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It seems like only yesterday that the 2022 Joker's pool came to a conclusion, and here we are launching the 2023 edition. The principle is simple - just pick names from the list of 2023 DDP Jokers. The practice is anything but simple. There is a long complicated system of bonuses - half of which you get to see beforehand, the remainder remain hidden throughout the year, until they are revealed at the end. Once the deadline for submission has passed, I will then ignore the pool for most of the year, until eventually I am so bored at home that I will reluctantly give you an update. And finally when everyone has completely given up on the pool, I will declare a winner which people will be dubious about, but no-one will argue with because counting up the scores makes their brain hurt!

 

I am told no-one every reads the rules, so I am going to put these important points up here - please take heed of them

 

1. TEAMS MUST BE SUBMITTED TO ME BY PM ONLY.

ANY TEAM WHICH IS POSTED ON THIS THREAD BEFORE THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS WILL BE DISQUALIFIED, EVEN IF THEY HAVE ALSO SENT A PM. 

(This is because there are bonuses for unique picks)

 

2. TEAMS HAVE BEEN REDUCED THIS YEAR TO 30 PICKS,

If you submit more than 30 names, your team will be the first 30 picks on the list

 

3. YOUR TEAM BECOMES "LIVE" AT MIDNIGHT ON THE DAY YOU SUBMIT IT. IF A PICK DIES BEFORE THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION, THEY WILL STILL SCORE.

In fact if you do bother to read the rules, you will see that they can score a hefty bonus- so best to submit early. 

 

 

 

 

POOL RULES

 

 TEAM 

  • Choose 30 names from the masterlist below. All of these names were selected as "Jokers" in the 2023 Derby Dead Pool.
  • Please also include 2-3 subs (In case any picks are found to have died before you submitted).
  • Points are scored when one of you picks dies and receives a QO for DDP
  • Nominate five of these names to be your wildcards. They will score double points on everything including bonuses.
  • Entries must be sent by PM to me. No other method of entry is acceptable. Any team posted on this thread before the deadline for submission will be disqualified, even if they have also been sent by PM
  • Your team becomes live at midnight on the day you submit it. An pick who dies between then and the deadline for entry submission will still score points. Picks who are found to have died before midnight on the date of submission will be replaced by your first sub, even if they were believed to be alive at the time of submission.
  • Entries close at 23.59 on 8th February 2023. That's just over a week, so better get to it sharpish.

 

POINT-SCORING

  • +2 base point for a 'hit'

     

    PERMANENT BONUSES

    1. + 3 pts if hit is a unique pick in DDP

    2. +2 pts if hit is a Drop 40 pick in DDP

         -2 pts for every pick who is in the Drop 40 but survives the year. -5 pts if they were a Wildcard

    3. +2 pts if hit is a deathlist Alumnus (i.e. They have appeared in a Deathlist from 1987-2023)

      If a pick is a DL Alumnus but survives the year, -1pt for every time they have appeared on the DL

    4. +5 pts if pick is a solo pick in this pool. + 3 pts if they are only selected by two teams. +1 if they are only selected by three teams.

    5. +5 if they die on their birthday

    6. + 2 if they die on the first or last day of the month

    7. If a pick dies between a team being submitted and the deadline for submissions +1 point for every day or part of a day remaining before the submission deadline.

    8. +5 if they die on 23rd February, 28th April, or 13th November (Host's Birthday Bonus)

    9. +5 if they die on St David’s Day (1st March), St Patrick’s Day (17th March) or St Andrew's Day (30th November), because celebrating a Saint’s day is an excellent way to mark a nations history, traditions and achievements,

     -5 if they die on St George’s Day (23rd April), because anyone who celebrates St George’s Day is a xenophobic racist.

    10. +3 pts for an unnatural death

    11. +5 if a player gets 2 hits in one day

        +10 if a player gets 3 or more hits in one day

    12. +3 if they are the first hit in the game. +3 if they are the last hit in the game.

    13. +1 for ending the longest gap between hits. (The first gap to be broken is between the 1st and second hits, so no bonus will be awarded to the 2nd hit of the game. + 1 for the pick which ends a longer gap , +1 extra each time this happens i.e. first person to break the gap +1,  person to break the new longest gap +2, etc ).

    14. +1 for every person they guess in order from the first until they break the combo (+1 cumulatively each time this happens)
    [i.e. if #7 is their first hit they get 2 base points, if #19 is their 2nd hit they get 3 points (2+1) , if #30 is their 3rd hit they get 4 points (2+2), but if #17 is their 4th hit then they're no longer eligible for this bonus]

    15. -2 for the most hits in the pool.

     

 

  • There is also an extensive set of hidden bonuses. These are top-secret. So secret that even I do not know them. Seriously! -  I'm still waiting for Clorox to actually send me the rules :lol:.

  • In total there are 15 hidden bonuses, which may be applied before, during or after the game is running. Some of these may be "negative bonuses" (others may prefer to call them penalties!) 

  • The hidden bonuses will be revealed at the end, or possibly before then if it suits me to do so.

  • In addition, there is +1 for hits at certain spots on your list. Which spots they are, however, are hidden until they are scored.

 

The games concludes at midnight on December 31st 2023. The results will be announced some time before 30th June 2025. Or possibly later. 

Any disputes/queries about bonuses, whether by me or another player, will be settled by our non-resident adjudicator @Clorox Bleachman. Some, all, or none of these decisions will be fair.

 

In case of a tie at the end of the game, the following tie-breakers will be used:

1. Player with most hits

2. If equal, player with most wildcard hits

3. If still equal, player with most points scored by wildcard hits

4. If still equal, both players will be disqualified, and the title awarded to the third placed finisher!

 

 

Everyone confused? Excellent! 

 

Good luck to all!

