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Hmm, well my reply (just take it as read the Cmme don't care, passing pedants! Unless you are in the Cmme in which case remember your mate Gorbachev ) Ulitzer's list KEEPs AGREED with Lansbury, White, Barker, Kissinger, June Brown, Jimmy Carter, Leslie Philips, Tony Bennett, Ros Carter, QE2, Belafonte, Benny, Nolan, Woodward, Poitier and Doherty out right. They are either old and frail, or old and ill, or just old and not striking you as being destined to be around in 2-3 years. The outlier to those is Queen Libby, but she is one of the very few people on the list I'd say you cannot miss and skipping now is just playing with sods law that one of her wee hospital stays next year turns out to be pneumonia or something else suddenly fatal to the very old. DROPS AGREED with Akihito (retirement seems to have given him extra time), Loretta Lynn (doing fine for a soon to be 90 year old stroke survivor), Alan Greenspan (healthy and very boring), the Ayatollah (too young and not dying), Dick Cheney (agreed he looks to have another year at least in him, if you remember Sam Galbraith there is a clear downturn in major transport folks frailty in the year or so before they snuff it), Betty Boothroyd (still active, despite her heart issues), Vanessa Redgrave (imo, she goes in her late 80s). Which leaves us with 9 from 16. Scales (could go tomorrow or 2024), Newhart (frail but seems better now than last year), Walters (MIA and ill), Baxter (still muggling along but a personal favourite), Shane MacGowan (looked fucked for centuries), Dick Van Dyke (healthiest man on planet?), Delors (clearly unwell), Crosby (boy who cried wolf?), Marcos (ill but dull), Yoko Ono (ill but not sure how quickly), Mel Brooks (legend but seems OK), Willie Nelson (performing but old and frail), Le Pen (seems to have a few years in him yet), Castro (I don't believe the rumours of ill health), Bacharach (frail but performing), and Cribbins (too sad to contemplate tbh) Of those, Castro, Le Pen, Newhart and MacGowan seem easier drops. MacGowan could go at any time, but I'm long on the record of disliking these 50/60 year old alcoholic "gotta go one day" picks. Which leaves us with 3 more to drop. I'd drop one of Crosby or Nelson and Willie Nelson seems the better bet of the two. Yoko feels like a cert Cmme drop, though if she died tomorrow it wouldn't surprise me given events. And for a bit of realism (and to avoid jinxing someone else), let's get rid of Marcos here. So the 25 being kept are: Lansbury, White, Barker, Kissinger, Brown, J Carter, L Philips, Bennett, R Carter, QE2, Belafonte, Benny, Nolan, Woodward, Poitier, Doherty, Scales, Walters, Baxter, Van Dyke, Delors, Brooks, Nelson, Bacharach, Cribbins. (Yes, I kept the healthiest 96 year old ever. I was trying to be realistic!) RETURNEES (Ulitzers) Tom Smith, Gorbachev, Jerry Lee Lewis, ONJ, Liza Minelli - 5. Can't argue with Jerry Lee or GORBA-fucking-CHEV. The latter of which seems to have spent most of the last 3 years or so in hospital! Smith, I'm agnostic on - even though having that surgery in summer was probably a huge fucking alarm bell. This is why I never win the DDP. Olivia Newton-John isn't on my radar at the moment, though I am now listening to a low quality Oz radio interview she did a few weeks ago to see if there's any health clues! Liza a solid tip. Returnees I'd put my money behind Nigel Lawson (he has shown up on TV a fair bit lately and I haven't revised my opinion that a sneeze could finish him off), Desmond Tutu (considerably frailer than he was a few years ago), and, don't groan, Attenborough (starting to show and sound his age imo, and I'm wary of a trend for DL missing out on 96 year old British legends who die suddenly). I'd also try and find some room for Ozzy, because I feel like he doesn't have much time left on the planet after, well, all the Ozzy stuff he did to himself. (This is not hypocritic after Shane, as Ozzy is now in the danger zone for men of his age with addictions. Ok, a wee bit hypocritical...) NEW AGREED - Tebbit, Whale (such a DL name), Alagiah (sadly), Field (an open goal), Pele, Charlton. Glynis Johns would be a great pick too. I could see James Watson showing up too. DISAGREED - De Gaulle, Halvorsen, Parker, K Jackson don't feel front page famous. Tim Curry feels a DL pick but 2022 might be too early by a year or two. Superstar Billy Graham has exaggerated his health so often I wouldn't trust him dying if we were having his actual funeral. Bill Turnbull I feel he has longer to go than Alagiah, but will be on the DL. The rest is a matter of subjectivity, so I'll end by adding, that, imo, Russell Bishop, Marianne Faithful, Tom Weiskopf, and Vic Elford are all ill folk famous enough for the front page. Or infamous in the Babes in the Wood child killers case. The Duke of Kent, I know someone he spoke to last month actually, and he's even frailer and iller looking in real life. Stroke suffering David Graham has gone downhill so fast, James Lovelock is of the moment (and would be doomed due to the whole oldest new pick sequence), oh, and Mohammed Al-Fayed is meant to be dying. This leaves space for a few aging A listers (presumably one of Eastwood or Hackman gets a nod, or Eva Marie Saint), and the "Oh they actually picked this sick person" (maybe the Cmme love comic books and nab George Perez) picks.

Alright, my thoughts (not that anybody cares... particularly not the "committee") KEEP (21) Angela Lansbury (frail, seldom seen now and 97 next year) Betty White (frail, 100 in January) Bob Barker (99 next year, frail, seldom heard from now, numerous hospitalisations) Henry Kissinger (loose keep... he's still active, though frail(ish). Could go on for another 2 years or could go in 2 months) June Brown (95 next year, lifelong smoker, now retired and gone quiet as of recent) Jimmy Carter (frail, occasional hospitalisations, imagine he will go next year) Leslie Phillips (strong keep... how is he still alive?!) Prunella Scales (had dementia for years now and the most recent update suggests she has max 1-2 years left) Tony Bennett (strong keep... Alzheimer's + looked fucked in that August appearance, I think he'll just pass in his sleep soon enough) Rosalynn Carter (looks frail enough and health issues like her husband) Queen Elizabeth II (loose keep, in an ideal world we'd know exactly what's going on, I still think it's nothing serious but too big to drop) Harry Belafonte (loose keep, still in the public eye but noticeably very frail now) Bob Newhart (ditto the Belafonte comment, still alive but looks frail, I think he may do an Ed Asner and just go suddenly) Barbara Walters (seriously ill for years, now totally out of public view) Pope Benedict XVI (frail, seldom seen in public and 95 next year, the only other "way too big to drop" name other than Carter and QEII) Linda Nolan (terminal cancer, recent reports suggest she's nearing the end now) Joanne Woodward (Alzheimer's for years and not seen in the public eye in a long time) Sidney Poitier (no longer seen in public, we're led to believe he's very frail and he's 95 next year) Stanley Baxter (turning 96, seldom seen nowadays, noticeably frail in the last few pics of him) Shane MacGowan (loose keep, he just looks so fucked, like a small cold could finish him off) Shannen Doherty (terminal cancer, now well surpassed her expectancy, I think it will catch up with her soon enough) DROP (18) Dick Van Dyke (still doing sit ups and running at 96, there are stronger nonagenarian options) Akihito (looks fine in recent pics, still working) Loretta Lynn (going on that recent video, looks ok, seems to have recovered the best one can from a big stroke) Alan Greenspan (looks ok, not much change in that recent video I posted, again there are stronger nonagenarian options) Jacques Delors (loose drop, cancelled an event recently due to health but looks ok in a recent vid... too unpredictable) Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (gave a recent public address, looked ok) David Crosby (if you just Google him you can find loads of recent interviews, inc. videos, he looks ok) Dick Cheney (appeared in the recent 9/11 doc in the BBC and at Dole's funeral, looked fine) Imelda Marcos (loose drop, looks ok in recent public pic despite being in a wheelchair, we just don't know enough) Yoko Ono (loose drop, looks ok, definitely slowing and getting frail but could go on for a few years yet) Mel Brooks (loose drop, still active and working and giving interviews, there are stronger nonagenarian options) Willie Nelson (loose drop, performing the other week and looks ok) Betty Boothroyd (I just watched a video of her from her office the other week, looks ok and still working) Jean-Marie Le Pen (loose drop, seems to still be active and doing video interviews despite the health fears several years ago) Raul Castro (loose drop, still making the odd public appearance and looks ok) Burt Bacharach (frail(ish) and seldom seen but we just don't know enough to give him a place) Bernard Cribbins (we're told he's doing "fine", ditto the above reason – we don't know enough) Vanessa Redgrave (loose drop, some whispers about her health but not enough concrete info to go on) ADD (29) Frank Williams (91, obese, wheelchair bound and looks frail) Sidney Cooke (95, strokes and heart attacks galore, another "how is he still alive?" name) Katharine Jackson (wheelchair bound, serious stroke, frail and hospitalisations, ditto how is she still alive?) Tim Curry (probably my most controversial pick but hear me out – totally fucked from that major stroke and still indulging in his vices that likely caused it e.g. smoking, his physical and mental state is so bad I would expect him to have a recurring stroke to finish him off) Lord Norman Tebbit (from seeing him in the flesh myself this summer I can tell you he won't see 2023) Philippe de Gaulle (100 in 2 weeks time, we're told too ill to make public appearances, an easy hit) Winnie Ewing (Alzheimer's for years, ppl are shocked she's still alive) Monica Vitti (Alzheimer's for decades, surely can't see through another year) Gail Halvorsen (102 next year, frail and miraculously survived a COVID infection by the sounds) Tom Smith (terminal cancer that's spread all over his body) Tom Parker (terminal brain cancer, good news recently but like Doherty, I think it will catch up quite quickly) Mikhail Gorbachev (frail, seldom seen in public, add him to the small "too big to miss" club) Jerry Lee Lewis (very frail, can barely string a sentence together) Olivia Newton-John (terminal cancer, quieter as of recent...) James Whale (terminal cancer, looks like a burnt lasagne, he's now outlived his prognosis, can't see him getting to 2023) George Alagiah (terminal cancer, seems close to the end now) Bill Turnbull (ditto Alagiah) Jean-Louis Trintignant (turning 92, still has cancer) Jimmy Millar (dementia for years, death hoax this year which was very believable at the time as he's been expected to go for a while now) Frank Field (terminal cancer and in hospice care) Sandra Day O'Connor (Alzheimer's for years, never seen in public) Superstar Billy Graham (yet more recent hospitalisations, years of ill health, another how is he still alive type) Pele (cancer, very frail, inconsistent statements from family suggest they downplayed it when the truth seems that he's dying) Liza Minnelli (recently disappeared from public eye, rumours she's near the end) Sir Bobby Charlton (dementia, didn't attend his own brother's funeral last year due to ill health) James Watson (very frail, already looks like a corpse) Sir Michael Gambon (noticeably absent from public eye recently, rumours of ill health, not attending the Harry Potter cast reunion) Larry Storch (99 next year, has looked very frail for years, another how is he still alive type) Glynis Johns (99 next year, been in a care home for years)

Obit for James Devis (IMDb), British cinematographer, aged 90. Credits include The Little Shop of Horrors (1986), Moonraker, Superman (1978), Dune (1984), Supermario Bros., Highlander: Endgame, Interview with the Vampire, Empire of the Sun, Octopussy, Return to Oz, For Your Eyes Only, The Shining, The New Avengers, The Wicker Man (1973), The Vikings, Reach For the Sky, and 4 Carry On films... phew! What a great career!

Jimmy Robson, who played for Burnley from 1956-1965 and played during their First Division victory in 1960, dead aged 82. He also played and scored in the 1962 FA Cup Final against Tottenham. Interesting article covering the Burnley squad of 1960, including Jimmy, and their diagnoses with dementia here. Obituaries: BBC, The Sun, ITV.

I think Meryl Streep could die from a heart attack if Frances McDormand beats her to the fourth acting Oscar.

Finnish metal musician Antti Railio (wiki) has now been in hospital for over a week due to a serious bout of pneumonia, coughing up blood: https://www.iltalehti.fi/viihdeuutiset/a/a38ad223-e124-4e2a-985a-6f09637eaa04 He's only in his 30s but has had a ton of health issues already, some of it due to his weight (around 200kg/440lbs). Got famous for winning the second season of the Voice of Finland in 2013.

Yes that’s the one I was looking at - the picture seems to match other recent videos/photos.

That must have spoiled the party.

@Ulitzer95 Decent thoughtful post. May I be nosey please and ask under what circumstances you came so close to Norman Tebbit this year?

If it helps at all - Denise O’Dell is his daughter and active in the film/TV industry. Nik O’Dell (IMDb) is also a relation - info on him although no reference to Denis. His nephew is Richard O’Dell, involved in Portobello Radio and made a reference to his uncle in 2020 here. He seems to have family across the UK, Europe, NZ and USA and a fair few involved in the media industry so I don’t think he would have gone off the radar. I would also say Denis does have a social media account but you can’t see any dated info, but I reckon that puts him as alive at least c2007-8 when Facebook really started to take off as a social media platform.

I've looked for Denis O'Dell before. There's some suspicion I recall that that was a stage name, at which point I threw my hands up and gave up. That really annoyed me given he's mentioned in You Know My Name (Look Up The Number), ha! I may venture into this nightmare again sometime soon. But I wouldn't be picking him for anything.

Let's start with establishing his age... Daily Mirror from mid-October 1968 says he was 41 then, so born c. 1927. Important to note that his name is spelt "Denis" in some papers, and "Dennis" in others. Then heading over to FreeBMD... searching for "Denis O'Dell" and "Dennis O'Dell" from 1925 to 1929 returns just two results: DENNIS O'DELL b. 1927 Croydon DENNIS W. O'DELL b. 1927 Leighton Buzzard Then looking at both Ancestry and the GRO, only one of these guys seems to have died up to 2019 and that's DENNIS W.(William) O'DELL b. 1927, who died in 2003 in Milton Keynes. So, the Croydon individual is still alive. The only other clue I found was this site which is selling signed copies of O'Dell's book on The Beatles, for a tenner a pop. If they have a bundle of them and are selling them at that price, it would suggest he was alive post-2003 surely? My hunch is on alive, and turning 95 next year. Would like to hear @YoungWillz's thoughts on this though.

in a recent interview, Bridge to Terabithia author Katherine Paterson still seems sharp and relatively healthy at 89. perhaps for future considerations rather than for 2022. i also learned that she released a new book in October (the content of which seems a little too evangelical for my consideration, but I'm glad she's still releasing new work)

Yes, not exactly frail. Drop him

Just found this video about Jean Teillet, oldest man alive in the 1970’s who died in 1977 at 110. He is 108 in this video but looks and sounds like a 80yo man. Incredible, a must watch, even if you don’t understand french

Underground film director Kenneth Anger (b. 1927) needs to be seriously considered for next year. I get a "runner-up at the local Kirk Douglas lookalike contest" kind of vibe from him nowadays. Looks every bit of his age, even though not sure how how old he is in these photos. Well, he ain't getting any younger. Video from 2019: https://worldofwonder.net/iconic-filmmaker-kenneth-anger-dressed-in-various-gucci-lewks-is-interviewed-at-the-chateau-marmont/

Donald Duck too. It's astonishing how little he has aged over the years. All that rage must be good for his health.

1921: Hans Albert / Evelyn Witkin 1922: Roland Dumas / Micheline Presle 1923: Rudolph A. Marcus / Diana Kennedy 1924: Charlie Munger/ Jane Morgan 1925: Leo Esaki / Lee Grant 1926: David Attenborough / Helen Gallagher 1927: Harry Max Markowitz / Rosalyn Carter 1928: E. J. Corey /Ruth Westheimer 1929: Jürgen Habermas / Liz Sheridan 1930: Buzz Aldrin / Mary Quant Congrats @Yvonne

Report of the death of Keith Tippett, English jazz pianist and husband of Julie Driscoll: https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCAAQgwEyAggAMgUIABCxAzIFCAAQsQMyBQgAELEDMgUIABCxAzIFCAAQsQMyBQgAEIMBMgUIABCxAzIFCAAQsQM6DggAEOoCELQCEJoBEOUCUM8LWPgpYMAvaAFwAHgAgAGsAYgBgw2SAQM4LjiYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&uact=5&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&client=tw-ob&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ilmattino.it%2Fspettacoli%2Fmusica%2Fmorto_keith_tippett_vacalebre-5287840.html Known for his huge band Centipede and appearing on at least three King Crimson albums. Apparently.

French Jazz-musician Claude Abadie dead at 100 years: https://www.tsfjazz.com/jazznews/breve/le-clarinettiste-claude-abadie-est-decede

Scottish jazz sax man Duncan Lamont dies hours after his own birthday gig: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jazz-great-duncan-lamont-dies-after-gig-on-birthday-fbdn2fcn3

My Mother-in-law was clearing out an old bookshelf last week when she found a copy of God Will Fix It by Jimmy Saville. She said she doesn't like just throwing books in the bin but this one just had to go.

You obviously didn't read Sir Creep's post: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/1276-hollywood-possibilities/page-40#entry267831 I did read it, but I'm Robert Mugabe, I do not take this kind of black repression from white people like SC. Also, who the hell do you think you are, detective falk, used to take pride in putting away black men. This repression must end.

For those who used used to watch Britain’s got MORE talent……David Watson who competed 12 times has died….. https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/17032481/britains-got-talent-star-dead/