Derby Dead Pool 2018

[RadGuy 1,614]

To Kill A Gabor Sister 2018

 

Leah Bracknell

Patrick Cryne

Rayya Elias

Dean Francis 

Greg Gilbert (JOKER)

Vanessa Goodwin

Jose Jose

Tessa Jowell

Dilip Kumar

Devin Lima

Philomena Lynott

John McCain

Liam Miller

Efrain Rios Montt

Charlotte Rae

Fernando Ricksen

Stefan Karl Stefansson

Nobby Stiles

Marieke Vervoort

Bobby Zarin

[msc 18,480]

Some interesting teams in. What big teams are still to reveal? The Living End, drolercoaster, Heading nowhere, Deceased Hose, To Kill a Gabor Bird, for a few I'm interested in. Also Banshees lot if he lists them in here.

 

Apologies if I've forgotten someone.

[RadGuy 1,614]

On 12/24/2017 at 15:33, Phantom of the Midway said:

Ended up switching out a likely cult pick, a potential fraud, and a bonusless octogenarian ex-athlete. They're all in the sub bench now, and I ended up replacing them with a young musician, a survivor from my 2017 squad, and a new punt pick.

Swapped out Johnny Clegg, Bernard Tapie, and Bart Starr. 

 

Devin Lima, Stefan Karl Stefansson, and Marieke Vervoort took their place.

[DevonDeathTrip 2,358]

Here's my squad.   I'm hoping to do better than 21st place in 2017, my worst performance since 2006.  

 

The Living End 

1. Marieke Vervoort (Joker)
2. John McCain
3. Lindy Remigino
4. Steffan Lewis
5. Patrick Cryne
6. Steffan Karl Steffanson
7. Matt Cappotelli
8. Peter Lorimer
9. Johnny Clegg
10. Denis Goldberg
11. Tessa Jowell
12. Gerard Bassett
13. Liam Miller
14. Greg Gilbert
15. Leah Bracknell
16. Kalpana Lajmi
17. Rayya Ellias
18. Kathleen Blanco
19. Vanessa Goodwin
20. Dean  Francis

[msc 18,480]

2 minutes ago, DevonDeathTrip said:

 

 

The Living End 

1. Gerard Bassett

 

Aha, I was hoping someone would go for him. I was too conservative in my picks. Good luck DDT.

[Joey Russ 7,229]

Vervoort is the new Feek this year. Though I don’t expect her to linger on into March like Feek...

[Joey Russ 7,229]

There are a lot of great teams, very diverse as well imo. I actually think this will be one of the hardest years to predict a winner. Lots of potential for many teams...

[Heef 166]

Here's my teams. I did want to put in a Flying Nun theme team, but doubt many would get a QO

 

The Heeflich Manoeuvre 2018 (no theme)
1. Bill Crider
2. Jim Anderton (former NZ MP)
3. Sir Brian Lochore (former All Black great)
4. Sir Ngatata Love (convicted fraudster)
5. Terry Jones
6. Leah Bracknell
7. Stefan Karl Stefansson
8. Steve Gleason
9. Fernando Rickson
10. Stirling Moss
11. Thomas Keneally
12. Joss Ackland
13. Kenneth Cope
14. Clive James
15. John R Reid (cricketer) - not John F Reid
16. Devin Lima
17. Bernard Tapie
18. Tessa Jowell
19. Marieke Vervoort
20. Catherine Nevin
 

Heef's Politics XX (Politics theme team)
1. Vanessa Goodwin (Tasmanian AG)
2. Nuon Chea
3. Egon Krenz
4. Hosni Mubarak 
5. Michael Somare
6. Atal Bihari Vajpayee
7. Vojislav Seselj
8. Reynaldo Bignone
9. Morgan Tsvangirai
10. Kenneth Kaunda
11. Jim Anderton
12. Nikolai Ryzhkov
13. Jacques Chirac
14. George HW Bush
15. Tessa Jowell
16. Daniel Arap Moi
17. Alberto Fujimori
18. John McCain
19. Robert Mugabe
20. Graham Richardson (Aussie politician)
 

BBC Heaven (BBC Legends theme team)

1. David Attenborough 
2. Tom Baker
3. Barry Cryer
4. Bill Oddie
5. Nicholas Parsons
6. Kenneth Cope
7. Andrew Marr
8. Jenni Murray
9. Harold Snoad
10. Michael Checkland
11. Kate Adie
12. John Craven
13. Bill Oddie
14. David Jason
15. Noel Edmonds
16. Rachael Bland
17. John Cunliffe
18. Peter Firmin
19. Hugo Myatt
20. Prunella Scales

[mr.whit 10]

My first team may seem a little wacky, but I went with celebrities with same letter initials so without further ado- the super squirrels.
Joker (Pick 1): Nichelle Nichols born 1934 star trek actress
Pick 2: Joan Jett born 1959
Pick 3: Sylvester Stallone born 1946
Pick 4:Gloria Gaynor born 1949
Pick 5: Ozzie Osbourne born 1948
Pick 6: Tina Turner born 1939
Pick 7: Barbara Bush born 1925 -former first lady
Pick 8: Chubby Checker- Born 1941- American singer did the twist
Pick 9: Doris Day born 1922- Singer and actress
Pick 10: Emilio Estivez born 1962-actor
Pick 11: Adam Ant- born 1954- singer
Pick 12: Frances Fisher -born 1952 American Actress
Pick 13: Kevin Kline born 1947
Pick 14: Marilyn Manson born 1969
Pick 15: Paul Potts born 1970- British Opera singer
Pick 16: Robert Redford born 1936
Pick 17: Zinedine Zidane- born 1972
Pick 18:  Hulk Hogan  born 1953
Pick 19: Lennox Lewis born 1965 former boxer
Pick 20: Ion Iliescu born 1930 former preisdent of Romania

 

My second team I did the oldest toscar winning actors.

Joker (Pick 1): Olivia De Halivand born 1916
Pick 2: Eva Marie Saint born 1924

Pick 3: Dorothy Malone born 1925
Pick 4: Cloris Leachman born 1926
Pick 5: Sideney Potier born 1927
Pick 6: Estelle Parsons born 1927
Pick 7: Gene Hackman born 1930
Pick 8: Joanne Woodward born 1930
Pick 9: Sean Connery born 1930
Pick 10: Robert Duvall born 1931
Pick 11:  Olympia Dukakis born 1931
Pick 12:Rita Moreno born 1931
Pick 13: Joel Grey born 1932
Pick 14: Marisa Pavan born 1932
Pick 15: Ellen Burstyn born 1932
Pick 16:  Alan Arkin Born 1934

Pick 17:Shirley Jones born 1934
Pick 18:  Louise Fletcher born 1934
Pick 19:George Chakiris born 1934
Pick 20:  Sophia Loren born 1934
 

And finally my normal team

Team Name: Mr. Whits wonders

Joker (Pick 1):Sidney Potier born 1927
Pick 2: Olvia De Havilland born 1916
Pick 3: Barbara Bush born 1925
Pick 4: George HW Bush born 1924
Pick 5: John Mccain born 1936
Pick 6: Doris Day born 1922
Pick 7: Jimmy Carter born 1924
Pick 8: Kirk Douglas born 1916
Pick 9:  Billy Graham Born 1918
Pick 10:  Ian Holm born 1931
Pick 11: Francis Ford Copolla born 1939
Pick 12: Eva Marie Saint born 1924
Pick 13: Peter Mayhew born 1944
Pick 14: Tom Baker born 1934
Pick 15:Mikhail Gorbachev born 1931
Pick 16:Max Von Sydow born 1929
Pick 17:Michael Gambon born 1940
Pick 18: Nichelle Nichols born 1932
Pick 19 :Mick Jagger born 1943
Pick 20:Vera Lynn born 1917

 

My first year so I am just going to see how it goes.

[Gooseberry Crumble 5,346]

Some good choices @mr.whit but Barbara Bush wasn't born 1929. 1925 I believe but not as late as 1929.

 

Joel Grey was on a number of my shortlists but never made it through but nevertheless I think he's a good choice by you. 

[drunkasaskunk 194]

In 2016 I attended the funeral of one of my "hits" as I had worked with him.

 

It was weird.

 

This year I hope Liam Miller isn't a "hit" - not because I didn't pick him, but because he played for my Team (Celtic) and my English Team (Man.U)

 

Anyway, here is my latest effort

 

Marieke Vervoort (Joker)
Patrick Cryne

Leah Bracknell
John McCain - senator
Rayya Elias - author
Lynda $pargo  - cancer mum
Anth0ny Smith  - Cancer Grandad
$ara Chivers  - Cancer Mum
Amy Price - jordan’s Mother
Simon Ricketts
Baroness Wilson of Rievaulx
Emeritus Pope Benedict
Angus Sinclair -  "World's End" murderer
Peter Frates  - Ice bucket challenge man
Jimmy Carter
Rev Billy Graham
Robert Mugabe
Clive James
Fernando Ricksen
Jill Gascoine

[Sean 6,337]

Barbara Bush was born 8th June 1925.

[mr.whit 10]

Almost had it, sorry about that.

[msc 18,480]

With a glance over the teams announced here so far,  and with some big teams not announced yet, here's my immediate gut feeling for a DDP 2018 top 10 from the forum alone:

 

1. DDT c 158 points

2. DI c 157

3. Dead Cow c 150

4. Joey c. 144

5. Rad c. 138

6. Toast c. 130

7. Engineer c. 124

8. Gcreptile c. 122

9. Eesti c 120

10. Sean c 112

 

So, if Cow isn't really a dark horse now (2nd in 2017), I guess Joey is your potential break out star if the cards all fall correctly. I like Toast's team though, that's a floor of circa 130 if only the people expected to die do ie Vervoort, Stiles, Srefansson,  Miller, McCain, Jowell, James, Gilbert, Elias and Brackers. If Newton-John or Nolan's cancers spread, or Ricksen goes downhill quicker than I expect, or the likes of Herd and Greaves, that is a team with a right potential to crack the top 5, imo.

 

Last year I did think Spade would run away with the DDP at this point but on retrospect:

 

On 1/2/2017 at 02:57, msc said:

TL/DR: Bert's the sleeper Chorizo type this year, imo.

 

Sometimes, I accidentally see the bigger picture!

[Deathray 2,941]

If I start preparing now I might win in 2019. 

[Gooseberry Crumble 5,346]

8 minutes ago, msc said:

With a glance over the teams announced here so far,  and with some big teams not announced yet, here's my immediate gut feeling for a DDP 2018 top 10 from the forum alone:

 

1. DDT c 158 points

2. DI c 157

3. Dead Cow c 150

4. Joey c. 144

5. Rad c. 138

6. Toast c. 130

7. Engineer c. 124

8. Gcreptile c. 122

9. Eesti c 120

10. Sean c 112

 

So, if Cow isn't really a dark horse now (2nd in 2017), I guess Joey is your potential break out star if the cards all fall correctly. I like Toast's team though, that's a floor of circa 130 if only the people expected to die do ie Vervoort, Stiles, Srefansson,  Miller, McCain, Jowell, James, Gilbert, Elias and Brackers. If Newton-John or Nolan's cancers spread, or Ricksen goes downhill quicker than I expect, or the likes of Herd and Greaves, that is a team with a right potential to crack the top 5, imo.

 

Last year I did think Spade would run away with the DDP at this point but on retrospect:

 

 

Sometimes, I accidentally see the bigger picture!

I am wounded my fellow scot at how you have completely overlooked me and my three crumbles as contenders to shake up the competition and the leaderboard! 

 

My crumbles are definitely worth a tasty try! 

[CaptainChorizo 1,985]

My 2018 Teams

Heading Nowhere

1-Rayya Elias
2-John McCain
3-Paul Alcock
4-Marieke Vervoort
5-Patrick Cryne
6-Dilip Kumar
7-Bobby Zarin
8-Vanessa Goodwin
9-Leah Bracknell
10-Julie Shaw(Cancer Mum)
11-Fernando Ricksen
12-Dean Francis
13-Greg Gilbert
14-Matt Cappotelli
15-Yamaguchi-San
16-Stuart Fraser
17-Blackie Dammett
18-Jose Jose
19-Linda Nolan
20-Tessa Jowell

 

Mary Tsoni Memorial Deathsquad
People who first found fame in 21st century
1-Ami Brown
2-Kris Hallenga
3-Rudy Boesch
4-Giuliano Mignini(Magistrate in Amanda Knox Trial)
5-Tonetta
6-Melody Prochet
7-Natalya Pugacheva
8-Valeria Lukyanova
9-Jiri Ono
10-Everlyn Sampi
11-Gabe Nevins
12-Lil Wayne
13-Yung Lean
14-Sufe Bradshaw
15-Ally Law
16-Lilly Singh
17-Soko
18-John Bain/Total Biscuit
19-Sharon Rooney
20-Joey Coco Diaz

 

Team Name-Robbinsdale High School Memorial Deathsquad
*Wrestling Theme
1-Matt Cappotelli
2-Yamaguchi-San
3-Kamala
4-Sabu
5-Pedro Morales
6-Emily Dole
7-Adrian Street
8-Big Van Vader
9-Abdullah The Butcher
10-Jose Lothario
11-J.C. Ice/Jamie Dundee
12-Jacques Rougeau Sr.
13-Scott Hall
14-Sunny/Tammy Lynn Sytch
15-Aja Kong
16-Afa Anoai Sr
17-King Kong Bundy
18-The Great Kabuki
19-Noriyo Tateno
20-Bill Eadie"Ax"

 

[Joey Russ 7,229]

You know it's going to be real interesting next year, cause if most, if not all the gambles come into fruition, I could easily see a podium place for me by the end of the year. That said, I can easily see myself not getting any of my gambles and fall out of the top 20 next year. But there certainly is risk involved if you want to win, and there is lot of risky teams this year. DDT, for example, has a lot of the names that he mentioned himself on the forum, and a lot of 70 - 80 year olds with no drop 40 chance, as well as not going for any FFBI types this year (a gamble that I am taking myself). GCReptile didn't go for Stefansson or Gilbert, and a lot of his team are could die tomorrow or could die in a few years type names. Plus, he got slightly unlucky with losing two picks and having to replace them with 80 - 90 year olds with no drop 40 chance. But people have won with picks those ages who didn't make the drop 40 as recently as last year (Mario Soares). So I honestly think it's going to be a while before we can start to see who the real contenders are because there are so many gambles on most teams...

[YoungWillz 21,067]

Now wait, are you saying that my teams of carefully chosen no-hopers won't be contenders?

 

Because if you are...you're probably correct.

 

So, away the lads and lassies...

[Eesti 151]

7 hours ago, msc said:

With a glance over the teams announced here so far,  and with some big teams not announced yet, here's my immediate gut feeling for a DDP 2018 top 10 from the forum alone

 

In this algorythm of yours, who did you consider as certain hits?

[Grim Up North 3,727]

So my first team ever in the DDP as follows. I have realised since submitting that not making Marieke Vervoort my joker might have been a beginner's mistake but I am unsure if assisted dying is classed as murder (I don't think so) or suicide (I don't think so) but probably still an unnatural cause so that's going to mean I've thrown away 6 points.

 

GUN Fishing

Joker (Pick 1): Stefan Karl Stefansson
Pick 2: Erica Garner DNS Subbed by DJ Casper
Pick 3: Liam Miller
Pick 4: Linda Nolan
Pick 5: John McCain
Pick 6: Nobby Stiles
Pick 7: Patrick Cryne
Pick 8: Leah Bracknell
Pick 9: Rayya Elias
Pick 10: Vanessa Goodwin
Pick 11: Tessa Jowell
Pick 12: Tiffany Youngs
Pick 13: Greg Gilbert
Pick 14: Gabriel Grunewald
Pick 15: Dean Francis
Pick 16: Total Biscuit
Pick 17: Steffan Lewis
Pick 18: Pete Frates
Pick 19: Marieke Vervoort
Pick 20: Simon Ricketts

 

Then I spent the next 48 hours really regretting not putting Ami Brown in my team so I entered a second team which is just the same as the first team exceot I subbed out Gabriel Grunewald for Ami Brown. This was not a planned tactic just an amendment to help me sleep at night.

 

GUN Away

Joker (Pick 1): Stefan Karl Stefansson
Pick 2: Erica Garner DNS Subbed by DJ Casper
Pick 3: Liam Miller
Pick 4: Linda Nolan
Pick 5: John McCain
Pick 6: Nobby Stiles
Pick 7: Patrick Cryne
Pick 8: Leah Bracknell
Pick 9: Rayya Elias
Pick 10: Vanessa Goodwin
Pick 11: Tessa Jowell
Pick 12: Tiffany Youngs
Pick 13: Greg Gilbert
Pick 14: Ami Brown
Pick 15: Dean Francis
Pick 16: Total Biscuit
Pick 17: Steffan Lewis
Pick 18: Pete Frates
Pick 19: Marieke Vervoort
Pick 20: Simon Ricketts

[Sir Creep 7,070]

Jan 2

Dear Diary:

So I’m still tied for first place in DDP.

SirC

[msc 18,480]

9 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

Now wait, are you saying that my teams of carefully chosen no-hopers won't be contenders?

 

Because if you are...you're probably correct.

 

Not at all, nor the Crumbles or any other team. It's fairly easy to make a guess that someone with, say, Stage IV lung cancer, is likely going to die soon. That's a bit dull (not for the person of course). It's far more interesting to come up with a team of notable older folk, but also, nigh impossible to predict. Most of your teams could live another 5 years or go tomorrow! Anyhow, I wish you luck!

 

3 hours ago, Eesti said:

 

In this algorythm of yours, who did you consider as certain hits?

 

Vervoort (drop 40), Cryne, Bracknell (drop 40), McCain (drop 40), Elias, Mary Wilson (alas), Frates, clive James (drop 40), Chivers, Moss, Stefansson (Drop 40), Jowell (Drop 40), Nevin, Remigino, Lewis, Cappotelli, Miller, Gilbert, Blanco, Goodwin, Stiles (drop 40), Rae, Lynott, Youngs, Toothill - it's an estimated floor rather than a prediction (ie if everyone we expect to go does go, you should get at least 120 points). The estimated ceiling comes from Gcreptile's wonderful maths which is somewhat beyond simple old me.

2 hours ago, Grim Up North said:

GUN Fishing

Joker (Pick 1): Stefan Karl Stefansson
etc

 

This team, on paper, will be right up there too.

 

Chorizo's team is full of gambles, which makes early predictions underestimate him. They came through in 2016 and he nearly won though, so a team to watch.

[CaptainChorizo 1,985]

My Blackie Dammett gambit is entirely on this ,not sure what he is dying of but the dude has lived the sex , drugs and rock n roll lifestyle and turns 79.

 

[Predictor 1,018]

Made a Venn-diagram over the three main types of deathpooling picks and how they intersect. Using this as a template, where do your picks fit in?

 

 

Cancer mums: Those who are neither famous (in the traditional meaning of the word) nor old, but quite ill or even terminal. Obitability is a toss-up, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

 

List of the Lost: Those who are both old and ill, but lack the necessary fame to get obits when they do die.

 

Theme team fillers: Similar to the above, except there are no known health issues (other than old age). Usually used to fill out remaining spots for theme teams. The worst kind of picks for ambitious deathpoolers.

 

Olivia de Havilland: Famous old people that have no problems with their health. The kind pick that tends to stay on the DeathList for years and years by virtue of their fame.

 

Non-serious picks, i.e. Bieber: Usually wishful thinking, and/or not really taking the competition seriously. Could also be part of some theme teams.

 

DL-types: Look up the word "deathlisty" in the DeathList glossary lexicon at your local library, and this is what you will see: Someone who is both old enough, sick enough and famous enough to be a prime candidate for the committee.

 

Title-winning picks: These are the ones that guarantee high scores by being terminally ill, relatively young and left a sufficient mark in Britain to get a write-up in newspapers such as BBC.