace him/her. Should the premature death be a joker, then the host will email you asking for a replacement joker from the existing list. Once you have sent your list, apart from the above matter arising, the host will not accept any wholesale changes. One you've entered, that's pretty much it! When the host has recieved your email, a message will be sent confirming this. Dont expect a full confirmation of the team you have entered until very late in the year/ early new year, depending on when you enter. You will be contacted by the host for any queries regarding the names of the picks and what they do, if they are among the more obscure picks. If you are entering again, but with a different team name, let the host know what your previous team name was. Please indicate if you are entering a theme team. THE BASICS: Pick 20 different celebrities who are alive as at 1st January 2014, but who, in your opinion, will no longer be with us by 31st December 2014. Nominate one of them as your "joker". For each celeb demise that you guess correctly, you'll score points, and if your joker sadly passes away, your grief will be alleviated by the fact that you'll score double points. We'll keep you updated via email every time someone scores points, and there will be a (usually) up-to-date scoreboard on the website. The team with the most points at the end of the year will, unsurprisingly, be deemed to be the winner. In the event of a dead heat on points, the winner will be selected according to the following criteria, applied in this order: The most hits (i.e. correctly-chosen deceased celebs). The youngest average age of hits. The most amusing team name. THE RULES: All entrants must supply a team name and a valid email address. We will never reveal your email address to anyone else. All of your chosen celebs must be: Human. At least 18 years old as at 1st January 2014. Prisoners on "Death Row" i.e. awaiting state execution can only score points if they die of other causes. Picks that are on trial or are put on trial and are found guilty and executed are not disqualified but will not claim the unnatural points bonus. Actual real-life people, not characters out of soap operas and the like. Named individuals, not just "Pope Wotsisface" or "the oldest person in the world". Players must not murder their chosen celebs. That's cheating, and cheating is wrong. The date of death is taken as that in the country/region where the person died, i.e. local time is used. If the time of death is reported as exactly midnight local time, the date of the day just beginning is used. This may be relevant in deciding bonuses (see below). DEFINITIONS: "Celebrity" means someone who, upon their death, gets a written obituary in a British national newspaper or on the BBC News website. This does mean that you can't always be sure when picking your team whether each person will be famous enough or not, but that's all part of the game. "Obituary" simply means an article which mentions the fact that the person has died. It doesn't have to be the conventional biographical write-up. "Alive" means drawing breath, not decomposing, that kind of thing. "No longer with us" is the opposite of the above! "Death" means the transition from the former to the latter. The death of a career (e.g. Michael Barrymore) doesn't count. SCORING: The value of the basic death depends on the person's age: 18-29 years: 12 points 30-49 years: 10 points 50-59 years: 9 points 60-69 years: 8 points 70-79 years: 7 points 80-89 years: 6 points 90-99 years: 5 points 100-109 years: 4 points 110+ years: 3 points On top of this, bonus points are awarded as follows: Unique pick: +3 if you were the only competitor to pick that person. Unlucky 13: +2 for a celeb who dies on the 13th of any month. Unnatural causes: +3 for murder, suicide or accident (but not State executions). Party pooper: +5 for a celeb who dies on their birthday or Xmas Day. Joker: Take the total of all the above and double it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,365 Posted January 2, 2014 NGL, Andrew Millwall is easily one of the least famous people to ever qualify for DDP points. When I put my team together I thought (incorrectly) that Steve Bunce still had a column in the Independent so he'd get a mention in a "the week in British boxing news" roundup. Shout out Murdoch for coming through for me though. (For the uninitiated/uninterested, Millwall ran a boxing prediction competition online that included among its players many British boxers, trainers and promoters, including at one point Tyson Fury). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,103 Posted January 2, 2014 I admit, it was a third umpire decision, but it made it. That's the nature of game these days. That's why the likes of Spade win it. Research, research, research...and a bit of good fortune here and there... I've no complaints, not least as I felt Jack Pardee's obit was weaker than, say, Jo Bryant's. A specialist Yahoo sports blog isn't really the same as a full-page broadsheet obit, I must admit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 2, 2014 A comparative Jo Bryant (Felix Glenny perhaps) pick will certainly qualify this year and UK versions of internet news sites (which would include blogs) are also included. Some may think that's not in the spirit of the game but then they'd probably want the latest stiffs published on parchment... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,444 Posted January 3, 2014 A comparative Jo Bryant (Felix Glenny perhaps) pick will certainly qualify this year and UK versions of internet news sites (which would include blogs) are also included. Some may think that's not in the spirit of the game but then they'd probably want the latest stiffs published on parchment... Glenny, I'm fairly confident, will get national newspaper coverage; mainly because Sharon Osbourne is a supporter and has donated £10,000 to his fund. He may also prove to be the biggest ranter fire magnet hereabouts since Paul Hunter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eesti 151 Posted January 3, 2014 Hoping for 7+ hits. Team Name: DDP Tofoa Joker (Pick 1): Wilko Johnson Pick 2: Clive James Pick 3: Billy Graham (rev) Pick 4: Wojciech Jaruzelski Pick 5: Zsa Zsa Gabor Pick 6: Valerie Harper Pick 7: Sam Simon Pick 8: Katherine Crowe Pick 9: Joost van der Westhuizen Pick 10: Robert Mugabe Pick 11: Pope Benedict XVI Pick 12: Muhammad Ali Pick 13: Fidel Castro Pick 14: George H. W. Bush Pick 15: Prince Phillip Pick 16: Stephen Hawking Pick 17: Lynne Stewart Pick 18: Joao Havelange Pick 19: Kirk Douglas Pick 20: Eli Wallach 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lard Bazaar 3,782 Posted January 3, 2014 A comparative Jo Bryant (Felix Glenny perhaps) pick will certainly qualify this year and UK versions of internet news sites (which would include blogs) are also included. Some may think that's not in the spirit of the game but then they'd probably want the latest stiffs published on parchment... Glenny, I'm fairly confident, will get national newspaper coverage; mainly because Sharon Osbourne is a supporter and has donated £10,000 to his fund. He may also prove to be the biggest ranter fire magnet hereabouts since Paul Hunter. I cannot lie, I sobbed like a baby when I read about Felix. I must be going soft in my old age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uschi 53 Posted January 3, 2014 Because I haven't received any confirmation, I guess I'm not in When will the official homepage of the DDP be updated with all 2014 teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites