Gooseberry Crumble 5,344 Posted December 10, 2021 I was convinced he would lead the tory party into the next general election until this week. The atmospherics and dynamics have shifted dramatically and he has used up an awful lot of political capital and goodwill. I thought the vaccine bounce and the benefit of the doubt that the voters were prepared to give the government for having to deal with such a big and unusual event as the covid pandemic made him unassailable for the foreseeable. As MacMillian said events dear boy events. A week is a long time in politics. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,472 Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: You cannot compare the resignations of Wilson, Thatcher et al with Johnson. I am trying to remember a bigger cunt than him who has occupied No10 in my lifetime and I can't. I doubt if there has been a bigger one in a 100 years. Anybody who currently serves under him is tarnished and the Tory backbenchers know it. Unlike the Ex PM's you mentioned, Johnson will leave in disgrace, prematurely and with a reputation slightly worse that a sewer rat. It's no coincidence that Truss , a decent constituency MP thrust into the limelight, has been embellishing her C.V with photo ops galore and well publicised meetings as she travels the globe. Sunak has been conspicuous by his absence, there have been plenty of rumours that he doesn't see eye to eye with Johnson. I reckon those two will be angling for a leadership challenge but the mere fact that they still work under that faecal crust will, probably, rule them out. TBF, just when you want a great leader, no fucking party can give you one. It's pretty fucking grim. Aye, that was my point. I know, unusually succinct for me but its Friday and I'm looking forward to a whisky! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,344 Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: You cannot compare the resignations of Wilson, Thatcher et al with Johnson. I am trying to remember a bigger cunt than him who has occupied No10 in my lifetime and I can't. I doubt if there has been a bigger one in a 100 years. Anybody who currently serves under him is tarnished and the Tory backbenchers know it. Unlike the Ex PM's you mentioned, Johnson will leave in disgrace, prematurely and with a reputation slightly worse that a sewer rat. It's no coincidence that Truss , a decent constituency MP thrust into the limelight, has been embellishing her C.V with photo ops galore and well publicised meetings as she travels the globe. Sunak has been conspicuous by his absence, there have been plenty of rumours that he doesn't see eye to eye with Johnson. I reckon those two will be angling for a leadership challenge but the mere fact that they still work under that faecal crust will, probably, rule them out. TBF, just when you want a great leader, no fucking party can give you one. It's pretty fucking grim. Tom Tugendhat? Jeremy Hunt? Neither in government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, msc said: Aye, that was my point. I know, unusually succinct for me but its Friday and I'm looking forward to a whisky! Nah, it's me. I'm losing the plot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Gooseberry Crumble said: Tom Tugendhat? Jeremy Hunt? Neither in government. Every time I see the name Tugendhat I see Tugendcock. Dunno why. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said: Tom Tugendhat? Jeremy Hunt? Neither in government. Hunt still too unpopular with the public. Tugendhat needs a cabinet role before he has a chance of being PM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 859 Posted December 10, 2021 Hot thread? This guy must be on the brink of death! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny 283 Posted December 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: You cannot compare the resignations of Wilson, Thatcher et al with Johnson. I am trying to remember a bigger cunt than him who has occupied No10 in my lifetime and I can't. I doubt if there has been a bigger one in a 100 years. Anybody who currently serves under him is tarnished and the Tory backbenchers know it. Unlike the Ex PM's you mentioned, Johnson will leave in disgrace, prematurely and with a reputation slightly worse that a sewer rat. It's no coincidence that Truss , a decent constituency MP thrust into the limelight, has been embellishing her C.V with photo ops galore and well publicised meetings as she travels the globe. Sunak has been conspicuous by his absence, there have been plenty of rumours that he doesn't see eye to eye with Johnson. I reckon those two will be angling for a leadership challenge but the mere fact that they still work under that faecal crust will, probably, rule them out. TBF, just when you want a great leader, no fucking party can give you one. It's pretty fucking grim. IiRC Liz Truss had an adulterous affair Mark Field (MP for Westminster) when she was a Parliamentary candidate in Yorkshire. I agree that all the party leaders are grim. If you pay MPs peanuts, don't be surprised if you get..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny 283 Posted December 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Hunt still too unpopular with the public. Tugendhat needs a cabinet role before he has a chance of being PM. Tugendhat is a narcissistic and bitter Europhile nonentity - the Tory version of Macron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,327 Posted December 10, 2021 His political position is clearly untenable.He is probably too narcissistic to have realised it yet. In deadpooling terms his premiership has stage 4 Pancreatic cancer.Could be this week this year next year or the year after but the fact remains his premiership is on borrowed time. People won't forget or ever let this go.Either his party will do a Thatcher on him or video or photo footage will emerge proving he is a liar.Either way there is no way out for him.The fact he is alleged to have been at one of the three parties being investigated out of a possible 7 and he is standing by his communications director who was not only at a party but gave out awards. The remainers hate him the left hate him many of his backbenchers hate him the press have turned on him largely and quite a few of his voters if polls are to be believed have turned against him.He is royally fucked. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,327 Posted December 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Banana said: Hot thread? This guy must be on the brink of death! Nope just his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,327 Posted December 10, 2021 This is shaping up to be the British equivalent of Watergate.At least Nixon went out for attempting to bug his opponents not having a Christmas party Correction several Xmas parties. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,046 Posted December 10, 2021 A Very British Coo. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,344 Posted December 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Hunt still too unpopular with the public. Tugendhat needs a cabinet role before he has a chance of being PM. I'm not so sure. Blair never held a cabinet posibefore being elected Prime minister with a huge majority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted December 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said: I'm not so sure. Blair never held a cabinet posibefore being elected Prime minister with a huge majority. He was in the shadow cabinet which is next nearest thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,344 Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: He was in the shadow cabinet which is next nearest thing. I still wouldn't rule it out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dead Wait 1,139 Posted December 10, 2021 It’s a good job Carrie didn’t give birth at number 10 as Boris would have no idea about it and deny it happened! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,327 Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, msc said: I was just thinking how rare it was to see this forums many diverse political wings nearly all united in disdain and dislike for one guy. A Christmas miracle! I voted Tory in 2019 and I now am full of disdain and dislike of the fat oaf. When seeminy the whole country is united in visceral hatred of you there isn't really anywhere left to go apart from choosing too spend more time with your family. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,327 Posted December 10, 2021 And Blowjo is spoilt for choice over which family to spend more time with 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,646 Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sean said: And Blowjo is spoilt for choice over which family to spend more time with it's a no-brainer as - from what I gathered from Sunday newspaper reports earlier this year - there are kids from his second marriage who barely speak to him and his ex-missus (a serious lawyer) did a proper number on him in court by way of snagging a chunk of the hefty post prime ministerial earnings he hopes to trouser (assuming he keep his kecks on, that is). Is it just me or have the press missed a sizeable issue re that party a year back. It was wall-to-wall with the underpaid aids and the like, right? The ones who don't earn that much and are reliant on public transport to get to and from work and likely travel some considerable distance to and from work - i.e. the people most likely to turn the event into a super-spreader if anyone there had been infectious were the core of the party crowd. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted December 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: it's a no-brainer as - from what I gathered from Sunday newspaper reports earlier this year - there are kids from his second marriage who barely speak to him and his ex-missus (a serious lawyer) did a proper number on him in court by way of snagging a chunk of the hefty post prime ministerial earnings he hopes to trouser (assuming he keep his kecks on, that is). Is it just me or have the press missed a sizeable issue re that party a year back. It was wall-to-wall with the underpaid aids and the like, right? The ones who don't earn that much and are reliant on public transport to get to and from work and likely travel some considerable distance to and from work - i.e. the people most likely to turn the event into a super-spreader if anyone there had been infectious were the core of the party crowd. Wait till Carrie realises she married Bozo & turns on him, it'll be a bloodbath. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,472 Posted December 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Sean said: I voted Tory in 2019 and I now am full of disdain and dislike of the fat oaf. When seeminy the whole country is united in visceral hatred of you there isn't really anywhere left to go apart from choosing too spend more time with your family. Aye, and there's still winter for him to get even more popular. Theresa May was fecked for nearly a year and they couldn't shift her. Anyhow, I can confirm that whisky is great, and Boris Johnson is still a cunt. As you were. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted December 11, 2021 I'm not convinced his premiership is in imminent danger of being terminal. I wish I was. But the past 5 years have taught me the British people have a remarkable ability to look the other way when faced with truths they don't find palatable and Boris Johnson has more political lives than the Cheshire Cat. All the whispers I've seen are that the bulk of the parliamentary party believe its the No. 10 Machine that's the problem, not Boris. Expect another bonfire of the vanities shortly, a more contrite Boris in the New Year (he might even comb his hair) and an attempt to regain the initiative. Things that could derail that are: shock by-election defeats, concrete proof (that is comprehensible to Joe Public) that he lied (there's already proof he lied about the refurbishment loan, but nobody cares/understands!) or the Covid situation significantly deteriorating, with a third significant wave of hospitalisations and deaths and a fourth lockdown. All of those are possible, perhaps even likely in some cases, but I'm not writing his obituary yet - I've made that mistake too many times before by this stage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted December 11, 2021 A poll yesterday shows the majority of the Tory Party Members want Boris to stay. If they turn on him it would be much nearer to being over for him but until then he will probably cling on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites