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I was thinking we were gonna get an 18th hit but not so sure now to be honest. This month has been pretty crap for deaths - especially considering December is normally a good month for hits and you normally get a few big names around Christmas time at least. Who have we had this month so far? Really only King Mike, Keith Chegwin, Max Clifford, Heinz Wolff and a handful of pornstars. That's well below average for a normal December in death.

Final suggestions for the committee: Keep: 1)Kirk Douglas 2)Vera Lynn 3)Billy Graham 4)Herman Wouk 5)Olivia de Havilland 6)George H W Bush 7)Pierre Cardin 8)Stan Lee 9)Denis Norden 10)Javier Perez De Cuellar 11)Leah Bracknell 12)Nobby Stiles 13)Betty White 14)Bob Dole 15)Leslie Phillips 16)Jill Gascoigne 17)Prince Philip 18)Valerie Harper 19)Bob Barker 20)Robert Mugabe 21)Doug Ellis 22)Jimmy Carter 23)Desmond Tutu 24)Pope Benedict 25)Queen Elizabeth II Bring back 1)Doris Day 2)Henry Kissenger 3)Nicholas Parsons 4)Murray Walker 5)Clive James 6)Stephen Hawking 7)Charles Aznavour 8)Dick van Dyke 9)Tony Bennett 10)James Randi 11)Sean Connery 12)Jacques Chirac 13)Peter Alliss 14)Prunella Scales New: 1)John McCain 2)Olivia Newton John 3)Tessa Jowell 4)Linda Nolan 5)John Hume 6)Douglas Hurd 7)Val Kilmer 8)Liam Miller 9)Dean Francis 10)Morgan Tsvangirai 11)Marieke Vervoot

Or maybe they could have a merry Christmas by not looking up murder victims?

D'ya think that clear mind allows him a second of self-indulgence at midnight on New Year's Eve as he clenches both fists and goes "yess!!!" as he thinks how many of us wasted valuable team picks on him in 2017?

My List: 1. Jacques Chirac 2. Alain Delon 3. Valéry Giscard d’Estaing 4. Bernard Tapie 5. Pierre Richard 6. Renee Simonot 7. Jean-Luc Godard 8. Pierre Cardin 9. Gerard Depardieu 10. Jean-Paul Belmondo 11. Brigitte Bardot 12. Leslie Caron 13. Anouk Aimee 14. Claude Lelouch 15. Jean-Louis Trintignant 16. Michel Piccoli 17. Michel Houellebecq (a risky pick) 18. Claudia Cardinale 19. Charles Gerard 20. Sophia Loren 21. Albert Uderzo 22. Jean-Marie Le Pen 23. Roland Dumas 24. Prince Henrik 25. Claire Maurier

Dennis Stamp

i prepare my list. 20 names, ok for you ?

For me Helmut Kohl. 16 years leader of Germany including reunification and co-founder of the united Europe incl. common EURO. I think this live performance is more significant compared to someone like Hefner who presented us "only" naked bunnys on the cover of the playboy.

Hugh Hefner??

Wouldn't be surprised if one of the Aussie tennis greats dies in 2018. There's about a dozen Aussie Hall Of Famers in their 80s and 90s now

Of course, Jacques was The following one on my own list, he could really be a good name for 2018

Yeah, perhaps, but... why's that a bad thing? Does anyone care about Norwegian football outside of bits of Norway? I glanced over those stats but seems to show Fergus McCann right: live within your means, build up your own capital, dominate. Rangers just spent everyone else's money, it came back to haunt them. Died. The New Rangers probably perma-fucked for the time being. Anyhow, never mind all that. Apparently Thistle made a profit this year? Fantastic. We were a complete basket case financially only about 15-16 years ago.

You know..... Larry may not be a bad pick, he's terribly death listy. Not sure it's his year, but when has that stopped the DL from inclusion? SC

A spin-off thread, perhaps more for extra-curricular than here, that I've always wanted to create is where we definitely list movies that the entire (known) cast is 100% dead from. Outside of, like, Swimming to Cambodia, it's very hard to do because so many movies have a guy listed on IMDB who did nothing else with their career (see: the bailiff from 12 Angry Men). Similarly, there's one actress in Guys and Dolls who vanishes after about 1960 that holds that film back from getting a black tick. Any interest in such a thread?

achieving what might be my latest hit of the year with the death of Edu Ferreira http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/boavista-striker-edu-ferreira-dead-11748824 pushing the score to 22 !

OK, with only 7 days left to next year I think it's time to post my list: Staying: (for now) 1: George H.W. Bush: I think Bush the elder might be the Deathlist numero uno next year. In two terms, Obama never had to worry about a presidential funeral but Trump might deal with one (even two) 2: Leah Bracknell: 3rd-rate poetry and Shamanism vs. lung cancer. She could have been number 1 if only anyone knew who she was 3: Kirk Douglas: no apparent physical problems except for the fact that he is 101 years young. Sick dancing moves for a centenarian. May or may not have a fling with CZJ (I think we just discovered the secret to old age) 4: Billy Graham: HOW IS HE STILL ALIVE!!! 5: Pope Benedict: only brought up these days to discuss this weird "two living Popes" thing, or to state how "serenly fading" and "calmly dimming" he is, which is all fancy Vatican talk for "he looks like death" 6: Prince Philip: several health problems. Has been surprisingly quiet for such a narcissist loud-mouth 7: Bob Dole: see Prince Philip 8: Nobby Stiles: quiet for several years now and a very sad ending 9: Valerie Harper: MTM is waiting in heaven, hopefully at the lesbian pool 10: Herman Wouk: selling your house at 101 years old is a sign that you have giving up on life, which is sad because he could do a mean Albus Dumbledore Next category is people with less worrying health issues but which are too big to drop: 11: Queen Elizabeth: God Save the Queen Another Spot Next Year 12: Jimmy Carter: Will probably live to 100, but he'll stay because he was the 39th US president. What a malaise. To quote the Simpsons: "Jimmy Carter: old, wrinked, useless." 13: Olivia de Havilland: Will probably live to 110, but she'll stay. Still would 14: Betty White: slowed down a lot these days, still would 15: Vera Lynn: We'll Meet Agaaaain, Next Year. Still would 16: Stan Lee: Expect another Deathlist cameo 17: Robert Mugabe: It was his way or Zimbabwe. Is probably laughing his way to the bank by now. 18: Hosni Mubarak: I keep forgetting that he has cancer. Too big and too old and too evil to drop 19: Desmond Tutu: Yep, I changed my mind on him. I think we are underrating how big of a name he is. Which lives us with 6 spots, I call these the "interchangeables" 20: Jill Gascoigne: could linger for a few years but her quietness is worrying. 21: Lord Carrington: I have how idea who he is, but I picture him as Sir Buzzkillington from Family Guy, except much older and much duller. Oh well, he's here and he's 98 22: Pierre Cardin: dear Pierre, you made me pay 35 € for an awful shirt that doesn't even fit, I hope bad things happen to you 23: Emperor Akihito: If you have to keep any of the "more healthy but still sick" picks, better him than Sandy Whatshisface 24: Leslie Phillips: gotta keep the British quota going 25: Perez Javier de Whocares: the word "yawn" if it became a person Now with the new/returning: 1: John McCain: self-explanatory 2: Dilip Kumar: In exceptionally-terrible shape. Marlon Brando meets Apu (or the skinny Marlon Brando for the PC people). I dare you to think of an important actor who is older than him and who isn't named Kirk Douglas 3: Artie Lange: the poster boy of "Say No to Drugs". How he made it to 50, outliving a plethora of younger and much, much more healthier comedians (Patrice O'Neal, Greg Giraldo, Ralphie May...) is a proof that life does not make sense 4: Henry Kissinger: As an influential politican, he is easily more important than half of the US living presidents. Still has a sharp mind but I saw a recent interview of his and you couldn't make up half of what he was saying. DO NOT MISS HIM 5: Jacques Chirac: See Henry Kissinger 6: Valery Giscard d'Estaing: With the Brexit and Catalonia thingies and his involvment with the whole EU idea, he looks destined for a week of covfefe 7: Yoko Ono: Even Mark David Chapman would find her latest public appearance heatbreaking. She doesn't look long for this world. All your life, you were only waiting for this moment to arise 8: Monica Vitti: 10 years (!) have passed since the last bit of news about her. 10 WHOLE YEARS. Sad ending to a once terrific actress 9: Gerd Muller: poor guy. Perhaps the greatest number 9 in the history of the beautiful game. 10: Pelé: the greatest number 10 and the greatest anything in football. Looked terrible for years now. If the Committe miss him they might as well shut down this website 11: Little Richard: Another must. An incalculable influence on that whole rock and roll fad, coupled with an incalculable number of health issues. Getting ready to Rip it Up. 12: Pope Francis: Et tu Francis? 13: Steven Hawking: they have to start considering him. Too big and he can't live forever with his condition 14: Eric Clapton: very frail, wheelchair-bound and retired for a couple of years now. but Nobody Knows You When You're Out and Down. Soon will be crying Tears in Heaven (I have a couple more of these) Edit: I was wrong, he still has another tour coming up in 2018 14: Olivia Newton-John: poor gal, She's the One that the Committee Wants 15: Barbara Bush: The only thing keeping us from seeing how terrible Babs looks is the fact that George looks worse. Expect a Notebook scenario. 16: Rosalynn Carter: the Committe love their first ladies and she is 90 after all. 17: Bernard Tapie: "Je ne suis pas mourant (I am not dying)" is exactly what a dying person would say @LeahBracknell 18: Amanda Bynes: declining mentally, drug problems, hospitalization. Sad to think that she hadn't had a starring role in 10 years 19: Dave Bartholomew: the oldest rocker to ever live. Would be a shame to lose him but I doubt he'll go on for much. Wheelchair-bound since at least 2007. 20: Jean-Luc Godard: "Smoking kills" said the tv ad as Monsieur Godard, 87, lighted his 5th cig that evening, while filming pretentious artsy-fartsy "cinéma vérité" Which leaves us with five spots, I will trust the much more experienced other posters and post the most mentioned ones: 21: Clive James: this Clive James fellow keep being mentioned repeatedly here, I'll trust you on this one 22: Morgan Tsvangirai: very big name. Mugabe minus the charisma and raw sexual magnetism 23: Linda Nolan: apparently has terminal cancer. I never heard of her. I best she's British. 24: Val Kilmer: has cancer, looks awful (I'm tired at this point) 25: Stefan Karl Stefansson: who knew that in Lazy Town, the real hero all this time was Robbie Rotten.

Jose Carreras looks very frail & had to cancel a concert due to illness a while ago. Monserrat Caballe is infirm & wheelchair-bound. Placido Domingo, Sherrill Milnes, Mirella Freni & Tony Bennett on the other hand, seem to be in good form. Just an Idea: Rosie O'Donnell. She had a heart-attack, seems extremely choleric & writes confusing stuff on her Twitter feed. (Just like the late Carrie Fisher). Kathy Griffin is also a loose cannon. I think that both are capable of committing an act of madness. We may also see one or two suicides as a result of the MeToo movement. Polanski was able to come through difficult times, because he never lost the support of the film industry. But times have changed. Weinstein, Spacey & James Levine are probably too narcissistic to take their own lives, but others may not be able to endure life as an outcast.

This thread needs to be moved into the dead pool section.

The only certs I can think of for next year are: John McCain Leah Bracknell Denis Goldberg Jose Jose Charlotte Rae Those that are nearly certs: Nobby Stiles Ray Wilson John Hume Tessa Jowell Olivia Newton_John Kamala Stefan Karl Stefannson Liam Miller Dilip Kumar Those in serious danger Morgan Tsvangirai Wolfgang Bosbach Val Kilmer Mark E Smith Ric Flair Big Van Vader Chris Rea Christy Dignam Linda Nolan Ronnie Wood Larry King Billy McNeill Stevie Chalmers Trevor Peacock Stirling Moss Roger Bannister Gunter von Hagens Peter Lorimer Chris Mortensen Bernard Tapie Freddie Starr Robert Fyfe

King Arthur stayed at the Excalibur once. He pulled.

I'll try for the last CENTURY. 2017: Chuck Berry 2016: Tie Between David Bowie, Prince, Fidel Castro and Carrie Fisher 2015: Leonard Nimoy 2014: Robin Williams 2013: Nelson Mandela 2012: Neil Armstrong 2011: Tie between Steve Jobs and Osama bin Laden 2010: Blake Edwards 2009: Michael Jackson 2008: George Carlin 2007: Benazir Bhutto 2006: Saddam Hussein 2005: Tie between Rosa Parks and John Paul II 2004: Tie between Ronald Reagan and Marlon Brando 2003: Johnny Cash 2002: Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother 2001: George Harrison 2000: Charles Schulz 1999: Joe DiMaggio 1998: Frank Sinatra 1997: Princess Diana 1996: Carl Sagan 1995: Dean Martin 1994: Richard Nixon 1993: Audrey Hepburn 1992: Menachem Begin 1991: Tie between Freddie Mercury and Dr. Seuss 1990: Tie between Jim Henson and Roald Dahl 1989:Tie between Hirohito and Lucille Ball 1988: Enzo Ferrari 1987: Andy Warhol 1986: Wallis Simpson 1985: Orson Welles 1984: Indira Gandhi 1983: Tennessee Williams 1982: Tie between Ingrid Bergman and Grace Kelly 1981: Bob Marley 1980: Tie between Jesse Owens, Alfred Hitchcock and John Lennon 1979: John Wayne 1978: Pope Paul VI 1977: Tie between Elvis Presley, Groucho Marx, Bing Crosby and Charlie Chaplin 1976: Tie between Agatha Christie and Mao Zedong 1975: Francisco Franco 1974: Charles Lindbergh 1973: Lyndon B. Johnson 1972: Harry S. Truman 1971: Jim Morrison 1970: Jimi Hendrix 1969: Tie between Dwight D. Eisenhower and Judy Garland 1968: Martin Luther King Jr. 1967: Che Guevara 1966: Walt Disney 1965: Winston Churchill 1964: Tie between Douglas MacArthur and Herbert Hoover 1963: John F. Kennedy 1962: Tie between Marilyn Monroe and Eleanor Roosevelt 1961: Ernest Hemingway 1960: Clark Gable 1959: Frank Lloyd Wright 1958: Ernest Lawrence 1957: Humphrey Bogart 1956: Alben W. Barkley 1955: Tie between Albert Einstein and James Dean 1954: Alan Turing 1953: Joseph Stalin 1952: Tie between George VI and Eva Peron 1951: Shoeless Joe Jackson 1950: George Orwell 1949: Louis II of Monaco 1948: Gandhi 1947: Tie between Al Capone and Henry Ford 1946: H.G. Wells 1945: Tie between FDR and Hitler 1944: Erwin Rommel 1943: Nikola Tesla 1942: Carole Lombard 1941: Kaiser Wilhelm II 1940: F. Scott Fitzgerald 1939: Sigmund Freud 1938: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk 1937: John D. Rockefeller 1936: Rudyard Kipling 1935: Will Rogers 1934: Marie Curie 1933: Calvin Coolidge 1932: Kate M. Gordon 1931: Thomas Edison 1930: William Howard Taft 1929: Wyatt Earp 1928: Roald Amundsen 1927: Lizzie Borden 1926: Harry Houdini 1925: Pancho Villa 1924: Tie between Vladimir Lenin and Woodrow Wilson 1923: Warren G. Harding 1922: Alexander Graham Bell 1921: Nicholas I of Montenegro 1920: Robert Peary 1919: Theodore Roosevelt 1918: Tsar Nicholas II 1917: Buffalo Bill Cody

Worth noting she is the sole survivor from the time magazine photo of the century.