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LIST OF JOKERS

6ix9ine

Adrian Sutton

Al Jaffee

Al Pacino

Alain Delon

Alan Alda

Alan Bennett

Alan Ford

Alex Delvecchio

Alice Munro

Andras Biro

Andy Taylor

Anne Baker

Art Garfunkel

Aston Barrett

Bam Margera

Barbara Young

Barry Humphries

Barry McGuire

Bashar Al-Assad

Ben Hillman

Benjamin B. Ferencz

Bernie Ecclestone

Berry Gordy

Beverley Craven

Bill Hayden

Billie Eilish

Billy Connolly

Billy Currie

Bob Barker

Brian Blessed

Buzz Aldrin

Caitlyn Jenner

Carol Heiss

Chris Spedding

Christopher Lloyd

Cleo Laine

Cliff Richard

Clint Eastwood

Clive Barker

Clive Wearing

Colin Jeavons

Concha Velasco

Daniella Westbrook

David Hockney

David Letterman

David Winnick

Dawn Fraser

Demi Lovato

Dianne Feinstein

Dick Van Dyke

Dionne Warwick

Donald Trump

Dr Evadne Hinge (George Logan)

Edie McClurg

Eileen Derbyshire

Elizabeth Kelly

Emperor Akihito of Japan

Eric Burdon

Eric Idle

Esteban Volkov

Farokh Engineer

Federico Bahamontes

Francis Ford Coppola

Francis Graham-Smith

Francoise Hardy

Frank Borman

Frank Field

Frank Field (meteorologist)

Frank Gehry

Frankie Miller

Franz Beckenbauer

Gardy Granass

Gary Glitter

Gene Chandler

George Alagiah

Ghislaine Maxwell

Glynis Johns

Gordon McQueen

Gordon Pinsent

Graeme Garden

Harry Belafonte

Henry Dickerson

Henry Kissinger

Henry Winkler

Ian Black (Swimmer)

Imelda Marcos

Iris Apfel

Jack Burke Jr.

Jacques Delors

Jake "The Snake" Roberts

James Bolam

James Earl Jones

James Rolfe

James Whale

Jan Svankmajer

Janey Godley

Janis Paige

Jayanta Mahapatra

Jean-Pierre Leaud

Jerry MacDonald

Jimmy Carter

Jiro Ono

Joanne Woodward

Joe Biden

Joe Don Baker

John Cannan

John Castle

John Cleese

John Farnham

John Hemingway

John Morris of Aberavon

Johnny Ruffo

Jonathan Aitken

Jonnie Irwin

Joyce Randolph

Jules Feiffer

June Bland

June Kenton

June Spencer

Justin Bieber

K T Tunstall

Karl Bushby

Kate Keltie

Kathleen Willey

Keith Baxter

Ken McNaught

King Juan Carlos Of Spain

Kodak Black

Lavell Crawford

Lawrence Gordon Clark

Lee Trevino

Lil' Wayne

Linda Nolan

Liza Minnelli

Luis Aparicio

Lynne Reid Banks

M. Emmet Walsh

Macaulay Culkin

Maggie Smith

Mark Rowley

Martha Wash

Merlin Griffiths

Michael Crawford

Michael Dunlop

Michael Jayston

Michael Parkinson

Michael Rosen

Michael Tilson Thomas

Micky Dolenz

Mikheil Saakashvili

Milan Kundera

Mohammed Al-Fayed

Mutulu Shakur

Nancy Olson

Neil Harvey

Nigel Starmer-Smith

Noam Chomsky

Norman Lear

Ozzy Osbourne

Pat Leahy

Patricia Routledge

Paul Hogan

Pete Davidson

Peter Ackroyd

Peter Marshall

Peter Oosterhuis

Phil Collins

Pone

Posie Parker

Prince Andrew

Prince Charles

Prince Harry

Princess Bajrakitiyabha

Princess Mikasa

Princess Yolande of Austria

Randy Jackson

Ray Anthony

Ray Reardon

Rhod Gilbert

Richard Franklin

Richard Hadlee

Richard O'Sullivan

Rob Burrow

Robert Wagner

Roberta Flack

Rolf Harris

Ron Baynham

Roy Ayers

Roy Clarke

Ruby Nash Garnett

Rupert de Larrinaga

Rupert Murdoch

Russell Grant

Russell M. Nelson

Ruth Buzzi

Ryuichi Sakamoto

Sam Bankman-Fried

Sandi Toksvig

Shane MacGowan

Shannen Doherty

Sheila Hancock

Shelley Fabares

Shelly Desai

Sherrill Milnes

Shirley Bassey

Sidney Cooke

Simon Cowell (Wildlife)

Sly Stone

Sonny Rollins

Sophia Loren

Stanley Baxter

Steffi Graf

Stephen Darby

Stephen Fry

Steve McMichael

Stevie Nicks

Ted Turner

Teri Garr

Thelma Barlow

Thelma Houston

Tim Bilton

Tim Lobinger

Timothy West

Tom Baker

Tom Oliver

Tomiichi Murayama

Tony Bennett

Tori black

Vanessa Redgrave

Varavara Rao

Violeta Chamorro

Vladimir Putin

Warren Buffett

Wattie Buchan

Willie Nelson

Woody Allen

Ysanne Churchman

 

PREMATURE DEATHS

Constantine II of Greece

David Crosby

Frank McGarvey

Gianluca Vialli

Gina Lollobrigida

Ronald Blythe

Shimon Baadani

Soeur Andre

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LIST OF TEAMS

 

