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...And the gimmick is back.

Totally didn't know. Can't believe this wasn't posted in King Michael's own thread... thank you for this informative post Mr. Brittan!

Right so a couple of things: 1) I've deleted some older conversations, so you (and others) should now be able to PM me, YoungWillz. 2) You must also include a joker. I noticed that I forgot to mention this in the first post, so I just edited it now. Luckily, I realized this mistake early on in the process. 3) I now know the official dates of my vacation, and I will be back in Illinois on New Year's Day. Which means I'll have this pool up and running on January 2nd.

Deaths so far: Smith Hart (2 July) - Obit Gained Ssebaana Kizito (3 July) - No Obit Liu Xiaobo (13 July) - Obit Gained John Wraw (25 July) - Obit Gained June Foray (26 July) - Obit Gained Jeanne Moreau (31 July) - Obit Gained Jim Marrs (2 August) - Obit Gained Robert Hardy (3 August) - Obit Gained Glen Campbell (8 August) - Obit Gained Yisrael Kristal (11 August) - Obit Gained Bruce Forsyth (18 August) - Obit Gained Colin Meads (20 August) - Obit Gained Jerry Lewis (20 August) - Obit Gained Mireille Darc (28 August) - Obit Gained Peter Hall (11 September) - Obit Gained Violet Brown (15 September) - Obit Gained Nabeel Qureshi (16 September) - No Obit. Bobby Heenan (17 September) - Obit Gained Jake LaMotta (19 September) - Obit Gained Liliane Bettencourt (21 September) - Obit Gained Charles Bradley (23 September) - Obit Gained Liz Dawn (25 September) - Obit Gained Tony Booth (25 September) - Obit Gained Dave Strader (1 October) - Obit Gained Liam Cosgrave (4 October) - Obit Gained Eberhard Van Der Laan (5 October) - Obit Gained Roy Dotrice (16 October) - Obit Gained Gord Downie (17 October) - Obit Gained Fats Domino (24 October) - Obit Gained Matt Callander (30 October) - Obit Gained Bobby Doerr (13 November) - Obit Gained Salvatore Riina (17 November) - Obit Gained Malcolm Young (18 November) - Obit Gained Pancho Segura (19 November) - Obit Ganed Charles Manson (19 November) - Obit Gained Della Reese (19 November) - Obit Gained David Cassidy (21 November) - Obit Gained Maurice Hinchey (22 November) - Obit Gained John B Anderson (3 December) - Obit Gained King Michael of Romania (5 December) - Obit Gained Johnny Hallyday (6 December) - Obit Gained Suzanna Leigh (11 December) - Obit Gained. Sharon Laws (16 December) - Obit Gained Death Impends: 1605 Points (Hart; Xiaobo; Foray; Wraw; Meads; V. Brown; Downie; Riina; Anderson; King Michael; Hallyday; Leigh) (Sub: Kristal [Q Diamonds]; Lewis [K Diamonds) Cards Played: The Dead Cow: 1375 Points (Hart; Xiaobo; Wraw; LaMotta; Booth; Strader; Laan; Downie; Callander; Riina; King Michael; Hallyday) (Sub: Campbell [10 Hearts]) Cards Played: Captain Chorizo: 1190 Points (Hart; Wraw; Campbell; Meads; Lewis; Darc; Downie; Doerr; Segura; Reese; King Michael) Cards Played: gcreptile: 1141 Points (Hart: Xiaobo; Campbell; Kristal; Meads; Cosgrave; Downie; Doerr; Riina; King Michael) (Sub: Laws [8 Spades]; Marrs [8 Spades]) Cards Played: Toast: 1080 Points (Campbell; Forsyth; Meads; Lewis; Bettencourt; Dawn; Booth; Cosgrave; Downie; King Michael) Cards Played: JoeyRuss: 1059 Points (Hart; Xiaobo; Wraw; Laan; Downie; Doerr; Riina; King Michael; Hallyday) (Sub: Campbell [K Clubs]; Meads [QHearts]; Booth [4 Spades]) Cards Played: Zsa Zsa's Leg: 1038 Points (Hart; Campbell; Meads; Darc; Heenan; Booth; Laan; Downie; King Michael; Hallyday) (Sub: Riina [A Clubs]; Manson [A Clubs]) Cards Played: msc: 1035 Points (Xiaobo; Hardy; Campbell; Meads; Lewis; Booth; Dotrice; Downie: King Michael; Hallyday) Cards Played: RadGuy: 1020 Points (Hart; Wraw; Campbell; Meads; V. Brown; Downie; Cassidy; King Michael; Hallyday) (Sub: Booth [3 Spades]; Riina [7 Diamonds]) Cards Played: Grave Danger: 725 Points (Xiaobo; Forsyth; Meads; LaMotta; Booth; Domino; King Michael) (Sub: Bettencourt [10 Spades) Cards Played: Shaun Of The Dead/Sean: 653 Points (Bettencourt; Booth; Downie; Young; King Michael; Hallyday) (Sub: Forsyth [7 Hearts]; Meads [J Spades]) Cards Played: JiroemonKimura: 610 Points (Xiaobo; Meads; Bradley; Downie; Hinchey; King Michael) Cards Played: RishCast: 610 Points (Xiaobo; Campbell; Meads; Cosgrave; Downie; King Michael) Cards Played: Bibliogryphon: 605 Points (Kristal; Forsyth; Dawn; Dotrice; Doerr; King Michael) Cards Played: YoungWillz: 415 Points (Hardy; Campbell; Forsyth; Hall) (Sub: V. Brown [10 Hearts]) Cards Played: Gooseberry Crumble: 200 Points (Moreau; Manson) Cards Played:

So the death of King Michael finally drags the Committee's choice of people over the age of 95 up to the average of expected deaths - not particularly impressive particularly as a lot of them are over 95 so the average should actually be higher (but I cba to work it out year by year). So 16 names on the Death List are 95 or older. Average likelihood to die in a year when you are 95 is 0.233. So picking any random sixteen 95 year olds you could expect 4 of them to die. The 4 are King Michael, Peter Sallis, Jake LaMotta and David Rockefeller. What this means is that if you are 95 or older you don't need to worry about being on the Death List as you are no more likely to die than any other 95 year old. Which suggests that the Committee simply pick on age at random rather than based on any medical evidence (which is probably true in the main with King Michael being an exception). EDIT: Although 7 out of 17 in 2016 was a better success rate as was 6 out of 16 in 2015 so perhaps this is just a good year for being an old person on the Death List.

Three thoughts 1. I finally got an update up before someone reminded me to put up an update. 2. 22/50 in a year - bloody good going everyone, but you know, I think you can beat it in 2018... 3. Oh FFS, all the subs need to come into play now - King Michael was in 2nd place on the 2018 list as it stands!

Take it to the Sweepstake thread, please.

Not much gets past you, does it.

I'm at 18/50, still one hit ahead of the DL!

King Michael takes me to 12 out of 50 for 2017. Looking forward to participating next year, still getting my team together...

Joey has just doomed Greg Gilbert, no doubt.

Yeah, congratulations! I think this is his first dead pool win as well.

Congrats to Shaun who won with King Michael!

"I told her, 'We're brothers under the skin, Of that there can be no doubt.' So she said, 'Why don't you go back in And send your brother out.'"

TBH not very happy with my shortlist at all. Been too busy to do anything but the most cursory form checking. (I don't spend much time worrying about uniques, I figure every single one of them is on Gcreptile's shortlist...) Will be happy with a 4th top 50 spot in a row in 2018.

Call me a pedant (OK - don't) The BBC source said "Rangers wearing black armbands to mark the passing of Billy Simpson." but nowhere did it mentioned he had DIED. To win points, there must be the mention of a celebrity's death on a national online news source. Is a running commentary on a football match a NEWS SOURCE??? I have personally PASSED Ibrox on numerous occasions (and trust me, that is the best thing you can do if you are in the area) but so far I haven't died too many times. OK, NOW you can call me a pedant, but while you do, please feel free to discuss the above.

Basically - as I understand it - the founding fathers who dreamt up our current fun whilst they were uni students.

Bert Lahr stopped acting on this day 50 years ago, aged 72.

You raise an interesting point there; could we put one or more of the original Deathlisters on the Deathlist?

I have a question, and Sorry if it has been answered before, but who is the Committee who choses the list Each Year? Are they the same group that met so many years ago in a pub in Britain? Just curious. (I know you cannot give real names, but could be interesting to know the call-names). Hope the original group are alive and well. Thanks for your efforts everyone!

So, he got death not liberty then.

Akihito doesnt look soo bad. But let's see who finds the error between visit of trump today and that of obama in 2009

Death Race Form Guide #12 Whether you like him or not, there's no denying that Robin Williams is an absolute legend who is known for a lot of things. Some people know him for hits such as "Wichita Lineman" or "It's Beginning To Look a Lot Like Christmas", while others may recognize him as a guitarist for rock legends AC/DC. Outside of music, he has also had his fair share of acting roles, with some of his legendary performances including his role as Paul Kersey in Death Wish, Scotty in Star Trek, Penguin in the Batman TV shows, and astronaut George Taylor in Planet of the Apes, as well as being the voice of Shaggy in Scooby Doo. Perhaps most notably he refused to give up his seat to another white person, and it's because of this he became the 40th President of the United States 25 years later. In short, he may have had more achievements in life then any other person, well, apart from Javier Perez de Cuellar...