General Non School Massacre Thread

[YoungWillz 21,014]

No evidence Betts was motivated politically in respect of the shooting. By all accounts, a bad lot who probably wouldn't have had a gun with proper checks. Alternatively, quite clearly Paddy from Texas was politically motivated, quoting Trump's white supremacist tropes.

 

We bang on about radicalisation in the mosques in this country. What happens when radicalisation comes from politicians? El Paso does. Pittsburgh does. Etc etc.

 

Dunno where the mass shooter race profile comes in. Doesn't seem to include those who killed themselves or were shot by law enforcement, so that perhaps is a nice selective picture to put up. Needs broken down into those disaffected, neighbourhood disputes, mentally ill, politically motivated. Not all Trump/Republican supporters are white. Not all people against immigration are white.

 

What's happening over there is their problem. Doing nothing, especially regarding automatic repeating death guns, seems to be no longer an option for the US.

[Bentrovato 1,084]

I dated a bird called Lizzie Warren when I was about 15. Only allowed me to play with her tits. Which was odd for a Kettering girl as they were usually up for anything. Maybe just me. 

 

As for guns in America. The more the merrier. I do not know anyone there and my morals, ethics and scruples are at an all time low. Let them get on with it. Less semi automatic, more fully automatic. Every empire has to fall at some point. 

[Grim Up North 3,725]

1 hour ago, Bentrovato said:

As for guns in America. The more the merrier. I do not know anyone there and my morals, ethics and scruples are at an all time low. Let them get on with it. Less semi automatic, more fully automatic. Every empire has to fall at some point. 

 

Population of USA growing by about 7,000 people every day - it's going to take more than a daily mass shooting to cause the end of the empire.

 

As for Lizzie Warren - if she wanked you off while you played with her tits then at 15 I'd have been pretty happy (and at 51 I'd be pretty happy).

[Banana 859]

3 hours ago, the_engineer said:

 

I can assure you I ain't no socialist or satanist or Elizabeth Warren supporter . Think we need to talk about far left murderous socialists. When will Elizabeth Warren apologise? Also the racists claiming his shooting was white supremacy simply because he is white is well... Racist. 

 

Wtf are you on about?

 

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Also Connor Betts was pro gun control.  So shall we give into him and Brenton Tarrant and support gun control? So it turns out you seemingly agthese terrorists and their goals of those two mass shooters. 

 

Are you trying to tell me I should give a shit about someone he may or may not have known 3-4 years ago to be correct?

The guy has been noted as being obsessed with mass shootings and violence.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

Does that make sense with being pro-gun control? Regardless, wanting gun control because it would start a race war and wanting gun control because it will save lives are not agreeable stances. 

 

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Also a little more info on the el Paso shooter.  He was a registered Democrat. I think now more than ever with rising left wing violence and terror, Republicans and conservatives need guns to protect themselves. 

 

Blatant lie. Where are you seeing that he was a Democrat? He literally stated in his racist manifesto the exact opposite. 

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/08/el-paso-shooters-manifesto-uses-trump-and

And you must be on another planet if you think there’s a rise in left wing violence and terror when literally white supremacist attacks are at an all time high. 

 

3 hours ago, the_engineer said:

Remember folks the media wants you to believe 99% of mass shooters are white males.  But as usual it's fake news

 

Strawman. Absolutely nobody claimed that all mass shooters are white.

[Banana 859]

3 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

No evidence Betts was motivated politically in respect of the shooting. By all accounts, a bad lot who probably wouldn't have had a gun with proper checks. Alternatively, quite clearly Paddy from Texas was politically motivated, quoting Trump's white supremacist tropes.

 

This is another good point to bring up. How was he able to get a gun if he was mentally ill? Wonder if some sort of policy could prevent such a thing. 

[Bentrovato 1,084]

19 hours ago, Grim Up North said:

 

Population of USA growing by about 7,000 people every day - it's going to take more than a daily mass shooting to cause the end of the empire.

 

As for Lizzie Warren - if she wanked you off while you played with her tits then at 15 I'd have been pretty happy (and at 51 I'd be pretty happy).

30,000 a year dead. And growing.

 

No she did not. Just a feel. Personally. 32 years of wanting she did. 

 

[Cat O'Falk 3,290]

 

 

[CastAway 488]

Surprise, it's Texas again - 5 dead, 21 injured so far:

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/odessa-shooting-texas-injuries_n_5d6ae71fe4b09bbc9ef00f20

[Phantom 2,531]

52 minutes ago, CastAway said:

Surprise, it's Texas again - 5 dead, 21 injured so far:

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry/odessa-shooting-texas-injuries_n_5d6ae71fe4b09bbc9ef00f20

Oh look, it's another one of those foreig... well, dark skinn... well, Islami...ah, fuck it, it's another fucking white male whack job with a gun in Texas.

[CastAway 488]

16 hours ago, Phantom said:

Oh look, it's another one of those foreig... well, dark skinn... well, Islami...ah, fuck it, it's another fucking white male whack job with a gun in Texas.