AN FEAR BEAG

1.      Jayanta Mahapatra                        

2.      Adrian Sutton WILDCARD                 

3.      Roberta Flack                   

4.      Ruth Buzzi                         

5.      Nigel Starmer-Smith WILDCARD        

6.      Princess Bajrakitiyabha                 

7.      Bob Barker                        

8.      Michael Tilson Thomas                 

9.      Andy Taylor                      

10.   Joanne Woodward                        

11.   James Whale                    

12.   Jake "The Snake" Roberts                           

13.   Sonny Rollins                    

14.   Rob Burrow WILDCARD                      

15.   Rolf Harris WILDCARD                      

16.   Mutulu Shakur                 

17.   Steve McMichael WILDCARD              

18.   Francoise Hardy                              

19.   Frank Field                        

20.   Tim Lobinger                    

21.   Harry Belafonte               

22.   Jules Feiffer                      

23.   George Alagiah                

24.   Colin Jeavons                   

25.   Joyce Randolph                

26.   Jonnie Irwin                      

27.   Franz Beckenbauer                        

28.   Esteban Volkov                

29.   Federico Bahamontes                   

30.   Eric Idle                 

 

 BIBLIOGRYPHON

1.  Peter Ackroyd WILDCARD

2.  George Aligiah

3.   Bob Barker

4.   Thelma Barlow

5.   Lynne Reid Banks

6.    Franz Beckenbauer

7.    Rob Burrow

8.    Jimmy Carter

9.    Ysanne Churchman WILDCARD

10.   Jacques Delors

11.   Eileen Derbyshire

12.   Frank Field (Politician)

13.   Roberta Flack

14.   Richard Franklin WILDCARD

15.   Rolf Harris

16.   Dame Evadne Hinge/George Logan

17.   Al Jaffee

18.   Elizabeth Kelly

19.   Henry Kissinger

20.   Milan Kundera WILDCARD

21.   Cleo Laine WILDCARD

22.   Norman Lear

23.   John Morris of Aberavon

24.   Ray Reardon

25.   Vanessa Redgrave

26.   Nigel Starmer-Smith

27.   June Spencer

28.   Andy Taylor

29.   James Whale

30.   Joanne Woodward          

         

 

BOOK

1. Andy Taylor

2. Anne Baker

3. Bob Barker

4. Elizabeth Kelly WILDCARD

5. Frank Field

6. George Alagiah

7. Glynis Johns

8. Harry Belafonte

9. Henry Kissinger

10. Jacques Delors

11. James Whale WILDCARD

12. Janis Paige

13. Jimmy Carter

14. Joanne Woodward

15. Jonnie Irwin

16. June Spencer

17. Milan Kundera

18. Mutulu Shakur

19. Nigel Starmer-Smith

20. Princess Bajrakitiyabha

21. Randy Jackson

22. Ray Anthony

23. Rhod Gilbert

24. Rob Burrow

25. Rolf Harris WILDCARD

26. Ryuichi Sakamoto

27. Simon Cowell

28. Steve McMichael WILDCARD

29. Tim Lobinger WILDCARD

30. Tony Bennett

 

BUFFALO PHIL

1 Adrian Sutton

2 Al Jaffee

3 Anne Baker

4 Benjamin B Ferencz

5 Elizabeth Kelly

6 Francoise Hardy

7 Frank Field

8 George Alagiah WILDCARD

9 James Whale

10 Janey Godley

11 Jimmy Carter

12 Joanne Woodward

13 John Cannan

14 John Hemingway

15 Johnny Ruffo

16 Jonnie Irwin WILDCARD

17 June Spencer

18 Michael Tilson Thomas

19 Mutulu Shakur WILDCARD

20 Nigel Starmer-Smith

21 Rhod Gilbert

22 Rob Burrow

23 Roberta Flack

24 Rolf Harris WILDCARD

25 Ruth Buzzi

26 Ryuichi Sakamoto

27 Simon Cowell (Wildlife) WILDCARD

28 Steve McMichael

29 Ted Turner

30 Violeta Chamorro

 

CAPTAIN CHORIZO

1 Frank Field WILDCARD

2 George Alagiah             

3 Glynis Johns   

4 Harry Belafonte           

5 Jack Burke Jr. 

6 James Whale  

7 Jimmy Carter 

8 Joanne Woodward      

9 Johnny Ruffo  WILDCARD

10 Jonnie Irwin 

11 Lynne Reid Banks      

12 M. Emmet Walsh       

13 Milan Kundera            

14 Mutulu Shakur           

15 Nigel Starmer-Smith  

16 Patricia Routledge     

17 Ray Anthony

18 Rhod Gilbert

19 Rob Burrow   WILDCARD

20 Roberta Flack             

21 Rolf Harris    

22 Ryuichi Sakamoto     

23 Sidney Cooke             

24 Simon Cowell (Wildlife) WILDCARD

25 Sonny Rollins              

26 Stanley Baxter            

27 Steve McMichael WILDCARD

28 Tim Lobinger              

29 Violeta Chamorro      

30 Willie Nelson              

             

CAPTAIN HEMLOCK

1 Andy Taylor

2 Bob Barker

3 Edie McClurg

4 Esteban Volkov WILDCARD

5 Frank Field (UK Politician) WILDCARD

6 Frank Field (US Meteorologist) WILDCARD

7 Franz Beckenbauer

8 George Alagiah WILDCARD

9 Harry Belafonte

10 Henry Kissinger

11 Jake "The Snake" Roberts

12 James Whale

13 Jimmy Carter

14 Joanne Woodward

15 Joyce Randolph

16 Linda Nolan

17 Liza Minnelli

18 Noam Chomsky

19 Norman Lear

20 Ozzy Osbourne

21 Phil Collins

22 Robert Wagner

23 Roberta Flack

24 Rolf Harris

25 Rupert Murdoch

26 Ruth Buzzi

27 Ryuichi Sakamoto

28 Shirley Bassey

29 Sonny Rollins

30 Steve McMichael WILDCARD

 

FUNERALOPOLIS

1 Bob Barker     

2 Francoise Hardy           

3 Frank Field  WILDCARD

4 George Alagiah   WILDCARD

5 Henry Dickerson          

6 Henry Kissinger            

7 Jacques Delors             

8 James Whale  

9 Janey Godley  

10 Jimmy Carter              

11 John Cannan

12 Jonnie Irwin  WILDCARD

13 Kate Keltie    

14 Merlin Griffiths          

15 Milan Kundera            

16 Mutulu Shakur           

17 Nigel Starmer-Smith  

18 Princess Bajrakithyaba            

19 Randy Jackson            

20 Rhod Gilbert

21 Rob Burrow  

22 Roberta Flack             

23 Rolf Harris    

24 Ryuichi Sakamoto     

25 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)  WILDCARD

26 Sonny Rollins              

27 Steve McMichael  WILDCARD

28 Tim Bilton     

29 Tim Lobinger             

30 Violeta Chamorro   

 

 

GCREPTILE

1 Ysanne Churchman      

2 Violeta Chamorro        

3 Tim Lobinger WILDCARD

4 Steve McMichael         

5 Sonny Rollins 

6 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)             

7 Ryuichi Sakamoto WILDCARD

8 Rolf Harris WILDCARD

9 Roberta Flack 

10 Rob Burrow  

11 Nigel Starmer-Smith  

12 Mutulu Shakur           

13 Milan Kundera            

14 Michael Tilson Thomas           

15 Michael Parkinson     

16 Jonnie Irwin 

17 Johnny Ruffo              

18 Jayanta Mahapatra   

19 James Whale              

20 Henry Kissinger          

21 Henry Dickerson        

22 Gordon McQueen     

23 Glynis Johns 

24 George Alagiah  WILDCARD

25 Franz Beckenbauer   

26 Frank Field   

27 Federico Bahamontes  WILDCARD

28 Concha Velasco         

29 Benjamin B. Ferencz 

30 Alice Munro 

 

GOOSEBERRY CRUMBLE

1 Cleo Laine       

2 Carol Heiss  WILDCARD

3 Chris Spedding             

4 Roberta Flack 

5 Paul Hogan     

6 Robert Wagner            

7 Nancy Olson   WILDCARD

8 Richard O'Sullivan       

9 Sidney Cooke 

10 Tom Oliver   

11 Willie Nelson              

12 June Spencer              

13 James Whale              

14 Harry Belafonte         

15 Elizabeth Kelly           

16 David Winnick            

17 Clint Eastwood           

18 June Bland   

19 Johnny Ruffo              

20 Aston Barrett              WILDCARD

21 Martha Wash              WILDCARD

22 Lavell Crawford          WILDCARD

23 John Castle  

24 Colin Jeavons             

25 Roy Ayers     

26 Merlin Griffiths          

27 Francis Graham Smith            

28 Jimmy Carter              

29 Gene Chandler           

30 Shirley Bassey      

 

 

GREAT UNCLE BULGARIA

1 Bam Margera 

2 Benjamin Ferencz        

3 Bob Barker     WILDCARD

4 Dame Evadne Hinge    

5 Francoise Hardy           

6 Frank Field      WILDCARD

7 Franz Beckenbauer      

8 Glynis Johns   

9 Gordon McQueen        

10 Ian Black       

11 Iris Apfel       

12 Harry Belafonte         

13 Jan Svankmajer          

14 Jimmy Carter              

15 Joanne Woodward    

16 Jonnie Irwin 

17 Kate Keltie      WILDCARD

18 Mohammed  Al Fayed             

19 Nigel Starmer-Smith     WILDCARD

20 Michael Tilson Thomas           

21 Princess Yolande of Austria   

22 Ray Reardon

23 Richard Hadlee           

24 Roberta Flack             

25 Rolf Harris     WILDCARD

26 Ruth Buzzi    

27 Ryuichi Sakamoto     

28 Sherrill Milnes            

29 Tom Baker    

30 Ysanne Churchman        

 

LIZ LEMON

1 M. Emmet Walsh         

2 Princess Bajrakitiyabha             

3 Dianne Feinstein          

4 June Spencer  

5 Rolf Harris  WILDCARD

6 Sonny Rollins 

7 Jonnie Irwin  WILDCARD

8 Janey Godley  

9 James Whale  

10 Rob Burrow  

11 Steve McMichael  WILDCARD

12 Johnny Ruffo              

13 Glynis Johns 

14 Teri Garr       

15 Kate Keltie    

16 Frank Field  WILDCARD

17 Bob Barker   

18 Roberta Flack             

19 Franz Beckenbauer   

20 Carol Heiss   

21 George Alagiah          

22 Michael Tilson Thomas           

23 Cleo Laine    

24 Ryuichi Sakamoto     

25 Joanne Woodward  WILDCARD

26 Shelley Fabares          

27 Ruth Buzzi    

28 Nigel Starmer-Smith  

29 Tony Bennett              

30 Francoise Hardy   

 

  

MARINISIA

1 Alice Munro   

2 Andy Taylor    

3 Benjamin B. Ferencz   

4 Bob Barker     

5 Françoise Hardy           

6 Frank Field      

7 George Alagiah             

8 Glynis Johns   

9 Jacques Delors             

10 James Whale     WILDCARD

11 Janey Godley              

12 Jimmy Carter              

13 John Cannan

14 Johnny Ruffo     WILDCARD

15 Jonnie Irwin  WILDCARD

16 Kate Keltie    

17 Linda Nolan 

18 M. Emmet Walsh       

19 Nigel Starmer-Smith  

20 Princess Bajrakitiyabha           

21 Rhod Gilbert

22 Rob Burrow  

23 Rolf Harris     WILDCARD

24 Ruth Buzzi    

25 Shannen Doherty      

26 Sheila Hancock          

27 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)           

