Ulitzer95 12,576 Posted January 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, msc said: Aye, but if, say David Beckham or someone like that had a Death by Helicopter we'd probably see a similar reaction in the UK. And I can imagine pretty much wall to wall coverage for days when Gazza's liver gives up. Both has beens. I disagree with your sentiment though. I can’t think of any sports star in the UK at current who is idolised on remotely the same level as some of the big American names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,129 Posted January 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Both has beens. I disagree with your sentiment though. I can’t think of any sports star in the UK at current who is idolised on remotely the same level as some of the big American names. What does that have to do with it? Beckham and Gazza are both still very newsworthy, and the fact they have retired from playing doesn't erase their achievements. I gather Kobe Bryant had also retired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,515 Posted January 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: I am not really supportive of starting threads for people who have just died. Yes it is worth noting but in an appropriate thread already. The threads should be there for those people we are watching. If there is a convincing conspiracy theory around this then I withdraw my objection Trying to think who else has had threads after death. Gary Speed, Avicii, David Gest... is that it? The first two were worthy in terms of "fuck, really?" out of nowhere-ness. The third... maybe not as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,220 Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Spade_Cooley said: Trying to think who else has had threads after death. Gary Speed, Avicii, David Gest... is that it? The first two were worthy in terms of "fuck, really?" out of nowhere-ness. The third... maybe not as much. I think Robin Williams too iirc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,436 Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Spade_Cooley said: Trying to think who else has had threads after death. Gary Speed, Avicii, David Gest... is that it? The first two were worthy in terms of "fuck, really?" out of nowhere-ness. The third... maybe not as much. Alan Rickman. But the common thing here is shock death, liked by a fair number of the forum, I guess, and generate shitloads of chatter. Even if vast chunks of it is "who are ya?". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,436 Posted January 27, 2020 Wogan too. Basically the answer is 2016 by the looks of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 905 Posted January 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Toast said: What does that have to do with it? Beckham and Gazza are both still very newsworthy, and the fact they have retired from playing doesn't erase their achievements. I gather Kobe Bryant had also retired. Gazza will have been a long time coming mind, the general reaction would likely be “so he finally did it” or “thought he was already dead!” Suspect many UK agencies already have draft obit packages ready to roll in the event... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth in Asia 1,086 Posted January 27, 2020 I don't know much about basketball, but I thought he was behind Jordan, Shaq, LeBron James, Wade and maybe some others. Clearly he did well at business after retiring. Possibly Beckham, Botham, Jimmy White, David Lloyd, Kriss Akabusi or Bill Beaumont could be our equivalents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,129 Posted January 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, JR976evil said: Gazza will have been a long time coming mind, the general reaction would likely be “so he finally did it” or “thought he was already dead!” Suspect many UK agencies already have draft obit packages ready to roll in the event... That's true, but if he died in an accident it would still be a shock death. The fact that he's a "has-been" wouldn't make a difference, and that was the point I was making. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,581 Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Toast said: That's true, but if he died in an accident it would still be a shock death. The fact that he's a "has-been" wouldn't make a difference, and that was the point I was making. Depends what type of accident - something not linked to his alcoholism would be more shocking than if he fell over drunk and died from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,129 Posted January 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Depends what type of accident - something not linked to his alcoholism would be more shocking than if he fell over drunk and died from that. Yes, I was going to write "helicopter crash" but in the end settled for "accident" as it covers plane crashes, car crashes, train crashes etc which is the sort of thing I mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,384 Posted January 27, 2020 19 hours ago, Cant Wait said: Then what caused him to crash into the side of a fucking bloody mountain. You blind stupid cunt. Maily Dail article on it says he crashed into the side of said fucking bloody mountain because he was flying too low (no shit). There was thick fog, but the pilot was instrument rated (competent enough to fly in fog). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc 84 Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Youth in Asia said: I don't know much about basketball, but I thought he was behind Jordan, Shaq, LeBron James, Wade and maybe some others. Clearly he did well at business after retiring. Possibly Beckham, Botham, Jimmy White, David Lloyd, Kriss Akabusi or Bill Beaumont could be our equivalents. He was really only behind Jordan and lebron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Spade_Cooley said: Trying to think who else has had threads after death. Gary Speed, Avicii, David Gest... is that it? The first two were worthy in terms of "fuck, really?" out of nowhere-ness. The third... maybe not as much. Edward Bunker Baroness Blatch Frank Searle Little Milton Campbell Myron Floren Gaylord Nelson Barney Martin John Vernon John Hewer Alfredo Reinardo Sally Clark Milton Obote Vassar Clements Professor John Tomlinson David Lange John Garang Lord Mark Carlisle Wim Duisenberg George Wallace General William Westmoreland Lucio Espana Eduard Palosi Betsy Cronkite Tommy Vance Rick James 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cant Wait 93 Posted January 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: Maily Dail article on it says he crashed into the side of said fucking bloody mountain because he was flying too low (no shit). There was thick fog, but the pilot was instrument rated (competent enough to fly in fog). Maily Dail? You mean Daily Mail, next time reread your sentences before posting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cat O'Falk 3,290 Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cant Wait said: Maily Dail? You mean Daily Mail, next time reread your sentence’s before posting. https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/8107-1-prince-phillip-duke-of-edinburgh/?page=45&tab=comments#comment-367899 https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/4607-the-weather/?page=34&tab=comments#comment-365023 https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/9461-iain-lee/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-361795 https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/8107-1-prince-phillip-duke-of-edinburgh/?page=39&tab=comments#comment-350675 https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/9034-the-dead-of-2017/?page=46&tab=comments#comment-331131 https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/5-36-shane-macgowan/?page=3&tab=comments#comment-290029 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,384 Posted January 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cant Wait said: Maily Dail? You mean Daily Mail, next time reread your sentence’s before posting. Sentence's? You mean sentences, next time reread your sentences before posting. 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cant Wait 93 Posted January 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: Sentence's? You mean sentences, next time reread your sentences before posting. Ok. You could’ve just told me why you call this news site Maily Dail instead of Daily Mail. Also and thank you very much for the grammar check. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,515 Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Cat O'Falk said: Edward Bunker Baroness Blatch Frank Searle Little Milton Campbell Myron Floren Gaylord Nelson Barney Martin John Vernon John Hewer Alfredo Reinardo Sally Clark Milton Obote Vassar Clements Professor John Tomlinson David Lange John Garang Lord Mark Carlisle Wim Duisenberg George Wallace General William Westmoreland Lucio Espana Eduard Palosi Betsy Cronkite Tommy Vance Rick James Oh man I miss the days of the DeathList when we only talked about really famous A-list celebrities like Baroness Blatch and Walter Cronkite's wife. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 859 Posted January 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Paul Bearer said: I hadn't. So as far as I'm concerned, he isn't a major death. I'd be curious to know how many people in the UK had heard of him. Can you not differentiate between whether they’re a big death to you and a big death in general? 7 hours ago, Toast said: I agree, but not so sure about Terry Jones who was the other name mentioned. There’s a HUGE difference here. Terry Jones *may* be a more well-known name with the older generation. However, if you were to ask someone from let’s say Tokyo or Barcelona, they’ll have absolutely no fucking clue who you’re talking about. Kobe was a worldwide talent and name. Hell, he’s known simply by his first name. 4 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: I am not really supportive of starting threads for people who have just died. Yes it is worth noting but in an appropriate thread already. The threads should be there for those people we are watching. If there is a convincing conspiracy theory around this then I withdraw my objection What exactly would you want? 10 pages dedicated to a single person in the basketball thread? Does 1 more thread on the site affect you in any sort of way? Do you have any reason to actually object to this? 4 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: Both has beens. I disagree with your sentiment though. I can’t think of any sports star in the UK at current who is idolised on remotely the same level as some of the big American names. Can you even name any UK athlete as dominant, talented and recognized as some of the big names in the US? 3 hours ago, Youth in Asia said: I don't know much about basketball, but I thought he was behind Jordan, Shaq, LeBron James, Wade and maybe some others. Clearly he did well at business after retiring. Possibly Beckham, Botham, Jimmy White, David Lloyd, Kriss Akabusi or Bill Beaumont could be our equivalents. Beckham is the only Brit I can even think of who’s death under the same circumstances would have the same reaction and reach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladan 293 Posted January 27, 2020 Ko be or not ko be... not! Did Trump push a wrong button? Toast is right, I should fuck off. I will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,129 Posted January 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Banana said: Can you not differentiate between whether they’re a big death to you and a big death in general? There’s a HUGE difference here. Terry Jones *may* be a more well-known name with the older generation. However, if you were to ask someone from let’s say Tokyo or Barcelona, they’ll have absolutely no fucking clue who you’re talking about. Kobe was a worldwide talent and name. Hell, he’s known simply by his first name. What exactly would you want? 10 pages dedicated to a single person in the basketball thread? Does 1 more thread on the site affect you in any sort of way? Do you have any reason to actually object to this? Can you even name any UK athlete as dominant, talented and recognized as some of the big names in the US? Beckham is the only Brit I can even think of who’s death under the same circumstances would have the same reaction and reach. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,384 Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Cant Wait said: Ok. You could’ve just told me why you call this news site Maily Dail instead of Daily Mail. Also and thank you very much for the grammar check. Sorry for failing to run my utterances past your royal highness. Numpty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genfærd 452 Posted January 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: Reaction to his death in the U.S. is absolutely hysterical. Americans idolise sporting stars and actors like they’re demi gods. Not only that. But people where I'm from, where basketball is literally the least broadcasted sports from America (NFL, NHL etc.), people are losing their mind. I doubt anyone knew what team he played for, what position and what he accomplished. To be fair, I only know him due to my students using the term "Kobe" when tossing something succesfully. But other than that, nah. I feel just as sorry for the other victims. But the amount of tribute and whoring for likes over his death is hopelessly ridiculous considered it's coming from people that don't give 5 shits about basket. But each to their own, I guess. The hysterical reaction to Michael Jackson was a bit more understandable though it was a different time. But, I'm already tired of this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted January 27, 2020 Is this the right place to say that Basketball is about as exciting as netball played by mice? No? Well who gives a fuck! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
