TQR 14,400 Posted May 31 One week until nominations close, this is how many parliamentary candidates have been selected (exc 18 seats in NI): LAB: 627 GRN: 573 LDM: 530 REF: 470 CON: 448 WPB: 173 SDP: 125 IND: 99 SNP: 57 (of 57) PC: 28 (of 32) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,606 Posted May 31 Tory MP for Newcastle Under - Lyme standing down - another wave of Tory standing down coming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,057 Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Tory MP for Newcastle Under - Lyme standing down - another wave of Tory standing down coming? Pity, I rather liked him. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c844pqyld84o His barely contained fury at Johnson for partying while his grandmother was dying was something to behold. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,144 Posted May 31 27 minutes ago, msc said: If I've been following Toast's posts correctly, she's not just looking forward, she's got a brand new pair of boots for the kicking. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 31 19 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Tory MP for Newcastle Under - Lyme standing down - another wave of Tory standing down coming? No idea, but on Newscast last night, they were discussing the defection of Mark whatshisname from Bolton and talking about how quiet and polished it was, perfectly choreographed by Labour. They were musing whether Labour have a few more of these in the drawer for when they need to be unveiled, as nobody has had a clue about Elphicke or Logan(?) until they've been announced. No rumours mentioned and they said it's not expected but it wouldn't surprise them based on what's gone before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 31 23 minutes ago, TQR said: One week until nominations close, this is how many parliamentary candidates have been selected (exc 18 seats in NI): LAB: 627 GRN: 573 LDM: 530 REF: 470 CON: 448 WPB: 173 SDP: 125 IND: 99 SNP: 57 (of 57) PC: 28 (of 32) That's bonkers. And Tories are still stepping down - 200 candidates to find in a week, good luck in not getting some raving loonies, Rishi! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted May 31 1 minute ago, RoverAndOut said: That's bonkers. And Tories are still stepping down - 200 candidates to find in a week, good luck in not getting some raving loonies, Rishi! I think Howling Laud Hope is too busy running Ed Davey’s campaign! 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,476 Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: No idea, but on Newscast last night, they were discussing the defection of Mark whatshisname from Bolton and talking about how quiet and polished it was, perfectly choreographed by Labour. They were musing whether Labour have a few more of these in the drawer for when they need to be unveiled, as nobody has had a clue about Elphicke or Logan(?) until they've been announced. No rumours mentioned and they said it's not expected but it wouldn't surprise them based on what's gone before. I'm not sure the Logan thing was a defection in the crossing the floor sense. The guy said he was putting in an application to join Labour that day, so it sounded more like he's trying to join as a normal member. (Which would be problematic for him, given the whole "don't stand for another party for five years before" rule, I'm not this nobody is worth bending that one.) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,606 Posted May 31 20 minutes ago, msc said: I'm not sure the Logan thing was a defection in the crossing the floor sense. The guy said he was putting in an application to join Labour that day, so it sounded more like he's trying to join as a normal member. (Which would be problematic for him, given the whole "don't stand for another party for five years before" rule, I'm not this nobody is worth bending that one.) Oh I think Labour would bend it. His views are more Labour than Elphicke’s are. Several others who stood against Labour in 2019 are now in / back in the party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted May 31 16 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: That's bonkers. And Tories are still stepping down - 200 candidates to find in a week, good luck in not getting some raving loonies, Rishi! Seriously, an unseamly scramble for bodies in what were winnable seats five years back would be a terrible look at this stage, giving Rishi some hard questions about whether he knew wtf he was doing running the election past eight close cabinet members and then going public, not to mention it making The Conservative Party look like a sinking ship. When you think where their fortunes were five years back...Interesting times for sure! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,606 Posted May 31 If my dad’s reaction is anything to go by then the Tories will be absolutely delighted Keir Starmer has allowed Diane Abbott to stand again. It will be mentioned every day until election day by them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,586 Posted May 31 15 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: If my dad’s reaction is anything to go by then the Tories will be absolutely delighted Keir Starmer has allowed Diane Abbott to stand again. It will be mentioned every day until election day by them. I think they will need to be careful in using Diane Abbott as negative as they took £10 Million from someone who said she made him hate all black women and that she should be shot 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,535 Posted May 31 19 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: If my dad’s reaction is anything to go by At this point, I am absolutely convinced that you are just trolling. In which case, I tip my hat to you. Nice work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted May 31 51 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: If my dad’s reaction is anything to go by He's got shit for brains. In fact, why the fuck am I even responding? I only saw this cos AFB quoted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,617 Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Toast said: How could someone design a shoe/boot like that and not have an actual stiletto as the heel? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 31 1 hour ago, msc said: I'm not sure the Logan thing was a defection in the crossing the floor sense. The guy said he was putting in an application to join Labour that day, so it sounded more like he's trying to join as a normal member. (Which would be problematic for him, given the whole "don't stand for another party for five years before" rule, I'm not this nobody is worth bending that one.) It wasn't a direct defection in the sense of Elphicke. He actually seems to have been quite honourable about it, stating that he didn't feel right about betraying his constituents and crossing the floor. Instead, he waited until Parliament formally dissolved, he was no longer a candidate and then announced he would be supporting the Labour candidate at the next election. Which is fair enough, everyone's entitled to an opinion and a change of heart - if nobody has a change of heart, then Rishi ends up with a massive majority again! I suppose the question is whether more Tories will step down/former Tories will endorse Starmer. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,606 Posted May 31 12 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: I think they will need to be careful in using Diane Abbott as negative as they took £10 Million from someone who said she made him hate all black women and that she should be shot The Tories are now shameless they won’t care about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: The Tories are now shameless they won’t care about that. They might if their own research suggests it's one reason they can't get above the low 20s in polling 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted May 31 Crem in talking bollocks shocker 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted May 31 So easy to absolutely rinse this poor fucker. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,188 Posted May 31 14 minutes ago, TQR said: So easy to absolutely rinse this poor fucker. Poor?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slackhurst Broadcasting 374 Posted May 31 3 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: I think they will need to be careful in using Diane Abbott as negative as they took £10 Million from someone who said she made him hate all black women and that she should be shot A policy pledge to shoot Diane Abbott would probably be a vote-winner. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: I'm not saying it's going to happen, but if they can pick up another 7 points (getting to 30%), and Labour were to drop into the high 30s, then the majority could shrink. But, I'm not sure what needs to change for the outcome to be different. Currently, Electoral Calculus is predicting a Labour majority of 300, and less than 100 Tory MPs, which is surely complete nonsense? But change the scores so the Tories are on 30%, Labour on 39%, Reform down to 8% (Tories have already eaten into their total a bit, let's say that continues as we close in on election day), Greens up to 8% (predicted around 6%, let's say they pick up a few more votes from disaffected Labour voters on the left) and leave the Lib Dems as is (around 9%) and Labour would still end up with a majority of 100. Although we'd still have more than 200 Tory MPs in that scenario. But, so far, the dials aren't changing significantly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted May 31 Still think a best case scenario at this stage for the Tories is a repeat of 1997 Worst case is 1997 on steroids 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