28 Steve McMichael       

29 Tomiichi Murayama   WILDCARD

30 Violeta Chamorro      

 

 

MSC

1.    Al Jaffee     

2.    Anne Baker

3.    Bob Barker 

4.    Frank Field   WILDCARD

5.    George Alagiah        

6.    Glynis Johns              

7.    Henry Dickerson      

8.    James Whale     WILDCARD

9.    Joanne Woodward  

10.  Johnny Ruffo            

11.  Jonnie Irwin              

12.  June Bland 

13.  June Spencer     WILDCARD

14.  Kate Keltie  

15.  Linda Nolan              

16.  Michael Tilson Thomas         

17.  Milan Kundera          

18.  Mutulu Shakur         

19.  Nigel Starmer-Smith      WILDCARD

20.  Norman Lear            

21.  Rhod Gilbert             

22.  Richard Franklin       

23.  Rob Burrow              

24.  Roberta Flack           

25.  Rolf Harris  

26.  Ruth Buzzi  

27.  Ryuichi Sakamoto   

28.  Simon Cowell (Wildlife)     WILDCARD

29.  Sonny Rollins            

30.  Steve McMichael  

 

 

MRS PEDRO

1 Al Pacino      WILDCARD

2 Billy Connolly  WILDCARD

3 Buzz Aldrin      

4 Clint Eastwood             

5 Dick Van Dyke

6 Dionne Warwick          

7 Donald Trump               

8 Gary Glitter    

9 Henry Kissinger            

10 John Cleese  

11 Linda Nolan 

12 Liza Minelli   WILDCARD

13 Maggie Smith     WILDCARD

14 Michael Parkinson     

15 Mohammed Al-Fayed              

16 Ozzy Osbourne           

17 Phil Collins   

18 Richard O'Sullivan     

19 Rolf Harris    

20 Rupert Murdoch       

21 Shane MacGowan     

22 Shannen Doherty      

23 Sheila Hancock          

24 Shirley Bassey            

25 Sophia Loren              

26 Thelma Barlow          

27 Tom Baker    

28 Tony Bennett             

29 Willie Nelson              

30 Woody Allen WILDCARD  

 

 

PEDRO67

1 Berry Gordy    

2 Bob Barker      WILDCARD

3 Cleo Laine       

4 Dr Evadne Hinge (George Logan)          

5 George Alagiah             

6 Imelda Marcos             

7 Jake "The Snake" Roberts         

8 James Bolam  

9 Tim Bilton       

10 Violetta Chamorro    

11 James Whale     WILDCARD

12 Jimmy Carter              

13 Johnny Ruffo              

14 Jonnie Irwin  WILDCARD

15 Joyce Randolph          

16 Lee Trevino  

17 Linda Nolan 

18 Luis Aparicia

19 Emperor Akihito of Japan       

20 Francoise Hardy         

21 Frank Field    WILDCARD

22 Michael Parkinson     

23 Neil Harvey  

24 Ray Reardon

25 Rhod Gilbert

26 Sheila Hancock     WILDCARD

27 Sonny Rollins              

28 Thelma Barlow           

29 Aston Barrett              

30 Barry Humphries

 

PERHAPS

1 Al Jaffee          

2 Anne Baker    

3 Benjamin B. Ferencz   

4 Bob Barker     

5 Elizabeth Kelly              

6 Federico Bahamontes 

7 Francis Graham-Smith

8 Frank Borman

9 Frank Field     WILDCARD

10 George Alagiah          

11 Glynis Johns 

12 Gordon McQueen    WILDCARD

13 Henry Kissinger          

14 Jack Burke Jr.              

15 James Whale              

16 Joanne Woodward    

17 Jonnie Irwin 

18 Joyce Randolph          

19 June Spencer              

20 Nigel Starmer-Smith   WILDCARD

21 Peter Marshall            

22 Peter Oosterhuis        

23 Princess Bajrakitiyabha     WILDCARD

24 Princess Mikasa         

25 Rob Burrow  

26 Roberta Flack             

27 Rolf Harris    

28 Ryuichi Sakamoto     

29 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)           

30 Steve McMichael        WILDCARD

 

 

THE OLD CREM

1.     Andy Taylor             

2.     Bob Barker

3.     Daniella Westbrook              

4.     Elizabeth Kelly         

5.     Frank Field                WILDCARD

6.     George Alagiah       

7.     Glynis Johns             

8.     Gordon McQueen  

9.     Henry Kissinger       

10.  Imelda Marcos         

11.  James Whale             WILDCARD

12.  Janey Godley            

13.  Jimmy Carter            

14.  Joanne Woodward 

15.  Johnny Ruffo             WILDCARD

16.  Jonnie Irwin               WILDCARD

17.  Kate Keltie  

18.  Linda Nolan              

19.  Nigel Starmer-Smith              

20.  Phil Collins 

21.  Randy Jackson         

22.  Rob Burrow              

23.  Roberta Flack            WILDCARD

24.  Rolf Harris  

25.  Ryuichi Sakamoto   

26.  Shane MacGowan   

27.  Shannen Doherty    

28.  Simon Cowell (Wildlife)        

29.  Vanessa Redgrave   

30.  Violeta Chamorro   

 

