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I'm no JRM fan and he was foolish to even enter into the conversation (least said etc) but he didn't actually say the victims lacked common sense - people have just twisted what he said to suit their own agenda. He said he has read the first report of the Grenfell Inquiry, which was published last week, and has concluded that ‘the chances of people surviving’ the fire in Grenfell would have increased if they had ignored the fire service’s advice to ‘stay put’. He says that if he had been in that burning building, he would have left. ‘It just seems the common-sense thing to do. And it is such a tragedy that that didn’t happen’, he said. In other words the fire service advice was contrary to common sense and as a result people died and it's a tragedy. I don't care about what happens to JRM but I do get offended by the media and others studying every word politicians say to try and exploit an angle - it's because of stupidity like this that no politician will ever give a straight answer to any question.

Looks like Boris will side step a Portillo moment and parachute into Alan Duncan's Melton Mowbray constituency. Which provides a delicious cockney rhyming slang irony as Melton is the home of pork pies.

Oh no! Walter Freiwald, german "The Price is Right" announcer and "I'm a Star get me out of here!" participant, has incurable cancer and "will die from it": https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article203121840/Walter-Freiwald-Der-Preis-ist-heiss-Moderator-ist-unheilbar-krank.html

It's not actually. 9 times out of 10 in these situations mass death is caused by panic and crowd crushes rather than actual fire, so the fire brigade try to avoid that as well as put out the fire. In the case of Grenfell, no one had bothered to tell the fire service about the flammable cheap cladding, so they worked on the standard principle: avoid panic, isolate area of fire, evacuate the necessary, put out fire. The firemen used the safety advice that helps to save thousands of British lives every year. Its just that in this instance, crucial information was kept from them and the residents, and well, the results were as they are. JRM is using hindsight to judge and thus is open to criticism.

Alternatively A Scot, A. Scott, dies.

This sums up the Scottish tories

Clive was Dunn for on this day 7 years ago, aged 92.

Unfortunately he will never get a QO.

Kirk Douglas (2013) Jane Withers (2013) Earl Cameron (2013 & 2015) Lata Mangeshkar (2013 & 2016) Sean Connery (2014) Regina Lund (2014) Debbie Mathers (2014) Rick Ross (2014) Wilford Brimley (2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 & 2019) Michael Schumacher (2015) Reginald VelJohnson (2015) Pat Hitchcock (2015, 2016 & 2017) Benjamin Ferencz (2016) Christopher Lloyd (2016) Vojislav Seselj (2016) Agne Simonsson (2016) Wole Soyinka (2016) Peter Sutcliffe (2016) Sacheen Littlefeather (2016 & 2018) Ewa Fröling (2017) Kurt Hamrin (2017) Sue Lyon (2017) Baby Peggy (2017) Regis Philbin (2017) Dean Stockwell (2017) Baron Waqa (2017) Christina Magnuson (2017 & 2018) Mick Abrahams (2018) Eddie Alderson (2018) Buzz Aldrin (2018) Rhonda Fleming (2018) Artur Lekbello (2018) Kelly LeMieux (2018) Barbara Lewis (2018) Hosni Mubarak (2018) Olivia Newton-John (2018 & 2019) Jonny Nilsson (2018) Susan Bayh (2019) Jimmy Carter (2019) Clemens Cornielje (2019) Glenn Fabry (2019) Clifford Harper (2019) Katherine Jackson (2019) Crispian Jago (2019) William Lee (2019) Jean-Louis Trintignant (2019) Val Valentino (2019) Barbara Walters (2019) Joanne Woodward (2019) Hsing Yun (2019)

Not sure if this belongs in here, but a meeting with Homes England* over a housing development in a village near me has been postponed until after the election. Someone on Facebook enquired whether this announcement came from a "credible source". I couldn't resist. * in case anyone is unaware, this warm fluffy name conceals a Government department lurking underneath.

But the issue that the fire service was not contrary to common sense. The only reason the advice didn't work is because the cladding spread the fire round the outside of the building and quickened the spread of the fire. That's why is remarks are so offensive. If it wasn't for the council having ignored safety fears then the advice would have been correct; it's only 'common sense' to leave a burning high rise flat if the high rise flat has been made stupidly more flammable than it actually is.

A bit sick of LK on BBC trying to play all of this down. It looks like a rerun of the 2017 campaign all over again. Apparently the Tories are so desperate they think putting Priti Patel at the centre of the campaign is going to be a winner.........

It took me 30 seconds

Catherine Deneuve hospitalised. Serious apparently

I’m not at all convinced that Thelma McKenzie is alive at almost 105. Reason - no independent source that mentions her for decades. Instead she’s listed as alive on Wikipedia for the simple reason that he ESPN site doesn’t have a death date filled in for her. Can anyone shed some light on this?

I'm even lower down than you. I don't pick FFBI, but seem to be stuck with FWWD.

I haven't started mine yet.Am now joint 72nd in the DDP so will need to decide if I up my game or just play for taking part.We shall see though

Form Guide #9- Dame Olivia de Havilland SMOKING KILLS... If she vaped instead would be an option for Advent Avalanche 2025

Yes, that is correct, except I spelled it Dilip Kumar.

Porn legend Candy Samples died this week at the ripe old age of 91. They don't make em like her anymore! https://player.fm/series/series-2458843/rip-candy-samples-1928-2019 Edit: Adult content or summat. You have been warned.

A HUGE news in France, in fact I’m truly sad..

Security services intervene to say No 10 is blocking the Russian interference report for no good reason. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/russia-conservative-party-brexit-intelligence-uk-report-national-security-money-a9185116.html?utm_source=reddit.com

African-American author Ernest J. Gaines dead at 87 years. He was best known for his award-winning novel, A Lesson Before Dying (1993), which tells the story of a black man who is sentenced to death for a crime that he did not commit. Gaines's other works include The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman (1971) and A Gathering of Old Men (1983): https://www.wafb.com/2019/11/05/famed-louisiana-author-ernest-gaines-dies/