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Just got married according to Twitter.

He does look good for a 93 year old who is a recovered alcoholic (an achievement in itself). Lets hope Buzz's shuttle can still clear the tower.

Update 20 January Here is the Joker Distribution (now on Stats post too): Henry Kissinger 1 Bob Barker 1 Nigel Starmer-Smith 2 Tony Bennett 1 Norman Tebbit 1 Joanne Woodward 2 Joss Ackland 1 Rolf Harris 11 Ryuichi Sakamoto 9 Shane MacGowan 1 30 And here are the baseline points for all runners. The following penalties are in place: incorrectly predicted (-1 for each 'hit') + (-2 out by 5 on total hits; applies to all runners at this point) + (-2 for having joker incorrect; applies to all runners at this point) = current score. For example, @Grimgrass is at -16. Calculated = -1 * 12 hits + (-2) + (-2) = -12-2-2 = -16 Here's the starting ranks. Grimgrass -16 Great Uncle Bulgaria -17 diego -17 Joey Russ -18 Joltin Joe -19 YoungWillz -19 Bibliogryphon -19 Sean -19 theoldlady -20 gcreptile -20 wannamaker -20 LizLemon -20 Newjack -20 Etushispushingupdaisies -21 tracy -21 The Duke of Deadinburgh -21 TQR -22 Book -22 Torva Messor -22 Funeralopolis -23 DoorSlammer -23 WinterCake -23 Annami -23 chilean way -24 Summer in Transylvania -24 The Daredevil -25 Dying Probably -25 The Old Crem -25 Hell -25 ThereWillBeDeaths7 -26 Grab some popcorn and get comfortable, only 345 days to go!

Donn Cambern, editor of 'Easy Rider' and 'Romancing the Stone', dead at 93.

Luke Grimes, the attractive American film and television actor, best known for his roles in the film "American Sniper", the "Fifty Shades of Grey" film series, and as Kayce, the youngest son of Kevin Costner's John Dutton, on the Paramount Network hit "Yellowstone", is 39 today. Jack Nicklaus, the famous American professional golfer, probably the greatest golfer of all time, who won 6 Masters, 5 PGA Championships, 4 U.S. Opens, and 3 British Opens, the only one to hold the record for three time wins of all these four major tournaments, is 83 today.

Romanian actor Teodor Corban has died aged 65.

INVERSE DEAD POOL 2023   Welcome to the 12th edition of the Inverse Dead Pool, the nice dead pool where you don't want your picks to die. How to play The game starts when I post a list of this year's 50 most popular Derby Dead Pool picks. From this list of 50, you must pick 25 people who you think will SURVIVE the year. The premise is to AVOID picking people who will die. Rank your picks – from least likely to die to most likely to die. You receive points according to their position on your team – 25 points if your #1 pick dies, 24 points if your #2 pick dies, and so on, down to 1 point if your #25 pick dies, and 0 points if anyone you haven't picked dies. You do NOT want points. The winner is the player with the fewest points at the end of the year (Dec 31, 23.59 GMT). You may also appoint a substitute, or substitutes, in case any picks die before the submission deadline (or in case you accidentally include a name twice). If that happens, everyone in a lower position on your team moves up a place, and your top substitute is drafted in at #25. Once you have a team ready, post it in this thread. If an eligible pick dies during the submission period, then the 51st top DDP pick becomes eligible; if another dies, then the 52nd becomes eligible, etc. You may amend your team after posting it, as long as it's before the submission deadline (you might want to do this if, for example, the 51st name becomes eligible and you want to include them). If you do, make sure to post again in this thread to clarify what you've changed. Tie break details If two or more players are tied for victory at the end of the year, the winner is whoever had the fewest points most recently (i.e. whoever had the most recent pick to die, or whoever ranked that pick higher if all tied players picked them, or whoever had the second most recent pick to die if those are the same, etc). If all tied players have the exact same hits in the exact same positions (or if they achieve a heretofore-unachieved perfect score of 0), the tie is not broken – all tied players share victory. Congratulations to our previous winners... 2022 YorkshireBanker 27 points 2021 BabyBlue 25 points 2020 The Quim Reaper 34 points 2019 drol 10 points 2018 machotrouts 17 points 2017 drol 25 points 2016 Pedro67 21 points 2015 Death Impends 15 points 2014 Bibliogryphon 10 points 2013 N/A 2012 Esturian Float 4 points 2011 Garn2 15 points Thank you to our previous hosts... 2018-2021 Death Impends 2014-2017 The Dead Cow 2011-2012 Spade_Cooley Links to previous Inverse Dead Pools... 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2012-2016, 2011

Nice try, adding 8 points to The Jam.

Please base your answers from the posting directly above you. @Grim Up North To the next poster, please wait until Grim`s posting is corrected.

I think you mean -6 for the jam?

60 Bonnie Tyler — Total Eclipse of the heart +4 57 Kraftwerk – The Model / Computer Love 47 Madness – House of Fun 34 The Police – Every breath you take 29 Men at Work – Down Under 29 Culture Club – Do you really want to hurt me? 26 The Jam — Town called Malice -6 22 Duran Duran – Is There Something I Should Know? 22 David Bowie – Let's Dance 21 Flying Pickets – Only You 10 Irene Cara — Fame  8 Eddy Grant – I Don't Wanna Dance Corected. Thanks Paul.

I can't imagine much more tragic than having Denny's as your final meal

One of the reasons I didn't want to re-listen to the songs that I only vaguely remembered sucking was fear of them earworming into me. KC is off the list but has succeeded of living on in my brain.

David Crosby was a hit for myself and several others.

You tried multiple times to participate in this pool but both your attitude and grasp of the rules were so shit that I banned you from it. Some things never change.

From Eight Miles High to six feet under, Crosby off of Stills, Nash & Young is the next name to nudge this pool awake. He said he’d be dead soon on Twitter. He literally told us. Only Book and Banana listened, with the latter now crashing into the lead. Well cunt off my band mates and call me Dave…just look at that scoreboard: Banana - 3 Engineer - 2 En Passant - 2 Newjack - 2 Grim Up North - 2 Book - 2 gcreptile - 1 Death Impends - 1 RoverAndOut - 1 Charles d’Irlande - 1 Joemoneypenny - 1 Dying Probably - 1 Toast - 1 BuffaloPhil - 1 Spade Cooley - 1 TQR - 1 GuyFromFuture - 1 Every other fucker - 0

Richard Nixon, Kurt Cobain, Jackie Kennedy, John Candy, Bill Hicks and Kim Il-sung from 1994 Jerry Garcia, Selena, Dean Martin and of course the assassination of Yitzah Rabin from 1995 Francois Mitterand, Ella Fitzgerald, Gene Kelly and Marcello Mastroianni from 1996 Deng Xiaoping, Jacques Cousteau, Robert Mitchum and Jimmy Stewart from 1997 (up until late August), with the last two less than two months before Diana.

Here are the survivors of my 2023 suggestions list, updated for the new year: - Sir Michael A. Epstein - Meets the famousness criteria and 103 next year.  - Norman Lear - Doubtlessly mentioned before. Needs no introduction. Thread here. - John Astin - Gomez Addams most famously. 94 next year. Thread here. - Alan Oppenheimer - 94 next year. Doubtful whether he meets the notability criteria, but I think that, after William H. Gates, he ought to.  - Rosey Grier - RFK's bodyguard, American Football Player, Protestant Minister, occasional Actor, and the bloke that caught Sirhan Sirhan is 92 next year. - James Hong - Still incredibly active, so I do not expect him to go yet, but a rather Deathlisty name. 95 next year. Thread here. - Donald P. Bellisario - A name I am surprised I do not hear much about these 'ere parts. 89 next year. - David Sutherland - One of the creators of the modern Dennis the Menace ought to QO, and is 91 next year. Died 19th January 2023. - Gladys West - One of the early developers of the GPS. 94 next year. Never mentioned before on this forum according to a quick search. - Hazel McCallion - 103 next year. Mentioned on the Ideas and Possibilities for 2022 thread. Ought to meet the famousness criteria. Died 29th January 2023. - Bill Cobbs - The third nightguard in the Night at the Museum franchise, the other two being Dick Van Dyke and Mickey Rooney, both DL alumni, is 90 next year. - Fred Roos - 90 next year. Apparently the man who introduced George Lucas to Harrison Ford. Also produced The Godfather II, which he won an Oscar for. - Lloyd Morrisett - One of the folks that created Sesame Street alongside Jim Henson and Joan Ganz Cooney. 95 next year. Died 23rd January 2023. - Joan Ganz Cooney - See Lloyd Morrisett. - John Williams - The most prolific film composer of all time turns 92 next year. Bound to die as I have dropped him from the earliest draft of my Shadowlist. Thread here. - Billy Dee Williams - Seems a tad premature, but, evident these past two years, such folk have a habit of turning up on the main list. - Paul Ignatius - This one's notability in the UK is questionable, but his death ought to be rather well-reported in the USA when it happens. 104 next year. - Ashraf Ghani - Former Afghan President, as most should know following the August of 2021. Enemy of the Taliban, and has not had a whole stomach since the 1990s, as a result of cancer. - Joan Morecambe - Only as questionable as William H. Gates. 97 next year. - Bernard Donoughue - 90 next year and could succumb to chronic awful haircuts. - Bas de Gaay Fortman - 87 next year and looked rather rough in the recent documentary about Queen Beatrix. - Frank Field - Terminal Cancer. Frankly (geddit?) should have been on this year's list, and probably will not see The New Year. That said, few expected him to celebrate his 80th birthday (16th July 2022). Thread here. - Terry Waite - One of those people that Summer Sr. thought died years ago. Everyone else on that list, bar Julian Glover, that I am aware of have died in the last two years. Thread here. - Siân Phillips - 91 next year. Still somewhat active, however. - Bela Lugosi - The son of Bela Lugosi. 86 next year. - Alvin Rakoff - The man that gave Sean Connery and Alan Rickman their first jobs is 97 next year and isn't looking that well. - Peter Falk - I hear he might have Alzheimer's. - Jon Rumney - 96 next year, still rather active. - Jules Walter - 95 next year and, as far as I know, the oldest living actor to have appeared in any of the Star Wars films. - Caroline Blakiston - Many Bothans died to bring you this suggestion. - Cy Town - Another one like Jules Walter. Both would almost definitely find a place on the List of the Lost. - Leonard Peltier - Vice Presidential nominee in 2020 for a lesser-known party. Withdrew from the election not because he is serving two life sentences for murder but for health reasons unknown. He has previously been the victim of beatings in prison. - Julian Glover - See Terry Waite. - Alan Kooi Simpson - Has looked ancient for years. I honestly thought he would be dead by now. 93 next year. - Daniel Ellsberg - The man that released the Pentagon Papers is still with us at 92. Diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer in February 2023. Almost definitely won't see the year out, but should be considered for the main list in the unlikely event that he does. Died 16th June 2023. - Wilhelm Buesing - Another rather unfamous name, with low, but not nonexistent, chances of a QO. 103 next March. Died 25th June 2023. - Brian Murphy - 92 next year. The oldest living member of the main cast of Man About the House. Also said the famous line "During the war" when Buster Merryfield was still a banker. Thread here. - Brian Cooke - The surviving of the two creators of Man About the House is 87 next year. - Sir Colville Young - Governor-General of Belize for 27 years until his retirement in 2021. 91 in November. - Story Musgrave - The astronaut is 87 in August. Obitable? Yes. Obitable enough? Maybe. - William Turnbull - The Hong Kong sailor that I discovered after Bill Turnbull died. 91 next year. - Jane Fonda - Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma. I think she will be on the list within the next few years regardless of whether her death is imminent or not, she just seems like the kind of pick that the committee will go for as news like this cancer diagnosis, or the return of it, breaks, even if she stays on the list for a few years. Thread here. - Peter Cellier - 96 next year. - Melvyn Hayes - 88 next year. - Baroness Jane Campbell - 65 next year. Can't see her making it to 80, maybe 70. She may have a few more years left in her yet, though. - Robert C. Wise - Ancient American politician. 