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Not exactly knocking over many sacred cows in these recent posts. How about: Lead Belly - baby's first blues musician Charles Bukowski - literally unreadable and popular solely because any unemployed 22-year-old can drink a bottle of Sailor Jerry's and shit out a rough approximation of his writing style Pele - congrats on scoring 800 goals past semi-pro players in your home league and being too shit-scared to go to Europe to prove yourself against professionals

Let's see if I can put this in a way that won't get me crucified. Meh, not a chance. There are a fair number of women like me - I have noticed they all tend to be around my age, as well - who, while in complete agreement that some men need to learn how to keep their peckers to themselves and stop being misogynistic manipulating predatory assholes, also believe that women need to do a couple of things: Stop allowing the label of "victim" to be applied to them and stop demanding special treatment in cases of sexual transgression; Fight like hell to change the world but, at the same time, understand that the current world is not what they would wish and act accordingly; Take common sense precautions to protect themselves in this not perfect world; And the one that gets the most rotten tomatoes thrown at me - remember that accusation does not immediately confer guilt. I know women who would walk through Detroit at night wearing a bikini just to make a point. No shit. No, what you are wearing does not give any man the right to lay a hand on you. Realistically, however, you just set yourself up. You are a dumbass. If you were carrying $10K in cash you would go miles out of your way to avoid South Central Los Angeles. Why is taking steps to avoid sexual assault any different? It may not make a difference - nuns in full habit have been raped from time immemorial - but wearing the bikini where it is appropriate to wear it and not where it isn't might just be common sense. If you play the victim you will be treated like a victim. End of discussion. The media not releasing your identity, you needing a safe anonymous space, merely shows your weakness to your attacker. It's OK for your accused - but not yet convicted - attacker to be named and to be smeared all over the news but you get to hide? What if you are wrong and his life is destroyed? It's been fairly well proven that recognition is unreliable in criminal cases. Oh, but it's all right because someone hurt you....bullshit. Double standards are double standards regardless of whether the crime is rape or grand larceny or arson or mass murder. If you are right, and you know you are right, and especially if you have proof that you are right, get out there and kick ass. If he hurt you make sure he knows he did not destroy you. Rape and sexual harassment are about power, and if you hide out and lick your wounds for too long you have given your attacker all the power. The only way stigma gets destroyed is to take it out of the dark and burn it on the town square. Hold your head high and make sure everyone knows you believe there is no shame in being assaulted, only in perpetuating the idea of victimhood on your entire sex. Don't even get me started on the US Title IX sexual assault on college campuses bullshit. Oh, and if you didn't protest and you kept your mouth shut or accepted a bribe when some sorry ass piece of shit predated on you, you can just continue to keep your mouth shut when the shit hits the fan and he's been destroyed in the media. You are part of the problem, not the solution, and you need to just go away and yes I'm talking to you Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth Paltrow (who both have a couple of powerful parents themselves). Particularly when you continue to make money for him in film after film, year after year. This is why I am an unsuccessful feminist and likely to remain one.

He certainly feels deathlisty, he also seems like someone who would "get" the deathlist too, but he's one of a handful of people I could never put in a dead pool because I like him too much.

<Biblio goes looking for a contract killer>

No.2!!!! I'll get Coca Cola sponsorship and pay out a prize worth £50

In that case: Meryl Streep - "greatest actress of her generation", allegedly: dull, over-enunicates her dialogue, but at least she's not Faye Dunaway, I guess. Iggy Pop - has a few good songs and takes his top off. HP Lovecraft - turgid unreadable prose and racist as fuck 90% of the time, 5% of the time he wrote a decent tale. Dutch National Teams Total Football - Did it win the World Cup? Nope. Meanwhile Germany's own brand Total Football won 4, and 3 Euros to boot. imo, of course.

I don't think anyone actually cares about Hillary Clinton

James Corden

I thought that's why he went out with the ultra-wooden Kristen Stewart.

Robert Pattinson and who? That's surely not the name of a human being.

They already have Umpires in the HOF,having Ambassadors of the sport isn't that much of a stretch.

I watched every Carry On film ever made earlier this year .Just thought I'd see what the fuss was all about! PS my favourite is Carry on Screaming! Probably because I'm such a huge fan of Hammer horror films!

I don't see the good in this. Scotland have been built up into a team that has held its own. Everyone would have had England and Slovakia through before a ball was kicked. Strachan has been to a WC, been an inspiration and is actually Scottish - playing for the jersey has been a severe problem for players who weren't born here. Who steps in? Name one former Scottish International who wants the job.

Something big is coming, I can feel it!

I'm with Carol. People's behaviour is often a contributory factor to their own misfortunes. I see nothing wrong with saying they should take some responsibility, without being howled down and accused of being a "victim blamer".

Deathrace is even no. 2 for me. And I usually suck at it. Hopefully, the Deathlist Cup gave me the necessary experience to do better with the quick deaths.

Yeh, you're fucking right I'd say A. And this is where I will gracefully bow out of this discussion (that I probably should have stayed out of in the first place with hindsight) as there is obviously no debating with someone who has zero understanding of the effects on the mind of someone who has been raped.

Does Tom Lehrer meet the criteria for next year's list?

Deathrace is one of the big 3 alongside the DDP and Hartlepool Deadlypool. Of course there'll be interest imo.

Just letting you know I'll start working on the thread for the Deathrace in a couple of weeks and likely post it and open up for entries on or by 1 Nov Given the tonnage of deadpools hereabouts can I assume there'll be enough interest - i.e. about 12-20 teams - to make it worthwhile? Usual deal - teams of 20, points for every calendar day to go in the year when a pick dies, jokers, 18+ for team picks and fairly tolerant attitude to what exactly is a q/o and a full set of rules confirming all this so's everyone who can be arsed reading them is duly warned of what's going on.

Harvey Weinstein.

There are people out there whose kindness, warmth and general manner make grumpy old bastards like me smile. Well that and my Granddaughter.

Hmm, not really...try a different broswer? Allow some cookies?

We named a kitten Cato because when we first got her she used to hide and then spring out at us from behind cupboards, and my dad was a big Peter Sellers fan. And we had another girl cat called Fido. And our first cat was called Moses because dad brought him home in a basket.