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Johnny Hallyday by far

I was thinking we were gonna get an 18th hit but not so sure now to be honest. This month has been pretty crap for deaths - especially considering December is normally a good month for hits and you normally get a few big names around Christmas time at least. Who have we had this month so far? Really only King Mike, Keith Chegwin, Max Clifford, Heinz Wolff and a handful of pornstars. That's well below average for a normal December in death.

Final suggestions for the committee: Keep: 1)Kirk Douglas 2)Vera Lynn 3)Billy Graham 4)Herman Wouk 5)Olivia de Havilland 6)George H W Bush 7)Pierre Cardin 8)Stan Lee 9)Denis Norden 10)Javier Perez De Cuellar 11)Leah Bracknell 12)Nobby Stiles 13)Betty White 14)Bob Dole 15)Leslie Phillips 16)Jill Gascoigne 17)Prince Philip 18)Valerie Harper 19)Bob Barker 20)Robert Mugabe 21)Doug Ellis 22)Jimmy Carter 23)Desmond Tutu 24)Pope Benedict 25)Queen Elizabeth II Bring back 1)Doris Day 2)Henry Kissenger 3)Nicholas Parsons 4)Murray Walker 5)Clive James 6)Stephen Hawking 7)Charles Aznavour 8)Dick van Dyke 9)Tony Bennett 10)James Randi 11)Sean Connery 12)Jacques Chirac 13)Peter Alliss 14)Prunella Scales New: 1)John McCain 2)Olivia Newton John 3)Tessa Jowell 4)Linda Nolan 5)John Hume 6)Douglas Hurd 7)Val Kilmer 8)Liam Miller 9)Dean Francis 10)Morgan Tsvangirai 11)Marieke Vervoot

Or maybe they could have a merry Christmas by not looking up murder victims?

D'ya think that clear mind allows him a second of self-indulgence at midnight on New Year's Eve as he clenches both fists and goes "yess!!!" as he thinks how many of us wasted valuable team picks on him in 2017?

My List: 1. Jacques Chirac 2. Alain Delon 3. Valéry Giscard d’Estaing 4. Bernard Tapie 5. Pierre Richard 6. Renee Simonot 7. Jean-Luc Godard 8. Pierre Cardin 9. Gerard Depardieu 10. Jean-Paul Belmondo 11. Brigitte Bardot 12. Leslie Caron 13. Anouk Aimee 14. Claude Lelouch 15. Jean-Louis Trintignant 16. Michel Piccoli 17. Michel Houellebecq (a risky pick) 18. Claudia Cardinale 19. Charles Gerard 20. Sophia Loren 21. Albert Uderzo 22. Jean-Marie Le Pen 23. Roland Dumas 24. Prince Henrik 25. Claire Maurier

Dennis Stamp

i prepare my list. 20 names, ok for you ?

For me Helmut Kohl. 16 years leader of Germany including reunification and co-founder of the united Europe incl. common EURO. I think this live performance is more significant compared to someone like Hefner who presented us "only" naked bunnys on the cover of the playboy.

Hugh Hefner??

Of course, Jacques was The following one on my own list, he could really be a good name for 2018

Big call.

Yeah, perhaps, but... why's that a bad thing? Does anyone care about Norwegian football outside of bits of Norway? I glanced over those stats but seems to show Fergus McCann right: live within your means, build up your own capital, dominate. Rangers just spent everyone else's money, it came back to haunt them. Died. The New Rangers probably perma-fucked for the time being. Anyhow, never mind all that. Apparently Thistle made a profit this year? Fantastic. We were a complete basket case financially only about 15-16 years ago.

You know..... Larry may not be a bad pick, he's terribly death listy. Not sure it's his year, but when has that stopped the DL from inclusion? SC

A spin-off thread, perhaps more for extra-curricular than here, that I've always wanted to create is where we definitely list movies that the entire (known) cast is 100% dead from. Outside of, like, Swimming to Cambodia, it's very hard to do because so many movies have a guy listed on IMDB who did nothing else with their career (see: the bailiff from 12 Angry Men). Similarly, there's one actress in Guys and Dolls who vanishes after about 1960 that holds that film back from getting a black tick. Any interest in such a thread?

Jose Carreras looks very frail & had to cancel a concert due to illness a while ago. Monserrat Caballe is infirm & wheelchair-bound. Placido Domingo, Sherrill Milnes, Mirella Freni & Tony Bennett on the other hand, seem to be in good form. Just an Idea: Rosie O'Donnell. She had a heart-attack, seems extremely choleric & writes confusing stuff on her Twitter feed. (Just like the late Carrie Fisher). Kathy Griffin is also a loose cannon. I think that both are capable of committing an act of madness. We may also see one or two suicides as a result of the MeToo movement. Polanski was able to come through difficult times, because he never lost the support of the film industry. But times have changed. Weinstein, Spacey & James Levine are probably too narcissistic to take their own lives, but others may not be able to endure life as an outcast.

In my opinion... one name to drop

This thread needs to be moved into the dead pool section.

The other day in psychology class, we were all laughing at how stupid Pavlov's dogs were. Then the bell rang and we all went to lunch.

The only certs I can think of for next year are: John McCain Leah Bracknell Denis Goldberg Jose Jose Charlotte Rae Those that are nearly certs: Nobby Stiles Ray Wilson John Hume Tessa Jowell Olivia Newton_John Kamala Stefan Karl Stefannson Liam Miller Dilip Kumar Those in serious danger Morgan Tsvangirai Wolfgang Bosbach Val Kilmer Mark E Smith Ric Flair Big Van Vader Chris Rea Christy Dignam Linda Nolan Ronnie Wood Larry King Billy McNeill Stevie Chalmers Trevor Peacock Stirling Moss Roger Bannister Gunter von Hagens Peter Lorimer Chris Mortensen Bernard Tapie Freddie Starr Robert Fyfe

Johnny Hallyday died two weeks ago. on my French speaking deathlist: Bernard Tapie Jacques Dutronc Françoise Hardy Brigitte Bardot Philippe Bouvard ( a 80-something radio host very famous in France) Robert Badinter ( French politician) Valéry Giscard d'Estaing Jacques Chirac Eugene Saccomano ( famous voice of radio especially for soccer fans) Jean-Marie Le Pen Marine Le Pen Pierre Bellemare France Gall Gilbert Rozon (accused of rape in Canada) Jacques Delors Martine Aubry (Delors' daughter, mayor of Lille for years, former minister) Gérard Depardieu and other names I forgot. Patrice Evra

King Arthur stayed at the Excalibur once. He pulled.

I'll try for the last CENTURY. 2017: Chuck Berry 2016: Tie Between David Bowie, Prince, Fidel Castro and Carrie Fisher 2015: Leonard Nimoy 2014: Robin Williams 2013: Nelson Mandela 2012: Neil Armstrong 2011: Tie between Steve Jobs and Osama bin Laden 2010: Blake Edwards 2009: Michael Jackson 2008: George Carlin 2007: Benazir Bhutto 2006: Saddam Hussein 2005: Tie between Rosa Parks and John Paul II 2004: Tie between Ronald Reagan and Marlon Brando 2003: Johnny Cash 2002: Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother 2001: George Harrison 2000: Charles Schulz 1999: Joe DiMaggio 1998: Frank Sinatra 1997: Princess Diana 1996: Carl Sagan 1995: Dean Martin 1994: Richard Nixon 1993: Audrey Hepburn 1992: Menachem Begin 1991: Tie between Freddie Mercury and Dr. Seuss 1990: Tie between Jim Henson and Roald Dahl 1989:Tie between Hirohito and Lucille Ball 1988: Enzo Ferrari 1987: Andy Warhol 1986: Wallis Simpson 1985: Orson Welles 1984: Indira Gandhi 1983: Tennessee Williams 1982: Tie between Ingrid Bergman and Grace Kelly 1981: Bob Marley 1980: Tie between Jesse Owens, Alfred Hitchcock and John Lennon 1979: John Wayne 1978: Pope Paul VI 1977: Tie between Elvis Presley, Groucho Marx, Bing Crosby and Charlie Chaplin 1976: Tie between Agatha Christie and Mao Zedong 1975: Francisco Franco 1974: Charles Lindbergh 1973: Lyndon B. Johnson 1972: Harry S. Truman 1971: Jim Morrison 1970: Jimi Hendrix 1969: Tie between Dwight D. Eisenhower and Judy Garland 1968: Martin Luther King Jr. 1967: Che Guevara 1966: Walt Disney 1965: Winston Churchill 1964: Tie between Douglas MacArthur and Herbert Hoover 1963: John F. Kennedy 1962: Tie between Marilyn Monroe and Eleanor Roosevelt 1961: Ernest Hemingway 1960: Clark Gable 1959: Frank Lloyd Wright 1958: Ernest Lawrence 1957: Humphrey Bogart 1956: Alben W. Barkley 1955: Tie between Albert Einstein and James Dean 1954: Alan Turing 1953: Joseph Stalin 1952: Tie between George VI and Eva Peron 1951: Shoeless Joe Jackson 1950: George Orwell 1949: Louis II of Monaco 1948: Gandhi 1947: Tie between Al Capone and Henry Ford 1946: H.G. Wells 1945: Tie between FDR and Hitler 1944: Erwin Rommel 1943: Nikola Tesla 1942: Carole Lombard 1941: Kaiser Wilhelm II 1940: F. Scott Fitzgerald 1939: Sigmund Freud 1938: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk 1937: John D. Rockefeller 1936: Rudyard Kipling 1935: Will Rogers 1934: Marie Curie 1933: Calvin Coolidge 1932: Kate M. Gordon 1931: Thomas Edison 1930: William Howard Taft 1929: Wyatt Earp 1928: Roald Amundsen 1927: Lizzie Borden 1926: Harry Houdini 1925: Pancho Villa 1924: Tie between Vladimir Lenin and Woodrow Wilson 1923: Warren G. Harding 1922: Alexander Graham Bell 1921: Nicholas I of Montenegro 1920: Robert Peary 1919: Theodore Roosevelt 1918: Tsar Nicholas II 1917: Buffalo Bill Cody

Worth noting she is the sole survivor from the time magazine photo of the century.