ladyfiona 2,558 Posted June 5 I'm sure I could think of a few new suggestions if you are taking requests. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 5 Just now, ladyfiona said: Any on-stage performer for a country in a Eurovision Grand Final. - would that include the supporting band? We've already done that one! And we included anyone on stage. But not the conductors or orchestra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,558 Posted June 5 Just now, RoverAndOut said: We've already done that one! And we included anyone on stage. But not the conductors or orchestra. Dammit, you quoted me before I edited it as I realised my error, lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 5 I tried to come up with categories in different areas: TV, film, music, public life and something else, but there's not a specific formula. Basically they need to have a wide enough pool of options that we don't all end up picking the same choices (sometimes we've been more successful than others on that front). Message Biblio, he's very helpful at kicking around ideas and knowing what might work and what might need a tweak. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThereWillBeDeaths7 718 Posted June 5 2 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: Message Biblio, he's very helpful at kicking around ideas and knowing what might work and what might need a tweak. She's Edit: actually, my bad. When I responded I was almost sure Biblio had been referred to as female in the past on here but can't find a trace of it anymore on the forum. My mind must've made a false connection; however I'm still on the young side to consider for your shortlists! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 5 13 minutes ago, ThereWillBeDeaths7 said: She's How did I not know this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,731 Posted June 6 3 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: How did I not know this? Because it's not true? Or at least it'd also be news to me. (and twbd7 has also edited now). I mean not that it matters a jot, especially in this place where it's a pretty fluid concept in the first place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 6 5 minutes ago, En Passant said: Because it's not true? Or, at least it'd also be news to me. (and twbd7 has also edited now). I mean not that it matters a jot, especially in this place where it's a pretty fluid concept in the first place. Thought I was going mad! I was sure Biblio talked about his wife and daughter, then I started wondering if I'd been presumptuous in the 21st century. No harm done, we all make mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,509 Posted June 6 12 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: You know, at some point we're going to have to revisit some of these! I am not against reason previous categories 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,509 Posted June 6 13 hours ago, BuffaloPhil said: OK I'll start having a think. Is there a list of all the previous categories anywhere - a, to avoid duplicating and b, to get some ideas! If you want to DM the initial thoughts before going public so we can kick around any boundary issues. As I said there is no hurry I probably will not launch the new game until second week of July 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 6 2 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: If you want to DM the initial thoughts before going public so we can kick around any boundary issues. As I said there is no hurry I probably will not launch the new game until second week of July But Toast needs thinking time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,509 Posted June 6 1 minute ago, RoverAndOut said: But Toast needs thinking time! If we can get them sorted before I go away then I will publish them but I will not be around to answer questions and early submitters will not get confirmation until I get back I will see what Buffalo Phil comes up with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,474 Posted June 6 Is one rule of categories that there has to be a definitive list available somewhere? For instance, it's easy to find a list of, say, every US senator. And by going to IMDB we can find, idk, everyone who appeared in an episode of Friends. But one category I came up with while waiting for DJ Minutemix to die was "Anyone who has had their name in the title of a commercially released video game", which there wouldn't be a definitive list of online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,509 Posted June 6 52 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said: Is one rule of categories that there has to be a definitive list available somewhere? For instance, it's easy to find a list of, say, every US senator. And by going to IMDB we can find, idk, everyone who appeared in an episode of Friends. But one category I came up with while waiting for DJ Minutemix to die was "Anyone who has had their name in the title of a commercially released video game", which there wouldn't be a definitive list of online. I have never gone for absolute definitive lists for example the Time lists one last time was hell to research as many of the lists were not visible for non-Time subscribers Like with most games there is a balance between getting a hit (that is reported) or getting a unique - because Uniques here have a special place in the game the wider the category possibly the quicker the game but all three way of winning have been acheived in the five games so far. Buffalo Phil got one in each category which on the face of it looks the easiest way to win There was one suggested category that got dropped because of lack of definition - Atheist Musicians 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,558 Posted June 6 One category suggestion - Met Gala Guests 1948 - Present 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuffaloPhil 913 Posted June 6 Thanks all (especially Toast for the list), still thinking! I'm away for the weekend (visiting lovely Norway) so won't be properly working on it until next week. Feel free to post any suggestions here or DM me in the meantime. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 6 11 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: I have never gone for absolute definitive lists for example the Time lists one last time was hell to research as many of the lists were not visible for non-Time subscribers Like with most games there is a balance between getting a hit (that is reported) or getting a unique - because Uniques here have a special place in the game the wider the category possibly the quicker the game but all three way of winning have been achieved in the five games so far. Buffalo Phil got one in each category which on the face of it looks the easiest way to win There was one suggested category that got dropped because of lack of definition - Atheist Musicians I'm currently updating my stats for previous games (I lost some data on a corrupted hard drive, so it's taking a bit of time), but one thing I mentioned in the last thread was that Game 1 was won by Unique Picks, Game 2 by All 5 Categories and Game 3 by Whole Category. Game 4 was won by Unique Picks, so if the pattern continued, Game 5 would be won by All 5 Categories...which it has! Whole Category should be next but that may require a massacre at the Met Gala or something. What I would say to people throwing ideas out is be careful! You may need to save some ideas for your own game! (Especially if it's a good one ) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,509 Posted June 7 10 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: I'm currently updating my stats for previous games (I lost some data on a corrupted hard drive, so it's taking a bit of time), but one thing I mentioned in the last thread was that Game 1 was won by Unique Picks, Game 2 by All 5 Categories and Game 3 by Whole Category. Game 4 was won by Unique Picks, so if the pattern continued, Game 5 would be won by All 5 Categories...which it has! Whole Category should be next but that may require a massacre at the Met Gala or something. What I would say to people throwing ideas out is be careful! You may need to save some ideas for your own game! (Especially if it's a good one ) At the current rate of these games the game after this won't start until well into 2026 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 10 OK, so as per @MortalCaso's request, here are some end of game stats for Round 5 of the Scavenger Hunt, and how it measures up to previous rounds! Game 5 took just over 17 months from start to finish. This is technically the second shortest game after Game 3 (which I also chose the categories for! ) which lasted just 8 months due to the James Bond Massacre. But 3 of the 5 games have now finished in around 17 months (Game 1 lasted about a week longer and Game 4 about 2 weeks longer). Game 2 was by far the longest game, lasting a whopping 27 months! In Game 5, we had 27 hits during active gameplay. This was perhaps surprising given we had 27 players, by far the most of any game. Game 2 (33 hits) and Game 4 (48 hits!) had more, while Game 1 had 24 hits and Game 3 had just 19 due to its short nature. The most profitable category in this game was Oscar Nominated Actors, with 10 hits (enough to win twice over!), while the least profitable was Brit Award Winners with just 2 hits. Across all 5 games, 10 is about average for a game, with House of Lords (Game 1) and James Bond Actors (Game 3) also being top with 10. Grammys (Game 2) had 11 hits and Olympic Gold Medallists (Game 4) had an impressive 14 hits! And while 2 hits for the Brits seems low, aside from Title Winning Boxers (Game 2) with 3 hits, the lowest in each round has actually been lower! Eurovision Performers (Game 3) and Cabinet Ministers (Game 4) both saw just 1 hit apiece, while the US Presidential Candidates category in Game 1 didn't see a single hit during gameplay! @BuffaloPhil won with his 8th hit of the game. This is about normal, with @Banana (Game 3) and me (@RoverAndOut) in Game 2 also winning with our 8th hits. @Rotten Ali won Game 1 with just his 7th hit, while my second win in Game 4 was with my 10th hit, the most of any game so far. For just the second time in 5 games, the person with the most hits in the game did not win! Games 2 and 4 (Rover) and 3 (Banana) were all won by the person with the most hits, but Game 1 (which Rotten Ali won) saw me and @Death Impends lead the way with 8 hits, but Ali win with 7. This time, @gcreptile had an impressive 11 hits, the most of any player so far in regular gameplay, but it was not enough to clinch the title! For the 3rd (or 4th) time in 5 games, the first person to reach a winning position did not end up winning! Rotten Ali was first to a winning position and did win Game 1, and Banana was joint-1st to the winning point in Game 3 and ended up winning. But in Game 2, Death Impends was first to the winning position, but only finished 5th overall (I was joint-7th to the winning position and won with the very next hit!). Reptile was joint-1st with Banana in Game 3 and finished 3rd and @msc was first to reach a winning position in Game 4, but missed out on the podium, finishing 4th! (I was 4th out of 13 to reach a winning position!). It remains to be seen how long it takes @Spade_Cooley to complete this game - he has been waiting for a Brit Award Winner to die since August last year! Tough luck, Spade! 10 players were within 1 hit of victory when Game 5 finished this week, and 3 more reached a winning position with the winning hit! This was similar to Game 4, which had 13 players 1 hit away when the game ended, while Games 2 and 3 both had 7 players in the mix and Game 1 had 5 on the verge of winning when Ali ended the game. @Commtech Sio Bibble and @Captain Hemlock unfortunately did not score a hit during this entire game, but I hope they will take some comfort from the fact it has happened before! @Dying Probably suffered the same fate in Game 3 and @Handrejka too in Round 1 - sadly neither of those have so far taken part in a subsequent round, but fortunes can change gang! Don't give up! (I'll have further food for thought for Captain Hemlock in a previous game update too...) Finally, as I've mentioned before on this page, we are following an odd pattern of winning methods across the games so far! Game 1 was won by 3 Unique Picks. Game 2 was won by a Hit in Each Category. Game 3 was won by All 5 Hits in One Category. Game 4 was won by 3 Unique Picks. Game 5 was won by a Hit in Each Category. We'll see what happens when @BuffaloPhil picks the categories for Game 6! What a fun and ingenious game the Scavenger Hunt is - thanks for coming up with it @Bibliogryphon. I'll publish some updates on previous rounds progress in due course. Hope at least some of you find all this nonsense interesting! 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,558 Posted June 10 Don't know if @BuffaloPhil is interested in making this a theme, but I got a bit invested in making a list of people who have attended the Met Gala since 1948 and am now making a spreadsheet. Once done it will end up on a Google Docs. Edit - I'm invested in those before 1990 mainly because it was more old socialite types who attended and I discovered New York Times have an archive. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,726 Posted June 10 30 minutes ago, ladyfiona said: Don't know if @BuffaloPhil is interested in making this a theme, but I got a bit invested in making a list of people who have attended the Met Gala since 1948 and am now making a spreadsheet. Once done it will end up on a Google Docs. One to save for your own game, perhaps, as and when you win a round! It's a hell of a topic, I'll give you that. As a purveyor of Deathlist spreadsheets, I approve. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuffaloPhil 913 Posted June 11 It's a great category, and your research is impressive, @ladyfiona! I'd feel bad about nicking it though! If I can come up with five good categories I'll leave it for you for a future game, if I'm struggling I might do the dirty 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,558 Posted June 11 26 minutes ago, BuffaloPhil said: It's a great category, and your research is impressive, @ladyfiona! I'd feel bad about nicking it though! If I can come up with five good categories I'll leave it for you for a future game, if I'm struggling I might do the dirty That is fine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,509 Posted June 19 Ladies and Gentlemen Following discussion with our champion @BuffaloPhil the five categories for Round VI have been confirmed I will be shortly creating a new thread. The game will not begin until 1st August but I have decided to give you plenty of Research time All entries will need to be PM'd to me (and I have just cleared my backlog of messages so it won't fill up) I would prefer it if people could wait until after 8th of July to start sending entries in as I will not be able to do anything with them until after that but do use the time wisely for research This will probably last us into 2026 9 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