THE OLD LADY

1 Andy Taylor     WILDCARD

2 Dionne Warwick          

3 Frank Field      

4 George Alagiah             

5 Glynis Johns   

6 Imelda Marcos             

7 Jacques Delors             

8 James Whale  

9 Janey Godley  

10 Jimmy Carter              

11 Joanne Woodward    

12 Jonnie Irwin 

13 Kate Keltie    

14 Linda Nolan 

15 Michael Parkinson     

16 Milan Kundera            

17 Nigel Starmer-Smith   WILDCARD

18 Princess Bajrakitiyabha           

19 Rhod Gilbert

20 Rob Burrow  

21 Roberta Flack             

22 Rolf Harris     WILDCARD

23 Ryuichi Sakamoto     

24 Shane MacGowan     

25 Shannen Doherty      

26 Sonny Rollins              

27 Steve McMichael        WILDCARD

28 Tim Bilton     

29 Tim Lobinger     WILDCARD

30 Violeta Chamorro 

 

 

THEREWILLBEDEATHS7

1 Andy Taylor    

2 Barry Humphries          

3 Benjamin B. Ferencz   

4 Bob Barker     

5 Clint Eastwood             

6 Dianne Feinstein          

7 Frank Borman

8 Frank Field       WILDCARD

9 Frank Field (meteorologist)      

10 Frank Gehry 

11 Franz Beckenbauer   

12 George Alagiah          

13 Glynis Johns 

14 Harry Belafonte         

15 Henry Kissinger          

16 Iris Apfel       

17 Jacques Delors           

18 James Earl Jones        

19 James Whale     WILDCARD

20 Jimmy Carter              

21 Milan Kundera            

22 Phil Collins   

23 Princess Mikasa         

24 Roberta Flack             

25 Rolf Harris     WILDCARD

26 Ryuichi Sakamoto      WILDCARD

27 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)           

28 Steve McMichael        WILDCARD

29 Tony Bennett              

30 Violeta Chamorro    

 

 

THE UNKNOWN MAN

1. Kate Keltie     WILDCARD

2. James Whale WILDCARD

3. Ryuichi Sakamoto       WILDCARD

4. Jonnie Irwin   WILDCARD

5. Andy Taylor   WILDCARD

6. Roberta Flack

7. Randy Jackson             

8. Joanne Woodward     

9. Bob Barker    

10. Imelda Marcos          

11. Linda Nolan

12. Dick Van Dyke           

13. Simon Cowell (Wildlife)         

14. Ted Turner  

15. Violeta Chamorro     

16. Tori Black    

17. Shannen Doherty     

18. George Alagiah         

19. Frank Field  

20. Harry Belafonte        

21. Glynis Johns

22. Francoise Hardy        

23. Alan Alda     

24. Henry Kissinger         

25. James Earl Jones      

26. Milan Kundera           

27. Rolf Harris   

28. Phil Collins  

29. Janis Paige  

30. Tony Bennett

 

TOAST

1. George Alagiah           

2. Mohammed Al-Fayed

3. Bob Barker    

4. Stanley Baxter             

5. Franz Beckenbauer      WILDCARD

6. Harry Belafonte           WILDCARD

7. Tony Bennett

8. Rob Burrow   

9. Roy Clarke     

10. Jacques Delors          

11. Roberta Flack            

12. Francoise Hardy        

13. Rolf Harris   

14. David Hockney          

15. Jonnie Irwin WILDCARD

16. Colin Jeavons            

17. Glynis Johns

18. Kate Keltie   

19. Milan Kundera           

20. Edie McClurg             

21. Steve McMichael      

22. Liza Minnelli               

23. Lynne Reid Banks     

24. Sonny Rollins             

25. Johnny Ruffo             

26. Ryuichi Sakamoto    

27. Nigel Starmer-Smith

28. Andy Taylor

29. James Whale              WILDCARD

30. Joanne Woodward    WILDCARD

 

 

TORVA MESSOR

1 James Whale  

2 Benjamin B Ferencz     WILDCARD

3 Frank Gehry    

4 Jules Feiffer    

5 Nancy Olson   

6 Ryuichi Sakamoto        

7 Princess Bayrakhitiyabha       WILDCARD

8 Princess Yolande of Austria      

9 Robert Wagner            

10 Jack Burke Jr

11 Frank Field    WILDCARD

12 Esteban Volkov          

13 Noam Chomsky          

14 Steve McMichael       

15 Al Jaffee       

16 Joyce Randolph          

17 Kate Keltie    

18 Cleo Laine    

19 Ysanne Churchman   

20 Princess Mikasa         

21 Ray Anthony

22 George Alagiah          

23 John Hemingway       

24 Jonnie Irwin 

25 James Earl Jones        

26 Ron Baynham             

27 Russell M Nelson        WILDCARD

28 Simon Cowell (wildlife)       WILDCARD

29 Jiro Ono        

30 Janis Paige   

 

 

TQR

1 Alan Bennett   WILDCARD

2 Andy Taylor    

3 Bob Barker     

4 Chris Spedding    WILDCARD

5 Colin Jeavons 

6 Eileen Derbyshire         

7 Frank Field      WILDCARD

8 Frank Field (meteorologist)     

9 George Alagiah             

10 Glynis Johns 

11 Henry Kissinger          

12 James Whale              

13 Jimmy Carter              

14 Joanne Woodward    

15 Johnny Ruffo              

16 Jonnie Irwin 

17 Kate Keltie    

18 Liza Minnelli 

19 Mohammed Al-Fayed              

20 Nigel Starmer-Smith  

21 Norman Lear              

22 Roberta Flack             

23 Rolf Harris     WILDCARD

24 Ryuichi Sakamoto     

25 Shannen Doherty      

26 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)     WILDCARD

27 Steve McMichael       

28 Tim Bilton     

29 Tomiichi Murayama  

30 Tony Bennett      

 

  

TRACY

1 Al Jaffee          

2 Benjamin B. Ferencz   

3 Cleo Laine       

4 Edie McClurg 

5 Frank Field      

6 Franz Beckenbauer      

7 Imelda Marcos             

8 Iris Apfel          

9 Jack Burke Jr. 

10 Jacques Delors           

11 James Earl Jones        

12 James Whale              

13 Janis Paige   

14 Joanne Woodward    

15 Joe Don Baker            

16 John Hemingway       

17 Jonnie Irwin 

18 Joyce Randolph          

19 Michael Tilson Thomas           

20 Milan Kundera       WILDCARD

21 Nigel Starmer-Smith    WILDCARD

22 Peter Marshall            

23 Princess Mikasa         

24 Ray Anthony

25 Rhod Gilbert

26 Rob Burrow  

27 Roy Clarke    

28 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)      WILDCARD

29 Steve McMichael        WILDCARD

30 Tony Bennett        WILDCARD      

 

 

WANNAMAKER

1 Sonny Rollins 

2 Tim Lobinger  

3 Ryuichi Sakamoto         WILDCARD

4 Rob Burrow    

5 Adrian Sutton

6 Johnny Ruffo 

7 Michael Tilson Thomas       WILDCARD

8 Jimmy Carter 

9 Mutulu Shakur              

10 Milan Kundera            

11 Rolf Harris    

12 Andy Taylor 

13 Frank Field   

14 Simon Cowell (Wildlife)        WILDCARD

15 Steve McMichael       

16 Anne Baker  

17 Ted Turner   

18 James Whale       WILDCARD

19 Princess Bajrakitiyabha           

20 Henry Kissinger          

21 Joanne Woodward    

22 Roberta Flack             

23 Bob Barker   

24 Jonnie Irwin WILDCARD

25 Shane MacGowan     

26 John Hemingway       

27 Gordon McQueen     

28 Rhod Gilbert

29 Nigel Starmer-Smith  

30 George Alagiah          

 

    

  

 

 

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The Jokers have been posted- its time to get picking.

 

Please remember - 30 picks only, and they must be sent by PM.

 

1 week to get teams in, but they go early and your team is in, its extra points!

 

Best of luck

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3 hours ago, Captain Hemlock said:

You are unable to receive messages.

 

Fixed. Thanks

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Trying this for the first time. Lots of names I don’t know that I just deleted when whittling down the list so I will most definitely be shite.

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Jusy over 48 hours to go until the deadline, and so far we have 18 teams in the game. These are the entries so far:

 

AN FEAR BEAG

BIBLIOGRYPHON

BOOK

CAPTAIN HEMLOCK

FUNERALOPOLIS

GCREPTILE

GOOSEBERRY CRUMBLE

LIZLEMON

MARINISIA

MSC

PEDRO67

PERHAPS

THE OLD LADY

THE UNKNOWN MAN

TOAST

TORVA MESSOR

TQR

WANNAMAKER

 

A few new faces, but more will always be welcome. A lot of players from last year still to submit a team, including the reigning champion @The Old Crem. We are also missing:

@Annami

@BuffaloPhil

@CaptainChorizo

@Doulton

@Great Uncle Bulgaria

@Hell

@Joey Russ

@Salmon Mousse

@YoungWillz

 

So better get a move on, and get the team in on time. No late entries accepted. Just please don't forget to PM rather than post it up here. 

 

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Will be in tomorrow evening, had a busy weekend. I've started whittling the list down but only got as far as the Hs so far :lol:

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We are up to 21 teams now, still a little short of last years total.

 

There is still time to get a team in, folks, but you had better get moving on it. The deadline is at 23.59 tonight.

 

Simplest thing in the world to pick a team, so why not give it a go. The names are all there, you just have to pick 30 of them and PM them to me. You can pick the names you have heard off. Or stick 30 pins into the list (that doesn't work so well with a laptop). Doesn't have to be in any order. Doesn't have to be numbered. Just has to be 30 names in something resembling a list.

 

And I won't shout at anyone - promise!

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One final reminder - the pool closes in just over 2 + 1/2 hours time.  Plenty of time to have a quick perusal of the list and to chuck a team together. The names are all there - just pick 30 of them.

 

We are up to 23 players now - 1 short on last years total. If anyone wants to stick in a last minute team,  PM me up until midnight tonight. 

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All of the teams have been posted up above, so we are now officially in business. In total we have 25 players, an increase of 1 from last year. We had 24 up until the last minute, until @Pedro67asked for his missus to be entered in the pool, and I was happy to oblige.

 

Of the 238 potential picks, 155 were selected on at least 1 team, leaving 83 unwanted names, with Alain Delon, Joe Biden, Timothy West, Warren Buffett and Vladamir Putin among the notable names that no-one selected. Next year I might introduce an auction of unwanted picks- I might as well make the game more complicated than it already is!

 

44 of the picks were unique, with 4 players accounting for 28 of them. Mrs Pedro led the way with 9 unique picks, surprising leading @Gooseberry Crumble with 8 uniques, @Pedro67with 6, and @Great Uncle Bulgariawith 5. It wasn't a successful strategy for Gooseberry last year - will Mrs Pedro fare any better this year?

 

James Whale was the most popular pick, being selected on all bar 2 teams.  Frank Field was on all bar 3 teams, with Rolf Harris and George Alagiah being the next most popular selections, on all bar 4 teams. Obviously the change to the scoring system has not deterred players from selecting the big names, but could the penalties for surviving Drop 40 and Deathlist picks come back to haunt them at the end of the game?

 

The known bonuses are listed up above. There have been a couple of minor alterations to add some extra dates that qualify for a bonus, but they are now fixed for the remainder of the game.

 

 @Clorox Bleachmanhas selected 15 hidden bonuses which I now have, and will be adding to scores as the hits come in. Three of them have already come into effect, as they relate to the teams submitted- I will post up a scoreboard later showing the bonuses applied.

Most of the bonuses will be revealed as they are hit. Some will not be revealed until the game has concluded. I can tell you that there are no bonuses or penalties this year for naming the bonuses, so feel free to comment on them as they arise.

 

There is one hidden bonus which I will reveal now, as it is important that players are now aware of it: 

14.     +2 for the first player who posts a picture of their hit receiving a prize. +1 for every subsequent player who posts a picture of them receiving a different prize. (the player must have had a hit with that pick).

If all players who picked them posts a picture, -2 for the last player to post (or for the only person not to post a picture if all players bar one do it)

 

I will try to be a little more regular with the updates this year, but I m not making any promises!

 

Best of luck to everyone

 

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19 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said:

There is one hidden bonus which I will reveal now, as it is important that players are now aware of it: 

14.     +2 for the first player who posts a picture of their hit receiving a prize. +1 for every subsequent player who posts a picture of them receiving a different prize. (the player must have had a hit with that pick).

If all players who picked them posts a picture, -2 for the last player to post (or for the only person not to post a picture if all players bar one do it)

 

 

 

 

You mean something like this?

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Just now, Book said:

 

You mean something like this?

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I mean exactly something like that! 2 sweet bonus points for you.

 

(To make life a little easier on me, could you tell me what medal he is receiving, so I can ensure that no-one else posts a picture of the same prize?)

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Ex-Stabhochspringer Tim Lobinger verstirbt nach langem Krebsleiden - Sport  - derStandard.at › Sport

I deliberately didn't post the first picture on this one, as it would have given me an unfair advantage, knowing the rule in advance. Its fair game from here on though!

 

Edit: Gold European Indoor Championships 1998

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6 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said:

I mean exactly something like that! 2 sweet bonus points for you.

 

(To make life a little easier on me, could you tell me what medal he is receiving, so I can ensure that no-one else posts a picture of the same prize?)

 

Ah, no problem: Tim Lobinger received the silver medal of the European Athletics Championships in Gothenburg 2006.

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Just now, Book said:

 

Ah, no problem: Tim Lobinger reveiced the silver medal 2006 of the European Athletics Championships in Gothenburg.

 

Thanks Book - just to be clear, it is not necessary to name the prize in order to get the points. But it does make life a touch easier for me if you do. 

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57 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said:

There is one hidden bonus which I will reveal now, as it is important that players are now aware of it: 

14.     +2 for the first player who posts a picture of their hit receiving a prize. +1 for every subsequent player who posts a picture of them receiving a different prize. (the player must have had a hit with that pick).

If all players who picked them posts a picture, -2 for the last player to post (or for the only person not to post a picture if all players bar one do it)

 

I will try to be a little more regular with the updates this year, but I m not making any promises!

 

Best of luck to everyone

 

 

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Gold medal in the 2003 World Indoors Championship

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Ugh, that's a terrible rule (I guess I never stop...), hopefully, there's someone slower than me. There is at least one, so..

Gold medallist Alex Averbukh of Israel poses with joint silver medallists Tim Lobinger of Germany and Romain Mesnil of France during the medal...

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22 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Ugh, that's a terrible rule (I guess I never stop...), hopefully, there's someone slower than me. There is at least one, so..

Gold medallist Alex Averbukh of Israel poses with joint silver medallists Tim Lobinger of Germany and Romain Mesnil of France during the medal...

That looks suspiciously like the same medal that Book already posted.

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Just now, gcreptile said:

Book says his picture is from 1998.

 

 No he doesnt

 

3 hours ago, Book said:

 

Ah, no problem: Tim Lobinger received the silver medal of the European Athletics Championships in Gothenburg 2006.

 

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6 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

scrap that, have to look...

 

What about this, something from Munich - must then be 2002.

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/leichtathletik-em-silber-und-bronze-fuer-boergeling-und-lobinger-171632.html

Nur einer kann sich wirklich freuen: Lars Börgeling und Tim Lobinger

 

That's better :D

 

That is indeed Lobinger with his bronze medal at the European Championships in 2002.

 

 (You are not last in with a picture)

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Before we start getting onto the first hit of the pool, let's deal with the first of the hidden bonuses. As is usually the case in this pool, some of the bonuses apply before the game has properly, and this year is no exception. The first three hidden "bonuses" were as follows:

 

1.     +1 if player numbered their picks when submitting

2.     -2 if player did not thank the host for managing the pool when submitting the team

3.     +4 team with most women on it

 

@LizLemonhad the most women on the team with 14, thus gaining the +4 bonus. Unfortunately she also forgot her manners, and thus lost 2 of the points immediately.

 

The first scoreboard of the year (before the Tim Lobinger hit is scored) is as follows:

 

LIZ LEMON                                        +2           0 Hits

BOOK                                                 +1           0 Hits

BIBLIOGRYPHON                             +1           0 Hits

AN FEAR BEAG                                 +1           0 Hits

MSC                                                    +1           0 Hits

PEDRO67                                           +1           0 Hits

THE OLD CREM                                +1           0 Hits

TOAST                                                +1           0 Hits

WANNAMAKER                                +1           0 Hits

BUFFALO PHIL                                  0             0 Hits

GCREPTILE                                        0             0 Hits

GOOSEBERRY CRUMBLE                0             0 Hits

GREAT UNCLE BULGARIA               0             0 Hits

MARINISIA                                         0             0 Hits

MRS PEDRO                                       0             0 Hits

THE OLD LADY                                  0             0 Hits

THEREWILLBEDEATHS7                 0             0 Hits

TORVA MESSOR                               0             0 Hits

THE UNKNOWN MAN                      -1           0 Hits

CAPTAIN CHORIZO                          -2           0 Hits

CAPTAIN HEMLOCK                        -2           0 Hits

FUNERALOPOLIS                             -2           0 Hits

PERHAPS                                          -2           0 Hits

TQR                                                    -2           0 Hits

TRACY                                            -2           0 Hits

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