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Here's my personal thoughts on what the list should be like. Misses will be inevitable but I think a list like this would atleast reach 14 or something hits: Keep (25) 1. Jimmy Carter (hospice) 2. Pete Murray (frail years ago) 3. Cleo Laine (very frail) 4. Sonny Rollins (very old, terminally ill with pulmonary fibrosis for longer than the expectancy for someone much younger) 5. Imelda Marcos (diabetes, serious heart problems, ministrokes, pneumonia hospitalisation this year) 6. Ted Turner ("late stages" of lewy body dementia for a while now) 7. Roberta Flack (ALS, other ailments) 8. Esther Rantzen (terminal lung cancer) 9. Norman Tebbit (said to be very ailing, heart problems etc.) 10. Tom Brokaw (multiple myeloma for more than a decade, recently in 24/7 care) 11. Gene Hackman (looked death warmed up this year, massive heart problems) 12. Joanne Woodward (perennial dementia sufferer) 13. Stanley Baxter (no public appearances in years, care home, said he has memory loss back around 2020) 14. Nigel Starmer-Smith (bruce willis type dementia, bedbound for years, overdue) 15. Noam Chomsky (paralyzed from a massive stroke) 16. Dennis Skinner (very ill for very long - heart operations, cancer, alleged mild dementia) 17. James Whale (longtime cancer sufferer allegedly now living on experimental meds, give him one last chance) 18. Jean-Marie Le Pen (heart failure, pulmonary oedema, stroke) 19. Willie Nelson (emphysema, other chronic health conditions) 20. Denis Law (mixed dementia for years) 21. Sly Stone (advanced COPD and no news in ages) 22. Linda Nolan (boring perennial cancer sufferer allegedly now living on experimental meds #2. Give her one last chance) 23. Buzz Aldrin (former heavy drinker, a couple of health scares in the past, on oxygen in his latest appearance) 24. Sandy Gall (looked unrecognizable here over three years ago and as far as I know has not made appearances since) 25. Dick Van Dyke (looks healthy but reading between the lines sounds like he's suffering from some severe illness. Anyways, turning 100 with a history of lung collapses, peripheral neuropathy, pneumonia bouts, mild emphysema etc) Drop (20) going down from the worst drop 1. Vanessa Redgrave (emphysema for a long time + heart attack. Stableish for years now but you never know) 2. Hans Blix (TBE, weeks in ICU some years ago, housebound) 3. Clint Eastwood (increasingly frail, some health issues in the past, lost girlfriend recently) 4. Tom Baker (weight loss, health issues but seems to have been doing great for a year or two now) 5. Brigitte Bardot (serious respiratory problems) 6. Daniel Barenboim (does not seem as ill as we thought?) 7. Dick Cheney (enormous heart problems, see this - seems to have outlived all odds and the transplant won't last forever, but too stable now) 8. Alan Greenspan (boring, just very old) 9. Robert Wagner (old, COPD, but doesn't seem ill enough yet) 10. Prunella Scales (perennial dementia sufferer who is taking decades to die) 11. Mel Brooks (very old but seems healthy and active) 12. Josef Fritzl (too stable for my liking) 13. Pope Francis (recurring health problems, but has seemed better this year) 14. Louis Farrakhan (too stable for my liking) 15. Joe Bugner (severe dementia, but young and no reports of great decline) 16. Desmond Morris (seemingly healthy nonagenarian) 17. Patricia Routledge (seemingly healthy nonagenarian and younger than most of the other healthy nonagenarians on the list) 18. Robert Duvall (yet another boringly healthy nonagenarian) 19. Raul Castro (looks, sounds amazing despite previous cancer rumors) 20. Julie Walters (past cancer) Return (5): 1. Yoko Ono (lewy body dementia for ages, other ailments) 2. Liza Minnelli (ailing for a very long time now) 3. David Attenborough (very old, more quiet these days and should stay on the list until his death) 4. Douglas Hurd (very quiet for a long time, stroke in the past and said to suffer from other health problems) 5. Mike Ditka (strokes and heart attacks, has been in 24/7 care recently) Add (20): 1. Michael Tilson Thomas (glioblastoma, has outlived the expectations) 2. Mahathir Mohamad (enormous heart problems, very old, regular hospitalisations) 3. Ruth Buzzi (dementia for ages, strokes) 4. Tippi Hedren (advanced dementia) 5. Sam Nujoma (tons of hospitalisations) 6. Ian Smith (Ian Smith Cancer) 7. Joan Plowright (Very frail/ill for years according to forum members) 8. Eva Marie Saint (very old, forum favourite) 9. Antonia Fraser (last rites almost two years ago, kidney failure and a plethora of ailments) 10. Sophie Kinsella (glioblastoma #2) 11. Peter Yarrow (Longtime cancer sufferer in hospice) 12. Sidney Cooke (how is he still alive?) 13. Tom Lehrer (forum favourite, very frail for years) 14. Geoffrey Boycott (cancer + heart problems, ICU hospitalisation earlier) 15. Jean Marsh (very frail, past health history includes a stroke and a heart attack) 16. Rupert Murdoch (tons of health problems) 17. King Salman of Saudi Arabia (dementia, tons of health problems) 18. David Irving (serious health problems, 24/7 care) 19. Jose Mujica (cancer, kidney problems, vasculitis and other health issues) 20. Michael Bolton (see earlier posts)

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Well it's over an hour into Christmas day UK time now, so I'd like to wish forum users a Merry Christmas and I hope all of you have an excellent day whether you engage in the seasonal festivities or not.

Maria Farrugia dead at 112.

Annie Lennox is 70.

A hypothetical 2025 list (one week before the real one): 1. Jimmy Carter (101, Ex US President, 1) 2. Noam Chomsky (97, Intellectual, 9) 3. Dick Van Dyke (100, Actor, 2) 4. Eva Marie Saint (101, Actress, NEW) 5. Jean-Marie Le Pen (97, French Neo-Nazi, 24) 6. Esther Rantzen (85, TV Presenter, 35) 7. Alan Greenspan (99, Economist, 4) 8. Cleo Laine (98, Jazz Singer, 7) 9. Pete Murray (100, British radio presenter, 3) 10. Stanley Baxter (99, Comedian, 16) 11. Mel Brooks (99, Director/Comedian, 11) 12. Joanne Woodward (95, Actress, 17) 13. Tippi Hedren (95, Actress, NEW) 14. Sandy Gall (98, TV news reporter, 8) 15. Nigel Starmer-Smith (81, Rugby Commentator, 13) 16. Sidney Cooke (98, Pedophile, NEW) 17. Ian Smith (87, Harold Bishop, NEW) 18. David Attenborough (99, Broadcaster and Natural Historian, -) 19. Roberta Flack (88, Singer, 36) 20. Tom Lehrer (97, Musical comedian, NEW) 21. Rosemary Harris (98, Actress, NEW) 22. Frankie Valli (91, Four Season, NEW) 23. Yoko Ono (92, Mrs Lennon, -) 24. Buzz Aldrin (95, Astronaut, 45) 25. Douglas Hurd (95, Politician, -) 26. James Watson (97, Casual scientific racist, NEW) 27. Tom Brokaw (85, News Anchor, 28) 28. Joan Plowright (96, Actress, NEW) 29. Norman Tebbit (94, Politician, 32) 30. Hans Blix (97, Weapons Inspector, 26) 31. Linda Nolan (66, Nolan Sister, 29) 32. Julie Goodyear (83, Bet Lynch, NEW) 33. Dennis Skinner (93, Politician, 12) 34. Gene Hackman (95, Actor, 23) 35. Len Deighton (96, Author, NEW) 36. James Whale (74, Broadcaster, 14) 37. Peter Yarrow (87, Folk Singer, NEW) 38. Ted Turner (87, Media Mogul, 44) 39. Prunella Scales (93, Sybil Fawlty, 38) 40. Antonia Fraser (93, Author, NEW) 41. Brian Wilson (83, Beach Boy, -) 42. Sonny Rollins (95, Jazz Musician, 46) 43. Mike Ditka (86, US Football Coach, -) 44. George Soros (95, Conspiracy magnet, NEW) 45. Johnnie Walker (80, Radio presenter, NEW) 46. Rex Williams (92, Snooker player, -) 47. David Lynch (79, Filmmaker, NEW) 48. Ken Livingstone (80, Politician, NEW) 49. Edmund White (85, Author, -) 50. Ronnie Wood (78, Rolling Stone, -)

Marilyn Monroe, July 1962. She died on 4th August.

