Ulitzer95 12,623 Posted October 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, drol said: Deccan Herald running with it. Article now removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CastAway 488 Posted October 10, 2023 Times of India running with it still: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/veteran-economist-and-nobel-laureate-amartya-sen-passes-away-at-89/articleshow/104316299.cms?from=mdr 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,051 Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, CastAway said: Times of India running with it still: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/veteran-economist-and-nobel-laureate-amartya-sen-passes-away-at-89/articleshow/104316299.cms?from=mdr Based on a PTI news tweet now removed. Hoax. His own daughter denies it. End of story 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,050 Posted October 10, 2023 I'm a lot more cautious these days. The obvious signs of Mr or Mrs Hoaxer are: Minimal amount of tweets. Recent account. The words "minutes ago" or "moments ago". And yet folk keep falling for it without checking the real source. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,051 Posted October 10, 2023 On another note : is Sen deathlist worthy ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,623 Posted October 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, CastAway said: Times of India running with it still: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/veteran-economist-and-nobel-laureate-amartya-sen-passes-away-at-89/articleshow/104316299.cms?from=mdr Article has now been edited to say he's still alive. As Lafrenchy said, it's a hoax. End of. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,051 Posted October 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: As Lafrenchy said, it's a hoax I'm on the verge of changing my username… 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polar duck 873 Posted October 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said: On another note : is Sen deathlist worthy ? Yes. He was on my Shortlist until last week. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,606 Posted October 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said: On another note : is Sen deathlist worthy ? Yes multiple people on my main Twitter/X list I have created were commenting on the hoax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Grimace 359 Posted October 11, 2023 23 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said: On another note : is Sen deathlist worthy ? When I first read this, I dismissed it as a trivial question. Sen is notable as a recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (1998) and so DL worthy. What I think is the better question is would he be selected? And my first thought was no. But on looking at the evidence, it isn't impossible. The death hoax could have raised his profile. And the DL did select and get at hit from a past Economic Sciences winner. The DL does take economists as picks, such as Alan Greenspan. The table below summaries Nobel picks for the DL. Name Most Recent Year DL Nobel Appearances Hit (Y/N) Henry Kissinger 2023 Peace 11 - Jimmy Carter 2023 Peace 8 - Mikhail Gorbachev (d. 2022) 2022 Peace 2 Y Desmond Tutu (d. 2021) 2020 Peace 5 N Nelson Mandela (d. 2013) 2013 Peace 8 Y Milton Friedman (d. 2006) 2006 Economics 3 Y As you can see, they are overwhelmingly Peace laureates, three as former heads of governments. The main issues is there are more notable or older Laureates to pick. Robert Solow (Economic Sciences 1987) is 99 now and has been suggested before - and the DL likes their nonagenarians. Time for a Literature pick? Why not Bob Dylan age 82 (Lit 2016) or Wole Soyinka age 89 (Lit 1986)? Soyinka was also subject to a death hoax iirc. Want to stick with Peace? Lech Walesa is 80 and was unwell and unable to attend Queen Elizabeth's funeral last year. How much longer will Aung San Suu Kyi (age 78) endure house arrests, prison and sham trials? And last but not least, James Watson aged 95 (Med 1962) - possibly the only candidate I can think of that can put and keep their foot in their mouth more that Prince Philip; had a car accident in 2018 with an extended recovery. So what are the chances for Sen to be picked? TBH, slim to none. I cannot forecast the selections of the DL and I know of no market force to influence the outcome. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,977 Posted October 11, 2023 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Harold Pinter, Mother Teresa, and John Nash were also Nobel DL hits. And Yasser Arafat was picked on the DL as well (though died a non-hit). 