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My apologies, I assumed you were interested in serious political discussion, not half-baked claptrap. At least I know for next time.

Are we sure this isn't Zorders?

Is anybody interested in the German equivalent? Then please have a look. Deceased Top 10 singles performers/German Charts 2000-2009:

Just been perusing this thread, so apologies for being a few days old but after Earl Cameron's death, I was looking at the research I did for Round 1 of Biblio's Scavenger Hunt Bingo (Doctor Who actors). By my reckoning, since I compiled the list in 2016, we've lost the oldest 5 living Doctor Who actors (of which Cameron was the oldest): Earl Cameron, Richard Beale, Peter Sallis, Dudley Simpson and Nicolas Parsons, plus plenty more from the top 20 or 30. I believe (and I'm sure someone on here will correct me if I'm wrong) the oldest living Doctor Who actors now are: 1. Arnold Yarrow (100) - Bellal in Death to the Daleks (1974) 2. Donald Pelmear (96) - Professor Rubeish in The Time Warrior (1973/74) 3. Laurie Webb (96) - Mr Ollis in The Three Doctors (1973) 4. David Graham (96) - Professor Kerensky in City of Death (1979), plus other roles including voices of the Daleks (and Parker in Thunderbirds) 5. William Russell (95) - Ian Chesterton, companion of the First Doctor 6. Morris Perry (95) - Captain Dent in Colony in Space (1971) 7. Ysanne Churchman (95) - Alpha Centuari in The Curse of Peladon (1972) and The Monster of Peladon (1974) 8. Andre Maranne (94) - Benoit in The Moonbase (1967) 9. Gregg Palmer (94?) - Cyberman in The Tenth Planet (1966) 9. David de Keyser (93) - Voice of the Atraxi in The Eleventh Hour (2010) 10. June Brown (93) - Lady Eleanor in The Time Warrior (1973/74) 11. Geoffrey Palmer (93) - Masters in Doctor Who and the Silurians (1970), Administrator in The Mutants and Captain Hardaker in Voyage of the Damned (2007) 12. Graham Rigby (93) - Larry in The Dalek Invasion of Earth (1964) 13. Derek Smith (93) - Doorman in Human Nature (2007) 14. Wendy Danvers (93?) - Amazonia in The Curse of Peladon (1972) - status unknown 15. Frank Windsor (92) - Ranulf in The King's Demons (1983) and Inspector Mackenzie in Ghost Light (1989) 16. Peter Cellier (92) - Andrews in Time-Flight (1982) 17. Michael Craig (92) - Commodore Travers in The Trial of a Time Lord: Terror of the Vervoids (1986) 18. Mark Eden (92) - Marco Polo in Marco Polo (1964) 19. Georgine Anderson (92) - May in Gridlock (2007) 20. Bernard Cribbins (91) - Wilfrid Mott, companion of the Tenth Doctor (plus other Who roles) 21. Frank Mills (91) - Radio Telescope Director in Terror of the Autons (1971) 22. John Nettleton (91) - Reverend Ernest Matthews in Ghost Light (1989) 23. Damaris Hayman (91) - Miss Hawthorne in The Daemons (1971) 24. Thelma Barlow (91) - Lady Thaw in The Lazarus Experiment (2007) 25. Steve Machin (91) - Various parts in Old Who 26. Patricia Prior (91) - Mr Ollis in The Three Doctors (1973) 27. John Woodvine (90) - The Marshal in The Armageddon Factor (1979) 28. Colin Jeavons (90) - Damon in The Underwater Menace (1967) 29. Clifford Rose (90) - Rorvik in Warriors' Gate (1981) 30. Roy Evans (90) - Trantis in The Daleks' Master Plan (1965/66), Bert in The Green Death (1973) and Miner in The Monster of Peladon (1974) 31. Henry Woolf (90) - The Collector in The Sun Makers (1977) 32. Shirley Cooklin (90) - Kaftan in Tomb of the Cybermen (1968) 33. Gary Watson (90) - Arthur Terrall in The Evil of the Daleks (1967) 34. David Garfield (90) - Neeva in The Face of Evil (1977) and Von Weich in The War Games (1969) 35. Lilias Walker (90) - Sister Lamont in Terror of the Zygons (1975) 36. John Rolfe (90) - Soldier in The War Machines (1966) Sam in The Moonbase (1967) and Fell in The Green Death (1973) 37. Alan Curtis (89) - Major Green in The War Machines (1966) I think that's all the living Doctor Who actors who are over the age of 90. Hope this is useful. Special mention for Barbara Clegg (94) - writer of Enlightenment (1983) EDITED to include @msc's more *complete* research...

Oh look how delighted he is. So delighted he forgot to mention he voted against this bill. Another reason, if it were needed, that I think this government are cunts.

Well, the failing to be Zen part matches. Even the if the trying qualification appears something of a fallacy.

Well if Rover can come up with 10 of them msc will be along later to complete the list

So dumb filterless rambling counts as serious political discussion? Imagine being so mentally fucked that you think that having a orange man in office who says stupid shit is worse than going to war with Iraq over lies by GWB and his administration... Maybe let your balls drop first and then have a political discussion?

Kane Tanaka is now the 6th oldest verified person ever.

2003 "Sunrise" - Simply Red (John Johnson died 2017) "Somewhere I Belong" - Linkin Park "Make Luv" - Room 5 ft Oliver Cheatham (died November 29, 2013) "Madame Helga" - Stereophonics "Broken Bones" - Love Inc (Brad Daymond died August 3, 2018) "21 Questions" - 50 Cent ft Nate Dogg "Maybe Tomorrow" - Stereophonics "One More Chance" - Michael Jackson "You Make Me Feel Brand New" - Simply Red

A few musical ones: Marc Almond, off of Soft Cell, 63 Jim Kerr, off of Simple Minds, 61 Courtney Love, off of not killing her husband, 56

Glee actress Naya Rivera feared dead in a possible drowning

No matter how racist Biden is or isn't,Trump has been spending all his energy the last few weeks engaging in culture war battles about statues,BLM protestors,SJW's,Ilhan Omar,the media etc. He possibly could win(though seems unlikely how badly he is handiling the Pandemic) if he run's against Biden and increases the dudes negative rating.However running against a bunch of strawmen(women) who aren't Joe Biden isn't gonna hurt his opponent come November.

Dear Iain/Coffin Lodger With your track record in predictions, please do not predict any doom for Donald Trump until 2025 at the earliest. Yours, with love The Rest of the World

Heck, everyone else has a project on the forum these days, why not me? We're gonna have a lot of free time over the coming weeks.... Starting off with 2000. "U Know What's Up" - Donell Jones featuring Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes (died April 25, 2002) "Girl on TV" - Lyte Funkie Ones (Rich Cronin died September 8, 2010. Devin Lima died November 21, 2018) "Mama Told Me Not to Come" - Tom Jones and Stereophonics (Stuart Cable died June 7, 2010) "Never Be the Same Again" - Melanie C featuring Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes "Smooth" - Santana featuring Rob Thomas ( Raul Rekow died November 2, 2015) "New Beginning/Bright Eyes" - Stephen Gately (died October 10, 2009) "If I Told You That" - Whitney Houston and George Michael (Houston died February 11, 2012. Michael died December 25, 2016) "Try Again"- Aaliyah (died August 25, 2001) "Maria Maria" - Santana featuring The Product G&B "Time to Burn" - Storm (Mark Spoon died January 11, 2006) "Body Groove" - Architechs featuring Nana (Ashley Akabah died February 2, 2020) "Could I Have This Kiss Forever" - Whitney Houston and Enrique Iglesias Possible additional name: "One More Time" by Daft Punk featured an uncredit Romanthony on vocals. He died May 7, 2013)

As a Glee stan, majority of who I talk to agree that this cast is cursed.

Confirmed by yer BBC Scotland man here on Facebook. Damn, part of the Glasgow furniture.

That'll be the last time you ever do a list Rover!

XXXtentacion (mentioned by The Engineer earlier in thread) must be unusual in that he qualifies for the Scrabble deficit with both his stage name and his real name Jahseh Onfroy. Died when he was 20. Apologies for going off topic. Great thread Spade.

A letter from Trade Secretary Liz Truss to Rishi Sunak and Michael Gove, explaining reasons why the UK’s post-EU borders won’t be ready for 2021, has been leaked. She says: We risk smuggling as ports won’t be ready NI protocols won’t be ready either We risk legal challenges from WTO and huge reputational damage (no shit) So we can expect Cummings to sack her within the next 24 hours.

Your maths are shit Sir Creep - 48 out of 3000 is 1.6% Your death rate as a proportion of the population is running at 198.3 per million. Germany (one of many examples I could have used) with a population of nearly 84 million has a death rate of 109 per million (so will have many massive cities with lower death stats than Lafayette parish). Keep taking the Tabasco...….

Here’s the problem. In a normal election year, I think Trump would win easily, and in fact I was one of the ones who really didn’t want Biden to be the democratic nominee. I thought there was a good chance he’d bungle it (he still might bungle in the debates mind, but that’s besides the point). The strategy that Biden is doing is actually brilliant, ie hide most of the time and only come out when they need him. This way, people get the best impression of him while he’s not in the public eye. Look, I think most of us think Biden is pretty bad, but that doesn’t change the fact his strategy during a pandemic is a good one. One other thing about Biden, he’s not as hated as Hillary was. With a better approval rating than her, I think more people would vote for him. Here’s another issue though, Trump’s time in office was a disaster. The thing that made him win in 2016 was the fact that he was economically populist, but when you look at his record he was perhaps the most corporate, establishment politician of all time, just with a more unfiltered way than the typical politician (I actually think that would’ve been one of the things that helps him in 2016 because he doesn’t seem fake). He also, as you probably know, bungled the COVID-19 response. When 125 thousands lives are lost from something that honestly could’ve been more preventable, the people would turn on you. Let’s say for arguments sake though that the American people overlooked Trump’s very corporate record and his awful COVID response. The thing he’s more focused on this time during campaigning is the culture war. In his Mount Rushmore speech, he gave one of the most American Exceptionalist speeches of all time. Basically, he’s saying that America is already great. That is a direct repudiation of his 2016 slogan, ie Make America Great Again. Even with the bad record, the change in his campaigning is definitely hurting his case in November. And honestly, I don’t know if the populism would’ve worked this time around anyways. The American people I think just want someone who can soothe them during a time of crisis. Look, Biden is a massive favorite at this point whether you like it or not. And this is coming from someone who’s considering voting for a Third Party candidate. Things can certainly change, yes, but if Trump continues to bungle the COVID response and campaign on how America is already great, it’s just gonna be a recipe for disaster. One thing I do agree on though, anyone who looks at George W Bush fondly because of Trump needs to look themselves in the mirror. They’re both awful. Don’t normalize a war criminal, okay?

Jesus you completely looked over everything I've discussed. He is clearly a racist and he is clearly a dope that likes groping young children and women - but I guess thats your idea of 'manna from heaven'... And yes I'm sure you'd love GWB back, tell that to the families of the soldiers who died in Iraq. Just look into Joe Biden from any non-left wing source and you'll see what I am talking about...

You sick bastard. After of course.

2001 "Buck Rogers" - Feeder (Jon Lee died January 7, 2002) "Things I've Seen" - Spooks (Water Water died September 20, 2003) "The Next Episode" - Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Dogg, Kurupt and Nate Dogg (died March 15, 2011) "Chase the Sun" - Planet Funk (Sergio Della Monica died February 17, 2018) "Shit on You" - D12 (Proof died April 11, 2006) "Mr Writer" - Stereophonics "Butterfly" - Crazy Town (DJ AM died August 28, 2009) "Have a Nice Day" - Stereophonics "Purple Pills" - D12 "Flawless" - The Ones (Nashom Wooden died March 23, 2020) "Little L" - Jamiroquai (Toby Smith died April 11, 2017) "You Rock My World" - Michael Jackson (died June 25, 2009) "In the End" - Linkin Park (Chester Bennington died July 20, 2017) "ResuRection" - PPK (Roman Korzhov died February 2016) "Handbags and Gladrags" - Stereophonics