gcreptile 10,963 Posted October 28, 2015 The road to recovery has a "bump": http://www.torontosun.com/2015/10/27/rob-ford-has-hit-bump-in-the-road-in-cancer-fight He also still has a hole in his abdomen because of an operation and had a serious infection there recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted October 28, 2015 I can't decide whether to add him or not for 2016. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted October 28, 2015 I can't decide whether to add him or not for 2016. First, let's wait and see what that little "bump" was. If it's a recurrence of the cancer, that's bad enough, but if it's not resected within the next few weeks/months, it's likely terminal. As SC said above, he has a "bad" type of liposarcoma (pleomorphic l.), with relatively high recurrence rates and aggressive behaviour, so definitely one to keep an eye on in 2016, regardless of the optimistic statements issued by those close to him. (Even if it's operated on again, he might end up like Hugo Chavez, with the cancer coming back after each surgery. His cancer type was never revealed, but suspected to be a soft-tissue sarcoma, like Rob's.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,963 Posted October 28, 2015 I can't decide whether to add him or not for 2016.First, let's wait and see what that little "bump" was. If it's a recurrence of the cancer, that's bad enough, but if it's not resected within the next few weeks/months, it's likely terminal. As SC said above, he has a "bad" type of liposarcoma (pleomorphic l.), with relatively high recurrence rates and aggressive behaviour, so definitely one to keep an eye on in 2016, regardless of the optimistic statements issued by those close to him. (Even if it's operated on again, he might end up like Hugo Chavez, with the cancer coming back after each surgery. His cancer type was never revealed, but suspected to be a soft-tissue sarcoma, like Rob's.) The 5-year survival rate of this type of cancer is 54%, as I have read on a website today. Now, one has to adjust that average value for Rob Ford's specifics. He's young, but also has a drug history and is overweight. Plus, there is a minor risk of an infection with lethal complications. My guess that Ford has a 5-year survival probability of 40%. But we're interested in the next 14 months, and that probability of survival is much higher. I can only guess... about 60-66%? And then you have to decide if Rob Ford's good 10 points are worth betting on a 33-40% chance, and this chance grows or declines with whatever problem Ford has right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted October 28, 2015 I can't decide whether to add him or not for 2016. First, let's wait and see what that little "bump" was. If it's a recurrence of the cancer, that's bad enough, but if it's not resected within the next few weeks/months, it's likely terminal.As SC said above, he has a "bad" type of liposarcoma (pleomorphic l.), with relatively high recurrence rates and aggressive behaviour, so definitely one to keep an eye on in 2016, regardless of the optimistic statements issued by those close to him. (Even if it's operated on again, he might end up like Hugo Chavez, with the cancer coming back after each surgery. His cancer type was never revealed, but suspected to be a soft-tissue sarcoma, like Rob's.) The 5-year survival rate of this type of cancer is 54%, as I have read on a website today. Now, one has to adjust that average value for Rob Ford's specifics. He's young, but also has a drug history and is overweight. Plus, there is a minor risk of an infection with lethal complications. My guess that Ford has a 5-year survival probability of 40%. But we're interested in the next 14 months, and that probability of survival is much higher. I can only guess... about 60-66%? And then you have to decide if Rob Ford's good 10 points are worth betting on a 33-40% chance, and this chance grows or declines with whatever problem Ford has right now.Yeah, I agree with most of what you say. But one should definitely be on the look for more comments from him, his bro or the medical team, because the median (survival time) rarely gives you the full picture. For example, if it's a local recurrence in the buttocks, it might be resected again without having to worry about serious complications. If it's the abdomen, it might be trickier, depending on the site of recurrence (remember, he needed chemo to shrink it first, cause it was in a bad place). And if we are talking about distant metastasis (-es), the prognosis is considerably worse. PLS has a high (>50%) risk of metastasis, primarily to the lungs. Metastasis is rapid, often leading to death. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2015 Doug Ford, brother of Former Toronto Mayor Rob Ford, says his brother is 'in excruciating pain' after new tumor found - @SimonOstler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,311 Posted October 28, 2015 He has been diagnosed with a tumour on his bladder:http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/former-toronto-mayor-rob-ford-reveals-he-has-new-tumor-n453251 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,436 Posted October 28, 2015 It has been a hell of a rise in no time at all. 2010 - elected 2013 - scandals which bring him to a world audience 2014 - cancer, resigns 2015 - cancer spreads 2016 - dies He's basically fit a political career of 25-30 years into about three or four years, there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted October 29, 2015 Well, I'm adding him. Heck, I'll put him in the top 3 with Howard Marks, Jimmy Carter, Martin Crowe (presuming one of them will die). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,639 Posted October 29, 2015 He has been diagnosed with a tumour on his bladder:http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/former-toronto-mayor-rob-ford-reveals-he-has-new-tumor-n453251 And he's pissed off, obviously 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,271 Posted October 29, 2015 This must be the first ever spread he didn't like. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted October 30, 2015 I can't decide whether to add him or not for 2016.First, let's wait and see what that little "bump" was. If it's a recurrence of the cancer, that's bad enough, but if it's not resected within the next few weeks/months, it's likely terminal. As SC said above, he has a "bad" type of liposarcoma (pleomorphic l.), with relatively high recurrence rates and aggressive behaviour, so definitely one to keep an eye on in 2016, regardless of the optimistic statements issued by those close to him. (Even if it's operated on again, he might end up like Hugo Chavez, with the cancer coming back after each surgery. His cancer type was never revealed, but suspected to be a soft-tissue sarcoma, like Rob's.) It is also highly unusual for this sort of cancer to spread to the tissue around the urinary bladder and probably indicative of the presence of highly aggressive malignant neoplasms in his system IMHO. I'm 90% sure he's going in my DDP squad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted October 31, 2015 I can't decide whether to add him or not for 2016.First, let's wait and see what that little "bump" was. If it's a recurrence of the cancer, that's bad enough, but if it's not resected within the next few weeks/months, it's likely terminal. As SC said above, he has a "bad" type of liposarcoma (pleomorphic l.), with relatively high recurrence rates and aggressive behaviour, so definitely one to keep an eye on in 2016, regardless of the optimistic statements issued by those close to him. (Even if it's operated on again, he might end up like Hugo Chavez, with the cancer coming back after each surgery. His cancer type was never revealed, but suspected to be a soft-tissue sarcoma, like Rob's.) It is also highly unusual for this sort of cancer to spread to the tissue around the urinary bladder and probably indicative of the presence of highly aggressive malignant neoplasms in his system IMHO. I'm 90% sure he's going in my DDP squad. /me nods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adrian0719 220 Posted November 5, 2015 Now two tumours instead of one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,436 Posted November 5, 2015 Now two tumours instead of one! Now featuring on the 2016 DDP Drop Forty! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GossipGabe 333 Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Now two tumours instead of one! That's quite bad news... Well, in retrospect, there was a bit too much optimism in the papers, when he was operated on with the earlier tumours (abdomen, buttocks). The tumour in his abdomen was "in a bad place" initially, that's why he needed some chemo to shrink it, but I guess it only became "marginally resectable", and it couldn't have been excised with (sufficiently) wide margins. I reckon he will need to go under the knife again, if he and the medical team are still hoping for a cure, cause chemotherapy alone is not a long term solution for liposarcoma. Btw. he can only feature in the 2016 DDP teams if he makes the starting line... And that's not guaranteed, if something goes wrong with the next surgery, he might be toast before January. Edited November 5, 2015 by GossipGabe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,311 Posted November 5, 2015 Christ!I should think he will be on everyone`s list if he hangs in there long enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,311 Posted November 5, 2015 According to the statement, they "still do not have definitive test results indicating if there is any organ involvement, or the size of the tumours.":Looks like there could be more bad news on the way. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-chemo-1.3305855 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,024 Posted January 4, 2016 On his way back after treatments, says the big man: http://www.torontosun.com/2016/01/03/rob-ford-i-am-on-my-way-back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,943 Posted January 6, 2016 Yeh, back. Back to work for one day. Next 5 day chemo stint starts today. I think he's a long way go go yet to see the year out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted January 9, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/rob-ford-run-mayor-toronto-2018-crack-fight Planning to run for mayor again in 2018. If he makes it that long, he'll die of shame that only 0.2% of people voted for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted January 9, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/rob-ford-run-mayor-toronto-2018-crack-fight Planning to run for mayor again in 2018. If he makes it that long, he'll die of shame that only 0.2% of people voted for him. I voted for him -- for 2016. SC 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted January 9, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/rob-ford-run-mayor-toronto-2018-crack-fight Planning to run for mayor again in 2018.Ted Kennedy had similar plans in 2009 and he died that year I am pretty sure Rob Ford jinxed himself. If he makes it that long, he'll die of shame that only 0.2% of people voted for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,955 Posted March 3, 2016 Back in hospital for more treatment. His brother does note "recent setbacks", though not sure what that precisely entails. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandomCanadian 105 Posted March 3, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/rob-ford-run-mayor-toronto-2018-crack-fight Planning to run for mayor again in 2018. If he makes it that long, he'll die of shame that only 0.2% of people voted for him. He is still popular outside the downtown core (watched a news report about it). Even posthumously he'd do better than 0.2%...just sayin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
