ThereWillBeDeaths7 722 Posted June 13 15 hours ago, arrowsmith said: The question is can he outlive them all? Blumenthal is 98, Marshall almost 96, and Califano is 93. It would be absolutely astounding if he managed it, but it’s within the realm of possibility. Even if Carter doesn't outlive all of them, it won't be long before they're all gone. Goldschmidt was the youngest surviving one by almost a decade, having passed away four days shy of his 84th birthday. As you've shown, the other three are in their mid to late nineties and could realistically pass away at any moment. There are three living secretaries from the Ford administration as well; John Knebel (87), David Matthews (88) and Carla Hills (90). It wouldn't surprise me if they outlived Carters remaining secretaries as they're all slightly "younger". 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polar duck 871 Posted June 13 On 29/08/2023 at 10:08, polar duck said: List of US Cabinet members from the 20th century: Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) Hide contents VP: Walter Mondale (1928–2021; 93) Secretary of State: Cyrus Vance (1917–2002; 84), Ed Muskie (1914–1996; 81) Secretary of the Treasury: W. Michael Blumenthal (b. 1926), G. William Miller (1925–2006; 81) Secretary of Defense: Harold Brown (1927–2019; 91) Attorney General: Griffin Bell (1918–2009; 90), Ben Civiletti (1935–2022; 87) Secretary of the Interior: Cecil Andrus (1931–2017; 85) Secretary of Agriculture: Bob Bergland (1928–2018; 90) Secretary of Commerce: Juanita Kreps (1921–2010; 89), Philip Klutznick (1907–1999; 92) Secretary of Labor: Ray Marshall (b. 1928) Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare: Joe Califano (b. 1931), Patricia Roberts Harris (1924–1985; 60) Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare and Human Services: Patricia Roberts Harris (1924–1985; 60) Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Patricia Roberts Harris (1924–1985; 60), Moon Landrieu (1930–2022; 92) Secretary of Transportation: Brock Adams (1927–2004; 77), Neil Goldschmidt (1940–2024; 83) Secretary of Energy: James Schlesinger (1929–2014; 85), Charles Duncan Jr. (1926–2022; 96) Secretary of Education: Shirley Hufstedler (1925–2016; 90) Updated for Neil Goldschmidt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polar duck 871 Posted June 14 (edited) Former Congressman George Nethercutt (R-WA) dead at 79. He ousted incumbent House Speaker Tom Foley in 1994. Edited June 15 by polar duck 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hemlock 742 Posted June 14 This has not been a good week for politicians from the US Pacific Northwest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zsa Zsa's leg 884 Posted June 15 4 hours ago, polar duck said: George Nethercutt (D-WA) Small note, but Nethercutt was a Republican. His win over Foley was the first time an incumbent Speaker had been defeated for re-election since 1862 and was the cherry on top for the "Republican revolution" in 1994. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alt obits guy 3,371 Posted June 15 Herman Paul Pressler III, a former Texas politician and judge, and a key figure in the conservative resurgence of the Southern Baptist Convention, has died. He was 94. https://www.texastribune.org/2024/06/15/paul-pressler-dead-southern-baptist-convention/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,970 Posted June 16 That reminds me... the other Pressler, Larry. He's moved into a senior home after the death of his wife: https://www.keloland.com/news/local-news/larry-presslers-homecoming/ He's in good health despite having pancreatic and bladder cancer. I suspect that the bladder cancer is the primary tumor that spread to the pancreas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimgrass 514 Posted June 16 On 20/10/2020 at 13:02, arghton said: Carl-Olof Tallgren (b. 1927) Minister of Finance 1970-1971 during the Karjalainen II cabinet Carl-Olof Tallgren has died aged 97. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,945 Posted June 16 Taisto is now the only living Finnish minister to have served. That guy is a survivor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,945 Posted June 17 On 22/07/2023 at 22:04, arghton said: *Ahmad Bishti (1927-?) Foreign Minister 1965-1968. Mentioned still living but I can't find any proof, but if still alive, a living relic of the Kingdom of Libya. Does this FB post suggest Ahmad Bishti died in 2016? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,596 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, drol said: Does this FB post suggest Ahmad Bishti died in 2016? Yes 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,731 Posted June 17 18 hours ago, drol said: Taisto is now the only living Finnish minister to have served. That guy is a survivor. Taisto Tähkämaa is also now the last living Finnish minister born in the 1920s. The second-oldest is Jermu Laine, a former minister for foreign trade, 7 years younger. I'm a bit suprised Laine is still alive too, his daughter (who was also his caregiver) died over a year ago. Full list of my other "suprised they're still alive" Finnish members of parliament, in addition to Tähkämaa and Laine, for low requirement pools (Hares, Electoral DP etc.): Raimo Ilaskivi - 96, indestructible National Coalition stalwart, presidential candidate and former Lord Mayor of Helsinki. Multiple bouts of intestinal cancer, skin cancer and other ailments. Caregiver of his demented wife, still active on Facebook and often interviewed. Paavo Nikula - 81, suffered an enormous stroke while serving as Chancellor of Justice in 2007. Hospitalised for months on ventilator and his condition has been unknown since. Erkki Pystynen - 94, former Speaker of Parliament. As far as I know, no appearances in the last nine years. Iiro Viinanen - 79, Parkinson's since the 1990s. Antero Laukkanen - 66, ALS, in a hospice late last year, back home now as his disease didn't progress as quickly as expected. Pekka Vennamo - 79, spent more or less a year fighting for his life in hospital with covid and complications a few years back. Pirkko Ikonen - 96, in a care home for years. Elisabeth Rehn - 89, emergency surgery to remove a malignant colon tumor in 1995, breast cancer, other ailments. Kati Peltola - 83, political relic, Alzheimer's. Ralf Friberg - 88, political relic, his career peaked sometime fifty years ago. Juha Väätäinen - 82, squamous cell carcinoma, serious fall in 2014, near-fatal car crash in 2017, heart surgery in 2021, stroke in 2022. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,525 Posted June 18 Chuwit Kamolvisit now receiving palliative care according to Thai media. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gisooo 3,329 Posted June 18 On 02/08/2022 at 22:10, arghton said: 31. North Macedonia Vladimir Mitkov (1931) Communist "leader" Stojan Andov (1935) Founder of the Liberal Party, former President of Parliament Vasil Tupurkovski (1951) picture of health 3rd Member of the Presidency of Yugoslavia for SR Macedonia 1989-1991 North Macedonian politician Stojan Andov (Wiki) dead at 88 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,589 Posted June 18 Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Nathaly Antona (RN-ID) has passed away aged 49. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,589 Posted June 21 On 08/06/2024 at 12:49, Ulitzer95 said: FFS. If you were to come up with a list of ways to make the Lords even worse than the status quo, I’d suggest do this. Labour, as usual, haven’t a clue. They’re just stabbing around in the dark and putting anything together on a fag packet that sounds like it could be mildly enticing to voters cos they essentially don’t really care as power is already assured for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alt obits guy 3,371 Posted June 24 On 27/10/2022 at 08:09, arghton said: Australia has a lot of elderly politicians. Bill Grayden is 102, Elisabeth Kirkby is 101, Wylie Gibbs is 100, Tom Hughes and Bill Nankivell are 99, former Governor of South Australia Eric Neal is 98, Ron Elstob is 97, Hugh Hiscutt and former President of the Senate Doug McClelland are 96 (not sure if Neville Harper is alive, if he is, he's also 96), Bruce Eastick, Bob Ellicott and others are 95. Bill Nankivell dead at 100: https://www.murraybridge.news/p/former-mp-bill-nankivell-dies 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,731 Posted June 26 Syed Husin Ali, Malaysian socialist politician and dissident hospitalised in critical condition, unconscious after sudden health deterioration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gisooo 3,329 Posted June 26 On 01/05/2022 at 18:44, arghton said: Deniz Baykal (1938-2023) Former deputy prime minister Yaşar Yakış (1938) Former foreign affairs minister Aytaç Durak (1938) Former Adana mayor, "Doyen of Turkey's local politics" Vecdi Gönül (1939) Former defence minister Former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Turkey Yaşar Yakış (Wiki) dead at 85 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wannamaker 1,407 Posted June 26 Coup attempt in Bolivia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,945 Posted June 27 Dick Durbin underwent hip replacement surgery. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,044 Posted June 27 On 13/06/2017 at 23:28, YoungWillz said: Richard Taylor, 85 (7 July 1934), Independent (Wyre Forest 2001-2010) Dr Richard Taylor former MP reportedly dead aged 89: Last picked for the DDP in 2022 by Here's Who You Could Have Won, so List of the Missed: https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2022/celebs_T.html#taylorr022 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,443 Posted June 27 15 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Dr Richard Taylor former MP reportedly dead aged 89: Last picked for the DDP in 2022 by Here's Who You Could Have Won, so List of the Missed: https://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/deadpool2022/celebs_T.html#taylorr022 A @Gooseberry Crumble type miss. Only ever picked by me so LOTL. Ran as an independent solely to bring back the A&E department at Kidderminster which happened during his time in office, perhaps making him one of the most successful politicians of the century tbh. He was also very pro trains and very anti Iraq War, two things I agree with. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,044 Posted June 27 4 minutes ago, msc said: A @Gooseberry Crumble type miss. Only ever picked by me so LOTL. Ran as an independent solely to bring back the A&E department at Kidderminster which happened during his time in office, perhaps making him one of the most successful politicians of the century tbh. He was also very pro trains and very anti Iraq War, two things I agree with. On the other hand, the seat has been represented by Conservative Mark Garnier since 2010. The current incumbent is pro-shotgun, pro-foodbanks, anti-same sex marriage and sent his aide who he called "sugar tits" to buy a couple of vibrators. He is also pro-dumping sewage into watercourses. Totally the person to get an OBE in 2024. He's standing again with a huge majority. Let's see if the worthies of Wyre Forest can be arsed to remove this creature. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,443 Posted June 27 26 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: On the other hand, the seat has been represented by Conservative Mark Garnier since 2010. The current incumbent is pro-shotgun, pro-foodbanks, anti-same sex marriage and sent his aide who he called "sugar tits" to buy a couple of vibrators. He is also pro-dumping sewage into watercourses. Totally the person to get an OBE in 2024. He's standing again with a huge majority. Let's see if the worthies of Wyre Forest can be arsed to remove this creature. An NHS campaigner being replaced by a hedge fund manager did sum up the 2010 election, mind you. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites