Derby Dead Pool 2023

[The Old Crem 3,583]

I’ve noticed the Stage dates its obituaries so should it be considered as an Obit source for 2024? It’s no more niche than the Radio Times. 
 

Also the List of the Missed has started of busier this year. 11 already for January compared to 9 last January. 

[diego 1,984]

6 hours ago, Youth in Asia said:

Ame o nome da sua equipe!

 

Thank you 

[msc 18,439]

11 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

I’ve noticed the Stage dates its obituaries so should it be considered as an Obit source for 2024? It’s no more niche than the Radio Times. 
 

Also the List of the Missed has started of busier this year. 11 already for January compared to 9 last January. 

 

Willz requested The Stage as a future QO during Latham Gate. We looked into it at the time. They didn't date their obits at the time and it was behind a paywall. The Cmme in general was wary that is a bit too specialist - if The Stage is allowed, why not the Racing Post? And so on.

 

Radio Times got on because it was the best seller in its field and as a make-do for not having The Stage. Which has since provided 0 obits - but I like having it there as legacy media.

[The Old Crem 3,583]

16 minutes ago, msc said:

 

Willz requested The Stage as a future QO during Latham Gate. We looked into it at the time. They didn't date their obits at the time and it was behind a paywall. The Cmme in general was wary that is a bit too specialist - if The Stage is allowed, why not the Racing Post? And so on.

 

Radio Times got on because it was the best seller in its field and as a make-do for not having The Stage. Which has since provided 0 obits - but I like having it there as legacy media.

I wonder when they switched to dating them. 

[drunkasaskunk 194]

8 hours ago, Youth in Asia said:

Love your team name!

I am not trying to be cheeky or anything, but how do you know what his team name is?

 

Thanks.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,194]

If you allow The Stage, can you allow Autosport   so I can get 20 hits, ta 

 

[YoungWillz 21,037]

Well, I recall they did consider adding GB News this year, but didn't.

 

With Yahoo along with the others, if you can't get an obit, your pick just wasn't enough for the DDP. 

 

Maybe they could institute the Ronnie Hellstrom Memorial Award for most famous on the List of the Lost. 

[msc 18,439]

38 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Well, I recall they did consider adding GB News this year, but didn't.

 

With Yahoo along with the others, if you can't get an obit, your pick just wasn't enough for the DDP. 

 

Maybe they could institute the Ronnie Hellstrom Memorial Award for most famous on the List of the Lost. 

Therein lies the rub. Expanding the QO further wouldn't help Hellstrom or Sonny Caldinez or others who should get obits but don't! Because they didn't exist!

[Death Impends 7,964]

36 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Maybe they could institute the Ronnie Hellstrom Memorial Award for most famous on the List of the Lost. 

 

I think my 2022 writeup was the first time the year in review gave specific shouts to "they didn't obit but really should have"? I'll prolly make it a routine thing.

[Youth in Asia 1,086]

1 hour ago, drunkasaskunk said:

I am not trying to be cheeky or anything, but how do you know what his team name is?

 

Thanks.

Well i am no sherlock holmes but there is a team called diego, so I applied my brain and  put 2 and 2 together 

[Youth in Asia 1,086]

47 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said:

If you allow The Stage, can you allow Autosport   so I can get 20 hits, ta 

 

Can you also allow 'Mothers of Celebs Monthly', a speciality publication 

[Toast 16,137]

27 minutes ago, Youth in Asia said:

Can you also allow 'Mothers of Celebs Monthly', a speciality publication 

 

Is that like Readers' Wives?

[drunkasaskunk 194]

1 hour ago, Toast said:

 

Is that like Readers' Wives?

Come again??

[drunkasaskunk 194]

I cant believe no one picked Sylvia Syms

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64426891?fbclid=IwAR3qlyb7sLAdqZqv5P_g7Es2MO2qq1EBNw5edVA6qQ9axjorNY1qF4jnWPU

 

She is ICE COLD now. 

 

[diego 1,984]

2 hours ago, Youth in Asia said:

Bem, eu não sou nenhum sherlock holmes, mas há uma equipe chamada diego, então eu apliquei meu cérebro e coloquei 2 e 2 juntos

I'm sooooo creative

[The Old Crem 3,583]

4 minutes ago, drunkasaskunk said:

I cant believe no one picked Sylvia Syms

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-64426891?fbclid=IwAR3qlyb7sLAdqZqv5P_g7Es2MO2qq1EBNw5edVA6qQ9axjorNY1qF4jnWPU

 

She is ICE COLD now. 

 

She was on four teams including my Eastenders one. 

[drunkasaskunk 194]

2 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

She was on four teams including my Eastenders one. 

Ah.

 

I see what happened.

 

She was on the list as SIMS.

 

I see it has been corrected now. 

[Evil Grimace 359]

First of all, many thanks to @Death Impends @gcreptile @Banana for the hard work in getting this year's DDP up and running.  And to @Grim Up North for stepping up - I hear retirement is boring too.

 

My two teams are in order and I'm looking forward to not winning again.  I keep my expectations low.

 

Onto the heart of the matter...

 

DDP Substitutions

 

Like many punters, I watched in December for any hints and whispers (and managed to miss Jeanette Lee's updates...).  The month saw Whale, Vialli, Pele and Benny all have hospitalizations - and two not make the 2023 starting line.  I entered my team ~17:15 GMT 30 December which had Benny on it.  So my first sub was called up:

 

Subs

Shannen Doherty - called up

Frankie Valli 

Barbara Walters died 30 December (I did not know at time of submission)

 

As well, 2023 had a 1st Jan hit with Frank McGarvey and Vialli soon on the 6th.  There have been two recent 1st Jan hits of D40 picks -  2022 Gary Burgess and 2021 Floyd Little.

 

With this said, I would say that an increase in the numbers of subs is acceptable, provided it doesn't cause more work for the Cmme.  If increased to say 4 or 5 in total, that's only one or two extra lines on the Excel sheet that may not be used.  The Cmme would know more the number of shorthanded teams with less than 20 too. The Cmme also knows the efforts of subbing in picks, so ultimately it is their call.

 

D40 vs Unique Points

 

In my main team, I was shocked to see that I have 18 (!!) D40 picks.  Yes, I knew of few would be there (Whale, Vialli, Carter, Barker, Harris, etc.) but others I did not expect.  So I have the potential of 54 extra points for doing nothing but following the crowd.  

 

Currently at D40 is +3 points and a Unique is +4 points.  My proposal is to give a 2 point differential:

 

D40 remains at +3 but Unique increases to +5 or D40 decreases to +2 and Unique remains at +4.

 

My preference is for 2/4 as it reduces the reward of being part of the herd and justifies the research into that Unique hit.  It does not inflate scores either.

 

So that my thoughts on those subjects.  I'll let the Cmme ruminate on them and I'm curious to hear what others have to add on these subjects (my thanks to @drunkasaskunk for starting these discussions). 

[The Old Crem 3,583]

On 24/01/2023 at 01:20, The Old Crem said:

Good to see the two who nearly made my Dames teams, Mary Peters and Esther Rantzen have both popped up on other teams. 

And good job Esther Rantzen has what with her now having secondary lung cancer. 

[gcreptile 10,967]

Esther Rantzen was only a sub for that broadcasting team. But I forgot who died to make room for her, maybe it was even a case of one of the original 20 names being picked twice.

[Death Impends 7,964]

15 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Esther Rantzen was only a sub for that broadcasting team. But I forgot who died to make room for her, maybe it was even a case of one of the original 20 names being picked twice.

 

I double checked, they had two Parkys.

[The Old Crem 3,583]

21 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Esther Rantzen was only a sub for that broadcasting team. But I forgot who died to make room for her, maybe it was even a case of one of the original 20 names being picked twice.

She was in my team until the honours list came out and I removed her (as the youngest member) for Virginia McKenna. 

[drunkasaskunk 194]

9 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

She was in my team until the honours list came out . . . . .. . 

Ah yes 

 

HONOURS ! ! !

 

Alan Cumming gives back OBE over links to 'toxic' British Empire

 

[Dying Probably 578]

Feck, I put Hazel McCallion on both my teams and lost myself the unique. 

[Handrejka 1,903]

1 hour ago, Dying Probably said:

Feck, I put Hazel McCallion on both my teams and lost myself the unique. 

I think I did the same with Carmel McSharry a few years ago.