 

As an aside, apparently Texas is once again reducing restrictions on ownership like literally today or tomorrow, so...I'm going to take a wild guess about which state the next mass shooting will be in.

[torbrexbones 717]

Does the killing of the 39 Chinese nationals count as a massacre?

[roaming_comrade 471]

5 hours ago, torbrexbones said:

Does the killing of the 39 Chinese nationals count as a massacre?

It may just even be an accident. I think someone forgot them in there and they suffocated.

[Paul Bearer 6,099]

1 hour ago, roaming_comrade said:

It may just even be an accident. I think someone forgot them in there and they suffocated.

Suffocated in temperatures of minus 20? 

[roaming_comrade 471]

38 minutes ago, Paul Bearer said:

Suffocated in temperatures of minus 20? 

Suffocated in a closed off Truck container. I'm from Germany, we had this quite a few times with refugees here.

[the_engineer 1,415]

Why is that driver being held on murder charges?  Surely it's manslaughter unless he knew they'd die. 

[Toast 16,122]

1 hour ago, the_engineer said:

Why is that driver being held on murder charges?  Surely it's manslaughter unless he knew they'd die. 

 

They'll surely never make it stick, even if it emerges that he is complicit in the trafficking.  He'd only picked up the trailer less than an hour earlier, by which time they were almost certainly all dead.

[En Passant 3,740]

There is simply not enough information publicly available to draw any firm conclusion yet.

We have no idea if the driver is simply a pawn sent to collect a can from point A: and deliver it to point B: or if he was more involved that that. If it is true that the tractor was driven all the way from Ireland via Holyhead with zero cargo to move a can a few miles in Essex that's certainly bloody suspicious because it's hardly economically sensible. I'd be asking some questions if I were the driver. On the flip side, you do what you're told if you're at the bottom of any chain really.

Also just because the trailer had a refrigeration unit on it, doesn't mean it was switched on. In fact some trailers where the unit packs up are simply used for non-refrigerated goods if it's not viable to fix it. Why when you have a lot of money invested in its human contents, would you turn it on? Don't get it.

He'll be answering some questions in the time honoured fashion, scared of multiple murder charges and probably even more scared of whoever sent him in the first place.

 

Not enough information yet IMO.

[the_engineer 1,415]

On 24/10/2019 at 22:47, Toast said:

 

They'll surely never make it stick, even if it emerges that he is complicit in the trafficking.  He'd only picked up the trailer less than an hour earlier, by which time they were almost certainly all dead.

 

Around the times the text messages were sent (Girl sending messages she can't breathe) they worked out it was still travelling within Belgium. Why has this guy who picked up the trailer when they were dead being charged with manslaughter?  There were another two trucks which made it,  why Haven't the smuggled and smugglers been tracked down and arrested?  Also the UK border agency might want to start mapping nail salons and then raiding them.Seems they're a hot bed for  illegal immigrants .  I know they want a better life and I don't blame them but people work hard and pay thousands upon thousands and jump though outrageous amounts of hoops to come here legally and it's not fair on them. 

 

Also why are some paying smugglers £30k to get into the country or even £10k.  You can get into the UK on a tourist visa or other means legally for that type of money. 

[Toast 16,122]

Around the times the text messages were sent (Girl sending messages she can't breathe) they worked out it was still travelling within Belgium. Why has this guy who picked up the trailer when they were dead being charged with manslaughter? 

 

It'll be a joint enterprise kind of thing.  Looks like they're certain he knew what he was carrying, and stopped where he did to let them out.  There would have been minibuses to meet him, no doubt.  They'll be looking for those too.

 

There were another two trucks which made it,  why haven't the smuggled and smugglers been tracked down and arrested? 

 

I'm sure they're on to it.  The Gardai have arrested another Irish trucker on a separate matter and he's been refused bail. 

 

Also why are some paying smugglers £30k to get into the country or even £10k.  You can get into the UK on a tourist visa or other means legally for that type of money.

 

Don't know if it applies here, but it seems in many cases the illegals have to pay most of the money off after they arrive, which means they are trapped into handing most of their their earnings over to the smugglers indefinitely.

[Sir Creep 7,070]

wrong thread

[En Passant 3,740]

It took you three weeks to notice? 

Can't stand these half-assed, devil-may-care, I'll get around to it when i get around to it thread police.

[jcc 227]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/11/18/fresno-california-sunday-night-football-shooting/4226932002/

[jcc 227]

Washington Post
Three dead after shooting at Oklahoma Walmart, authorities say
8 hours ago. Another one today,getting hard to keep up.

[Bentrovato 1,084]

One way of reducing the waiting time in A&E. Soon to be adopted by the NHS the way things are going.  Czech shooting: Gunman kills six at hospital in Ostrava  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50725840

[Bentrovato 1,084]

A general round up of the year in the US. "Mass killings in US reach highest mark since at least 1970s, largely due to shootings: report"   https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mass-killings-in-us-reach-highest-mark-since-at-least-1970s-largely-due-to-shootings-report/ar-BBYqsqx?ocid=spartanntp