Dear Forumers, Here are my 2025 suggestions: Imelda Marcos 1929 Isabel Peron 1931 Tippi Hedren 1930 Kim Novak 1933 Eva Marie Saint 1924 Joan Plowright 1929 Leslie Caron 1931 Frank Gehry 1929 Rupert Murdoch 1931 Claire Bloom 1931 Sophia Loren 1934 Warm hug to all.

Merry Christmas, you fucking cunts.

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. Congratulations to those who managed to avoid a Whamming this year.

George Michael died on this day 8 years ago, aged 53. - Michael's real name was Georgios Panayiotou- his father was a Greek immigrant to the UK. - In 1981, Michael would form Wham with Andrew Ridgeley. 1984 was the band's definitive year, with songs such as "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go", "Everything She Wants", and "Careless Whisper" topping music charts all around the world: - Michael would go solo beginning in 1987, with his singles "I Want Your Sex" and (of course) "Faith" also being mega-hits. Later on in his career, Michael would become more political, with 2002's "Shoot the Dog" mocking the Blair administration: - Michael would come out as gay in 1998 following his arrest for engaging in lewd behavior in a public bathroom. He would make the song "Outside" to lampoon the incident: The police officer who arrested him would attempt to sue Michael for $10 million due to slander, but this case would be dismissed by the court. Michael's other legal troubles included his addiction to marijuana- still illegal to be smoked recreationally in the UK. - Michael died from an enlarged heart on Christmas Day in 2016. This is a case of life imitating art because... Congratulations to those who managed to win Whamageddon this year.

Are we seriously going to bump this thread for every holiday?

I doubt it was cause you're Canadian. Marie Howe evidently had a keen sense of detecting irritating spammers from miles away.

No, Patrick Gasienica and Maxim Gustik both died in 2023.

Thank you for running this again, here's my mess of a team. Once again with the Wizard of New Zealand, but this time with a third Ono too. Jimmy Carter 1. Geoffrey Boycott 2. P. J. Proby 3. Jiro Ono 4. Takashi Ono 5. Yoko Ono 6. The Wizard of New Zealand 7. Jake "The Snake" Roberts 8. John Kirkpatrick 9. Bereket Mengisteab 10. Joseph Kony Subs Zhu Rongji Tony Snell (poet)

I'm going to post this here as not sure where else to post it but just wanted to wish all my fellow dead poolers a very Happy Christmas and best wishes for 2025.

The olympian

Plane crash in Kazakhstan. 67 on board. Initial reports say 25 survivors. Azerbaijan Airlines plane crashes in Kazakhstan - BBC News

1.Jose Mujica 2.Black Bart 3.Johnny Walker 4.Beatrice Picard 5.Maria Galiana 6.George Chuvalo 7.Peter McParland 8.Naina Yeltsina 9.Mira Spivak 10.Valerie Andre subs Dick Duff Buzz Aldrin

1. Noam Chomsky 2. Joanne Woodward 3. Vernon L. Smith 4. Imelda Marcos 5. Jane Morgan 6. Mahathir Mohamad 7. Stanley Baxter 8. Raul Castro 9. Sandy Gall 10. Sidney Cooke Subs: Agnes Keleti Alan Greenspan

Yes, in fact, this is a photo of the care facility she's in.

It looked a decent list on paper and got off to a cracking start, they then just Manchester Cityed it this year.

I've been allowed to see the first draft of the 2025 list. Some sensible picks ruined by the wacky choice of Jimmy Carter.