99 next May. - Amartya Sen - 91 next year and probably famous enough for the DL. - Richard M. Sherman - 96 next year. Probably the most Deathlisty name that has hardly been mentioned on this forum. Thread here. - Ales Bialiatski - Byelorussian Nobel Laureate. Currently in prison for his work. Enemies of Putin/Lukashenko have a habit of "mysteriously" dying. - Luis Garavito - One of the most prolific serial killers of all time is eligible for parole in 2023, suffers from eye cancer, and needs blood transfusions regularly. 67 next year. - Norman Kember - A pacifist who went to Iraq to promote peace, and ended up being taken hostage. Born at somepoint in 1931. - Wole Soyinka - The first black recipient of the Nobel Prize in Literature. 90 next year. - Franco Migliacci - The writer of Volare is 94 next year. - J. Reginald Murphy - A journalist whose main claim to fame is being the victim of a kidnapping some 50 years ago. 91 at some point next year. - Charles Lagus - David Attenborough's cameraman for his original television show Zoo Quest. 96 next year. - Yasushi Akashi - The UN Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs from 1996 to 1998 is 92 tomorrow. - W. Gifford-Jones - Born plain old Ken Walker in Croydon, he is a physician and author residing in Canada. 100 next February. - Lina Medina - Youngest mother ever, having given birth to a boy aged just 5 years, 7 months, and 21 days. 91 next year. - Masahiro Mori - The creator and coiner of the term "Uncanny Valley" is 97 next year. - Meredith Belbin - A British researcher that, in 1981, created the Belbin Team Inventory (other names include the BSPI and BTRI, which stand for Belbin Self-Perception Inventory and Belbin Team Role Inventory respectively). He is 98 next year. - Per Waestberg - The current oldest serving member of The Swedish Academy. 91 next year. - Marion Kozak - Ed Milliband's mother is 90 next year. - Gloria Dea - One of the last surviving centenarian stars of the Golden Age of Hollywood, as well as being the first magician to perform on the Las Vegas Strip, is 102 next year. Died 18th March 2023. - Levin H. Campbell - 96 in January. Currently a serving US Court of Appeals Judge, albeit inactive. - Shoichiro Toyoda - Former Chairman of the Toyota group. 98 in February. Died 14th February 2023. - Sir Shridath Ramphal - The Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Nations from 1975 to 1990 is 96 next year. - Ronald Poppo - 76 this year. In 2012 he survived a cannibal attack in which he lost almost all of his face (Eyebrows, nose, one eye and was blinded in the other, as well as parts of his forehead and cheek). - Lord David Craig - 94 this September. Famous enough for pools, and maybe the DL, but I wouldn't bet on it. - Eddie Stobart - The founder of Stobart, Ltd. is still alive at 94. Thread here. - Dame Stella Rimington - 88 next month (at the time of writing). Definitely famous enough for the main list. - Roy W. Menninger - The American politician is 97 this year. Obitable? - Sabino Cassese - Italian judge and minor 2022 presidential candidate. He looked about 80 thirty years ago. - Sir Tipene O'Regan - New Zealander Maori leader and academic who turns 85 next September. - Andrew Davies - Only mentioned a few times hereabouts, but he's a very Deathlisty name and turns 88 in September 2024. - L. K. Advani - Former Deputy PM of India under Vajpayee in the early 2000s. - L. Douglas Wilder - Never mentioned on the forum apart from one pool entry. Slightly surprising given that he is an obitable 92-year old. - Indarjit Singh - Incredibly frail at the King's coronation. 92 next year. - Yuri Oganessian - Worthy of DL consideration as he enters his nineties. The only living person to have an element named after him. - Vardis Vardinogiannis - A Greek billionaire, so probably obitable, 90 in December, and recently lost his wife. - Yoshie Murayama - Jimmy Carter isn't the only 1924-born leader to have a living wife, as Tomiichi Murayama's is 97 this year. - Maggi Hambling - A chain smoker, probably to this day, and 78 in October. - Filippo Maria Pandolfi - 96 in November. A European Comissioner under Delors. - Ann Roth - An academy award nominee in costume design, 92, who also starred in the recent Barbie film in what has been described as a "pivotal" scene. The only prior mentions of her on the forum are as a 20/20+3 pick. - Margaret Towner - Not the Star Wars actress, but a nonagenarian Presbyterian Minister, the first woman ordained as such in the United States. - Bruce Dern - 88 next year. Passes the fame threshold. - Robert Paxton - Mentioned once by Lafaucheuse last year. Turns 92 in 2024. - Richard Chamberlain - Famous enough, and turns 90 next year, so coming into the threshold of committee consideration even without outstanding health issues. Thread here. - George Carey - Deathlist-level famous and 88 next month (at the time of writing). - Sir Stephen Brown GBE - Probably the oldest living GBE currently. Definitely obitable and unpicked in this year's DDP. - Narges Mohammadi - In a similar situation to Bialiatski, she is the 2023 Nobel Peace Prize winner, currently serving sixteen years in prison for her activism in Iran. Apparently, she is also being tortured. - David L. Eubanks - 88 next month (at the time of writing). Maybe obitable enough for the DDP, as he was President of Johnson University for 38 years. - Dan Inosanto - 88 next year, his claim to fame is that he taught Bruce Lee how to wield nunchucks, also going on to mentor Lee's son Brandon. His daughter is Diana Lee Inosanto, recently Morgan Elsbeth in Ahsoka. Apparently never before mentioned on this forum. - Dan Carney - The co-founder of Pizza Hut, whose late brother's death was noted hereabouts, is 93 next year. - Steve Binder - The director of The Star Wars Holiday Special is still alive aged 91. This list is still a work in progress. I shall update it when necessary.

Alright, the tables have been populated and here's the first update on statistics for DL CL 23! I'll post these to the Stats section as well. Any comments or questions, let's hear them. ------- Number of entries: 30 Average number of picks: ~17 Range of picks: 12 to 22 Number of players with joker: 30 Top 5 picks: Nigel Starmer-Smith (28), Rolf Harris (28), Jimmy Carter (27), Ryuichi Sakamoto (26), Sonny Rollins (25) Bookies favourite: Rolf Harris with 28 picks, jokered 11 times (Host decision based on number of jokers; Nigel Starmer-Smith with 28 picks, jokered twice) Unique picks: Alan Alda (Chilean way), Ali Khamenei (Chilean way), Bob Newhart (Bibliogryphon), Hal Linden (WinterCake), Tina Turner (The Old Crem) Not Selected: Desmond Morris, Angie Dickinson, Robert Duvall, Michael Parkinson Designated survivor(s): TBD

On this day 9 years ago in 2014, Scottish footballer Bobby Collins died aged 82. He played for numerous teams but his longest and best known stints were with Celtic, Leeds United and Everton as well as playing for Scotlands national football team.

They consider all the paws-sibilities...

You know you're getting old when Prime Ministers are getting younger than you!

Lord Carrington, no doubt....

Happy Birthday, 95 today

I voted for Vera Lynn!