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,051 Posted October 11, 2023 Wasn’t it the second time Amartya Sen was rumored dead in the past 2-3 years also ? Edit : a quick search on the forum showed nothing relevant except this interesting health details from @arghton : "Amartya Sen - Diagnosed with throat/oral cancer and given an 15% survival in 1952. The radiation he got during the treatment had severe effect on his bones and in 1971 he suffered severe bone necrosis. In 2018 he had prostate cancer and was still undergoing radiation therapy in 2020. Also has been decrepit for years now. ". Wouldn't be a bad pick for 2024 imo. I must have dreamt his other death rumors though… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Grimace 359 Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Death Impends said: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Harold Pinter, Mother Teresa, and John Nash were also Nobel DL hits. And Yasser Arafat was picked on the DL as well (though died a non-hit). And I thought I did a decent job of reviewing the past lists! I'm annoyed with myself that I missed Nash, b/c the 'Crash takes Nash' was a one-in-a-million title for his DL obit. So that's two of Lit with Solzhenitsyn and Pinter, Peace with Mother Teresa and Arafat and another Economic Sciences with Nash. That makes a hit rate of 7/9, missing only Arafat and Tutu. For the demographics of 11 picks: 0 Physics 0 Chemistry 0 Medicine or Physiology 2 Literature (Solzhenitsyn, Pinter) 7 Peace (Kissinger, Carter, Gorbachev, Tutu, Mandela, Mother Teresa, Arafat) 2 Economic Sciences (Friedman, Nash) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,050 Posted October 13, 2023 Rumours on the BigXBoard that DDP pick Louise Gluck, 2020 Laureate in Literature, has died. Cannot find any reliable source. Anything on the Big Book of Face? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wannamaker 1,407 Posted October 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Rumours on the BigXBoard that DDP pick Louise Gluck, 2020 Laureate in Literature, has died. Cannot find any reliable source. Anything on the Big Book of Face? Poet Henri Cole posted this, seems to be true 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,050 Posted October 13, 2023 Louise Gluck reportedly dead with a source: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/news/louise-gl-ck-nobel-winning-192553054.html 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
La Tombe 354 Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Louise Gluck reportedly dead with a source: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/news/louise-gl-ck-nobel-winning-192553054.html What a sad news. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,740 Posted November 4, 2023 Amartya Sen honored at an International Rescue Committee event this week. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,972 Posted November 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, arghton said: Amartya Sen honored at an International Rescue Committee event this week. Oh... he looks like the WW 2 veterans they still manage to present sometimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,050 Posted November 6, 2023 On 18/01/2023 at 20:43, Summer in Transylvania said: Here are the survivors of my 2023 suggestions list, updated for the new year: - Narges Mohammadi - In a similar situation to Bialiatski, she is the 2023 Nobel Peace Prize winner, currently serving sixteen years in prison for her activism in Iran. Apparently, she is also being tortured. Narges Mohammadi goes on the old hunger strike: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-12715361/Nobel-Peace-Prize-laureate-Narges-Mohammadi-goes-hunger-strike-imprisoned-Iran.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Grimace 359 Posted December 17, 2023 Recent picture of John C. Polanyi (Chemistry laureate, 1986, wiki) from an early December event at the University of Toronto. Compared to the 2019 picture in the wiki article, he's noticeably aged. For clarity, he's the one with the cane - the others are department of chemistry faculty. @MariNisia - nice pick btw in the Nobel Prize deadpool, nearly certain you did not see this picture prior to your selection. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,947 Posted December 18, 2023 None of the elder Nobel Prize winners seems to be in failing health. I recently spoke with two elderly Chemistry winners (won't name them) and they still go to work ten hours a day. Also Martin Karplus is still directing his small group in Boston, he just seems unsinkable. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Grimace 359 Posted December 18, 2023 4 hours ago, drol said: None of the elder Nobel Prize winners seems to be in failing health. I recently spoke with two elderly Chemistry winners (won't name them) and they still go to work ten hours a day. Also Martin Karplus is still directing his small group in Boston, he just seems unsinkable. Reading this reminds me of the saying, 'Old chemists never die; they just reach equilibrium'. The American Chemical Society (ACS) was even forward thinking enough to make it a bumper sticker! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,584 Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Evil Grimace said: Reading this reminds me of the saying, 'Old chemists never die; they just reach equilibrium'. The American Chemical Society (ACS) was even forward thinking enough to make it a bumper sticker! As a Chartered Chemist I probably need one of those 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,623 Posted December 21, 2023 Robert Solow dead at 99. https://x.com/ivanwerning/status/1737968022042673291?s=46&t=UENGoez2FLndgJC40K16Wg Link not embedding but it means that the user who keeps suggesting him can finally turn his attention elsewhere. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites